@@TooTallToby By using a reflex camera you don't have that error, I read on the wikipedia. And How much it can be?, If we are talking about +-1mm or 5mm? I can live with a 1mm error in many aplications, like this rubber foot as the rubber will expand and fit the foot but sometimes I need a perfect fit, and then this error it might be relevant
There's a neat custom feature that gives better control when placing an image. TH-cam will probably eat my comment if I try to put a link but look for "Image (Pascoe)". It lets you place a "reference" (using x,y manipulators) to scale the image and also gives fine control over the rotation and location. Worth checking out as the built in tool works but is a bit "basic" and it should save you having to do any editing in an external program most of the time!
Yeah I do as well - that's where I get a lot of value from re-sizing and rotating BEFORE bringing it into CAD (not just onshape - other CAD systems have similar limitations) 🙂
This was pretty helpful. It would be really nice if it could just import the image with its default scale, for example if you scan it in and its already sized to the exact proportions.
3D scanning is definitely an option in Onshape - and the models will come it at a 1:1 scale. But this technique is a little different, as this technique is using an image to help guide the design. Thanks for the comment!
Thank you, Toby for great videos. Question: Is there "master scale" or "proportion" dimension, by changing this value, it will change dimensions on all of the defined values on the Sketch or even Part? For Example: You traced that musical notes stand "slider"/"shoe", and once you print it its lets say 3mm too big, so you want to shrink whole part by 3mm, so it will fit note stand leg tight. How would you go about it? Thank you!
I'd find a lot of value if you called out your mouse clicks and button presses as you went. I know it is arduous, but as a beginner it would help me taste success much more rapidly. Also, if you have any customized profile/mouse settings a guide on that would be worth a lot. Soo hard to continue to guess at your interaction methods and continue to dig a hole of problems. You're obviously a legend at this, so thanks for what you have shared.
Once you exit the sketch the image should stay in place. Layers are used more in drawings - to emulate "layers" in a model you could make different sketches and then change the sketch colors.
Looking forward to more, this is something I always wondered how to do and if it was possible using OnShape. The cropping technique plus measurement is a game changer for me. I was wondering how to scale a picture easily and this is really simple.
Ha! Worked out nearly all of that the hard way - was worth the watch to see the 'anchor' function on the corner - it takes a lot longer if you don't know about that. If accuracy is important it's worth being careful if you use a phone. Use the optical zoom and hold the phone square and a meter or more away if you can to avoid barrel distortion. Better still even a cheap compact camera with some optical zoom capability.
Quick note guys. Onshape does not support 'HEIC' photo formats (Iphones) It needs JPG or PNG. If your photo isn't listed after importing then this is probably why, There are online PNG converters for free. :) I hope this helps some!
I also usually put a ruler next to the object I photograph, then in OnShape you can draw a line overlayed on your ruler and assign it a dimension: this will scale the whole image! But beware, it needs to be the first dimension of this sketch (for some reason). And I use Affinity Photo’s « straighten » feature (also using the ruler’s edges) to make sure it’s nice and straight, prior to import.
does the free version of onshape allow importing an image Very good instructional video but I don't find the radio button in the lower section of the work screen you clicked on Thanks in advance for your reply
Hi Roger! I just tested it today in the FREE version of Onshape and the option for Insert Image is still there. Maybe try beginning a new sketch, then using the SEARCH COMMANDS tool in the upper right?
Yeah a great point! Thanks Avi! I once wrote about this in an ENGINEERS RULE article, and it's definitely a topic that deserves some follow up attention - Great topic for an upcoming video - thanks!
@@TooTallToby not sure if Onshape is developed to the extent of Solidworks in terms of using your sketch picture but maybe a workflow using autotrace in Onshape if possible would be cool.
This was very very helpful. Thanks so much for sharing it. I searched and looked at many youtube videos. I tried tracing the outline of the tool and scanning it in but this is a better approach. My traced image needed to be rotated and scaled and I could not find an approach as I'm new to OnShape. I will give this a try. It would be helpful to address the parallax issue. I also want to explore the idea if it would be useful to take multiple photos to create a 3D image and import it. Any experience there? Also, has anyone seen an "AI" approach to drawing the splines? Also, once the image is imported, how can you rescale it if you messed up? Thanks again.
Thanks AL3891 - I am really on the fence on this topic.... On one hand I agree, it's better to just tell the entire story in one continuous video (even if it ends up 15-20 minutes). On the other hand, I know people struggle these days with breaking away from "actual work" to watch a tech tip video, so I want to make sure they can access this content in bite sized segments. It's all about finding the perfect balance and I appreciate you helping me (with your feedback) to get this thing calibrated! Glad you're enjoying the content and please keep the feedback coming! We'll figure this thing out!! 🙂
@TooTallToby sure I understand, it's always a balance. perhaps one way is to go through the topic quickly in part one and then go into more details about the options in part two, just so that the main topic of the video doesn't actually end up in part two. I guess you can never please everyone though so don't put too much stock in this one opinion:)
@@aL3891_ Awww yeah! My pleasure - and good idea I like the idea of doing one "quick tip" and then doing a "deep dive" on the same feature. I'm gonna mull this around a bit and see what we can do!
You should take photos of the object from as far away as practical (using zoom). This reduces parallax error markedly.
Correct and an excellent tip! I wrote about this phenomenon once in an ENGINEERS RULE article. 100% agree! Thanks uppsala!
@@TooTallToby By using a reflex camera you don't have that error, I read on the wikipedia. And How much it can be?, If we are talking about +-1mm or 5mm? I can live with a 1mm error in many aplications, like this rubber foot as the rubber will expand and fit the foot but sometimes I need a perfect fit, and then this error it might be relevant
100% correct
My comment was going to be about the same, but without providing a solution. Thank you for this tip!
There's a neat custom feature that gives better control when placing an image. TH-cam will probably eat my comment if I try to put a link but look for "Image (Pascoe)". It lets you place a "reference" (using x,y manipulators) to scale the image and also gives fine control over the rotation and location.
Worth checking out as the built in tool works but is a bit "basic" and it should save you having to do any editing in an external program most of the time!
Awww yeah FEATURESCRIPTS for the win!
Thank you for posting !
i've struggled with this in the past. this workflow will save me many headaches.
Awww yeah! Glad this helps!
Nice tip! I usually struggle trying to rotate/resize pictures in Onshape!
Yeah I do as well - that's where I get a lot of value from re-sizing and rotating BEFORE bringing it into CAD (not just onshape - other CAD systems have similar limitations) 🙂
This was pretty helpful. It would be really nice if it could just import the image with its default scale, for example if you scan it in and its already sized to the exact proportions.
3D scanning is definitely an option in Onshape - and the models will come it at a 1:1 scale. But this technique is a little different, as this technique is using an image to help guide the design. Thanks for the comment!
Thank you, Toby for great videos.
Question: Is there "master scale" or "proportion" dimension, by changing this value, it will change dimensions on all of the defined values on the Sketch or even Part?
For Example: You traced that musical notes stand "slider"/"shoe", and once you print it its lets say 3mm too big, so you want to shrink whole part by 3mm, so it will fit note stand leg tight. How would you go about it?
Thank you!
I'd find a lot of value if you called out your mouse clicks and button presses as you went. I know it is arduous, but as a beginner it would help me taste success much more rapidly. Also, if you have any customized profile/mouse settings a guide on that would be worth a lot. Soo hard to continue to guess at your interaction methods and continue to dig a hole of problems. You're obviously a legend at this, so thanks for what you have shared.
Great tutorials. How do you fix image in place are such things as layers.?
Once you exit the sketch the image should stay in place. Layers are used more in drawings - to emulate "layers" in a model you could make different sketches and then change the sketch colors.
Cropping the image - Tip of the year!!
Awwww yeah!!!
Looking forward to more, this is something I always wondered how to do and if it was possible using OnShape. The cropping technique plus measurement is a game changer for me. I was wondering how to scale a picture easily and this is really simple.
Awww yeah! Awesome!! Thanks Glad this helped open up some new doors!
Ha! Worked out nearly all of that the hard way - was worth the watch to see the 'anchor' function on the corner - it takes a lot longer if you don't know about that.
If accuracy is important it's worth being careful if you use a phone. Use the optical zoom and hold the phone square and a meter or more away if you can to avoid barrel distortion.
Better still even a cheap compact camera with some optical zoom capability.
yes - yes - and YES! Agree on all points - especially about the barrel distortion!
Quick note guys. Onshape does not support 'HEIC' photo formats (Iphones) It needs JPG or PNG. If your photo isn't listed after importing then this is probably why, There are online PNG converters for free. :) I hope this helps some!
I also usually put a ruler next to the object I photograph, then in OnShape you can draw a line overlayed on your ruler and assign it a dimension: this will scale the whole image! But beware, it needs to be the first dimension of this sketch (for some reason).
And I use Affinity Photo’s « straighten » feature (also using the ruler’s edges) to make sure it’s nice and straight, prior to import.
Yeah thats a total pro move to use a RULER! Great tip - and I'll check out that straiten tool too! Thanks!
does the free version of onshape allow importing an image Very good instructional video but I don't find the radio button in the lower section of the work screen you clicked on Thanks in advance for your reply
Hi Roger! I just tested it today in the FREE version of Onshape and the option for Insert Image is still there. Maybe try beginning a new sketch, then using the SEARCH COMMANDS tool in the upper right?
This is a great feature of Onshape.
yes indeed!
great video this is very helpful
Awww yeah! Thanks and glad these are helpful!
Great tip, thank you! Looking forward to the rest of your reverse engineering workflow!
Thanks - yeah I am super happy with how this one came out, as I use this music stand all the time!!
Good idea locking to a corner. Helpful tip
Thanks - yeah that one saves me a LOT of time!
gr8 job! I like your quick onshape tutors!
Nice! Thanks Jerry!
How do you delete the inserted image once you're done using it?
Maybe touch on perspective correction, in the upcoming video since most hand clicked images are distorted.
Yeah a great point! Thanks Avi! I once wrote about this in an ENGINEERS RULE article, and it's definitely a topic that deserves some follow up attention - Great topic for an upcoming video - thanks!
@@TooTallToby do link that article, if its still available on the internet.
@@TooTallToby not sure if Onshape is developed to the extent of Solidworks in terms of using your sketch picture but maybe a workflow using autotrace in Onshape if possible would be cool.
Crop tip…gold.
yeah that's a great way to keep moving forward! Glad you liked this one!
This was very very helpful. Thanks so much for sharing it. I searched and looked at many youtube videos. I tried tracing the outline of the tool and scanning it in but this is a better approach. My traced image needed to be rotated and scaled and I could not find an approach as I'm new to OnShape. I will give this a try. It would be helpful to address the parallax issue. I also want to explore the idea if it would be useful to take multiple photos to create a 3D image and import it. Any experience there? Also, has anyone seen an "AI" approach to drawing the splines? Also, once the image is imported, how can you rescale it if you messed up? Thanks again.
Tks a lot for these videos!
Awesome glad these are helpful!
Totally love this series.
Thanks SkyDragon!
Nice tutorial thanks and I'm looking out to the next video.
Nice! Thanks!!
Awesome! This is just what I was looking for... Thanks!
Images Say its Uploaded But does not show up in Selection Window.
very helpful, thank you
Awesome glad this helped!
Thankyou!
Awww yeah! Nice Minecraft Grass Block user icon! (unless that's terraria) 🙂
Nice info.
Thanks JCR!
I wish you wouldn't split these into so many parts :) if it's a more complex topic you could maybe split them into 15-20 minute parts instead
Thanks AL3891 - I am really on the fence on this topic.... On one hand I agree, it's better to just tell the entire story in one continuous video (even if it ends up 15-20 minutes). On the other hand, I know people struggle these days with breaking away from "actual work" to watch a tech tip video, so I want to make sure they can access this content in bite sized segments.
It's all about finding the perfect balance and I appreciate you helping me (with your feedback) to get this thing calibrated! Glad you're enjoying the content and please keep the feedback coming! We'll figure this thing out!! 🙂
@TooTallToby sure I understand, it's always a balance. perhaps one way is to go through the topic quickly in part one and then go into more details about the options in part two, just so that the main topic of the video doesn't actually end up in part two. I guess you can never please everyone though so don't put too much stock in this one opinion:)
@TooTallToby also, thank you for making all this educational content, it really helps learning all this stuff!
@@aL3891_ Awww yeah! My pleasure - and good idea I like the idea of doing one "quick tip" and then doing a "deep dive" on the same feature. I'm gonna mull this around a bit and see what we can do!
THank you!!!!
Awww yeah Thanks Anthony!
Yes, helpful
Awesome!
more of the same please!
Awww yeah! 😁
i dont have that option, so tutorial useless for me :(