Jan Dismas Zelenka: Miserere I

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ธ.ค. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 97

  • @johnmarshall4398
    @johnmarshall4398 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When man built great cathedrals and performed music inside of them that was worthy of their grandeur. Why did we stop?

  • @Satrio1401091413
    @Satrio1401091413 10 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    0:54 ~ 1:57 How come a human could come up with that kind of melodies?! Simply breathtaking.

  • @RuudJH
    @RuudJH 13 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Amazing music. I only discovered this composer today, when it was mentioned on the radio, with a short 10 second fragment, and I wanted to listen to more of it. Now I do and I am amazed.

    • @RecordareDomineA415
      @RecordareDomineA415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, if you just discovered Zelenka today, it's a long road ahead for you to discover others (if you did not already): Tartini, Dall'Abaco, Veracini, Caldara, Predieri, Durante, Paisiello, Porpora, Manfredini, Carcani and so on and on :-)

  • @hellomate639
    @hellomate639 10 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    This music is on the level of Bach and Mozart. Basically, there's absolutely no reason that this guy shouldn't be an iconic composer.

    • @jbchenique7702
      @jbchenique7702 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Opus 32 : i'm waiting for Zelenka revival for almost 40 years - now, every year is coming with the discovery of beautiful masterpieces. But Zelenka will never become iconic : no opera, very few instrumental music.

    • @teacherman3002
      @teacherman3002 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Opus 32

    • @jonasstary5895
      @jonasstary5895 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I thing the most beautiful piece form Zelenka is his Et Incarnatus Est from Missa Votiva ZWV 18. Do you know it?

    • @carolemuller533
      @carolemuller533 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jonasstary5895 -Thank you for this reference, Zelenka is really outstanding and deserves to be better known….

    • @carolemuller533
      @carolemuller533 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jonasstary5895 His various "Christe eleison" are also masterpieces. I'm going on TH-cam every evening right now, to listen to some Zelenka. Here is one of his Christe Eleison:
      th-cam.com/video/thawwqQHbnc/w-d-xo.html
      ...and of course directed by Vaclav Luks and the dream ensemble Collegium 1704 and Collegium Vocal 1704 based in Prague...A dream ensemble, instruments and vocal artists alike together with their director and with the fabulous sound of real baroque music.

  • @polomokipo6000
    @polomokipo6000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    JAN DISMAS ZELENKA
    ( LOUNOVICE 1679-1745 DRESDE )
    MISERERE I . Une merveille voix grandiose et musique Eternel il est considéré comme le plus important compositeur de la musique baroque tchèque. Apprecier de Bach et de TELEMANN. Merci pour ce moment de musique baroque avec ZELENKA et cette vidéo sublime.

  • @l000kin
    @l000kin 13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jan Dysmas Zelenka is one of the best! His music is beautiful, clear, it says what is required to say and nothing more -- with simple, but genial, language of pure sound.

  • @OdinLimaye
    @OdinLimaye 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dear god, this is gorgeous! How am I only just now discovering this master?

  • @fflambeauutube
    @fflambeauutube 9 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Zelenka was an almost exact contemporary of J.S. Bach's. Zelenka worked as the court religious composer in Dresden (Catholic), while Bach did the same in nearby Leipzig (Protestant). When Zelenka visited Leipzig, he stayed at Bach's house. Bach at one time also asked his son, Johann Friedemann Bach, to copy some of Zelenka's music from his "Magnificat" so that Bach could present it in Leipzig. Now that folks, is a recommendation!

    • @panzerlion
      @panzerlion 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Zelenka, as well as the lesser known Charpentier always get me, because Bach was a prodigy, practically a musical savant, but Zelenka wasn't, he had sheer and pure talent and that's what gets me most.

    • @tomatin6437
      @tomatin6437 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@panzerlionsuperb Definition...

  • @Domino65100
    @Domino65100 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Merci pour ces 7 minutes 15 de paradis sur terre.

  • @CarmeloBonifacioMalandrino
    @CarmeloBonifacioMalandrino 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ho scoperto da qualche giorno questo musicista che dal poco che ho ascoltato sento degno di grande ammirazione per la potenza espressiva l'ampiezza di respiro musicale.Noto la sicurezza di toni e motivi di grande suggestione religiosa.

  • @TheJamesalden
    @TheJamesalden 15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So grateful to all those, and to their collective efforts to bring us the music of such a fabulous composer. Thanks to all them...

  • @aijiki
    @aijiki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    sang this a few years ago... what an experience!

  • @ihno45
    @ihno45 12 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yes, Bach was a composer who wasn't afraid to admire his collegues and admit that they're good.

  • @piedwagtailrameau
    @piedwagtailrameau 13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lovely, absolutely beautiful

  • @janetsmithson3063
    @janetsmithson3063 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great piece of music!

  • @wooble73
    @wooble73 13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is wonderful!

  • @mrnarason
    @mrnarason 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautiful!

  • @GekFINN
    @GekFINN 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Потрясающая музыка...
    счастлива , что узнала о ней...)
    спасибо!

  • @MrGar11
    @MrGar11 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Zelenka is fantastik compozer.I love him

  • @Swoopiify
    @Swoopiify 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ridiculously beautiful. I'm dead.

  • @RomanSamostrokovOfficial
    @RomanSamostrokovOfficial 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    AWESOME....

  • @willderkacz
    @willderkacz 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfect! The violins here are amazing!

  • @wdkate
    @wdkate 15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    excellent, dramatique, belle interpréation

  • @erebo06
    @erebo06 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is great! thanks.

  • @mateor5973
    @mateor5973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The opening is kind of similar to the opening of Bach's St. John Passion

  • @stevenheck9433
    @stevenheck9433 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HAVING STOOD CLOSE TO THE GREAT PIPES ... THERE AND IN THIS IS THE SOUND OF SOULS

  • @rosemarylucas7743
    @rosemarylucas7743 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A recent discovery, just love the muscularity of Zelenka's music - joyful!

  • @ComposerJMA
    @ComposerJMA 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta love Dombrecht and Il Fondamento. Zelenka lives on!

  • @FilmowkaTV
    @FilmowkaTV 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    niesamowite, fantastyczne!

  • @SaraStowequeenjoan
    @SaraStowequeenjoan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    wonderful

  • @sigbangschmidt
    @sigbangschmidt 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zelenka a discovery... like it

  • @jonathanbarshaul
    @jonathanbarshaul 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We are going to be performing this work in November of this yr.

  • @dagisa123
    @dagisa123 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very nice piece of Czech music!! I like Zelenka :)!!

  • @jairoalvarez5914
    @jairoalvarez5914 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Otra inmortal de Zelenka..

  • @lukaszrzepinski
    @lukaszrzepinski 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @Cantormatis : Zelenka and Bach knew and respected each other and worked at the same court - so definitelly they influenced each other

  • @wegeler
    @wegeler 15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great!

  • @grandecano9689
    @grandecano9689 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Una obra maestra.

  • @atinemassare
    @atinemassare 13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    stunned - why he and his music have been forgotten for so long...?

  • @tomaxuser
    @tomaxuser 14 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @vasilisparos This recording is by Paul Dombrecht and Il Fondamento.

  • @Jalapablo
    @Jalapablo 15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What came first - ZWV 57 or JSB's St. John's Passion? There's a lot of undeniable similarity between "Miserere mei Deus" and "Herr, unser Hersscher", don't you think?

  • @misterivanhoe
    @misterivanhoe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    First I thought that Zelenka inspired this piece on Mozart's Requiem, until I compared the years they were both active... Did Mozart inspire his requime on some fundaments of this piece?

    • @fval5549
      @fval5549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Zelenka is an underappreciated gedius

  • @jonasstary5895
    @jonasstary5895 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I thing the most beautiful piece form Zelenka is his Et Incarnatus Est from Missa Votiva ZWV 18. Listen it! :)

    • @buffetg2242
      @buffetg2242 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would rather recommend his ZWV 12 Missa Xaverii with a stupendous SANCTUS having wonderful gloria from men (bass)

  • @konradseidel5551
    @konradseidel5551 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ganz große Musik - schade, dass er selbst in Deutschland so selten live zu hören ist.

  • @steffino2
    @steffino2 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Tomv1750 Zelenka was not mainly influenced by Neapolitan composers but by the traditional Viennese church style of Fux and Caldara, but of course he knew the music of Durante, Mancini etc. Only in his later works you can hear a stronger neapolitan influence. August converted only for political reasons and was not interested in religion. It was his daughter in law Maria Josepha, daughter of emperor Joseph I., who helped to establish a rich catholic church music tradition in Dresden after 1720.

  • @paradoxicus
    @paradoxicus 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Grande!!!

  • @Schleiermacher1000
    @Schleiermacher1000 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    who are the performers? Great music, wonderful musicians. Thank you.

  • @cerol43
    @cerol43 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @lukaszrzepinski Wrong: Bach worked in Leipzig (St Thomas Church) and Zelenka at theDresden Court - but of course they knew each other.

  • @eriathdien
    @eriathdien 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @paradoxicus tengo entendido que fue re-descubierto recientemente. Las marejadas de la historia se han llevado con ellas muchas partituras...

  • @tulesp
    @tulesp 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @cerol43 It depends on which of the Bach you mean, J.S Bach son Wilhelm Friedemann, was the organist in St Sophia church in Dresden from 1733-1746

  • @j.e.5545
    @j.e.5545 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maravilloso. Nivel Mozart. Enamorada de las composiciones de Zelenka.

    • @EduardoGomez-ui6tu
      @EduardoGomez-ui6tu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mayor que mozart!!! Por mucho zelenka es mejor

  • @edigabrieli7864
    @edigabrieli7864 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Second only to J.S.BACH. A great honor indeed.

  • @SuperPetr1234
    @SuperPetr1234 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    IN CHRISTI

  • @fflambeauutube
    @fflambeauutube 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Terrific music. Has a driving force to it that reminds me of some of Mozart's works; and the fugue like qualities of Bach. I suspect Zelenka was "held back" for recognition because of his difficult name. He should be ranked with Bach and Handel as a great Baroque composer. Better than Vivaldi, in my opinion, and more varied than the great Corelli.

  • @nicolagaetanocuccaro3086
    @nicolagaetanocuccaro3086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saccheggiato per la colonna sonora dell'Ultimo Imperatore.

  • @fflambeauutube
    @fflambeauutube 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice post but it would be better if you identified the group performing! They're terrific.

  • @akifzsche4010
    @akifzsche4010 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanna be yours
    Always and Forever

  • @srtlgr
    @srtlgr หลายเดือนก่อน

    merak ettim. Mozart bu adamdan etkilenmiş mi?

  • @unwrought9757
    @unwrought9757 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry, but although I try hard I just can not understand the use of such weak adjective as "nice". Zelenka is undoubtly one of the utmost highlights of /not only/ baroque music. His incredible sense of harmony, mastercraft of counterpoint and polyphony make him a real genius whose music lost nothing of its energy and deep spirituality irrespective of its age.

  • @ЛюдмилаМакарова-б3у
    @ЛюдмилаМакарова-б3у 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Мощная музыка! Красивые голоса, вернее многоголосье, "античное" ассоциации.......

  • @reginaldmolethrasher437
    @reginaldmolethrasher437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Up to 2:20 it's terrific. Then it gets, well, boring. Perhaps the difference between this and your typical bit of Bach.

    • @RecordareDomineA415
      @RecordareDomineA415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's the matter of taste, so you should not use word "boring", maybe "not to my taste" is better phrase. Anyway, appreciate, honest opinion. Did you try Durante, perhaps?

  • @ney57e
    @ney57e 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Misc brought me here.

  • @sonjavasova
    @sonjavasova ปีที่แล้ว

    Sviđa mi se ovo delo. (Međutim, da ubacim malo crnog humora : "ne znam zašto toliko drame oko života, kad je dovoljno samo prestat disat !")

  • @Strimlarn87
    @Strimlarn87 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My ex-wife was fat. But this is very good.

    • @ghostemane3209
      @ghostemane3209 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Orvar Surströmmingsson I didn't need to know that how do you expect me to live with that sir huh!!!??

    • @jameswilson807
      @jameswilson807 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Orvar Surströmmingsson Good to know.

    • @Strimlarn87
      @Strimlarn87 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm sorry. I hope you can live with the fact that my ex-wife was fat. You must realize that this music is awsome though.

  • @phlarrdboi
    @phlarrdboi 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @unwrought i think nice is better than your pseuds attempt with flowery language and superlatives. just saying.

  • @GustavoSotomayorFonzalida
    @GustavoSotomayorFonzalida 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Está bueno, le falta un poco de profundidad nada más, como lo hacía Händel o Bach.