I mean it’s up to the businesses to exercise their rights to determine who is fit to join their organization. Best to keep your own political views to yourself. Also the organizers of that letter seriously messed up by making the letter public. They just messed up the future of the students, nobody else.
Sorry , I respect your opinion but you and others have no right to tell us what to do or to impose your opinion on others. Opinion are to be respected but not imposed. If imposed it became dictatorship not democracy
@@souadelamraoui2813 I mean sure, but I’m not telling people what to do, I’m only saying that everyone has their own right to exercise how they want their organization to be run and who can be accepted in it. I personally don’t make my opinion about this war publicly known simply because nobody wins regardless. But the people who are in the wrong about specifically the letter, is that organization who said they wouldn’t publicize the letter because those students trusted them to their word and instead they turned around and made it public. That’s what’s tragic, you expect other people to keep their promises, but they don’t and now those students pay the price. This is why unless you are ready for the consequences, don’t expect people to be good to their word.
I haven't read the letter but releasing it so soon after the attack was like throwing gas on a fire. Someone was going to get burned. TMU needed to discipline those who told students that the letter was internal and then told the school that it was an open letter. Students were injured by the actions of the organizers regardless of their views. What strikes me is the attitude of the law firms. Do they believe that all their co-workers condemn the thoughts of those who stood with Palestine? Do they believe that law students from UofT or York believe any differently than those at TMU? To me the law firms displayed an emotional behaviour no different than the organizers at TMU who wrote and released the letter. It is a poor reflection on the law firms and the high priced lawyers there when decisions are made without reason and instead defined by emotion. Lastly, if the letter was "anti-Russian" because of their aggression towards Ukraine, would TMU have acted differently? A prominent lawyer said that had such a letter been released targeting any other group, the university would have behaved differently. In retrospect, 40,000 innocent people are dead. People who had nothing to do with October 7. Their deaths have nothing to do with eliminating Hamas. Their deaths have everything to do with the expansion of Israel into the West Bank (was already happening with the illegal settlements) and the future Israeli settlement in Gaza. The head honcho at UofT expressed that he would not use his office to further political gain for anyone. Is what is happening in Gaza not a moral issue more than a political one? The UN seems to think so.
Israel's response to the Hamas attack, has not been in furtherence of the settler's movement; indeed understand that Israel had control of Gaza, from 1967 to 2005/6 and handed it back to the Palestinian Authority in the name of the the Two State process. The Israeli government removed the settlers from their farms and collectives, to the detriment of Israeli people, in the name of the Peace Process. So that statement is wrong. And that October 7 is a war crime, fine but not a war crime committed by Hamas? Everyone needs to go back to school and learn REAL history.
This world you are caught up in, is a world you've created. You are not me and I consider even the Canadian government to be illegitimate. I am aware that this is my opinion. I do not expect you to share it. I expect you to tolerate it. Sure, the colonization bit is the hard part to overcome, if you want to overcome it. I see no point in wanting that because, regret is impossible. Welcome neighbor, have some food.
So you would return all the land to indigenous Native Indians and Aborigines? undoubtedly you would not allow them keep all the Innovation and technology that all the so-called colonizers have created and return them to their pre-industrial standard of living, yes?
@@craigfriedman4759 You comparison doesn't really work. The Jewish people are the original inhabitants of Palestine. Some fled and returned much later, but many never went anywhere, and have always been there. The Muslims are Arabs from across the desert that conquered and colonized the Jewish land.
@@pkz420I am aware of and agree with everything you said. I was actually responding to the position that Canada should be returned to its indigenous people. People who say that seem to think that the indigenous people would have been better off having never Met the Europeans. Pre-industrial life expectancy was approximately 35 years, now it is over twice that for indigenous people of Canada as well as the Aborigines of Australia, for instance. Whatever bad effects there were from colonization a doubling of lifespan is a nice benefit. An unspoken assumption is that after all the land is returned to the indigenous people they then want these people to still have access to all the technological advancements the West created. There is no reason to think these indigenous people wouldn't be living the same pre-industrial lifestyle now had they never met the Europeans. No Europeans means no Enlightenment means no advancements.
Sometimes in life there are consequences.
I mean it’s up to the businesses to exercise their rights to determine who is fit to join their organization. Best to keep your own political views to yourself. Also the organizers of that letter seriously messed up by making the letter public. They just messed up the future of the students, nobody else.
Sorry , I respect your opinion but you and others have no right to tell us what to do or to impose your opinion on others. Opinion are to be respected but not imposed. If imposed it became dictatorship not democracy
@@souadelamraoui2813 I mean sure, but I’m not telling people what to do, I’m only saying that everyone has their own right to exercise how they want their organization to be run and who can be accepted in it. I personally don’t make my opinion about this war publicly known simply because nobody wins regardless. But the people who are in the wrong about specifically the letter, is that organization who said they wouldn’t publicize the letter because those students trusted them to their word and instead they turned around and made it public. That’s what’s tragic, you expect other people to keep their promises, but they don’t and now those students pay the price. This is why unless you are ready for the consequences, don’t expect people to be good to their word.
G-d bless the ones that are willing to speak for the innocent.
So, so many innocent women and children 😭
Regardless of everything that is happening, sadness for the innocent children.
I haven't read the letter but releasing it so soon after the attack was like throwing gas on a fire. Someone was going to get burned. TMU needed to discipline those who told students that the letter was internal and then told the school that it was an open letter. Students were injured by the actions of the organizers regardless of their views. What strikes me is the attitude of the law firms. Do they believe that all their co-workers condemn the thoughts of those who stood with Palestine? Do they believe that law students from UofT or York believe any differently than those at TMU? To me the law firms displayed an emotional behaviour no different than the organizers at TMU who wrote and released the letter. It is a poor reflection on the law firms and the high priced lawyers there when decisions are made without reason and instead defined by emotion. Lastly, if the letter was "anti-Russian" because of their aggression towards Ukraine, would TMU have acted differently? A prominent lawyer said that had such a letter been released targeting any other group, the university would have behaved differently.
In retrospect, 40,000 innocent people are dead. People who had nothing to do with October 7. Their deaths have nothing to do with eliminating Hamas. Their deaths have everything to do with the expansion of Israel into the West Bank (was already happening with the illegal settlements) and the future Israeli settlement in Gaza.
The head honcho at UofT expressed that he would not use his office to further political gain for anyone. Is what is happening in Gaza not a moral issue more than a political one? The UN seems to think so.
Israel's response to the Hamas attack, has not been in furtherence of the settler's movement; indeed understand that Israel had control of Gaza, from 1967 to 2005/6 and handed it back to the Palestinian Authority in the name of the the Two State process.
The Israeli government removed the settlers from their farms and collectives, to the detriment of Israeli people, in the name of the Peace Process.
So that statement is wrong.
And that October 7 is a war crime, fine but not a war crime committed by Hamas? Everyone needs to go back to school and learn REAL history.
Jesus weeps
This world you are caught up in, is a world you've created.
You are not me and I consider even the Canadian government to be illegitimate.
I am aware that this is my opinion. I do not expect you to share it.
I expect you to tolerate it.
Sure, the colonization bit is the hard part to overcome, if you want to overcome it.
I see no point in wanting that because, regret is impossible.
Welcome neighbor, have some food.
This smells of ai generation.
So you would return all the land to indigenous Native Indians and Aborigines? undoubtedly you would not allow them keep all the Innovation and technology that all the so-called colonizers have created and return them to their pre-industrial standard of living, yes?
@@craigfriedman4759 Should we take away all medical advances and nuclear technology because they were researched and developed by Nazis?
@@craigfriedman4759 You comparison doesn't really work.
The Jewish people are the original inhabitants of Palestine. Some fled and returned much later, but many never went anywhere, and have always been there.
The Muslims are Arabs from across the desert that conquered and colonized the Jewish land.
@@pkz420I am aware of and agree with everything you said. I was actually responding to the position that Canada should be returned to its indigenous people. People who say that seem to think that the indigenous people would have been better off having never Met the Europeans. Pre-industrial life expectancy was approximately 35 years, now it is over twice that for indigenous people of Canada as well as the Aborigines of Australia, for instance. Whatever bad effects there were from colonization a doubling of lifespan is a nice benefit. An unspoken assumption is that after all the land is returned to the indigenous people they then want these people to still have access to all the technological advancements the West created. There is no reason to think these indigenous people wouldn't be living the same pre-industrial lifestyle now had they never met the Europeans. No Europeans means no Enlightenment means no advancements.