How to get Desaix's Draco Shield QUICK AND EASY. Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia Guide.
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A remake of Fire Emblem Gaiden for the Nintendo 3DS.
On the continent of Valentia lived a pair of sibling gods, Mila and Duma. These two gods fought a savage war over their conflicting ideals, before finally forging a pact to divide the continent into two. Afterwards, two nations-Rigel and Zofia-were formed around these gods. In the coming millennia, the continent ushered in an age of peace. However, in the current era, war threatens to engulf Valentia once again and only two youths-Alm and Celica-hold the power to stop it.
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Protip: You can play the map normally, just clear every enemy except Slayde and Desaix, then use the "Retreat" command. When you retry the map, Desaix and Slayde will be the only enemies left on the field still. From there you just need to lock Slayde in the supply room when he goes there to heal.
Chas Gulley wait you can do that? Holy shit!
Now it's doable ;)
Thanks man!
Got a video on this? Sladye keeps getting himself killed by attacking my units.
@@Vamoss39 Finally got it. Just bait Slayde and his cavalier squad to the right tower, then retreat. When I return, his entire squad is up there but their attack range are way shorter and you can comfortably move in and kill Desaix's group.
"no grinding to tier 3"
damn shots fired at abdallah
The Sailor Inkvader TBH abdallah makes terrible content he always has
When it comes to Fire Emblem... well, he covers it, but it's not exactly what I'd call entertaining
I thought my brother and I were the only ones who felt this way. I can't watch any of his fire emblem videos cause they're just aggravating to watch.
Tbh I think abdallah grinds so much so he doesn't have to spend alot of time playing the game. He just wants to get episodes out asap as long as the game is relevant. I love his other content, but his fire emblem videos are difficult to watch.
Abdallah is a piece of shit.
Or...you could just Retreat cheese this whole entire thing. Keep on retreating until Slayde is placed on top of the fortress the archers used to start at and never enter his or his cavalry servants' ranges. Then you can solely focus on Desaix while Slayde and his goons sit there like idiots.
sdw4527 you the MVP
Okay pro tip for anyone trying to get diseaix Draco shield on normal, slayde only moves if a unit is in his range so if you bring him off to the right and leave with Clair then he will stay there the entire battle
yep, first try thanks to this. Does it work differently on hard?
@BlackMageLozi Yeah, Slayde's Ai is a bit different on hard. I tried this video on normal and i changed it a bit since only on cav attacked my mercenary instead of the dog pile thing. Slayde ended up getting himself killed and I had to restart from a previous save since I ran out of turnwheel charges.
My strategy for grabbing Desaix's Draco Shield. Results may vary.
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Edit:
Additional things from the comments:
Not 2 Lightning Swords, just wicked trade strats.
And this was done on Hard Mode.
Failed step 3, got my dick stuck in a toaster
a flier to bait slayde until he's out of reach of anyone worked like a charm and proved easier
IMPORTANT NOTICE: most of this strategy is only useful for hard mode, as there are a number of changes in it. For example: in normal mode, Slayde will only move you once you enter his attack range, meaning that he will NOT move when the generic Cavaliers move. Due to a number of A.I. changes, the most widely accepted strategy for getting the Dracoshield in normal mode is this: Get Clair to a point where she will not die to Slayde within 3 rounds of combat, nor kill him (likely between levels 5-10, as she likely already has enough base speed to double Slayde. Her attack growth is low, so she will likely not be able to deal any meaningful damage, and giving her the Leather Shield should give her enough defense to ensure her survival) , then lure him away to the narrow section just below the west or east ramparts. After that, abuse Clair's "Flying Unit" status to move her over the rampart and onto the castle walls. Slayde should just sit there due to not having a target to attack. After that, perform the usual strategy of tinking (not-actually-the-real-) Desaix until he staggers back, drops to his knees, and face-plants.
Calvin Elwin Thank you so much for the info, I got the Dracoshield thanks to you and Ghast!
Calvin Elwin o
If you already unlocked the second skill of the Levin sword, you can speed up the fight against Desaix drastically. Foudroyant doubles the Levin swords Mt (for some reason this isn't mentioned in the description) and will deal 10 damage.
or use the even faster skill "armor breaker" steel(?) lance with a tank like Gray or Lukas, since that skill did 8(!) damage to him by that, speeding up the progress drastically!
Evilriku13 Really? Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't you need 25 atk on your unit to deal 8 damage?
Armorcrush triples the mt of the steel lance and adds 4 points of damage.
Since you can't forge your weapons at this point of the game this would give us 16 additional damage.
25+16=41
41-33=8
Foudroyant on the other hand ignores the users atk stat and deals always 30 points of magical damage. To reach 25 atk on Lukas, Gray, etc. it will need a lot of grinding. But maybe I'm missing an important part in the damage calculation. If this is the case, please let me know.
Well.. Gray had around 22 ATK (lance included, not the armor breaker tho) so.. I at least did HIGH damage against Desaix that skill :)
Still, guys, that would involve grinding. This is one way to do it while not grinding
keep in mind though that foudroyant takes a semi-hefty amount of hp and desaix does hit pretty hard, so use that skill with necessary caution :P
did he-
did he just subtly diss abdallah
oh my god
my run was perfect. one more turn and i would have killed desaix but kliff went and double crited slayde... my life
He can't turnwheel since he wins the battle.
I know it’s late but the best way to avoid that ( it’s more for those that haven’t done it yet ) is to actually fight slayde with your lightning sword myrmidon, lightning sword actually decreases your luck so critting slayde is basically impossible, and it will always do enough damage to make him go to the supplies
Under any other circumstances, that would be pretty hype.
You could also bait out Slayde by equipping Claire with the leather shield and having her lure him to where Alm's army starts then have her fly over the wall where Alm's party should be at the top of.
NerdyInferno_Blue I think that only works on normal
No, I did that in Hard Mode. It's honestly more reliable because blocking Slayde doesn't always work.
Pro big brain strats
"quick and easy"
so easy
Ghast if I may add. You could train either Lukas or Forsyth to become a knight then give them the Steel lance until the point where they learn the Armorcrusher art. It may not deal significant damage due to the Dracoshield but it may make killing Desaix much easier.
I can't believe I'm watching this again after a year or so because of Mekkah's Blind LP.
Another tip I'd like to share: If you have an amiibo (Robin is amazing for this purpose due to his high magical damage), use it against Desaix. Do be careful not to summon it too close to other enemies, as it might target them instead.
so my yoshi amiibo doesn't work?
WalnutProphecy
No walnut your yoshi amiibo doesn't work
Instructions unclear, 3ds thrown at wall
Just use Mila's Turnwheel then
Python just up and dropped a double crit on Slayde whule I was watching this.
Twist my fucking arm.
your pfp >>>
better than ign's guides
ign is literally just filled with Waifu loving filthy ass casuals who don't care for strategy but rather face rubbing their Waifus and Husbandos
Anything is
I'm struggling with the part of the plan that involves getting Slayde to run for supplies he still prioritizes killing a fully healed Clive over healing himself at 2 hp
When trying to get this, I lost Python during this. I didn't want to turnwheel because I was so close to getting the shield. Python was sacrificed for the greater good
worth it
Sacrificed Clive, I have no regrets.
AJ Corpuz you can always revive him at one of the golden springs
I just did actually in the first one you get at Alm's route
Python sucks anyways. Nbd.
I made Faye a mage, she learned Sagittae, 2 hit kill on Desaix
kcbaldree damn
I got her to saint with some grinding, soloed the entire map
gizmos and gadgets I got her at level one saint, used Silque to warp her next to Desaix, shortly after five hits from faye ( and a little help from Alm) Desaix was defeated.
@@gizmosandgadgets5751 I grinded too much on everyone. One shotted Slayde (and all the knights I tried to lure.) ;_;
PuchimonExtreme if you grinded that much surely you should’ve had warp and rescue right?
Love this notification system. I saw your twitter post about this video I can't wait to watch the vid!
Thanks for making this video Ghast! I'm gonna try it out on my second play through.
Extreme pro strats and very reliable!
Thanks a lot Ghast! This is a very exhilarating challenge without grinding!
This is way easier on Normal beyond reasons such as weaker/fewer enemies. All you need to do essentially is bait Slayde away to the right wall. I gave Claire the leather shield and drew him away and let everyone else deal with all the other enemy units. And the hilarious part is that Slayde will just stay put where you lured him as long as you don't go into his range. Desaix has 3 less HP and 2 less attack in normal as well. But this video is definitely handy for wanting to do it in Hard mode!
Then again, the more difficult the game is, the more valuable that Dracoshield is going to be.
+TorgorX // 0M3GA I gave it to Faye, she takes 1 damage from enemy Barons, what is this
+Mudkip Southerncross That seems normal to me, my Faye is basically a Baron in Saints clothing. She is my most useful unit. I kind of want to use a villagers fork to try and change her into a mage, then priestess to get a sword on her, but I don't think spells transfer.
+MK7219000 She os even better than a Baron, Nosferatanking for days tho
That strat works on Hard Mode too.
I love that you're advocating for strategy, my strategy was WAY different and way easier.
But it focused more on my Sniper Tolbin and Archer Python clearing out the archers. (I was feeding experience to Python since I had just gotten him). Have Tolbin/Python kill snipers to the left, have Clair open the door. Funnel in, have Tolbin/Python kill second set of archers and soldier. Once the path is clear, barricade the center with 3 units, I had Knight Forsyth to the left, knight Lucas down the middle, and Mage Kliff (with leather shield) on the right position. Had Cleric Faye behind Kliff and Sniper Tolbin behind Faye, Had Alm behind Lukas, and Cleric Silque behind Alm, had merc Gray (equiped with lightning sword) behind Forsyth, and Python behind Gray.
That barricade baits out all of the cavalry units, including Slayde who will focus on Lukas/Forsyth. 1 double attack from merc Gray will put Slayde at 10hp and will automatically have him run back to the bunker to get healed.
Kill off all the cavalry with your barricade and move up, keeping Lukas/Forsyth in the middle but keeping your knight unit infront of the wall to funnel enemies to attack 1 by 1, it'll bait out the archers to attack him once he's in range, along with Desaix.
Kill off the peons and Desaix will attack Lukas/Forsyth and will be covered to the sides by 2 walls, use Silque to Warp Python/Lukas (the other knight unit that isn't in front of Lukas) BEHIND Desaix, effectively locking him into place. You can move Paladin Clive infront of the barracks where Slayde will be healing and keep him caged there. After, you can warp Faye between Clive and Python/Forsyth and use her to heal either Clive or your second knight blocking in Desaix, and you can use Silque to heal your knight in front of Desaix, keeping him on life support from Desaix hitting like a truck. I placed Alm to the left of Lukas, and Gray behind him, to the left of Silque and traded Lighting blade between Alm and grey to double attack for elemental damage with Alm and ranged thunderclap with Gray, I had Kliff to the right of Lukas attacking with Excalibur and Python and Tolbin attacking from ranged as sniper and archer.
That strategy made it super easy and just a waiting game to take down Desaix. It minimized his attack to units who could handle his attacks, minimized not having 4 units get counter attacked chipping away at him, didn't have to have any units hold on to food, locked him into position, didn't have to worry about Slayde. It was like taking candy, dragon flavored candy, from a baby!
Hopefully this helps anyone else! STRATEGY!!! NOT GRINDING!!!
You never finished your comment. Also, you defeated Desaix that way? The sneaky part of this is getting the Draco Shield on Hard.
Hey Hero, yeah I was able to defeat Desaix on Hard Classic that way!
Alm attacks x2, Gray attacks once from 3 spaces away, Python attacks x2, Tolbin attacks x2, Kliff attacks x2, Forsyth can attack x2, Faye can attack x2 (If she doesn't have to heal anyone) Lukas can attak x2 (If Desaix misses his attack) and Silque can attack x2 (if she doesn't have to heal Lukas or Gray).
Normally with Clive and Slayde, the armored unit is attacking Clive and it blocks Slayde from even attacking Clive. Once Desaix is taken down, Slayde runs away, and the last unit to finish off is the Armored unit.
A quick Diorama would be: # = Wall, AK = Armor Knight
Slade
### AK ###
Clive
Faye
Forsyth
###Desaix###
Alm Lukas Kliff Tolbin
Gray Silque Python
I didn't include Clair because my Claire was made of Glass.
Also, with Desaix being stuck between the 2 walls, he doesn't get the +20 avoid from the tile, helping everyone else land hits a lot more easily.
This was the safest way that I could find to get the Dragon Shield from Desaix, aftewards my Grays Speed skyrocketed. He's currently a lvl 10 Myrmidon with his speed at 18, I gave him a pegasus cheese to get him to 20 and equipped him with the Dragon Shield, he's an absolute beast! Its almost game breaking how beast he is, 20+ defence and doubles almost everything with a speed of 10 with the dragon shield equipped. Gray is totally my spirit animal! lol
@@maniacallyhappy Now that's strategy!
I have/found a waaaaay simpler way of getting this done.
*I used Faye and Clair to take out the archers at the east point (as flyer classes).
*I used a flyer (it can be either or) to open the far east door.
*I then used a flyer to bait out the cavalier-enemy troops - Keeping the flyer in range of the troops, whilst far enough to evade the chance of Slayde attacking.
[Slayde LOVES to attack flyers, so he runs up to the flyer bait every time.
With the flyer, I led Slayde all the way West-Up into the East point of the fortress and through the far east door
*Meanwhile, I had all the other units move to the west and had Silque warp the tougher ones north West-past the upper west point of the fortress-right next to Desaix's supply hold (so as to get them ready for the attack on Desaix).
*The door on the East was opened and Slayde was led into the range of my somewhat under leveled archer-Python-who stood right in the doorway to block off entry from Slayde,whilst keeping the distraction-battle going on.
[Python and Slayde were at it-]
I had Python at Level-Lv 13 and equipped with a Steel Bow.
Missing enough with that Steel Bow to keep Slayde alive. I kept Shade close enough to continuously heal Python with her Physic.
*Lukas, with his great Knight class defensive stats, stood at the entrance to Desaix's supply stronghold.
I equipped 2 myrmidon class units with Lightning swords and placed the on either side of Lucas.
[Damage from 3 units - whilst Slayde was blocked off and distracted at the far western door]
It was risky for the flyers (especially Clair-since Clair was lower levelled), yet I had the flyers equipped with Javelins and join in on the attack on Desaix.
((Adding the flyers to the Desai onslaught is only optional-not mandatory from here))
*This is the BIG part
I then moved Silque up and behind Lucas-right in attack range of range of Desai. Sine the archers were already dealt with by the Javelin equipped flyers, Silque was safe from attack.
*** Once Slayde is busily distracted with Python (outside of the far western door), Shade is there to heal Python and Silque in place to attack (right and safe behind Lucas), *the path to attaining the Draco shield is clear*
[Get Silque to attack with-use her Seraphim - 3 hit points of damage at a time on Desaix and 9 when in critical + attacks from the other units and it is goal-Draco Shield soon enough]
Have fun.
Also. Make sure that you start the Desaix onslaught before the Slayde and Python battle starts.
Both Slayde and Python can only take so much before things get dangerous.
Make sure that Python is only an archer. Do not raise Python's class
#Desaix runs if Slayde is taken down
I gave the Draco shield to Silque. Silque is the only unit that I think NEEDS the Draco ⛨
What I would have done to improve this is to have both Lukas and Forsyth promoted to knights and have them box Dessaix between the small doorway before the supply area so he has a harder time damaging other units while remaining non-ranged units deal with enemies near the supplies.
Even if Forsyth isn't promoted, you can use Alm's defense and luck to tank the other side. This takes more turns, but it's much less risky as Forsyth may get crit and die. There's probably a way to avoid that using supports but I'm unsure if it would still require grinding which many people would rather avoid.
Alumchai I did this exact strategy and Forsyth had a 0% critical chance just as long as his supports were nearby, and the only grinding I did was making sure the two soldiers were promoted into knights which didn't take any time
Yeah I didn't do any grinding at all so I had base Forsyth at a non-zero crit rate. I believe it's his python support that gives crit dodge but I'm unsure what rank you need.
I guess promoting Forsyth is an option it just probably isn't necessary especially since Alm can gain access to a ridiculous amount of provisions to help in healing himself if Faye is something other than a cleric for some reason, or to have one of the healers assist in killing Desaix to speed up the process.
Alumchai you only really need one healer if you don't attack with the people boxing him in, just heal whoever gets attacked. Also if you still have a crit chance on Forsyth just give him the leather shield and Desaix will attack Lucas since he can deal note damage that way
Does doing the Sidequest in Ram Village that requires you to kill 20 Brigands count as grinding? I mean, it's technically required for 100% and it disappears after Act 1, so...
Thanks for the guide! I was able to get the Dracoshield for my 2nd playthrough on Hard!
Fully expecting the answer to be "warp staff"
If you have the dlc: simply run through the inner sanctum until you find 2 shields of either silver or emperors from breaking pots. Lure out slayde, and trap in one of the 3 hallways between 2 people with shields. He will always attack 1 person and just have silque heal them occasionally. This required me not to grind literally at all, every unit was still their starting class, and yes this was on hard mode. It was so much easier and only took me like 3 minutes to find two shields in the jars.
Thank you so much for this guide it helped so much!
I took the shield with 0 grinding:
2 Knights, Silque who warps your knight to behind Desaix, the other stays in front of him, and trap him in the small corridor between the supplies and the rest of the map.
It's a grind game, but no biggie.
Lukas and the green haired dude can wear shields.
Let Slayde go for supplies in the upper part of the map, and bait Desaix down with one of your knights until he is in the small corridor where he can't go left or right, then warp your other knight behind him.
Desaix will pound down on your knight, who might take around 9 damage if they're not too strong, but you can heal that off with just 1 cleric (silque)
In the meantime Lukas + Iron shield will not be targeted, as the AI seems to prioritise the weaker unit (ie your other knight who can be healed by Silque) meaning only slayde (who is trapped) will try to attack whenever his HP gets high enough.
From there, just have 2 archers hit him with steel bows, a lightningsword user, tobin with excal and clair with javelin (this will also keep slayde from hitting lukas as slayde will prefer chasing clair) for 10 damage without crits, or 12 damage if you can attack with your knight too (max health usually means you can get away with it, Desaix has like 2 crit chance anyways.)
It takes a while, especially because of misses, but this strategy let's you beat desaix with only 1 requirement: Having 2 knights. Everything else is completely additional; as you only need Silque for this to work and unless you do a special run you will have her.
Additionally it does help if you retreat, but it's not necessary. The caster is an issue as long as it's there, but taking it out (even if it takes long) means you basically got the shield.
Probably not the best strategy in the world, but it worked for me (even though I lost once cause Lukas critted Slayde and I won/lost/desaix fled and battle ended since he was the last enemy); was super happy I managed to get the shield without any kind of guide :D
Right now my Hard/Classic/NoGrind LTC for the Act 1 Dracoshield is on 21 turns. Gonna try to bring it down to 17 next time.
I personally did it without Warp or Physic, but that's just me. With my setup, it wouldn't have even made a difference.
Strategery, son!
Was gonna pm gs for this , Thanks , this helps a lot!
I was playing on hard classic and Slayde never went to heal? He was at 2 hp and he still attacked my Lightning sword merc even though the door was open. Why is that?
i tried it, it didnt work. slayde just kept attacking me. he has 2 HP!! i had the door open and everything!!
Well, this reply is three years late, but whatever. Slayde will run away if and only if he can reach the supplies at the northern end of the map. This means you cannot block him in any way. The one tile entryway into the supply room cannot be blocked, the corridor south of where the archers were on the wall cannot be blocked (although you can avoid this by opening the other door on the opposite side of the map), the little courtyard just outside of the supply room cannot be blocked, and so on. If Slayde can reach the supplies, even in the most roundabout way, he will take it, otherwise he'll attack and probably kill himself.
Watching this video from Ghast called f
damn, i was JUST about to comment that. AND you got a heart from ghast? gdi.
I wish you had come out with this sometime before June, you know, before I ground for the long and tedious grinding process began for me. This is a really insightful view on the game's AI though, and a good tutorial on that stupid bane of my existence dracoshield.
I just go to the right where I use clair to open the door. Kill the cavalry at the stairs (right at the end of their agro range. Get slade on the stairs and injure him. Put clair behind him and open the path the the long route. Then move in to kill the archers, mage and armour knight at range (thunderclap/bow) whilst juggling slade with clair (she can block both end with one move, so slade goes back and forth) Then lure dessaix to the left (Lukas with shield), down, right and u so that I've got the healing tiles and dessaix is blocking slade from reaching. This strategy doesn't require anything but a lukas being a knight (he has too little def otherwise.
I have another strategy that, while I need to test it a few more times for consistency in setup definitely worked flawlessly and was much simpler to pull off. It used a similar setup and strategy to what you did except it didn't involve kiting around Slayde.
Only requirement I can definitely see it at least one Knight and Silque knowing Warp (second healer with physic is not necessary but is very preferred), then three other units that can survive a hit from Desaix. A second cleric and as many ranged healers as you can get is preferred to make your life easier, but just having one guy with the lightning sword and Python is minimally enough, because those two and whichever guy Desaix is attacking counterattacking him you'll be doing 6 damage to his healing of 5.
Once you reach the point where the cavaliers and Slayde come out let Slayde attack someone (or attack Slayde) who'll deal a lot of damage to him but not kill him, that'l send him right back into the supply zone.
Next, after he runs away send a unit one square just inside Desaix's maximum range (you want the empty square above him to be between those two pillars).
Once he's baited out have Silque warp someone with high defense to the square above Desaix so he's now separated from the supplies and Slayde is trapped in there alongside the knight and a cavalier if you're lucky.
Then just box in Desaix and keep wailing on him like in your video. So long as the guy who's keeping Slayde and friends in the supply box and Desaix outside is tankier than Desaix's other options to attack AND that that guy can hurt Slayde but not kill him Desaix will always attack the guy with the least defence. Not once did he turn around and attack the Knight I had positioned above him. However that parts consistency I need to check, I think enemy mooks moved before he did so I ended up in a long drawn out battle with that knight followed by the cavalier who would keep returning to heal more often than not rather than Slayde doing anything.
Oh my gosh I grinded at inner sanctum and took 2 zweihanders and a Sol in Act 1. I used Solar Thrust and a critical tigerstance on Desaix to get the shield
I get that this game is 3 years old, but I started playing it again on a harder difficulty and this actually an amazing strategy
I got Slayde down to 2 HP, Clive was standing on the staircase behind where the enemy archers used to be and Lukas was standing on the leftmost point between that high ground and the outer wall. Slayde can still get inside by going around the outer wall and I made sure the entrance to the innermost wall wasn't obstructed, but he still attacked Clive and got defeated. What did I do wrong?
While trying to get the Dracoshield, I had to retreat since I was in danger, and when I came back, Slayde was relocated on the right side where the archers and soldiers were, Desaix didn't move, and the enemies I've already beaten didn't respawn. The only thing keeping me from Desaix was one knight. I feel like retreating, and then returning would help out a lot, that's how I got the shield.
So I did attempt this before on Normal difficulty (don't think that should matter but eh), baiting Slayde out with Clive and luring him away. Made sure I kept a route to the supplies spaces open for him. But... no matter what I did, Slayde kept pursuing Clive, even while as low as 4 HP. I even left the short route open for a turn, see if that got him to retreat, but it didn't. He just kept attacking Clive. I don't get it.
On another note, the number of people recommending Foudroyant here kinda surprises me, because that basically tells me that a lot of people do grind pretty commonly.
I used Clair (leather shield) to drive Slayde to the far left bottom of the castle.
Used Lukas and Forsythe to block Desaix's exit to take the hits.
Every long range unit to attack him.
Once his HP was low, warped Alm inside Desaix's area to block supplies and dealt finishing blow.
Satisfying. :)
It sure does feel good to get that dracoshield without promoting any of your units. Thanks for the tips.
Thank You Ghast
Even when I open the door and have Slayde at low health, he just kills himself.
okay can someone help me im playing in normal and only difference that is going on is that my gray not a mrymidon he gets the ability promote this map but im to the slayde part and dont want to resatrt but he won't go away to heal is this something that happens on normal only
What I did was bait Slayde to the left side of the map using Clair, and then bait Desaix to the stairs in the right side of the map using a knight. Then I trapped him on the stairs (there's no terrain bonus) using the other knight and Clive for his backside. You can use your archers and mage/clerics, plus I used lightning sword with Gray as well since you can use it as a long-ranged weapon.
I have a small improvement to this strategy. After initially luring Desaix out, on the next turn you want to move him one space down. This way you can pin him between only two units, as well as the short wall on the sides. I pinned him in between Lukas and base Forsyth with a Leather Shield - the latter being the one Desaix kept attacking. Being able to pin him in like that allows for a unit that can't attack at range to continue manipulating Slayde's path to heals so you don't have to have a unit keeping him in the healing area. This would take a bit longer, perhaps, but it does mean you might be able to get the Dracoshield without Cleric Faye. At some point I did need to have Forsyth trade for a provision, then the person who he took it from would trade him the shield back, since he was taking more damage than he would be healed for.
I did like how you manipulated Slayde, since you needed less units to lure him out than I used. I ended up luring him into the middle then using like 4 or 5 units above him to block his escape back to heals. I managed to get him running around the outside of the castle though, which was pretty funny.
Oh right, since neither my Merc nor Alm were directly next to Desaix, I used Lukas to pass the Lightning Sword between the two.
just got the dracoshield
great guide man
2 knights 2 clerics 1 archer 1 mage and alm with lightning sword is all i used. claire baited the other general and the stuck shield bro inbetween the pylons and took my time
Thank you! This was a very helpful video. Though I haven't even thought about who I should put the shield on.. I will be back to this comment one day!
I looked on your channel to see if you had a guide on this JUST YESTERDAY. oh well...
it will be much easier if you put in a little bit of grinding to get armor crush on clive's steel lance or get the foudroyant skill on the lighting sword with either alm or a mercenary, and you should also lead him to a plain/stair tile so he's easier to hit
I found that if you can get Alm to learn the Foudroyant combat art that you can actually do meaningful amounts of damage to Desaix, but it does mean that you'll probably need to heal him twice. Though it made a big difference.
I have a question, Slayde keeps attacking my merc instead of going to get healed, what should I do
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but Slayde keeps suiciding into one of my units blocking the short path instead of taking the long one to heal. Does playing on Normal make Slayde stupider?
Doesnt work for me i dont know what im doing wrong. When slayde is bellow 50% hp he doesnt run away. He keeps fighting and kills himself :( pls help (ps i made sure the door was open)
Has this been fixed? Or is being on hard mode somehow a requirement? Because when i move my merc into the cavs ranges, only the cav in range comes my way...
Hmm is there a way to increase the convey limit later in game? Awakening has I believe unlimited storage & so far I'm still in ch.1 so I haven't gotten further to see if so.
Thx, you're a legend
Question: If you don't want to use the Dracoshield, then what was the whole point of that hard way?
Does this still work? I’ve tried and slayde just plays hyper aggressive and is impossible to keep alive now.
Hey people, how do you swap starting positions at the beginning of a battle?
What I did for this was trap Slayde in the healing zone by blocking the exit with Forsyth and healing him with Faye, then just get to a safe spot like the stairs so Desaix hits just 1 unit and you can hit him with other, I had 2 archers, 1 mage, Alm and Silk hitting him per round, went pretty smooth (it was on hard mode without any tier 2 class or grind).
this was so annoying to do because I was doing an iron man and lost Slique so my only healer was Faye and I didn't know about the retreat method either, it was very time consuming using clair to make Slayde couldn't get to the supplies
What's your Kliff's defence? I made mine an Archer so I'll have to use Clive.
This doesn't work on normal. The range of slayde and the cavaliers is smaller, so my cavalier has to keep moving up, so the choke point doesn't work
I did everything like u said, but Slayde always seems to engage my Paladin instead of leaving for the long way, and I didn't even block the long way, and ends up killing himself. What gives?
Man, this is way more complicated then how I did it my first time around.
there's something you forgot. grind up Clive until his steel Lance gets armorcrush. it's a lifesaver
For some reason, the enemy units do not chase me unless I'm in their range. Even after I engaged one enemy, the cavaliers up above don't move. And when I eventually hit Slayde enough to reach low hp, he won't flee to heal.
I'm so confused
That seems to be the case in Normal. From reading the comments, there's some other methods that can help.
It took a while, but I Level 10 promoted Lukas into Knight and then into Baron. Gave him Steel Lance and unlocked Armorcrush, dealing 7 damage, and one time I got a 9% crit, bringing Desaix down to 12-18 HP. One more Armorcrush, and then full Assault to finish the job
It worked, thank you so much ^o^
Sooo does this still work? I tried it and it definitely doesn't work like in this video, at least for me.
What I did (in Normal, Classic Mode) was: Manuevre units around Slayde's range to take out the enemies, then move all units into the left building except for Faye and Silque. Have Faye move into the right building, and have Silque bait Slayde out, with Faye healing with Physic. Once Silque baits Slayde to the front of the right building, have Faye rescue Silque into the right building, and then just deal with Desaix as Ghast did.
i'm playing on normal and i am having a really hard time not killing slayde. this strat also doesn't seem to work on normal
If you get the shield in the beginning of the game can you also get another one?
I have some problems
First. The caveleirs and slayde don't all charge. Also when I isolate slayde in the tower. He keeps atacking Clive and dying instead of taking the long route. The door is open.
Ok so I tried again. Again slayde didn't charge again. And this time he tacked gray and died instead of retreating
What am I doing wrong?
Yeah I prefer grinding to third tier to get a much more satisfying kill than just hearing the sound of only dealing 1 damage to him everytime. Takes longer but makes it more satisfying to just curbstomp Desaix despite this one being a double if you beat Desaix first and Slayde spits out the info.
i dont know if i did something wrong and cant find it in your strat or if ur version of the battle and mine were different. are u on higher difficulty? There were no archers in the middle area and only one cavalier charged me.
DDespicable You're playing on Normal. On Hard mode, they all charge you and there are more units
The Dracoshield and The Pitchfork are the reason why I now have a godlike Faye. so uhh this video is cool.
I used a Claire and a cleric Faye to bait Slayde to the right corner and weakened him a bit, then I did retreat to the othrer side of the wall with Claire and he satayed in place. After that I used wrap strats and everyone else to chip damage Desaix. Ofc it took a few extra turns.
This works on Normal difficulty. On hard, Slayde will continue to pursue the closest unit. However, you can just have him chase Clair around walls why she just flies over them.
The thing is, in Hard mode Slayde doesn't stay in place
This is not working for me
I got slayde to 1 HP but he keep attack gray
I it not working because of the update
I didn't use the trade strat with the Lightning Sword. I just gave it to Gray and he did his part in chipping at Desaix. When he had only around 12 HP left, Gray mastered Foundrayt (or however its spelled) on the Lightning Sword. I used this on Desaix when Desaix had only 1 HP left as a fuck it attack, but it turns out that it did 10 HP to Desaix, so grinding out for Foundrayt to take out 1/4 of Desaix's health in one attack is pretty good. A healer can probably just heal out the 8 HP penalty for using it.
Nooo I over grinded to help with previous levels. What do I do now? I get through all of slade's men on the opposing's turn. When Slade attacks me I do damage enough to put him into his "healing AI"
i tried this and slayde decided to kill himself instead of going for the supplies
2004CreeperSlayer same
I just trapped slayde in the healing room and surrounded Desaix with Alm and Lukas, did chip damage until Alm could use the levin sword's skill to take him out.
I made Kliff into a sniper. Is it still possible to do this?
Oh, that's clever. I did pretty much the same thing, but when Slayde retreated to the supplies, I let him and trapped him in there with Clive
An easier way is to kite him to the right side ramparts and use rescue on the cavalier so he has nothing in agro range. Didn't have to hit him once, have all troops go far left to kill Duceix.
um...how did you have a cavalier kliff in the beginning, and a Merc kliff later in the video?
In the attempt in at the start, silque died at somepoint, so ghast took the remaining footage from his LP
Heres is a easier way of doing it just kill a few units then retreat keep doing it until its just slade left he will be on the little balcony and he will not move as long as you are not in his range like at all.
The real quick and easy route: Alm/Celica Amiibo. They retain the stats and abilities of the Alm/Celica written on them, regardless of your progress. So you can just send a max level Alm from a completed save at Desaix and make the rest of the game a lot easier for you.
I just stuck my two knights on either side of him with Clive and Alm switching on top and all my long ranged spamming him
So, I feel that it's better to make Faye a Pegasus Knight as she can double team with Claire to open the Door on one side and then pull Slayde to the other by sitting on the cusp of the wall and then retreating one title over to force him to be trapped in the far left corner. The Aerial units ability to ignore terrain will allow for a quick escape and Faye's sturdiness will mean she can take a hit or 2 from Slayde without fear of dying. She can then continue to move far and around to be out of his range and he'll continue to sit in the corner as long as so no one enters his field and this will allow your unit enough moving room to take the supply area behind Desaix to help with extra healing.
This has so many steps and without seeing this video i did it first time with two knights traping him between the two first pillars using warp with silk to do so, lukaswas behind desaix because he had more defense and have my units go all out fay or fae (sorry always forget her name) was a pegasus knight and didn't have physic obviously because she wan't a cleric and it still was a peace of cake. Great tutorial nonetheless.
Man I wished I knew this*i definitely knew this before fighting him but I still brought 2 saints(faye and sique) to battle him