I always have caption on anyway but I don't really need for these videos. I like that, but I read it still the hole time. I'm slightly hard hearing so it's a habit
The mother pretending to be her daughter is the most f-up thing I have ever seen. Who does that?!? The two older adults are directly responsible for that young man’s death.
@@somewherebetweenpsychotica9224 Because sometimes parents are not of a "boomer" as their teenage kids think they are. It's a common thing for teenagers to have risque pictures of themselves and very easy for young guys to pass them around. My daughters are terrified to do so because they know that I will KNOW, within a day of them posting them. Just like it took me a few days to figure out what handle my then 13 year old had to flirt with guys on Instagram. The real issue was the fact that she was saving those and using them in my opinion.
How anyone could converse with someone calling themselves “tallhotblonde”, “MarineSniper” or “beefcake” and think that person is a mature, emotionally and mentally stable adult is beyond me.
I'm glad the real Jessi cut off contact with her mother. Stealing her identity like that is wrong in so many ways, and in my mind unforgivable. Would never be able to trust her again.
What if Thomas desided to kill Jessi as well, tracked down her address and ended up killing the womans daughter, the real Jessi, not knowing she didn't have anything to do with this whole triangle her mother had created! 😱 People just don't realize what kind of consequences their actions in the internet can have!
Tom didn't know that Mary was lying, so her lie shouldn't influence his sentence or guilt. In his mind, he had lied to this 18 year old girl and she moved on despite feeling conflicted. He felt so entitled to her affection that he murdered a young man. He is a terrible person, can't believe that they charged him with manslaughter when it was clearly a premeditated attack and his goal was to kill Brian.
100% agree that Mary had no culpability in the murder but I’ll just note that I had the same reaction to the manslaughter charge until I heard he got a 20 year sentence for it. If it was like a nickel or dime I would’ve been heated
the reason they charged him with 2nd degree murder, it was considered an act of passion, he was manipulated into believing a lie that left him in a delirious state of mind that led to a crime of passion (even though it was still premeditated 1st degree murder, which we know), the prosecutor didn't believe they could get a conviction for 1st degree murder, given the drama and cat fishing that occurred, so they opted to charge it to 2nd degree murder. however, his lawyer then stepped in and said, so my client will plead guilty to a lesser charge of manslaughter but will still be sentenced to the maximum amount of time, saving the town and you from gone to trial, setting the case or we will see you in court. clearly the da lacked a spine and agreed. he's still serving a lengthy sentence but ultimately its not Justice. considering many murderers get off serving less than 10yrs, at least he's behind bars. although, a more fitting sentence would be life with the real woman who manipulated both of them out of boredom
It's just sad that people get away with murdering someone, and get a Manslaughter charge. My best friend was murdered in the spring because the attacker thought that my best friend called him a name, which he didn't, and got stabbed once in the heart. He never had been in a fight in his entire life. The guy got a plea deal for manslaughter..... I miss him so much, everyone does. He was the nicest person I've ever met.
That lady was downright disgusting using her daughters picture. Nevermind the fact she could get recognized It's just crazy! People are nuts. Scary times we live in. 😳
U Kno that show on MTV, called Catfish? U know it spun off from a documentary where the host, Nev, (spelling?) actually was Catfished by an older lady using someone else's pics. I can't remember but I think it may have been her daughter too! Ironically and coincidentally, he recorded everything, from their online romance, to his road trip to meet her in person. Point is, that show blew up and is actually where the term "Catfish" came from. How can people still not be hip to this crap??? It's mind boggling
I know all of these types of things have gone on forever the only difference is the general world population is more aware due to MASS MEDIA ! I have a news paper from the late 1800s with stories in it that aside from the use of archaic words in them they are as horrible and shocking as anything today . Which should give us all pause to reflect on the state of humanity and really our private lives . To just except that this is just the way things are , to me and should be to all if us not an option ! We , I believe can change the dynamics of our own homes , neighborhood's etc. Be actually concerned about others wellbeing more then the clothes they wear or language they speak! The condition of a place that people live in can speak volumes as to their wellbeing . So if your neighbor has weeds and things that need fixing don't judge offer help to them instead . If you have something that they can use or something you no longer need or use ? Give it to them ! You don't have to sit and do nothing but stew over what's wrong with them or get angry and blow up on them ! Choose to show compassion and kindness . By some simple action the impact on all involved can be something miraculous and the ripple effect of this type of behavior is infectious . The positivity can spread in an incalculable and unimagined way . People in your own immediate family are different from you why does it bother people so much to have people around them that are also different ? Build bridges not burn them ,build friendships not enemies , build a world united not fractured and think before you act in any way . Believe that you are making a difference with every act of kindness because YOU REALLY ARE ! Don't know where all that came from but there it is . Do with it what you will . Life is what life is , if helping another out can ease some of the pressure of living , why not just doit . The out come may surprise you and change you whole perspective on yourself and the world around you . May the GOD'S THAT BE, smile down on us all , keep us safe healthy, give us courage to make a difference no matter how small . ✌️🙈🙊🙉👍
@@rheamickens3128 There are also a couple of other catfish using their daughter's photos on the zoom episodes aka pandemic episodes. Some parents should not be parents.
People who catfish others online (especially this woman who used her daughter's identity) should be charged with fraud and identity theft. Laws need to catch up to technological advances asap.
That third story doesn’t actually paint the whole picture. The cops knew almost instantly that he had killed himself, but they went along With the murder scenario just so they could secure overtime and funding. Given why he killed himself, I always found it ironic that the police investigating his death pretty much did the same thing on a lower scale individually, but much higher total.
The whole "this is the first time I've ever felt ashamed of another officer" quote was hilarious like it was supposed to be this powerful thing how rich is that
I know Someone Who Did this With Her newborn child. She sent Photo's of Her baby Just a few weeks born To Pedophiles on Different websites for money. She did weird ass shit and She found it haliruous, She First said She was just showing of her baby, But then it just got so much more disgusting as she described it. The cops know, But their unable to do anything since she isnt actually doing anything "wrong"
I can’t believe the whole “Tallhotblond” thing.. she acted all upset that he had lied about his true age and life etc and here she was doing the same thing and even kept it up longer - with his young coworker! She never even apologized to anyone :(
Let's not forget she used her own daughter's pictures and persona to carry on with it. It's all a complete mess. Just be honest online about your situation in life. Especially if you think you will ever meet in real life.
wait… “the pictures became more reveling” “jessie didn’t know her mother had taken these pictures” WHAAAT, how sick do you have to be to do this to your own daughter
I was thinking the same, or probably the mom was spying on her phone and using private pictures that she must be sending her bf, which is even fucked up
was looking for this comment. to me, that's the most disturbing part. i can't believe she didn't get charged for anything (cp, stalking, etc.). that's just sad :|
It's only pornography if it's explicitly sexually suggestive. The biggest thing she could have been charged for is Manslaughter 2. I'm no lawyer though.
Jeanie Landry you mean thanks to marinesniper. it’s not her fault he was crazy enough to go kill a man because he was jealous that he stole his high school aged online girlfriend.
@@griffenerica well its both their fault then, she knows that the 2 men are coworkers, things can easily go out of hand... you don't dangle meat in front of an angry dog.
I required the first guy from online I met IRL (when we were both teens) to take a photo of himself with a hand-written sign stating "I am not a pedo". I also talked to him and his parents over the phone. I guess it could have all been staged, theoretically, but he really was who he said he was, lol. We're still friends.
I know like these people picked the worst names ever for this. If I saw a user name Beefcake I'd literally just think it was Chris Hansen offering old perverted dudes a "seat right over there" ....
Wow a woman using her daughters photo to catfish a catfish and then a murder ensues? She should have had some sort of charges brought against her as well as Thomas. Even if it was simply conspiracy or accomplice. Something.....
I think the family should have fought to get some kind of law put in place for situations like this. As crazy as it is I’m sure this isn’t the only time something like this has happened
That’s wild the sheriff was the sheriff of my county in the last one. I was otw home from school and there were checkpoints EVERYWHERE. My parents said something was fishy cause the press was REALLY quiet after a day or two and it turns out they were right.
@@broeheemed32 Why are you mad someone benefitted from stealing from rich people? I mean I'm Christian, stealing is wrong, but prison time for stealing from the greedy? Seems cruel. Maybe if she stole from the needy.
@@godwarrior3403 He stole from a kid's program fund. Kids who were interested to join law enforcement and possibly the military. How does that qualify as "the greedy"?
While she didn’t directly steal from the fund itself, that was Charles’ doing, she knowingly used the money stolen for her own benefit. That was what got her probation.
Nobody deserves to be married to a fantasy sex addict but it seems especially cruel to find out they are also psychotic enough to murder a young man for it too.
That goes to show how small this world really is. I’m watching this from the other side of the world and here you are. Someone who knows the subject’s wife. 😱
I thought it was rather obvious especially after I heard that he was shot with his own gun. I was pretty sure he commited suicide and made it look like murder.
Agreed, I remember hearing about this case and the supposed reason for pretending to be killed in the line of duty was so that his wife would get his insurance and pension and thinking the investigation would be dropped. Those 'super' cops, as this guy was supposed to be, are often looked at with skeptical eyes by others, we had one in my area that did PR for the CHP talking about road safety for women. He turned out to have targeted and stalked women and killed at least one that we know of on his watch.
I live 3 min from Fox Lake and remember the case with Joe. They shut down my daughters school because of the “shooters on the loose”. He’s HATED here. The parades we had for him, and all the donations to his family! He’s disgusting!
This Jessy case was crazy. Catfished a catfish... Learn from this: If your relationship has more drama then a soap opera, let it go. It is not worth it. No matter how hot your partner might be.
Rushing to solve a crime where an office was the victim and not even recovering his texts and just everyone coming to his aid is actually really frustrating when you think about how hard it is for regular citizens to get help sometimes.
I know that in 2006 internet literacy wasn't nearly where it is today, but I still can't believe the guy fell for "hot blonde 18 year old volleyball player". I've fallen for that kind of thing before...but I was like 16/17 at the time. This was a 46 year old man. It was the most expected twist in history. That's really fucked up of the mom though. She used her own daughter as bait. It not only exploited her, but could have put her in danger.
Actually, most of the people that fall for such things are older people, like check dr Phil's catfish videos or something, there have literally been stories about older people giving like half a million and so on to these catfishes
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That third story is so embarrassing. I love how law enforcement has unlimited resources and effort when it comes to one of their own. But if an indigenous person or poc goes missing they’re suddenly strapped for cash and have their hands tied.
no shit sherlock . law enforcement cares more for people who matter or are innocent. there are countless homicides related to gangs in cities like chicago where you'd have to put the whole block in jail.
I have definitely got to say that all three cases are absolutely bizarre. Individuals are so disturbed besides being disgusting as well!! And also I'll never understand why individuals do the things that they do.
I live in Lake County where the last story is from, and trust me when I say A LOT cops knew what good ol joe was getting up to, people higher up the ranks also knew all about it. What joe did to the explorers program, using it for his own personal fun was and still is a damn shame!!
I don't know what's scarier. The narrative of the last story, or the fact that the police officer at the end said that he's never felt ashamed of the acts of other police officers... huh, go figures.
I’ll never forget those early internet days of being so disconnected in real life that I could only obsessively feel alive with hours chatting with ppl I’d never see. I don’t really miss that time, it was sad and lonely.
Oh man, I remember my IMVU days... Whole lot of different personas with my friend. Feel somewhat nostalgic about it too though, recently made a new user there, but it's indeed glad to know that now it's just like a relaxation thing at the end of the day (and mostly because I love the beautiful rooms and scenery there and well, random chatting is sometimes fun too), not the only world I can be...
I'm totally addicted to this channel I absolutely love it, and the best part is you don't even have to watch it you can literally just listen and the Narrator is absolutely phenomenal ❤
The 2nd story starts off by telling us that old man Jack lived in a nursing home with his wife. Later in the story we are told that he was found dead in his own home with gun shot wounds!!
She may be a twisted person, but she is 100% not responsible for the murder. There is a long history of blaming women for men's rage and it needs to stop. Just because she was lying to these men, doesn't mean she is responsible for murder. That was Thomas's decision.
I didn't realize that there were two additional stories after the first. This almost 24 minutes has caused me to rethink relationships that I have. I live in a senior building where people don't realize that they are not thinking as well as they used to and maybe are developing some sort of senility. They forget the good things and ways that I've helped them and recently got angry at the drop of a hat. I was holding them accountable for their unsensible bad behavior but I realize they may not be able to help themselves. Sometimes it's best to let things go. Things could escalate into something as ugly as we have seen in this video. They were all otherwise normal people until they weren't !! We are complicated beings and there may be no safety net if things go wrong !! Thanks for the enlightment❤🎯👍!!!
Damn at least Tomas used his own photos😭😭 But the real question....how in the hell did she get explicit photos of her daughter 😶 and why weren't red flags raised when she was taking them. Or even bigger plot twist😳 it was actually her daughter and she was just lying and protecting her😳😳
Actually knew Joe. Lot of us did. When it all came out it was, it was really twisted. Sister and some of her friends had set up a fund raiser the whole thing was just. It felt like you were watching it all happen around you in slow mo. The whole thing was just, surreal.
I bet! That would be pretty overwhelming to be mourning a persons death, someone you personally knew, and in the following months, everything you thought you knew was BS.
@@lythyboo they literally said “if she hadn’t used her daughters pics” and she wasn’t necessarily attracting pedos bc she was saying she was an adult and “dating” men who either were close in age to her persona or said they were
I was Gi joe's neighbor and in his explorer program for my whole childhood. I still cant believe he would do something like that. there were rumors too that the angle of the gunshot couldn't have came from his own hand and it was also rumored he was investigating the chief for corruption. the whole thing was a mess.
Everyone's talking about how obvious it is that talhotblonde was a catfish but I wanna point out how equally immidietely predictable it is that the cop wearing a "I jump out of planes and kill people"-shirt was an awful person
I'm from Fox Lake, Illinois and yeah, that whole story was insane and the more we all learned, the crazier it got. They had schools and businesses shutdown while the manhunt was happening. People were genuinely scared
Me too man I met one of his kids too through an Ex. They honestly believed he was innocent. It was probably one of the crazier things that ever happened in the Wisconsin/Illinois border area in the last decade.
@@heididepotter8136 I believe from the beginning of man's history one third of the human race at any given time are the fallen angels and they are the ones who live behind a mask.
i was catfished once about 15 years ago on a game site. the guy confessed after we had been talking on private chat for a few weeks (just as friends). turns out he didn't think people would talk to him if he used his real photo. everything else he talked about was true. i forgave him, about a year later, i met him. long story short, one of my closest friends all these years later. guess i got lucky!
why is it called getting catfished when your chat friend has never intended to be anything more than friends, though? There's nothing to forgive there. I had picked male avatars or nicks occasionally on gaming sites and that had to do with me enjoying my character. And one of the gamers I used to pm with said something similar to me and I was like "excuse me?!" the stuff we talked about outside the game had nothing to do with genders. We did exchange personal info, but it had nothing to do with what genitals we had or who we hooked up with.
@@korkunctheterrible4302 Because it's lying. Look, if you're roleplaying a character on a roleplay server (like imvu or secondlife) that's one thing, but to be like "Hey Mandy! It's me, Candy, your also 14yo bffl!!!!" when you're actually Chuck, 49 from Michigan that's creepy as fuck.
I met a guy online when I was 21, on a TV show forum website, he told me he was 35, he was really almost 40. We met, and long story short, he’s my husband and my sons father now haha.
I'm not surprised they couldn't charge her for the death, but surely taking "provocative" photos of her daughter without her knowledge had to be SOME kind of crime???? Right????
“this is my first time as a law enforcement officer, in my career, that i felt ashamed by the acts of another police officer” really? the first time?? none of that rampant corruption and murder of innocent suspects made you feel anything, huh?
Revisiting the past few years of videos just to make sure that I didn't fall asleep to them and I think that I did to this one cause I don't remember it. (I completely enjoy your narration and how well the stories are put together, are fluid in every way, despite the horrifying stories it's just kinda soothing). I can't be the only one!😊
Thomas has the nerve to feel betrayed by Jessie?? how can someone have zero self awareness. You expect to just catfish her and trick her into loving an old man, and just be ok with that? Brian didn’t still her from u… she didn’t want to be with you not because of ur age, but because of ur LIES. Because how could she trust someone who lied ??? And not only lied but manipulated and didn’t even admit that he was wrong and basically expected her to just be totally cool with what he was doing ** just saw the plot twist but tbh Tom didn’t know Jessie’s true identity so what I said still stands. As for Mary, the fact she did that to her own daughter is despicable… and never apologized ? We
On case #3 I can’t believe it’s been that long since that happened. It was a weird summer and when it happened we had a heat wave. The first night it happened many people stopped by dropping off food and water for the volunteers searching for evidence. That went on for at least a week or two. The area was locked down for a few days out of safety. So many people were trying to set up fundraisers. When the truth started coming out it was almost unbelievable. Then the love that was outpouring for his family started turning to anger as they found out his wife was also spending the money he embezzled and was in on it. He committed suicide to try to get his wife insurance money and his pension.
The first case reminded me of another internet related case I've heard of a long time ago and almost forgot. The case of a young boy planning his own murder over the internet by manipulating his friend. The case is named "Mark and John" since both boys were underage at the time. It would be interesting to see you cover this case, as there is a lot more going on in it. There's also a movie made after the case "u want me 2 kill him?"
I feel like there’s some kind of ironic metaphor about how Charles, a police officer who was celebrated after his death was really the criminal all along
@@ashleyloki4457 I read about it a little and it seems like you're correct in that "life" is usually 15 years and then possibly parole. BUT some sentences are life without the possibility of parole, and that means they will be incarcerated for the rest of their natural life until death. That can be appealed of course but yeah. Its interesting
I heard about that last case at work the other day! I work at a neighboring county jail and couldn’t believe what I was hearing and that it happened so close to home.
Please explore the Pittsburg, CA police officers robbing a Safeway grocery store and murdering the store manager in a desolate field in 1988. Ex- Officer's name is Eric Bergen
man the early 2000s were not good to us. i remember being addicted to it back then. i was 13 and i found chatrooms and made friends and i didn't wanna leave. i finally had friends, unlike in real life, and i stopped eating and going to school and all this shit for the longest time. im just glad i not only got over it but i didn't do anything insane like the first story in this vid. i did meet a lot of people though who could easily have been murderers. so many "kids" got too into whatever they were doing and thought they were the character they were playing. you'd talk to them and they'd snap at you if you used their real name. theres a sort of well known story, i think its called final fantasy house? its about this woman who gets sad kids from the internet to live with her and she just abuses them and uses them. she uses them as cleaning slaves in her house and work slaves to pay for her rent and other items. the person telling the story was one of the kids who was able to leave the house and go home. so many kids didn't leave because they were either too poor because this woman took all their money or they were too embaressed to go back home after making a stink about leaving in the first place. nothing like using your real daughters picture and name while online. her daughter could have been killed because of her stunt. i know it was the dawn of the internet but even then we knew not to use real names and pics and even if you use diff pics you dont use family, use some random person on yahoo search and use a diff address, a fake one you made up. the woman didn't even apologize for all of it either and i think i know why. she takes pride in the idea a man killed another man for her out of jealousy so shes not sorry for that. otherwise what kind of person doesn't apologize for all of this?! she risked her daughters life, her own life, and she got someone actually killed and yet not one "sorry" outta her. someones son was killed for no reason, other than ya know stupidity, because of her and she still did not say sorry. how would she feel if her daughter actually died from this stunt? would she be sorry then??
When I was 14, I chose the username "closet swinger". I didn't know what it meant, but I thought it sounded cool. No wonder I had so many weirdos try to chat with me. My poor parents must've been horrified. Since I didn't know what it was, I didn't try to hide it from them.
"This is my first time as an officer ashamed of another officer's actions" Based on history, that's pretty disgusting. There have ALWAYS been cops to be ashamed of.
Yeah i just got to that part (literally paused rn after that sentence) and just laughed. Of course. These assholes s-ent more resources to solve a case because one of their own died and they dont put that much effort to solve other cases. ACAB
@@valerierodger7700 what do you mean thats not what he said? That's EXACTLY what he said: "This is my first time as a law enforcement officer, in my career, that I felt ashamed by the acts of another officer." I paraphrased SLIGHTLY by taking out a couple words that were redundant, but I did not change the substance of what he said. And context doesn't matter. Any officer that says they've never been ashamed of another officer's actions is either dishonest...or horrible. I mean, that case took place in 2015. History is littered with bad officers. There have been a LOT of police officers who've acted badly. For that to be the FIRST he's ever been ashamed of...in 2015...well that doesn't say much for him.
I am from Antioch, just down the road from Fox lake where "GI Joe" lived. He was not really beloved by everyone. I know of a few bad interaction with him.
I remember I had just put my son on the school bus. When I heard gun shots down the street I went inside & seen the news about Charles... literally down the street from me...
It's ironic that Mary got angry with Tom for doing the exact thing he was doing and being near the same age, while doing it to two people at the same time. Also the fact that she used her daughter as bait while also cheating on her husband and not even offering an apology or feeling remorseful. Crazy stuff
"This is my first time as a law enforcement officer that I felt ashamed by the acts of another police officer" -the second cop to have ever existed, I assume
I actually met one of Charles' kids back in 2017. My ex at the time was friends with the kids and they went to the same highschool. I lived about 20mins from fox lake and I remember watching all of the searches and the funeral profession on the news. When I met one of his kids they still believed that he was innocent and all the media was lying. They also mentioned how their mom was probably going to jail as well. It was honestly awful to see how this devastated the kids. I don't think anyone expected it. I feel awful for them and I can't imagine having everyone you know convinced your dad was an awful person. After seeing this video I'm more sure that all the media and what my parents said was true. I honestly didn't want to believe it.
I used to talk to marinesniper on the pogo chat rooms omfg 😳
I saw a movie based on this case...it was a crazy story 😱
Your probably a 46 year old to right!
@@moobrah9640 I was 12-13 when I used to be really active in those chatrooms. That’s what makes this so much more disturbing
Another catfish lol
@@joshuagroves1192 it’s a site to play games.. I wasn’t there to find love 🤷🏼♀️
The narrator's voice is so clear that i have no problem watching without turning on the caption. Every word is Crystal clear!
I love his voice. But strangely it reminds me of the killer’s voice in scary movie 😂
I always have caption on anyway but I don't really need for these videos. I like that, but I read it still the hole time. I'm slightly hard hearing so it's a habit
So basically you understand the language that the narrator is speaking?
Nice
@Creta because english is not my mother language.
Yes, I love that!!
The mother pretending to be her daughter is the most f-up thing I have ever seen. Who does that?!? The two older adults are directly responsible for that young man’s death.
Also how did she get sexy photos of her own daughter?!
@@somewherebetweenpsychotica9224 Because sometimes parents are not of a "boomer" as their teenage kids think they are. It's a common thing for teenagers to have risque pictures of themselves and very easy for young guys to pass them around. My daughters are terrified to do so because they know that I will KNOW, within a day of them posting them. Just like it took me a few days to figure out what handle my then 13 year old had to flirt with guys on Instagram.
The real issue was the fact that she was saving those and using them in my opinion.
It is very foolish to set up your daughters for harm. Crazy woman
@@sofakingimmature Especially since she was GenX not a Baby Boomer.
@@ardensinn6004 can you imagine if those men had race to meet “tall hot blonde” but she canceled then they spot her walking on the street??
How anyone could converse with someone calling themselves “tallhotblonde”, “MarineSniper” or “beefcake” and think that person is a mature, emotionally and mentally stable adult is beyond me.
They all sound like either a catfish or an immature early teen, if not prepubescent child
Actuall, beefcake was nearly a kid. And did nothing wrong than chatting with a catfish
People are stupid. That is how.
😂
Something about an adult using a chat room is just cringey af imo
I'm glad the real Jessi cut off contact with her mother. Stealing her identity like that is wrong in so many ways, and in my mind unforgivable. Would never be able to trust her again.
This to me is mind blowing. The actions of a sociopath
What if Thomas desided to kill Jessi as well, tracked down her address and ended up killing the womans daughter, the real Jessi, not knowing she didn't have anything to do with this whole triangle her mother had created! 😱
People just don't realize what kind of consequences their actions in the internet can have!
Omg..thank god it didnt happen
Theirs a whole show on this called talhotblond
bwahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahha real talk
@@GothicConservative what’s it on
Great comment/insight. Could easily have happened.
That first story was both ironic, tragic, and insane
It's a dang O. Henry story
I'm so sorry for Brian and his family
could be straight out of a dark comedy movie..
@@Superschokokeks yes it could..
"both"
I feel so bad for the poor 18yo who was killed because he was caught in the crossfire of two manipulative adults. It’s sickening.
He was 22 yo
Some people never grow up and some young people are more mature than some of these fucked up sad grown adults.
22, but yes, it's awful. he was hot enough to meet people IRL too
The 18 year old wasn't killed. It was the 22 year old college Co worker of the Tom.
Tom didn't know that Mary was lying, so her lie shouldn't influence his sentence or guilt. In his mind, he had lied to this 18 year old girl and she moved on despite feeling conflicted. He felt so entitled to her affection that he murdered a young man. He is a terrible person, can't believe that they charged him with manslaughter when it was clearly a premeditated attack and his goal was to kill Brian.
100% agree that Mary had no culpability in the murder but I’ll just note that I had the same reaction to the manslaughter charge until I heard he got a 20 year sentence for it. If it was like a nickel or dime I would’ve been heated
Yeah. Premeditated murder. How did they come up with manslaughter? Or even second degree murder?
the reason they charged him with 2nd degree murder, it was considered an act of passion, he was manipulated into believing a lie that left him in a delirious state of mind that led to a crime of passion (even though it was still premeditated 1st degree murder, which we know), the prosecutor didn't believe they could get a conviction for 1st degree murder, given the drama and cat fishing that occurred, so they opted to charge it to 2nd degree murder. however, his lawyer then stepped in and said, so my client will plead guilty to a lesser charge of manslaughter but will still be sentenced to the maximum amount of time, saving the town and you from gone to trial, setting the case or we will see you in court. clearly the da lacked a spine and agreed. he's still serving a lengthy sentence but ultimately its not Justice. considering many murderers get off serving less than 10yrs, at least he's behind bars. although, a more fitting sentence would be life with the real woman who manipulated both of them out of boredom
Uhhhhh, he’s WHITE
It's just sad that people get away with murdering someone, and get a Manslaughter charge. My best friend was murdered in the spring because the attacker thought that my best friend called him a name, which he didn't, and got stabbed once in the heart. He never had been in a fight in his entire life. The guy got a plea deal for manslaughter.....
I miss him so much, everyone does. He was the nicest person I've ever met.
That lady was downright disgusting using her daughters picture. Nevermind the fact she could get recognized It's just crazy! People are nuts. Scary times we live in. 😳
U Kno that show on MTV, called Catfish? U know it spun off from a documentary where the host, Nev, (spelling?) actually was Catfished by an older lady using someone else's pics. I can't remember but I think it may have been her daughter too! Ironically and coincidentally, he recorded everything, from their online romance, to his road trip to meet her in person. Point is, that show blew up and is actually where the term "Catfish" came from. How can people still not be hip to this crap??? It's mind boggling
and she never apologized , not even to her own daughter! i’m glad her daughter cut off contact with her mother.
I know all of these types of things have gone on forever the only difference is the general world population is more aware due to MASS MEDIA ! I have a news paper from the late 1800s with stories in it that aside from the use of archaic words in them they are as horrible and shocking as anything today . Which should give us all pause to reflect on the state of humanity and really our private lives . To just except that this is just the way things are , to me and should be to all if us not an option ! We , I believe can change the dynamics of our own homes , neighborhood's etc. Be actually concerned about others wellbeing more then the clothes they wear or language they speak! The condition of a place that people live in can speak volumes as to their wellbeing . So if your neighbor has weeds and things that need fixing don't judge offer help to them instead . If you have something that they can use or something you no longer need or use ? Give it to them ! You don't have to sit and do nothing but stew over what's wrong with them or get angry and blow up on them ! Choose to show compassion and kindness . By some simple action the impact on all involved can be something miraculous and the ripple effect of this type of behavior is infectious . The positivity can spread in an incalculable and unimagined way .
People in your own immediate family are different from you why does it bother people so much to have people around them that are also different ? Build bridges not burn them ,build friendships not enemies , build a world united not fractured and think before you act in any way . Believe that you are making a difference with every act of kindness because YOU REALLY ARE ! Don't know where all that came from but there it is . Do with it what you will . Life is what life is , if helping another out can ease some of the pressure of living , why not just doit . The out come may surprise you and change you whole perspective on yourself and the world around you .
May the GOD'S THAT BE, smile down on us all , keep us safe healthy, give us courage to make a difference no matter how small . ✌️🙈🙊🙉👍
Dude should be trying to ----- someone over the computer. That story is all about weak gullible people, all of them.
@@rheamickens3128 There are also a couple of other catfish using their daughter's photos on the zoom episodes aka pandemic episodes. Some parents should not be parents.
Would've been a huge twist if talhotblonde was actually marinesniper's wife.
That's the twist I was hoping for lol.
Ha !
Hasn't that really happened? It didn't end in murder but they caught each other. Who knows... ???
and liked Pina coladas and getting caught in the rain
That movie is one that I would pay to see. ❤️
People who catfish others online (especially this woman who used her daughter's identity) should be charged with fraud and identity theft. Laws need to catch up to technological advances asap.
That is not a crime, if you’re dumb enough to get catfished then so be it
Thats got to be child endangerment.
@@summertimetea4594 ok but the identity theft was really a crime, specially when she used provocative photo of her own daughter
She stole her daughter's identity resulting in a death. I can't believe they couldn't find a way to charge her for something.
Inmate: What are you in for?
Mary: I lied on the internet.
Is that really a world you want to live in?
That third story doesn’t actually paint the whole picture. The cops knew almost instantly that he had killed himself, but they went along With the murder scenario just so they could secure overtime and funding. Given why he killed himself, I always found it ironic that the police investigating his death pretty much did the same thing on a lower scale individually, but much higher total.
@@valerierodger7700 How do you know that? Most cops are criminals.
The whole "this is the first time I've ever felt ashamed of another officer" quote was hilarious like it was supposed to be this powerful thing how rich is that
Wow, they milked their department through his death. Well done
Wtf, Mary sending provocative pictures of her own daughter to men online? There must be a crime somewhere in there no to mention how sick the act was.
Yea how did she take the pics?
And it’s seems like her daughter was in collage yet she pretended to be a highschooler.......... definitely some sick shit.
@@bshiv9854 she mustve stolen them while her daughter was budy or sleeping.
Not even that, she sending her daughter's underweard for his pleasure
I know Someone Who Did this With Her newborn child. She sent Photo's of Her baby Just a few weeks born To Pedophiles on Different websites for money. She did weird ass shit and She found it haliruous, She First said She was just showing of her baby, But then it just got so much more disgusting as she described it. The cops know, But their unable to do anything since she isnt actually doing anything "wrong"
I would have paid so much to see Tom’s face when the officers shown him a picture the real jessi
I was literally just thinking that exact same thing 🤔🤦🏼♀️
He had to know the truth. They all know their being lied to. The lie just feels so good.... 😆😩 so I’ve heard 😬
Hilarious. 🤣
That would be so satisfying
Catfish1: It's so weird, I feel like I can tell her anything and she just gets me...the age difference is not noticable.
Catfish2: same...
😁👍
LMAO
The entire cop story had me going, "That's a cop, he's not a good person."
Then the twist had me in the right!!!!!
I can’t believe the whole “Tallhotblond” thing.. she acted all upset that he had lied about his true age and life etc and here she was doing the same thing and even kept it up longer - with his young coworker! She never even apologized to anyone :(
Let's not forget she used her own daughter's pictures and persona to carry on with it. It's all a complete mess. Just be honest online about your situation in life. Especially if you think you will ever meet in real life.
No really, I don't get that either🤯🧐😳
Basically got away with everything. Well her daughter disowned her, but still.
wait… “the pictures became more reveling” “jessie didn’t know her mother had taken these pictures” WHAAAT, how sick do you have to be to do this to your own daughter
I was thinking the same, or probably the mom was spying on her phone and using private pictures that she must be sending her bf, which is even fucked up
Great catch and that indeed, is very troubling.
Theres no way thats not illegal. Cp? Didnt she claim to be in highschool?
was looking for this comment. to me, that's the most disturbing part. i can't believe she didn't get charged for anything (cp, stalking, etc.). that's just sad :|
It's only pornography if it's explicitly sexually suggestive. The biggest thing she could have been charged for is Manslaughter 2. I'm no lawyer though.
TallHotBlonde and BeefCake... perfect match right there!
If he was still alive. Poor boy barely grew up thanks to tall hot blonde's mom
Jeanie Landry you mean thanks to marinesniper. it’s not her fault he was crazy enough to go kill a man because he was jealous that he stole his high school aged online girlfriend.
jajaja right a perfect couple 💑🤣🤣
Facts
@@griffenerica well its both their fault then, she knows that the 2 men are coworkers, things can easily go out of hand... you don't dangle meat in front of an angry dog.
I required the first guy from online I met IRL (when we were both teens) to take a photo of himself with a hand-written sign stating "I am not a pedo". I also talked to him and his parents over the phone. I guess it could have all been staged, theoretically, but he really was who he said he was, lol. We're still friends.
You smash?
What you aimed to achive by asking for this specific phrase? really curious
Brians family should've filed a civil suit against Mary.
Yes! And her daughter should've sued her too
If you use the username tall hot blonde then it's clear your a catfish
That's exactly what I thought when I heard the username!
keywords: hot blonde or blue eyes...or back when I was in high-school "cheerleader" was all catfish names.. yahoo chat rooms and ICQ
Yeah that’s what I thought. If your hit you don’t have to say it lol
yep we know that now, but back in the early 2000s people weren’t as savvy spotting catfished! luckily we know better now
I know like these people picked the worst names ever for this. If I saw a user name Beefcake I'd literally just think it was Chris Hansen offering old perverted dudes a "seat right over there" ....
Wow a woman using her daughters photo to catfish a catfish and then a murder ensues? She should have had some sort of charges brought against her as well as Thomas. Even if it was simply conspiracy or accomplice. Something.....
I think the family should have fought to get some kind of law put in place for situations like this. As crazy as it is I’m sure this isn’t the only time something like this has happened
The Brian dude was 22? Why didn’t he wanna meet in person?
She sent pairs of her daughter's panties to the guy too. She's sick
@@PabloandHumans 🤮🤮🤮🤮 that IS DEFINITELY sick! I really don't understand it! Disgusting behavior for sure!
gross 🤮
Nooo but they could have charged her for sending provocative pictures of her OWN DAUGHTER without her consent, right???? wtf
That’s wild the sheriff was the sheriff of my county in the last one. I was otw home from school and there were checkpoints EVERYWHERE.
My parents said something was fishy cause the press was REALLY quiet after a day or two and it turns out they were right.
.....and his wife - who benefited greatly from the embezzled money - was sentenced to 2 years. Of probation. Isn't that nice for her?
@@broeheemed32 Why are you mad someone benefitted from stealing from rich people? I mean I'm Christian, stealing is wrong, but prison time for stealing from the greedy? Seems cruel. Maybe if she stole from the needy.
@@godwarrior3403 He stole from a kid's program fund. Kids who were interested to join law enforcement and possibly the military. How does that qualify as "the greedy"?
While she didn’t directly steal from the fund itself, that was Charles’ doing, she knowingly used the money stolen for her own benefit. That was what got her probation.
I used to work with Thomas Montgomery's wife. Poor lady. Super nice.
*ex wife*
Nobody deserves to be married to a fantasy sex addict but it seems especially cruel to find out they are also psychotic enough to murder a young man for it too.
That goes to show how small this world really is. I’m watching this from the other side of the world and here you are. Someone who knows the subject’s wife. 😱
Most people are being lied to in ALL. Relationships. Sadly.
Very few ppl are honest.
@@codybarry8204 found the divorceé
The detective that found out the truth is one smart man!
I thought it was rather obvious especially after I heard that he was shot with his own gun. I was pretty sure he commited suicide and made it look like murder.
Agreed, I remember hearing about this case and the supposed reason for pretending to be killed in the line of duty was so that his wife would get his insurance and pension and thinking the investigation would be dropped. Those 'super' cops, as this guy was supposed to be, are often looked at with skeptical eyes by others, we had one in my area that did PR for the CHP talking about road safety for women. He turned out to have targeted and stalked women and killed at least one that we know of on his watch.
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@@jackiemorrell2298 dont they do gunpowder tests when someone is shot with his own gun? this story is so weird
Ya, some ppl have a higher level of comense
I live 3 min from Fox Lake and remember the case with Joe. They shut down my daughters school because of the “shooters on the loose”. He’s HATED here. The parades we had for him, and all the donations to his family! He’s disgusting!
This Jessy case was crazy. Catfished a catfish... Learn from this: If your relationship has more drama then a soap opera, let it go. It is not worth it. No matter how hot your partner might be.
That's j the thing. None of them were hot 😭
Using your own daughter for online chats with men - despicable! Glad to hear her daughter cut her off. What a betrayal!!
How did she take pics that looked like she took them and wasn't posing or looking at the camera?
Did the mum steal the pics the daughter had taken?
@@leinad.sprobably
Thomas: Catfishes talhotblonde
Talhotblonde: Uno reverse card
Underrated comment 😂
lmao we need a meme of that
Couldn't they have charged her for impersonating a minor? Child endangerment?
There should be some repercussions for what she did!😡
Pretty sure the daughter wasn't a minor.
Even if she was, people "impersonate" minors all the time, ever see Chris Hansen?
What are you talking about? Nobody in this video pretended to be a minor. Child endangerment? Lay off the meth
Rushing to solve a crime where an office was the victim and not even recovering his texts and just everyone coming to his aid is actually really frustrating when you think about how hard it is for regular citizens to get help sometimes.
I know that in 2006 internet literacy wasn't nearly where it is today, but I still can't believe the guy fell for "hot blonde 18 year old volleyball player". I've fallen for that kind of thing before...but I was like 16/17 at the time. This was a 46 year old man. It was the most expected twist in history. That's really fucked up of the mom though. She used her own daughter as bait. It not only exploited her, but could have put her in danger.
I think people often know deep down it’s a catfish but want to keep up the fantasy
Man I remember aol chat rooms in 1999 when I was like 8 and even then we knew no ones was who they said they were
Actually, most of the people that fall for such things are older people, like check dr Phil's catfish videos or something, there have literally been stories about older people giving like half a million and so on to these catfishes
@@nagsterthegangster3548 yeah, I so-so-so-sooo hope that she just bought them off of a store
@@nagsterthegangster3548 xxxl underoos😂😂😂
As someone with ADHD & Autism this is one of the only channels i can focus on and understand - it doesn't overwhelm me and i can understand ☺️ - So Thanks
That's great. I love this channel
Just goes to show you that you can focus if you really want to…
@@thesun-N-moon8885 nope. You don't have it, will never know what it feels like so shut your mouth
@@gk6387 wow. That was really rude
@@DammnDeejay was it really though? That uneducated person is trying to invalidate people with adhd. People like him are the problem
18:28 “the men tried to steal her car, but she escaped by running away”... something doesn’t add up🤨
That third story is so embarrassing. I love how law enforcement has unlimited resources and effort when it comes to one of their own. But if an indigenous person or poc goes missing they’re suddenly strapped for cash and have their hands tied.
Exactly what I was thinking
That’s exactly what I was thinking too. They let nepotism and bias flood their workplace vision. It’s dangerous And cruel.
no shit sherlock . law enforcement cares more for people who matter or are innocent. there are countless homicides related to gangs in cities like chicago where you'd have to put the whole block in jail.
@@PK-lo6ws no, they don't and you can be in denial if you want to
@@egoff3769 it's how it works. as jeff said
Taxes pay for their services. Poor people don’t pay taxes
I have definitely got to say that all three cases are absolutely bizarre. Individuals are so disturbed besides being disgusting as well!! And also I'll never understand why individuals do the things that they do.
Sociopaths. Some are so hardened they can enter the psychopath realm and become part of it.
@@Mardasee I agree with that 💯
We humans are very complexed beings.
Boredom.
S G, overpopulation has no impact on the percentage of psychopaths in the world.
I live in Lake County where the last story is from, and trust me when I say A LOT cops knew what good ol joe was getting up to, people higher up the ranks also knew all about it. What joe did to the explorers program, using it for his own personal fun was and still is a damn shame!!
Ever think those who where higher up possibly killed him and staged it that way...🤷🏻♂️
@@lgarla23 That has come up from time to time, but me personally, no I don't think so.
I don't know what's scarier. The narrative of the last story, or the fact that the police officer at the end said that he's never felt ashamed of the acts of other police officers...
huh, go figures.
imagine being in your late 40s worried about an 18 year old girl you met online that you've never seen or met in real life lmfaoooo woooooooow 😂
My dad sigh
@@yepokh WHAT????
It looks like Internet is a huge new world to them (older generation) 🤔
It happens every day
@@yepokh bruh
I’ll never forget those early internet days of being so disconnected in real life that I could only obsessively feel alive with hours chatting with ppl I’d never see. I don’t really miss that time, it was sad and lonely.
Happy for you that you’re out that sad place!
Oh man, I remember my IMVU days... Whole lot of different personas with my friend. Feel somewhat nostalgic about it too though, recently made a new user there, but it's indeed glad to know that now it's just like a relaxation thing at the end of the day (and mostly because I love the beautiful rooms and scenery there and well, random chatting is sometimes fun too), not the only world I can be...
It was still fun though. :D
I'm totally addicted to this channel I absolutely love it, and the best part is you don't even have to watch it you can literally just listen and the Narrator is absolutely phenomenal ❤
The 2nd story starts off by telling us that old man Jack lived in a nursing home with his wife. Later in the story we are told that he was found dead in his own home with gun shot wounds!!
I noticed that too
Mary should of been charged! Poor kid, both Jessi And Bryan.
She may be a twisted person, but she is 100% not responsible for the murder. There is a long history of blaming women for men's rage and it needs to stop. Just because she was lying to these men, doesn't mean she is responsible for murder. That was Thomas's decision.
@@kathmandoozle you actually have a point
Absolutely! Especially since it was her underage daughter
@@kathmandoozle women blame men for literally everything
@@lemurking1550 I said what I said. There is a long history of blaming women for men's rage. Fact check me.
I didn't realize that there were two additional stories after the first. This almost 24 minutes has caused me to rethink relationships that I have. I live in a senior building where people don't realize that they are not thinking as well as they used to and maybe are developing some sort of senility. They forget the good things and ways that I've helped them and recently got angry at the drop of a hat. I was holding them accountable for their unsensible bad behavior but I realize they may not be able to help themselves. Sometimes it's best to let things go. Things could escalate into something as ugly as we have seen in this video. They were all otherwise normal people until they weren't !! We are complicated beings and there may be no safety net if things go wrong !!
Thanks for the enlightment❤🎯👍!!!
Raymond
Great comment and very wise of you, My Friend! 😃👍🏻
Wise words.
Why are you sponging off a senior home???
what does your anecdote have to do with the video? genuine question. but i guess im glad youre just learning about dementia? lol
God imagine the real Jessie’s horror when she found out her mom had somehow stolen provocative photos of her and sent them to some creep. Just awful.
Damn at least Tomas used his own photos😭😭
But the real question....how in the hell did she get explicit photos of her daughter 😶 and why weren't red flags raised when she was taking them.
Or even bigger plot twist😳 it was actually her daughter and she was just lying and protecting her😳😳
Actually knew Joe. Lot of us did. When it all came out it was, it was really twisted. Sister and some of her friends had set up a fund raiser the whole thing was just. It felt like you were watching it all happen around you in slow mo. The whole thing was just, surreal.
I feel so sorry for his family. I can't imagine what they went through.
Ya, I knew him too. I think maybe he started off with good intentions years ago but then it somehow turned into greed and him thinking he was owed
I bet! That would be pretty overwhelming to be mourning a persons death, someone you personally knew, and in the following months, everything you thought you knew was BS.
Must have been very hard you found out he was not he pretended to be.
@@marlaholmes6706 Greed and jealousy are 2 bigg monsters
If no one had died, and she hadn't used her daughter's pics, that one story would have been hilarious.
😶 she was pretending to be a high schooler in an attempt to attract pedos........ it’s still a disturbing story??? 🤢
@@lythyboo they literally said “if she hadn’t used her daughters pics” and she wasn’t necessarily attracting pedos bc she was saying she was an adult and “dating” men who either were close in age to her persona or said they were
@@Jess-dv2py yeah but the whole “I’m 18 and in highschool” is super sust. The story still has an underlying seediness rather that a “funny” tone.
@@lythyboo Except she was pretending to be 18. In what universe is that attempting to attract pedophiles?
@@rambofan334 eh? So u think it’s normal for a 40yr old to date an 18yr old in highschool??
(It’s not 😐😅)
I was Gi joe's neighbor and in his explorer program for my whole childhood. I still cant believe he would do something like that. there were rumors too that the angle of the gunshot couldn't have came from his own hand and it was also rumored he was investigating the chief for corruption. the whole thing was a mess.
That’s crazy, hate it when seemingly good people and role models turn out to be bad people
Everyone's talking about how obvious it is that talhotblonde was a catfish but I wanna point out how equally immidietely predictable it is that the cop wearing a "I jump out of planes and kill people"-shirt was an awful person
thank you i was scanning the comment section for someone to mention that shirt
I'm from Fox Lake, Illinois and yeah, that whole story was insane and the more we all learned, the crazier it got. They had schools and businesses shutdown while the manhunt was happening. People were genuinely scared
The cop guy lived like 10mins from me , I remember when that happened, crazy lol
Go Antioch!
Rlb here!
I am from fox lake and knew the cop
Grew up in LZ and was an Explorer there in HS and met him a few times when doing co-details.
Crazy story, what a nut job!!!
Such a wonderful narrative & story ☺️ I was so ready to see what was next, the narrator caught your attention from the start to finish 🙏🏽👍🏽
You’ve mastered the art of story-telling. So inticing and flawless.
I lived in that area when the Charles Gliniewicz thing happened. It was pretty bizarre when the truth came out. Thanks EWU for bringing out more info.
Me too man I met one of his kids too through an Ex. They honestly believed he was innocent. It was probably one of the crazier things that ever happened in the Wisconsin/Illinois border area in the last decade.
There are people in this world who live behind a mask.
I think more then we realise.
@@heididepotter8136 I believe from the beginning of man's history one third of the human race at any given time are the fallen angels and they are the ones who live behind a mask.
People are the deadliest creatures on earth....
We’re all guilty of wearing a mask. We just have to make sure we don’t use whatever it is we hide to harm others
So glad I found this channel! Love yall! Keep up the great work!!
I love the Ravon's voice. One of the best narrative voices I ever heard.
I feel awful for Jessie. That poor girl.
i was catfished once about 15 years ago on a game site. the guy confessed after we had been talking on private chat for a few weeks (just as friends). turns out he didn't think people would talk to him if he used his real photo. everything else he talked about was true. i forgave him, about a year later, i met him. long story short, one of my closest friends all these years later. guess i got lucky!
meant to say, i forgave him, and THEN i met him a year later
why is it called getting catfished when your chat friend has never intended to be anything more than friends, though?
There's nothing to forgive there. I had picked male avatars or nicks occasionally on gaming sites and that had to do with me enjoying my character. And one of the gamers I used to pm with said something similar to me and I was like "excuse me?!" the stuff we talked about outside the game had nothing to do with genders. We did exchange personal info, but it had nothing to do with what genitals we had or who we hooked up with.
@@korkunctheterrible4302 Because it's lying. Look, if you're roleplaying a character on a roleplay server (like imvu or secondlife) that's one thing, but to be like "Hey Mandy! It's me, Candy, your also 14yo bffl!!!!" when you're actually Chuck, 49 from Michigan that's creepy as fuck.
@@baydiac
My name is Mandy
My stripper name is
Mandy with the candy
I met a guy online when I was 21, on a TV show forum website, he told me he was 35, he was really almost 40. We met, and long story short, he’s my husband and my sons father now haha.
I dont know how many times I've listened to the story about the tallhotblonde, marinesniper and beefcake but it always gets me every time
I'm not surprised they couldn't charge her for the death, but surely taking "provocative" photos of her daughter without her knowledge had to be SOME kind of crime???? Right????
The first one is beyond insane...
“this is my first time as a law enforcement officer, in my career, that i felt ashamed by the acts of another police officer”
really? the first time?? none of that rampant corruption and murder of innocent suspects made you feel anything, huh?
Pigs will be pigs
Indeed
exactly what i was thinking lol. like really 'for the first time'??? nothing else springs to mind to make you ashamed of being a cop????
just that??? dont think so man... you should be ashamed everytime you out on that uniform... people quite rightly have ni respect for you guys anymore
This is the first time?.... yikes! I can think of atleast 100 reasons you should be ashamed of fellow officers
Revisiting the past few years of videos just to make sure that I didn't fall asleep to them and I think that I did to this one cause I don't remember it.
(I completely enjoy your narration and how well the stories are put together, are fluid in every way, despite the horrifying stories it's just kinda soothing).
I can't be the only one!😊
Thomas has the nerve to feel betrayed by Jessie?? how can someone have zero self awareness. You expect to just catfish her and trick her into loving an old man, and just be ok with that? Brian didn’t still her from u… she didn’t want to be with you not because of ur age, but because of ur LIES. Because how could she trust someone who lied ??? And not only lied but manipulated and didn’t even admit that he was wrong and basically expected her to just be totally cool with what he was doing
** just saw the plot twist but tbh Tom didn’t know Jessie’s true identity so what I said still stands.
As for Mary, the fact she did that to her own daughter is despicable… and never apologized ? We
On case #3
I can’t believe it’s been that long since that happened. It was a weird summer and when it happened we had a heat wave. The first night it happened many people stopped by dropping off food and water for the volunteers searching for evidence. That went on for at least a week or two. The area was locked down for a few days out of safety. So many people were trying to set up fundraisers. When the truth started coming out it was almost unbelievable. Then the love that was outpouring for his family started turning to anger as they found out his wife was also spending the money he embezzled and was in on it. He committed suicide to try to get his wife insurance money and his pension.
The first case reminded me of another internet related case I've heard of a long time ago and almost forgot.
The case of a young boy planning his own murder over the internet by manipulating his friend. The case is named "Mark and John" since both boys were underage at the time. It would be interesting to see you cover this case, as there is a lot more going on in it. There's also a movie made after the case "u want me 2 kill him?"
@@rabuie No it really happened I watched Kendell Rae do a story on it.
They have this case on the channel now.
Is it the one he tells him he is a spy u remember that story
@@Spidey1996whats the video called?
@@TENSHITENSAITENNOJI it was in a video with a bunch of 911 calls. I forgot the channel name.
You are my favorite true crime to watch/listen to..the BEST!
I feel like there’s some kind of ironic metaphor about how Charles, a police officer who was celebrated after his death was really the criminal all along
Double catfished lol!!!!!!
🤣
Story one, why would a court of law sentence one to only 20 years?, why?, it should be LIFE
A life sentence is 20 yrs, just FYI.
@@ashleyloki4457 I think life is 45 years. Maybe it depends on the state/country
@@saintnicholas2882 it's definitely 20 (sometimes 15) I'm pretty sure that's for all U.S states.
@@ashleyloki4457 I read about it a little and it seems like you're correct in that "life" is usually 15 years and then possibly parole. BUT some sentences are life without the possibility of parole, and that means they will be incarcerated for the rest of their natural life until death. That can be appealed of course but yeah. Its interesting
Because he’s white
Almost 11 years ago I met my bf from a fandom group on Facebook. We dating for almost 10 years now
I wonder why catfishing doesn’t count as identity theft especially when people use other peoples photos
I thought the first one sounded familiar, I never knew it was based on a real story! Yikes!
This guys voice is like smooth butter ear candy and is all I didnt know I needed this morning.. just needed to throw that out there..
First case: what a world we live in. LOL 😂
I heard about that last case at work the other day! I work at a neighboring county jail and couldn’t believe what I was hearing and that it happened so close to home.
Please explore the Pittsburg, CA police officers robbing a Safeway grocery store and murdering the store manager in a desolate field in 1988. Ex- Officer's name is Eric Bergen
I remember that, I moved there in 1993 or 1994.
@@raid3649 wow, such a small world
I thought your name said Garth Brooks lol IDK Y
Holy shit that sounds insane! Definitely looking Into that...
I lived 3 miles from the 3rd case it was crazy I remember seeing search choppers fly over my house.
I lived in tina Williamson house in woodbury🤣
man the early 2000s were not good to us. i remember being addicted to it back then. i was 13 and i found chatrooms and made friends and i didn't wanna leave. i finally had friends, unlike in real life, and i stopped eating and going to school and all this shit for the longest time. im just glad i not only got over it but i didn't do anything insane like the first story in this vid. i did meet a lot of people though who could easily have been murderers. so many "kids" got too into whatever they were doing and thought they were the character they were playing. you'd talk to them and they'd snap at you if you used their real name. theres a sort of well known story, i think its called final fantasy house? its about this woman who gets sad kids from the internet to live with her and she just abuses them and uses them. she uses them as cleaning slaves in her house and work slaves to pay for her rent and other items. the person telling the story was one of the kids who was able to leave the house and go home. so many kids didn't leave because they were either too poor because this woman took all their money or they were too embaressed to go back home after making a stink about leaving in the first place.
nothing like using your real daughters picture and name while online. her daughter could have been killed because of her stunt. i know it was the dawn of the internet but even then we knew not to use real names and pics and even if you use diff pics you dont use family, use some random person on yahoo search and use a diff address, a fake one you made up. the woman didn't even apologize for all of it either and i think i know why. she takes pride in the idea a man killed another man for her out of jealousy so shes not sorry for that. otherwise what kind of person doesn't apologize for all of this?! she risked her daughters life, her own life, and she got someone actually killed and yet not one "sorry" outta her. someones son was killed for no reason, other than ya know stupidity, because of her and she still did not say sorry. how would she feel if her daughter actually died from this stunt? would she be sorry then??
I live in foxlake. I remember when that shit went down. It was wild.
When I was 14, I chose the username "closet swinger". I didn't know what it meant, but I thought it sounded cool. No wonder I had so many weirdos try to chat with me. My poor parents must've been horrified. Since I didn't know what it was, I didn't try to hide it from them.
Oh that made me laugh!
@@sm3296 Thanks 😊
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u were 14... the weirdos were on their way anyway 😂😂
Well, glad you’re still kicking after all these years.
"This is my first time as an officer ashamed of another officer's actions"
Based on history, that's pretty disgusting. There have ALWAYS been cops to be ashamed of.
I was thinking the same.
My immediate thought and I looked through the comments to see if anyone else caught that
@WhatTheHawk91 but that's not what he said...
Yeah i just got to that part (literally paused rn after that sentence) and just laughed. Of course. These assholes s-ent more resources to solve a case because one of their own died and they dont put that much effort to solve other cases. ACAB
@@valerierodger7700 what do you mean thats not what he said? That's EXACTLY what he said:
"This is my first time as a law enforcement officer, in my career, that I felt ashamed by the acts of another officer."
I paraphrased SLIGHTLY by taking out a couple words that were redundant, but I did not change the substance of what he said.
And context doesn't matter. Any officer that says they've never been ashamed of another officer's actions is either dishonest...or horrible. I mean, that case took place in 2015. History is littered with bad officers. There have been a LOT of police officers who've acted badly. For that to be the FIRST he's ever been ashamed of...in 2015...well that doesn't say much for him.
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I am from Antioch, just down the road from Fox lake where "GI Joe" lived. He was not really beloved by everyone. I know of a few bad interaction with him.
I remember I had just put my son on the school bus. When I heard gun shots down the street I went inside & seen the news about Charles... literally down the street from me...
Who else feels like the second case is still incomplete? I feel like the husband got to know about this relationship, killed jack and framed her.
What I don't understand is how he goes from living in a nursing home with his wife to living in his own home with his own car and all.
Finding out they catfished each other is funny on so many levels 😂😂
Man, this reminds me of how creepy Yahoo Chat was back in the day.
Terrible, terrible people. Brian should have known better.
It's ironic that Mary got angry with Tom for doing the exact thing he was doing and being near the same age, while doing it to two people at the same time. Also the fact that she used her daughter as bait while also cheating on her husband and not even offering an apology or feeling remorseful. Crazy stuff
Great video. You have a good voice for narrating. Keep up the good work and I hope your making great 💴💴💴💴
Imagine killing another man cause you had jealousy over a woman you never met before.
Imagine John Lennon?
Wow! That first story... Noah get the boat!
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"This is my first time as a law enforcement officer that I felt ashamed by the acts of another police officer" -the second cop to have ever existed, I assume
I appreciate the entire EWU team for working so hard
I actually met one of Charles' kids back in 2017. My ex at the time was friends with the kids and they went to the same highschool. I lived about 20mins from fox lake and I remember watching all of the searches and the funeral profession on the news. When I met one of his kids they still believed that he was innocent and all the media was lying. They also mentioned how their mom was probably going to jail as well. It was honestly awful to see how this devastated the kids. I don't think anyone expected it. I feel awful for them and I can't imagine having everyone you know convinced your dad was an awful person. After seeing this video I'm more sure that all the media and what my parents said was true. I honestly didn't want to believe it.