You was never centered to begin with on the manual center punch. And what is that weird tool attached to the punch? Useless i would think. Just hold the punch with your hand like any and all other mechanics or fabricators and then strike it with a hammer.
Never really had an issue with center punches walking around like you do(use them almost daily). The spring loaded ones are really helpful if you don't have the room to swing a hammer though. Defiantly nice pieces.
@@RealToolReviews when I use a standard center punch, I never use a holder, place my index finger at the point so that my finger is resting on the surface while touching the punch, with practice the point won’t slip. But I will always opt first for an automatic punch, its quicker for multiple holes too.
Not sure why he would place the sheet metal to be punched on a SOFT RUBBER MAT. Still, I think I’ll order the medium punch for my shop. Update 5/19/2020: This is a WAY nicer punch than the crap I’ve been using in the past. The handle is really comfortable to use and the strength is perfect for what I need it for at work. I use this everyday and put at least 100 cycles on it per day.
For any HK or other forms of gun addicts out there, those are the same brand punches HK uses. They even sell a set of their punches online. This is the first time I've ever seen anyone mention that company before. Your channel never ceases to impress.
If you hold the centre point in your hand instead of this other gadget, the hole is just as precise as with this fancy gadget. Are you afraid you'll hit your hand with the hammer!
@Real Tool Reviews Maybe it's time to try holding the punches by hand again. I've hit my hand a ton of times in the early days, but I just shake it off and carry on like a big boy does. You find that you very quickly learn to hit the punch/chisel and not your hand. Don't be such a pansy, you're using metalworking tools ffs, not baking fairy cakes! Other than that good vid.
I bought one and it is Fantastic. Very well built. I do alot of punching of metal at work. This is way better than a hammer and cold center punch. May be overkill for those who do not need to use it frequently. I have used the other two and worn out the harbor freight Chinese version. Great video.
It veered off the mark already way before you swung the hammer. It's really difficult to held it steady while concentrating on picking the hammer up and all that so that's why they always veer off the mark.
Hum- I like the handle that was holding the centre punch, never seen one of those- maybe you could review that centre punch handle. As for the one you reviewed at 180 foot pounds - wow I'd have to jump on the end to get it to work LOL
Steve Rob I got that handle from eBay at some point....to replace one I made. They work great with all punches/cold chisels so you dont bust your hands. The 180-lbs of force model didnt quite take that much to activate (I weigh 175), but I was leaning on it pretty hard to make it pop.
I too would like to see how they do on stainless steel. The drill bits I use on stainless steel have been treated to 2100° . So drilling is not a problem.
Good review, Sir! I think i'll stick with the older method myself. There's something cathartic about pounding a chisel into metal with a big hammer that makes some days a little bit more tolerable. :-) Thank you for uploading!
I have an automatic at home. A slim one, which has the benefit of a better view compared to these mushrooms. At work I simply use a hardened steel nail. An ordinary punch is too thick, again obscuring the view from above.
Hey! Noticed that you said newton-meters instead of just newtons. Newton-meters are a measure of angular torque, not linear force. Not a big deal, but I thought I'd let you know before every other commenter throws a fit :)
TheFlamingChalupa Sweet....I learned something new! Thanks for pointing that out, I had never thought about it before.....I will definitely keep that in mind for the future :)
Correct, but I have yet to meet someone who expresses energy in netwon-meters or pound-feet instead of Joules. Newton-meters and pound-feet are used almost exclusively for torque measurements. From Wikipedia, "It is also used less commonly as a unit of work, or energy, in which case it is equivalent to the more common and standard SI unit of energy, the joule.[2]...This usage is discouraged by the SI authority, since it can lead to confusion as to whether a given quantity expressed in newton-metres is a torque or a quantity of energy."
@@MissionMochi if you need accuracy, put a speed control trigger on you rotary tool and just goose it to dimple your mark or take a 6 inch SDS bit place it on your mark and whack it with a Ball peen hammer.
Using a holder for a small center punch is kind of stupid. You are not swinging a big heavy hammer like you are going to cut of a bolt with a cold chisel or bashing a hole in concrete. Hold it with your hand resting on the work surface so you can steady it and give it a little tap to set it and then give it a bigger hit depending on what you need. Your accuracy is there. You don't need an automatic center punch to do it right unless you think you need an idiot guard/holder. Time to refine your technique. What to refine your accuracy. Use a prick punch first. They have a sharper point (ground with a longer taper).
Y he soon will need microscope-stabilization-thermal-vision-brainImplant-imagination-GPS-naviagtion-earthRotationCompensation-AllNobelPrize-consultingAI-device to proper aim for him in center that cross for just 9999999$ ..otherwise he move punch XD i stead take time to just put it in right place and press little to not move it before hit :D
That accuracy with the hammer and punch was not such a fair test. The punch slid before you even hit it.
KillSwitchNY i agree
KillSwitchNY Exactly 😉
actually to me it was not ever set to center or maybe im not seeing it well
You was never centered to begin with on the manual center punch. And what is that weird tool attached to the punch? Useless i would think. Just hold the punch with your hand like any and all other mechanics or fabricators and then strike it with a hammer.
Caddi Man that’s what it looked liked to me also
Never really had an issue with center punches walking around like you do(use them almost daily). The spring loaded ones are really helpful if you don't have the room to swing a hammer though. Defiantly nice pieces.
+jskidonenko I dont use them too often & was trying to hold them so the camera could see....I am sure that added to the movement.
@@RealToolReviews when I use a standard center punch, I never use a holder, place my index finger at the point so that my finger is resting on the surface while touching the punch, with practice the point won’t slip. But I will always opt first for an automatic punch, its quicker for multiple holes too.
Not sure why he would place the sheet metal to be punched on a SOFT RUBBER MAT.
Still, I think I’ll order the medium punch for my shop.
Update 5/19/2020: This is a WAY nicer punch than the crap I’ve been using in the past. The handle is really comfortable to use and the strength is perfect for what I need it for at work. I use this everyday and put at least 100 cycles on it per day.
how and why xD you need 100 holes?
Question.......Where is the best place to buy new tips?
For any HK or other forms of gun addicts out there, those are the same brand punches HK uses. They even sell a set of their punches online. This is the first time I've ever seen anyone mention that company before. Your channel never ceases to impress.
If you hold the centre point in your hand instead of this other gadget, the hole is just as precise as with this fancy gadget. Are you afraid you'll hit your hand with the hammer!
Absolutely yes.....I've smashed my fingers way too many times. I only hit punches or chisels with holders now unless they just won't fit.
that is exactly what i was thinking hold it true and swing true no problem.
@Real Tool Reviews Maybe it's time to try holding the punches by hand again. I've hit my hand a ton of times in the early days, but I just shake it off and carry on like a big boy does. You find that you very quickly learn to hit the punch/chisel and not your hand. Don't be such a pansy, you're using metalworking tools ffs, not baking fairy cakes! Other than that good vid.
@@RealToolReviews LOL
Who uses a holder for a puncher anyway?
Gotta love the introductory music, graphic and "Hey Everybody" 😄
BrenticusMaximus1 Hahaha :)
Oh great. I didn't need that tool until I saw this review. :)
Steed Andersen Hahaha....That is a side effect of watching these videos sometimes ;)
I bought one and it is Fantastic. Very well built. I do
alot of punching of metal at work. This is way better than a hammer and
cold center punch. May be overkill for those who do not need to use it
frequently. I have used the other two and worn out the harbor freight
Chinese version. Great video.
wow, how do you use it with metal at work?
thank you....went out and ordered the medium punch
How would they perform on stainless sheet metal?
those are cool seems like the medium is good all around
Excellent review, very comprehensive
Damn, once again - I spend money just watching this channel
I hear ya, same here
It veered off the mark already way before you swung the hammer. It's really difficult to held it steady while concentrating on picking the hammer up and all that so that's why they always veer off the mark.
I cant rub my head and jump on one foot either ;)
why not?
Hum- I like the handle that was holding the centre punch, never seen one of those- maybe you could review that centre punch handle. As for the one you reviewed at 180 foot pounds - wow I'd have to jump on the end to get it to work LOL
Steve Rob I got that handle from eBay at some point....to replace one I made. They work great with all punches/cold chisels so you dont bust your hands. The 180-lbs of force model didnt quite take that much to activate (I weigh 175), but I was leaning on it pretty hard to make it pop.
great video, thank you for making it available, I had just ordered the biggest one but wasn't sure about my choice, you clarified it very quickly.
I too would like to see how they do on stainless steel. The drill bits I use on stainless steel have been treated to 2100° . So drilling is not a problem.
Good review, Sir! I think i'll stick with the older method myself. There's something cathartic about pounding a chisel into metal with a big hammer that makes some days a little bit more tolerable. :-)
Thank you for uploading!
Robert Johnson Thanks Robert! I will agree.....beating metal with a hammer is a feeling like no other... ;) haha
Great review !!! I will be picking up the 3 Rennsteig automatic center punches for sure. Keep up the good work
Savagecrossfit Awesome! Thanks! :)
Great video. Very informative. Just one question. If I don't need the full power of the punch, I should... turn down for what?
+Greg Paine Thanks! You should just try it on a section of scrap first....or if none is available, start lower & increase until you get it right.
What’s wrong with holding the centre punch with your hand?
Thanks for the vid man! 👍👍👍👍
Hey Daniel, which one should I use for exclusively for 28, 26 and 24 gauge mild galvanized steel (sheet metal work) Medium size?
Thanks!
Typically the middle of any range is the most useful 👍
@@RealToolReviews thank you
I have an automatic at home. A slim one, which has the benefit of a better view compared to these mushrooms.
At work I simply use a hardened steel nail. An ordinary punch is too thick, again obscuring the view from above.
Hey! Noticed that you said newton-meters instead of just newtons. Newton-meters are a measure of angular torque, not linear force. Not a big deal, but I thought I'd let you know before every other commenter throws a fit :)
TheFlamingChalupa Sweet....I learned something new! Thanks for pointing that out, I had never thought about it before.....I will definitely keep that in mind for the future :)
Correct, but I have yet to meet someone who expresses energy in netwon-meters or pound-feet instead of Joules. Newton-meters and pound-feet are used almost exclusively for torque measurements.
From Wikipedia, "It is also used less commonly as a unit of work, or energy, in which case it is equivalent to the more common and standard SI unit of energy, the joule.[2]...This usage is discouraged by the SI authority, since it can lead to confusion as to whether a given quantity expressed in newton-metres is a torque or a quantity of energy."
If i had to choose one, which specific model should i choose for general purpose?
FoodOnCrack The middle sized one.
Great video! Have you compared these to Starrett's Auto Center Punches? If so, which do you prefer?
amorph1ss Thanks! I have never used the Starrett ones, but I will see if I can get some to check out. Thanks for the suggestion!
Great review. Definitely much more accurate.
Mike L. Thanks Mike!
Torque?
nice job
George S Thanks George!
What was that BS test?
DO THESE CENTERPUCHES WORK ON WOOD OR CONCRETE?
Wood - yes......concrete would mess the tips up.
RICKY RICARDO Damnn centering my SDS bits would be useful
@@MissionMochi if you need accuracy, put a speed control trigger on you rotary tool and just goose it to dimple your mark or take a 6 inch SDS bit place it on your mark and whack it with a Ball peen hammer.
Using a holder for a small center punch is kind of stupid. You are not swinging a big heavy hammer like you are going to cut of a bolt with a cold chisel or bashing a hole in concrete. Hold it with your hand resting on the work surface so you can steady it and give it a little tap to set it and then give it a bigger hit depending on what you need. Your accuracy is there. You don't need an automatic center punch to do it right unless you think you need an idiot guard/holder. Time to refine your technique. What to refine your accuracy. Use a prick punch first. They have a sharper point (ground with a longer taper).
Y he soon will need microscope-stabilization-thermal-vision-brainImplant-imagination-GPS-naviagtion-earthRotationCompensation-AllNobelPrize-consultingAI-device to proper aim for him in center that cross for just 9999999$ ..otherwise he move punch XD i stead take time to just put it in right place and press little to not move it before hit :D
Que malo para hacer un punto si se lo dejas a otro que lo haga. no tienes manos de trabajador !!! Se entiende