Interesting and informative. The only thing is on the extension of the short horizantals to the new rack i would hope you would use a LSA/110 Coupler and not a Jack and Plug solution. Then then both wall boxes could be removed, But for a fast simple solution good job.
Excelente trabajo, felicidades por su esfuerzo en cada uno de los videos que publican, muchas gracias porque aprendo algo nuevo en cada video. Saludos desde Honduras.
Was the request to relocate the network cabinet in the other room? I didn't hear the explanation why the media cabinets weren't simply replaced and save the headache of re-running a few cables. Put up a sheet of backer board over the hole and you have a stronger mount than a couple drywall anchors. I still don't recommend drywall anchors for mounting cabinets.
With the cleat and additional screw’s you should be able to do a chin up off that rack (but don’t lol) - assuming you’ve hit wood studs or used toggle bolts with steel studs
It only takes a few hours to do this if you split tasks among the team. If you start at 7am you can be done before lunch. Difficulty-wise maybe a 2? It looks worse than it is.
I disagree with creating a second patch panel and then bringing those cables to the new area. You are creating a second point of failure and the client can’t remove those cabinets because that patch panel is now sitting there basically relaying I would’ve just either rerun or created a RJ 45 female, to female connection for those few in the ceiling.
I agree with this, with the caveat that the client may not give a shit or possibly simply didn't want to pay for that extra labor and materials. Surprised to see a half-ass solution on this channel
It’s common in the field, terminations typically don’t work from the start or never fail. You are infinitely more likely to have issues with 1) port fail on switch (rare) or 2) rodents eating the cables
I can see where you're coming from. Recall that there is a high voltage outlet in the media cabinet, they aren't going to be moved any time soon. The client basically just wanted to close the doors and forget about these. I feel like loose connectors in the ceiling would have garnered some negative feedback, but I have done it before if the situation warranted it.
In a commercial setting, a _professional_ would never do that. Mid-span splices aren't allowed by any data wiring standards, or building codes. Yes, people do it all the time - technically, that's what the patch panel is doing, except that's what they're for, and you know it's there. (a random coupler in the plenum is a troubleshooting nightmare. plus, I'm 100% certain it won't be plenum rated.)
If it's there and done properly it's not an issue. The materials and techniques are proper...sometimes the customer desires and budget don't allow everything. The connections are all there, accessible nothing hidden. It will work fine
It might just be me, but I always worry that hung racks like that may fall someday. Especially considering that a UPS is still going to be added. How do others get over such worries?
100% with you on that, the way you get over it is by accepting physics. With that cleat and additional screws you could do a chin-up off that rack. Assuming he hit studs or used toggle bolts. I’m still a bit concerned on every install, but have never had one failed (knock on wood)
I had a worker miss the studs once and we did have the cabinet fall down (early days when I started), I make a lot more effort during training to get this right now. I get more worried when a general contractor or the client put the board up for me and I can't be sure if they did a good job :)
@@tciproductions Aha yep, I learned my lesson with a TV mount w/ arm. Took two years to come down, but was evident the stud was missed completely. And for sure, trust but verify... always!
Solid securing of the backer board. 1 screw can hold 50-150lbs depending on size etc. So multiple screws properly installed and added the toggles it will be just fine.
These are meant for only 5-8 wires total, a tiny switch and that's about it. Can't fit a UPS, wifi signal is reduced, and commercial modems can be pretty large or even consist of multiple devices, trying to cram it all into a 3" depth just doesn't work. For a home you wouldn't normally have a massive number of wires and the fiber interface for internet is usually pretty small so these can be in a closet and not need to use up valuable footage in a household.
Well, not used the way _they_ used them. A Uverse RG plus 12-port "smart" switch would be just fine. A UPS, 48-port (POE?) switch, adtran voice gateway, ... No. 19" rack equipment should be in a 19" rack. (not that I haven't mounted rack gear on a backboard)
In Hawaii we are all a mix of something or other. Most of my guys have Asian background, but only one has a portion that is Filipino. I'd have to ask them for a breakdown, its only like 1/4th or 1/8th of any one ethnicity usually :) Good eye.
These boxes are so stupid. It is also like when I would go to the house and yea they ran cat 5e or 6 and then they put in rj11 or 12 phone jacks. Then if I get really lucky. They never put anything in the basement. Mostly in an unfinished utility area. So that is a plus. I know it isn't perfect. But put in a 24 port patch or even those simple 12 port patch without a panel on the wall Very simple. Then I have no problem with putting a sturdy shelf below it. It is a home.
Yuk, those cables should be punched to a new patch panel, the short cables should rerun if possible or placed on a patch panel in the original location and connected to a second switch with a trunk cable. Two many points of failure using all of those connectors.
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These cleanups are so therapeutic
You're a legend man
Another great clean up 😊
Thank you! 😊
I NEED MORE CLEANUPS!!
I got one coming!
Loving these videos, I hope you keep them up. And your CCNA series.
Yesterday I've watched all three previous network rescues and today there is a already new one. :D
Interesting and informative. The only thing is on the extension of the short horizantals to the new rack i would hope you would use a LSA/110 Coupler and not a Jack and Plug solution. Then then both wall boxes could be removed, But for a fast simple solution good job.
Loooooove to see it! We need more of these right now!
Excelente trabajo, felicidades por su esfuerzo en cada uno de los videos que publican, muchas gracias porque aprendo algo nuevo en cada video. Saludos desde Honduras.
Great idea , mount the new cabinet in the kitchen area near a sink, I just love people that puts the network stuff in a crappie spot to work at.
Great video, loving your content!
I was waiting for Worf to shoot Quantum torpedoes at the cabinet
great job !!!
This series is great. You did all that before lunch!?
That's why you bring friends!
Was the request to relocate the network cabinet in the other room? I didn't hear the explanation why the media cabinets weren't simply replaced and save the headache of re-running a few cables. Put up a sheet of backer board over the hole and you have a stronger mount than a couple drywall anchors. I still don't recommend drywall anchors for mounting cabinets.
He said the customer picked the new spot for the new rack
Customer didn't like the existing stuff being over someone's desk.
I'm surprised the UPS didn't pull that little cabinet right off the wall, those things are heavy as hell.
With the cleat and additional screw’s you should be able to do a chin up off that rack (but don’t lol) - assuming you’ve hit wood studs or used toggle bolts with steel studs
How many hours did it take you to do this job?
On a scale from 1 -10 how difficult was it to do?
It only takes a few hours to do this if you split tasks among the team. If you start at 7am you can be done before lunch. Difficulty-wise maybe a 2? It looks worse than it is.
@@tciproductions Depends on the team haha
Now where is the cloaking device in this Network Rescue? 😉🖖
It's hidden in the Star Trek mat on the desk🖖
Hi Derek, is there anyway to message you? I have a question about a fiber meter. Thanks!
I saw you hit me up on linked in, shoot me a note
I disagree with creating a second patch panel and then bringing those cables to the new area. You are creating a second point of failure and the client can’t remove those cabinets because that patch panel is now sitting there basically relaying I would’ve just either rerun or created a RJ 45 female, to female connection for those few in the ceiling.
I agree with this, with the caveat that the client may not give a shit or possibly simply didn't want to pay for that extra labor and materials. Surprised to see a half-ass solution on this channel
It’s common in the field, terminations typically don’t work from the start or never fail. You are infinitely more likely to have issues with 1) port fail on switch (rare) or 2) rodents eating the cables
I can see where you're coming from. Recall that there is a high voltage outlet in the media cabinet, they aren't going to be moved any time soon. The client basically just wanted to close the doors and forget about these. I feel like loose connectors in the ceiling would have garnered some negative feedback, but I have done it before if the situation warranted it.
In a commercial setting, a _professional_ would never do that. Mid-span splices aren't allowed by any data wiring standards, or building codes. Yes, people do it all the time - technically, that's what the patch panel is doing, except that's what they're for, and you know it's there. (a random coupler in the plenum is a troubleshooting nightmare. plus, I'm 100% certain it won't be plenum rated.)
If it's there and done properly it's not an issue. The materials and techniques are proper...sometimes the customer desires and budget don't allow everything. The connections are all there, accessible nothing hidden. It will work fine
Fire stop sleeves are the s$&! 😊
It might just be me, but I always worry that hung racks like that may fall someday. Especially considering that a UPS is still going to be added. How do others get over such worries?
100% with you on that, the way you get over it is by accepting physics. With that cleat and additional screws you could do a chin-up off that rack. Assuming he hit studs or used toggle bolts.
I’m still a bit concerned on every install, but have never had one failed (knock on wood)
I had a worker miss the studs once and we did have the cabinet fall down (early days when I started), I make a lot more effort during training to get this right now. I get more worried when a general contractor or the client put the board up for me and I can't be sure if they did a good job :)
@@tciproductions Aha yep, I learned my lesson with a TV mount w/ arm. Took two years to come down, but was evident the stud was missed completely.
And for sure, trust but verify... always!
Solid securing of the backer board. 1 screw can hold 50-150lbs depending on size etc. So multiple screws properly installed and added the toggles it will be just fine.
exelent
Why are they not supposed to be used in a office setting?
These are meant for only 5-8 wires total, a tiny switch and that's about it. Can't fit a UPS, wifi signal is reduced, and commercial modems can be pretty large or even consist of multiple devices, trying to cram it all into a 3" depth just doesn't work. For a home you wouldn't normally have a massive number of wires and the fiber interface for internet is usually pretty small so these can be in a closet and not need to use up valuable footage in a household.
Well, not used the way _they_ used them. A Uverse RG plus 12-port "smart" switch would be just fine. A UPS, 48-port (POE?) switch, adtran voice gateway, ... No. 19" rack equipment should be in a 19" rack. (not that I haven't mounted rack gear on a backboard)
Where are you located?
I'm in Hawaii, downtown Honolulu.
just do it right.
Hello, Sir. Derek Are your fellow workers Filipinos? They seem Asian to me.
In Hawaii we are all a mix of something or other. Most of my guys have Asian background, but only one has a portion that is Filipino. I'd have to ask them for a breakdown, its only like 1/4th or 1/8th of any one ethnicity usually :) Good eye.
Disturbing amount of zip ties in the new cabinet 😣
I'll pass that to Kason, he did say don't film him cuz he used ties and was embarrassed :)
These boxes are so stupid. It is also like when I would go to the house and yea they ran cat 5e or 6 and then they put in rj11 or 12 phone jacks. Then if I get really lucky. They never put anything in the basement. Mostly in an unfinished utility area. So that is a plus. I know it isn't perfect. But put in a 24 port patch or even those simple 12 port patch without a panel on the wall Very simple. Then I have no problem with putting a sturdy shelf below it. It is a home.
I have taken out probably a dozen of these media cabinets at this point. I do not care for them.
@@tciproductions I get why they're installed, they seem like a nice solution. In reality they work for only the smallest of basic networks.
First view and first comment! I win!
What did I win?
Mad respect!
yeah you lost me at extending short cables with 2nd pact panel... just tie the ends to new cable and pull the short ones out... problem solved...
Yuk, those cables should be punched to a new patch panel, the short cables should rerun if possible or placed on a patch panel in the original location and connected to a second switch with a trunk cable. Two many points of failure using all of those connectors.
Looks good, but i really don't like the fact that you are using zipties , please use as much velcro as possible.