I've played radious in every total war game where its added. Main thing I like about it is being able to field multiple armies while still upgrading your provinces whenever possible
I forgot to add, didnt add it when playing warhammer, Partially because I play with some other mods which dont always work well. not missing it, ut it does sometimes feel when you lose your main army you lose the campaign, which is less so in Radious
This is the big one for me. Scarcity still exists, but instead of being +1200 gold/turn to start the game, I'm +3000 or more and I still have to make choices. But I actually have the resources to make these choices now!!
That + on background income is a single moddable value, there must be more to it. SFO has base of +4000 for major and +3000 for minor factions for example@@patrickdaly1088
My problem I had with radious is armies feel way to cheap. Even with the 80% increase submod I find there is a lot of army spamming, and personally I dont enjoy 40+ vs 40+ battles.
I used to play Radious exclusively for TWW2, never did SFO. With TWW3, i played some radious but then started playing vanilla more waiting for Radious to update. Then I gave SFO a shot. Now i just play SFO. I might give Radious a shot again after watching this.
I enjoy radious from time to time for a 30-40 turn hyper expansionist short victory campaign but once you've started wars on multiple fronts with legendary lords it gets way to bloated fast. Its basically an end game crisis battle every turn. I like the big battles but a turn might take half an hour at that point.
Good takes, I prefer Radious over base game as well but I wasn't able to actually grok the issues it still had, other than 'why are you being so dumb you silly AI.' It seems to me like the AI is still kindof your main complaint too? Even if you fixed the garrison thing, all of the AI's were still unwilling to attempt progress so they all just sat on their stacks rather than using them up. On the other hand, I think that balance does slow the game down some in a better way, in a strategic way. Yes the player may totally concentrate 2 to 4 armies at one spot if they wish, but those armies have to come from somewhere on the map. I think the positive part is that the player has the ability to choose where and how to concentrate their forces. The balance is pushed to much higher numbers, effectively one stack in vanilla is about equal to 2 or 3 stacks in Radious. I think this primarily comes from economic balance, units being about half upkeep and econ being more powerful in general, but the result is a military balance where the player *has* to bring more stacks to something that would require 1 stack in vanilla. So it kindof plays as if there are 3-4x as many partial stacks running around. You wouldn't take a 6/20 against a vanilla garrison unless you were very sure, and that's similar to a 20/20 against a level 3 radious garrison with the defense building. Probably you can win both, but rather than that 20/20 being in full rampage mode, you have to actually think strategically about whether you want to expend those lives/your time or not, and whether it's even safe to fight that battle. The AI has more stacks to defend, too. I'd like to think that having more pieces(armies) to move around gives the player more choices to make, and the AI also getting more pieces is necessary to give the player a "challenge."
I really appreciate youre trying out these mod overhauls. And I think you got a glance about what weve commented about some days ago before you started about slower campaigns. Like as I said I play with radious + AI changes + quality of life mods aaand stronger garrisons. And you might be surprised but more armies in radious with a better campaign AI are able to empire build better too. On top of that I use mods to slow down like longer battles, -50% campaign movement and so you really have to plan wisely where to atack and where to defend. If youd like I can present you my modlist and I would really appreciate you trying it out. Just be aware that this is a different experience and its meant to be. You will value youre terretory and must be more aware of youre surroundings. Atm I am playing an Imrik campaign and sure looks like I am still winning around round 60 but I know if I am not careful I might get sandwhiched still between the skavens, chaos and also ogers cause I couldnt deal with them yet
Does Radious also change the climate suitability or is that another mod? Bc I'm pretty sure mountains are Yellow and the desert is Red for Morathi usually.
Well, your playstyle and the whole playing on Legendary sounds like terrible experience - at least for me.. It's almost like speedrunning the game and optimizing the fun out of it. I like to roleplay in all my Total War games and SFO or Divide et Impera, which you probably also hate, are great for that.. Can't even have fun with vanilla given how bland and quick it is.
Exactly , I watched his SFO take, and although I do have some issues with the heroes and magic balance in SFO, the campaign game and campaign pace is brilliant. This guy Costin has basically the polar opposite taste in campaigns. Thats why I started watching this review. To see what he would say. Hate speed running in games. I like to take my time, role-playing a bit with them. DEI is an absolutely brilliant mod as well for that.
@@daithimac5785 exactly.. and it's completely fine to have different tastes and opinions.. what's not so fine is generalizing them into "facts" and speaking them with authority, which he seems to be doing a lot (probably without realizing it) - like saying "X is not fun", a completely subjective opinion, and then even requesting changes to "make it fun" and blasting CA when they go in different direction..
@TheArakan94 yeah, look maybe we're the weirdos ; ) , I like to really take my time with games and role-play a bit within the confines of the rules. Some people don't and thats fine. I use saturated empires mod to slow the game even more. I would love to just have all the SFO campaign additions and use my own magic and combat preferences though... I'm an old school total war player though, so I'm always looking for more nuanced features in their newer games. Anything to add 'more' immersive elements.
Vanilla garrisons are fine, but AI needs to play differently to properly take that into account. You very often can defeat a basic garrison with lord + 1 turn of recruitment. It's not worth bringing proper army for every minor settlement - just hire new one in closest position.
Guys you ,what using radious you like thaat range doing dmg slow? I liked more vanila where shots hit hard. Radious seems like focus only on meele wich is sad i dont like looking on range unit to shoot 2 mins into unit ... I like radious campaign changes but not battle can I change that ?
I like radious, but what i dont like is range units dont do damage... Every unit will come close cuz everyone got lots of hp. Its sad campaign with mod is great but i dont like battle change where they make range obsolete, heroes unkillable
I agree, I do really, REALLY like the lord/faction/mechanic changes of SFO but the changes to campaign pace really hit hard especially with TK for example. That being said I regard +80% upkeep as a must include to stop things from going crazy. I wish we could get the good SFO bits separately since that's not exactly what SFO lite offers.
Omegalul at the SFO fanboys unable to keep it in their pants when someone else enjoys something that isnt SFO. "You play vanilla or radious? Oh then you clearly are an inferior being. Oh I refuse to touch the base game without SFO!!!!!" The contrast between SFO and Radious' communities is astounding. It feels like the SFO community devolved into a reddit offshoot where they decide to judge everyone and everything. Meanwhile everyone in vanilla or radious doesn't care about their mode because they are busy having fun.
they probably take their attidue adjustment from their overlords at sfo. because i can see very distinct similarities between how mod authors act and these fanboys.
@@Costin_Gaming I would like to play Radious but with army size of vanilla. there are 2 submods for increased upcome. either 80% or 40%. What do you recommend ?
What do you mean? What don't you like about completely destroying the balance of the game by adding unloreful random units to fill any possible gap and weakness a faction might have?
I've played radious in every total war game where its added. Main thing I like about it is being able to field multiple armies while still upgrading your provinces whenever possible
I forgot to add, didnt add it when playing warhammer, Partially because I play with some other mods which dont always work well.
not missing it, ut it does sometimes feel when you lose your main army you lose the campaign, which is less so in Radious
This is the big one for me. Scarcity still exists, but instead of being +1200 gold/turn to start the game, I'm +3000 or more and I still have to make choices. But I actually have the resources to make these choices now!!
That + on background income is a single moddable value, there must be more to it. SFO has base of +4000 for major and +3000 for minor factions for example@@patrickdaly1088
My problem I had with radious is armies feel way to cheap. Even with the 80% increase submod I find there is a lot of army spamming, and personally I dont enjoy 40+ vs 40+ battles.
I used to play Radious exclusively for TWW2, never did SFO. With TWW3, i played some radious but then started playing vanilla more waiting for Radious to update. Then I gave SFO a shot. Now i just play SFO. I might give Radious a shot again after watching this.
I enjoy radious from time to time for a 30-40 turn hyper expansionist short victory campaign but once you've started wars on multiple fronts with legendary lords it gets way to bloated fast. Its basically an end game crisis battle every turn. I like the big battles but a turn might take half an hour at that point.
Big positive point for Radious is he doesnt hold his updates hostage for a month behind patreon.
Good to hear some likes for once
just a small correction. SFO has more subscribers according to steam workshop than Radious
Year but sfo is bad
and sfo fans are liars too
i have sfo subscribed but never use it. im just too lazy to unsubscribe
I think he was talking about across all total war games. including the historical titles that offer this mod.
Good takes, I prefer Radious over base game as well but I wasn't able to actually grok the issues it still had, other than 'why are you being so dumb you silly AI.' It seems to me like the AI is still kindof your main complaint too? Even if you fixed the garrison thing, all of the AI's were still unwilling to attempt progress so they all just sat on their stacks rather than using them up. On the other hand, I think that balance does slow the game down some in a better way, in a strategic way. Yes the player may totally concentrate 2 to 4 armies at one spot if they wish, but those armies have to come from somewhere on the map. I think the positive part is that the player has the ability to choose where and how to concentrate their forces. The balance is pushed to much higher numbers, effectively one stack in vanilla is about equal to 2 or 3 stacks in Radious. I think this primarily comes from economic balance, units being about half upkeep and econ being more powerful in general, but the result is a military balance where the player *has* to bring more stacks to something that would require 1 stack in vanilla.
So it kindof plays as if there are 3-4x as many partial stacks running around. You wouldn't take a 6/20 against a vanilla garrison unless you were very sure, and that's similar to a 20/20 against a level 3 radious garrison with the defense building. Probably you can win both, but rather than that 20/20 being in full rampage mode, you have to actually think strategically about whether you want to expend those lives/your time or not, and whether it's even safe to fight that battle. The AI has more stacks to defend, too. I'd like to think that having more pieces(armies) to move around gives the player more choices to make, and the AI also getting more pieces is necessary to give the player a "challenge."
No mods can change AI 😢
I really appreciate youre trying out these mod overhauls. And I think you got a glance about what weve commented about some days ago before you started about slower campaigns. Like as I said I play with radious + AI changes + quality of life mods aaand stronger garrisons. And you might be surprised but more armies in radious with a better campaign AI are able to empire build better too. On top of that I use mods to slow down like longer battles, -50% campaign movement and so you really have to plan wisely where to atack and where to defend. If youd like I can present you my modlist and I would really appreciate you trying it out. Just be aware that this is a different experience and its meant to be. You will value youre terretory and must be more aware of youre surroundings. Atm I am playing an Imrik campaign and sure looks like I am still winning around round 60 but I know if I am not careful I might get sandwhiched still between the skavens, chaos and also ogers cause I couldnt deal with them yet
Let’s see it
Does anyone know what mod he uses to make his game look so crisp? Something to do with saturation?
I noticed that as well
So you like bloat is that it?
Does Radious also change the climate suitability or is that another mod? Bc I'm pretty sure mountains are Yellow and the desert is Red for Morathi usually.
Yes it does.
Is a shame dont have a custom setting page like SFO that's my only complain
Well, your playstyle and the whole playing on Legendary sounds like terrible experience - at least for me.. It's almost like speedrunning the game and optimizing the fun out of it. I like to roleplay in all my Total War games and SFO or Divide et Impera, which you probably also hate, are great for that.. Can't even have fun with vanilla given how bland and quick it is.
Exactly , I watched his SFO take, and although I do have some issues with the heroes and magic balance in SFO, the campaign game and campaign pace is brilliant. This guy Costin has basically the polar opposite taste in campaigns. Thats why I started watching this review. To see what he would say. Hate speed running in games. I like to take my time, role-playing a bit with them. DEI is an absolutely brilliant mod as well for that.
@@daithimac5785 exactly.. and it's completely fine to have different tastes and opinions.. what's not so fine is generalizing them into "facts" and speaking them with authority, which he seems to be doing a lot (probably without realizing it) - like saying "X is not fun", a completely subjective opinion, and then even requesting changes to "make it fun" and blasting CA when they go in different direction..
@TheArakan94 yeah, look maybe we're the weirdos ; ) , I like to really take my time with games and role-play a bit within the confines of the rules. Some people don't and thats fine. I use saturated empires mod to slow the game even more. I would love to just have all the SFO campaign additions and use my own magic and combat preferences though... I'm an old school total war player though, so I'm always looking for more nuanced features in their newer games. Anything to add 'more' immersive elements.
Vanilla garrisons are fine, but AI needs to play differently to properly take that into account. You very often can defeat a basic garrison with lord + 1 turn of recruitment. It's not worth bringing proper army for every minor settlement - just hire new one in closest position.
Are you planning to check out any other overhauls/rebalances than SFO and Radious?
No mods better than radious
@@dietlubannuoc fanboy
@@Toni-xz4xn year , sfo fan boys said anyone use radious mod are animal 😡
Guys you ,what using radious you like thaat range doing dmg slow? I liked more vanila where shots hit hard. Radious seems like focus only on meele wich is sad i dont like looking on range unit to shoot 2 mins into unit ... I like radious campaign changes but not battle can I change that ?
I love Radious! much more units, fighting is much better and more!
I like radious, but what i dont like is range units dont do damage... Every unit will come close cuz everyone got lots of hp. Its sad campaign with mod is great but i dont like battle change where they make range obsolete, heroes unkillable
Has radious evolved since the previous 2 games? Back then it was gratitous schlock.
I agree, I do really, REALLY like the lord/faction/mechanic changes of SFO but the changes to campaign pace really hit hard especially with TK for example. That being said I regard +80% upkeep as a must include to stop things from going crazy. I wish we could get the good SFO bits separately since that's not exactly what SFO lite offers.
Omegalul at the SFO fanboys unable to keep it in their pants when someone else enjoys something that isnt SFO. "You play vanilla or radious? Oh then you clearly are an inferior being. Oh I refuse to touch the base game without SFO!!!!!"
The contrast between SFO and Radious' communities is astounding. It feels like the SFO community devolved into a reddit offshoot where they decide to judge everyone and everything.
Meanwhile everyone in vanilla or radious doesn't care about their mode because they are busy having fun.
they probably take their attidue adjustment from their overlords at sfo. because i can see very distinct similarities between how mod authors act and these fanboys.
cry more newbie
We play almost strictly Radious now. Nkari's Radious start is so much better
totally agree with everything you said👍
Well done video good Sir! Thank you for the feedback.
40 vs 40 stutter battles galore
this mode is extremly stupid. even minor factions have 10 armies. game is overbloated.
You can increase upkeep with submods.
@@Costin_Gaming I would like to play Radious but with army size of vanilla. there are 2 submods for increased upcome. either 80% or 40%. What do you recommend ?
SFO > Radious
So say the SFO fanboys.
@@Costin_Gaming
You say "fanboys" I say "connoisseurs"
SFO is constantly outdated
@@asvia429 sfo is ass
Just don't start a comment war 😅
eh no thanks, I'd still take vanilla or SFO over this mess
What do you mean? What don't you like about completely destroying the balance of the game by adding unloreful random units to fill any possible gap and weakness a faction might have?
@@fedyx1544 a sfo liar 😊
@@dietlubannuoc I don't use overhauls
@@fedyx1544 so don't write sfo fan liar about radious
@@dietlubannuoc No I won't stop clowning the objectively stupid parts of radious. Don't like it, then make me stop