**Outdated: The ownership of some settlements (Plesk) have changed so you cannot follow this guide step-by-step anymore although you can still use these types of shenanigans in different situations as all the mechanics still work the same way - so I hope you guys still find this interesting.
Legend tried to do no defeat campaign. Going all in on this would not work for that - confederations open up vulnerable flanks that can be hit at any moment.
Yeah if you are going for a no defeat then you want to be a lot more careful and do the right deals at the right times, don't just confed everything as fast as possible. Also remeber not to drain your allies cash if you are not planning to betray or confed them! (You CA drain cash from the minor factions, then give it to an allied Legendary Lord faction to pump them up though!)
What an awesome video. Further enforcing kislev as my favourite faction. I kinda forget about trading settlements, and using it to create barriers should be used way more
Thanks for the guide. Seems really good for experienced and pro players but not so much for normal/chill players who just want to kill rats, demons, and norsca.
Great guide. I like region trading as a mechanic for sorting out settlements but too many trading shenagins tends to irk me for some reason. Must be the Dawi bloodline
This is such a diplomatic power play even the greatest statesmen of the Empire and Elves would appreciate! I found myself doing something similar with Kairos all the way south, who has even more options via Changing of Ways. Would love if you can make a similar guide there, cos I heard many people struggling with that base faction
Overall a great guide and there were some differences in my campaign as you've said, but it still worked pretty flawlessly. One weird thing however, is that the rebellion at Igerov never spawned for me, I never swapped Igerov itself, though I did every other settlement, somehow though, the control level reset to 0, not sure when(maybe when I traded Vitevo? not sure), so that was strange.
@@MercytheMad Perhaps I messed something up and traded a bit too early then? Not a big deal either way, just a bit less exp for Katarin I guess. Good work on the guide and I certainly hope for more.
Hiya Mercy! Great guide! One thing that I do seem to be running into is Throt consistently taking Fort Ostrosk at the end of turn 2 meaning I can't sell it to the Ropsmann Clan when I confederate the Enclave, when running this exact strategy to the letter it seems to be a reset/save scum moment, and I'm looking for a reliable solution beyond sitting behind many loading screen. Any thoughts?
Are there any tricks like this for the Golden Order (Or other empire factions)? Only strat I find successful for them is to rush Vlad, but the battle is always super sketchy just because of how quickly Vlad levels beating templehof. Also great video, love this type of content
If you wanted to make friends with Vlad then Region trading would be the way to do it, but probably better to take him out before he comes for you. I usually try to move to Drakenhof and take that first on the same turn as you declare war while his main army is elsewhere to get a bit of a surprise advantage and get a foothold.
@@MercytheMad yeah its a shame you can't confederate elector counts outside of the imperial authority system, but I will try the drakenhof strategy. Also apparently there is a way to farm Imperial authority through trading settlements, do you have a video on it / know how to do it? thanks again for the video
im curious how were you able to confederate with the 2nd kislev faction cause isnt it once you confederate with someone you get a cool down of 5 turns before you can confederate again
I don't think Kislev has had that for a while, I confederated a bunch of factions with Boris a few weeks ago and there was no penalty. Not sure how long it has been like that, I don't play Kislev much.
@MercytheMad hmm I know if you confederate with the race system that Konstaltyn and Katerin has (sorry if I misspelled their names I'm terrible with names) you get the cool down maybe we just have to test it out and see if kislev has it or not
Empire is a bit special, but you can sell regions to other Empire factions and then force them to return them to the original owner to pump fealty and imperial authority.
I wasnt gonna play Kislev again but these guides are just fascinating and I definitely feel like like playing around with the conept. Incredible work! Thank you!!
Yeah the Ogres will also hate you, but I would usually kill the Ogres and Drycha immediately after Azhag. If you don't want to fight drycha immediately for some reason you can trade the southern settlements to Kostaltyn and make him deal with her for a while.
@@MercytheMad broken like too much pain in the ass. you have to take care for to many enemies. i know i know its supposed to be like that. but the campaign is unplayable. you have to beat norsca starting enemy faction. then just push the hills to eleminate azhag. the skaven clan is a hhuge pain in the ass because he rushing the whole region. kostaltyn and the other 2 minor kislev faction dies within 10 rounds. your are alone against at least 2 factions. till the chaos faction arrives then the campaign its done for all. its not fun and not possible to hold and defend the kislev region. every friend just crumbles and you getting attaccked from everyone and every corner
@@keipfar I wasn't attacking him. I watch his videos from time to time. I'm a fan. I like to operate in middle cheese ground where I cheese certain things and not others, but him and legend operate on creating perfect runs. For example, I auto resolve a lot more battles even at cost of my campaign if I find the battle boring. At least that's what I used to do, nowadays I won't even play the game probably for a long time cause it's boring for me now. I stopped right after release of the last dlc. I put 5k hours into wh2 and 3 so, it's probably better to rest a bit.
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**Outdated: The ownership of some settlements (Plesk) have changed so you cannot follow this guide step-by-step anymore although you can still use these types of shenanigans in different situations as all the mechanics still work the same way - so I hope you guys still find this interesting.
*Legendoftotalwar Guide* - Instantly demolish barracks at the start of turn one
*Mercythemad Guide* - Build all the barracks
Legend tried to do no defeat campaign.
Going all in on this would not work for that - confederations open up vulnerable flanks that can be hit at any moment.
Yeah if you are going for a no defeat then you want to be a lot more careful and do the right deals at the right times, don't just confed everything as fast as possible. Also remeber not to drain your allies cash if you are not planning to betray or confed them! (You CA drain cash from the minor factions, then give it to an allied Legendary Lord faction to pump them up though!)
I just mean in general, every time Legend does a guide his first step is demolishing barracks.
For science! Great video/ strategy
I've been boosting my economy by siding in wars for the first 10 turns. This is brilliance and extra cheesy -- love it. Thanks m8
A wonderful tactic is this! ^ keep pushing these good strategic video's
Agreed!
Absolute genius shenanigans.
CA would patch this if they could figure it out.... said no one ever.
What an awesome video. Further enforcing kislev as my favourite faction.
I kinda forget about trading settlements, and using it to create barriers should be used way more
Used your guide today and had a blast. Hope to see more videos like these.
Great info mate! Loved Katarin's start before but this hostile takeover shit is next level
I love your guides a lot! They really help me with my campaigns. Looking forward for more
very informative and very thorough! great video!
Thanks for the guide. Seems really good for experienced and pro players but not so much for normal/chill players who just want to kill rats, demons, and norsca.
Yeah maybe your right, sorry if it wasn't too helpful!
Rather informative video of a interesting start for kislev
Great guide. I like region trading as a mechanic for sorting out settlements but too many trading shenagins tends to irk me for some reason. Must be the Dawi bloodline
This is such a diplomatic power play even the greatest statesmen of the Empire and Elves would appreciate! I found myself doing something similar with Kairos all the way south, who has even more options via Changing of Ways. Would love if you can make a similar guide there, cos I heard many people struggling with that base faction
Yeah good call, you can do a lot of cheese with Kairos for sure.
@@MercytheMadMore Kairos cheese!
It's funny of you to think the other kislevite nations are alive in turn 2 on Legendary
That's a lot of cheese per seconds 🧀
It seems they changed it so you can no longer settlement trade with the other kislevs factions due to them changing cities.
Overall a great guide and there were some differences in my campaign as you've said, but it still worked pretty flawlessly. One weird thing however, is that the rebellion at Igerov never spawned for me, I never swapped Igerov itself, though I did every other settlement, somehow though, the control level reset to 0, not sure when(maybe when I traded Vitevo? not sure), so that was strange.
Strange. Normally that would only happen if you traded away all the settlements in the province before you actually took igerov.
@@MercytheMad Perhaps I messed something up and traded a bit too early then? Not a big deal either way, just a bit less exp for Katarin I guess. Good work on the guide and I certainly hope for more.
Im gonna grow a tumor trying to do all this using mental memory.
This feels like that rice trick with Cao Cao in 3K
Great stuff dude thanks
Hiya Mercy! Great guide! One thing that I do seem to be running into is Throt consistently taking Fort Ostrosk at the end of turn 2 meaning I can't sell it to the Ropsmann Clan when I confederate the Enclave, when running this exact strategy to the letter it seems to be a reset/save scum moment, and I'm looking for a reliable solution beyond sitting behind many loading screen. Any thoughts?
Can you try trading for it on turn1?
This is awesome!
Are there any tricks like this for the Golden Order (Or other empire factions)? Only strat I find successful for them is to rush Vlad, but the battle is always super sketchy just because of how quickly Vlad levels beating templehof. Also great video, love this type of content
If you wanted to make friends with Vlad then Region trading would be the way to do it, but probably better to take him out before he comes for you. I usually try to move to Drakenhof and take that first on the same turn as you declare war while his main army is elsewhere to get a bit of a surprise advantage and get a foothold.
@@MercytheMad yeah its a shame you can't confederate elector counts outside of the imperial authority system, but I will try the drakenhof strategy. Also apparently there is a way to farm Imperial authority through trading settlements, do you have a video on it / know how to do it? thanks again for the video
@@vrrdragon Yeah I think this is what you are looking for. th-cam.com/video/iHfnTu7yh2A/w-d-xo.html
@@MercytheMad Yep! perfect thanks!
good science
Awesome!
No confed cooldown?
In this video, the trade regions does it need to be border connected to each other to trade with a faction?
yes
im curious how were you able to confederate with the 2nd kislev faction cause isnt it once you confederate with someone you get a cool down of 5 turns before you can confederate again
I don't think Kislev has had that for a while, I confederated a bunch of factions with Boris a few weeks ago and there was no penalty. Not sure how long it has been like that, I don't play Kislev much.
@MercytheMad hmm I know if you confederate with the race system that Konstaltyn and Katerin has (sorry if I misspelled their names I'm terrible with names) you get the cool down maybe we just have to test it out and see if kislev has it or not
Does this strat work for the empire, and if it does which factions to try to confederate.
Empire is a bit special, but you can sell regions to other Empire factions and then force them to return them to the original owner to pump fealty and imperial authority.
Why dont you get the Confederation Penalty?
This would make it impossible to confederate someone for 5 turns.
Am i missing out something?
Currently the Confederation penalty appears to be broken and isn't actually applying the inability to confederate it seems.
Sadly this doesn't work anymore. CA changed it and Druzhina Enclave doesn't own Plesk anymore...
I wasnt gonna play Kislev again but these guides are just fascinating and I definitely feel like like playing around with the conept.
Incredible work! Thank you!!
don't expect hype dude
Im back Mercy. But this time Im sorry. I now only use 2d portraits as they really are better than 3d.
Glad you came around! :)
BIG PROBLEM WITH THIS STRAT. DRYCHA WILL HATE YOUR GUTS FOR ALL THESE GIFTS.
Yeah the Ogres will also hate you, but I would usually kill the Ogres and Drycha immediately after Azhag. If you don't want to fight drycha immediately for some reason you can trade the southern settlements to Kostaltyn and make him deal with her for a while.
Ya, ill do that. Let kostalyn hold the north and I'll get rid of vlad and festus
I did it in 4 😎
Nice!
So the campaign is still so broken that you have to use cheese.
How is it broken? I don't play Kislev much.
@@MercytheMad broken like too much pain in the ass. you have to take care for to many enemies. i know i know its supposed to be like that. but the campaign is unplayable. you have to beat norsca starting enemy faction. then just push the hills to eleminate azhag. the skaven clan is a hhuge pain in the ass because he rushing the whole region. kostaltyn and the other 2 minor kislev faction dies within 10 rounds. your are alone against at least 2 factions. till the chaos faction arrives then the campaign its done for all. its not fun and not possible to hold and defend the kislev region. every friend just crumbles and you getting attaccked from everyone and every corner
@@ludba82 Ah OK, makes sense. thanks for explaining.
Exciting.. exploit ai stupidity and money glitch /yawn
diplomacy is too cheesy for me. I do like a bit of challenge. I play on sfo but game is still too easy anyway.
You are watching a channel of a guy who is trying (or is not afraid) to break the game. What sfo has to do with anything?
@@keipfar I wasn't attacking him. I watch his videos from time to time. I'm a fan.
I like to operate in middle cheese ground where I cheese certain things and not others, but him and legend operate on creating perfect runs.
For example, I auto resolve a lot more battles even at cost of my campaign if I find the battle boring.
At least that's what I used to do, nowadays I won't even play the game probably for a long time cause it's boring for me now. I stopped right after release of the last dlc.
I put 5k hours into wh2 and 3 so, it's probably better to rest a bit.
Isn't sfo making the game easier?
@@Tallborn5for me SFO make it more boring to play
There are so many good games out there nowadays, rest and refresh and come back later once that itch to play again starts coming back!@@aminerkin9844