Hi, thanks for your video. Beside other topics it helped me to make my buying decision for the ePropulsion Navy 6.0 EVO. Your boat has a similar weight as mine. So it's interesting to me whether you use the high pitch or low pitch propeller and what you think is better for your boat. Thx!
Hi Jörg, Without a doubt, the high pitch propeller is the best choice for my boat. Because of the high torque of the motor, you never run into any problems while trolling at low rpm’s… I keep my low pitch propeller on board as a spare. I’m guessing the Navy’s still come with both the low- and high pitch included. Good luck with your boat and thanks for your comment!
Hi, Congrats on the Spirit! And thanks. 😊🙏🏻 What I found is a company called ’Tenten Boats’ and I believe they are Swiss. However, I also believe they don’t exist anymore… The model I have is a ‘Bora hardtop’ and you can find one or two other videos if you search online.
Thank You for nice video and info, is the use of non-original batteries without any issues? Original e-propulsion batteries provide battery management and communication between battery, remote control and engine. Are there some drawbacks for not using e-propulsion batteries?
Hi Michal, Thanks for your nice comment and regarding your question I can explain the following; My motor runs flawlessly on AGM deep cycle batteries! I cannot find any issues performance wise, as it runs on maximum power (6kW) without any problem. The only drawback I have is the battery management on the remote. It calculates and displays the capacity using just the battery voltage and it does that quite inaccurately. Which at times can leave you with severe range anxiety… 😉 I am now considering a separate BMS (like the Victron BMV-700), which are not too expensive and will solve this problem. Otherwise the combination of Navy 6, lead-acid batteries and remote works just fine!
hi mathijs, have you a solution for the recuperation without the original epropulsion batteries?.. i contact the german dealer for that question, no answer possible....have you a solution or idea for recuperation my lfp(selfbuild) or your leadacid?
Hello Mike, You raise a very valid and interesting question, but unfortunately I have no idea… Though I have some knowledge of electronics and battery power, I do not know precisely what lies beneath the smooth surface of the outboard engine and controller. The software and hardware used by ePropulsion are currently not able to regenerate third-party batteries and only in-depth knowledge of their systems could shed some light on the possibilities. I do not have this… 🤷🏻♂️
@@mathijsdevries728 i told epropulsion that i think the bms of the/my lfp is enough for saving the batterie...i think, epropulsion like to sell own batteries, but to expensive and just the new e-series are lfp´s..... i have selfbuild 4pcs 5kwh lfp´s and impossible to load over regen.
Hi Eric, The total costs depend a great deal on where you are located. My motor costs about €3.150,-, including the remote and two propellors (high pitch and low pitch). But you can always find your local dealer online and see what deal they have for you. The battery-pack I use (AGM deep cycle, 48V, 160Ah) cost about €1.600,-, including a suitable (20Ah) AGM-charger and all the power-cables/connector between the batteries and the motor. But also; these prices may differ greatly, depending on availability and where you live. The charging-process is very simple. I disconnect the (Anderson)connector from the batteries to the motor and plug it into the charger. It uses a normal domestic outlet (220V in my case) and charges with 20Ah, until full in just a few hours. Which is of course depending on how much you drained your batteries. Please let me know if there’s anything else you would like to ask.
Thanks for the video. Consider switching your battery bank to LFP for more useable capacity, more charge/discharge cycles and less weight. Downside is higher cost but the costs have dropped considerably over the last several years. I'm may upgrade my 24V trolling motor powered Sea Lance catamaran to either the Navy 3.0 or the Navy 6.0 in the future. See Sea Lance at TH-cam channel gulfowlvideo.
Hi Roy, thanks for your comment! Your remark on LFP is very true and I did consider those but, as you rightfully mention, the cost was a deciding factor. My supplier was also able to make me a good deal on AGM deep cycle batteries and charger, so I therefor got those. I know LFP is by far be the best option, especially since my boat (and yours) is quite light. but it would have cost me almost three times as much, so there you go… I even considered fabricating my own LFP battery pack for a while, but decided not to. Too many unknown variables for my almost non-existing expertise. But who knows what will happen in the future? I wish you good luck with your Sea Lance and your choice of engine. 👍🏻
No, I’m not joking. Why should I and why is it funny? With my previous 15 hp petrol outboard I could reach just about 20 km/h. With the increased weight and an equivalent of 10 hp, I now come up to about 12 km/h. If I wanted a go-fast boat I could en should have made different choices to begin with, starting with a different type of boat. As my hull-speed lies around 8 km/h, I think 12 km/h is not even that bad… To take the boat to plane, I would now probably need the equivalent of 20 hp but I decided otherwise.
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Hi, thanks for your video. Beside other topics it helped me to make my buying decision for the ePropulsion Navy 6.0 EVO.
Your boat has a similar weight as mine. So it's interesting to me whether you use the high pitch or low pitch propeller and what you think is better for your boat. Thx!
Hi Jörg,
Without a doubt, the high pitch propeller is the best choice for my boat. Because of the high torque of the motor, you never run into any problems while trolling at low rpm’s…
I keep my low pitch propeller on board as a spare. I’m guessing the Navy’s still come with both the low- and high pitch included.
Good luck with your boat and thanks for your comment!
@@mathijsdevries728: Thx for your prompt reply. Cheers Joerg
Can you use your own batteries ? I´ve been told only epropultion batteries can be used.
No problem to use your own batteries. I did so and its working flawlessly.
Hi. Just got the Spirit 1.0 plus ..nice boat. Who makes that boat?
Hi,
Congrats on the Spirit! And thanks. 😊🙏🏻
What I found is a company called ’Tenten Boats’ and I believe they are Swiss. However, I also believe they don’t exist anymore…
The model I have is a ‘Bora hardtop’ and you can find one or two other videos if you search online.
Thank You for nice video and info, is the use of non-original batteries without any issues? Original e-propulsion batteries provide battery management and communication between battery, remote control and engine. Are there some drawbacks for not using e-propulsion batteries?
Hi Michal,
Thanks for your nice comment and regarding your question I can explain the following;
My motor runs flawlessly on AGM deep cycle batteries! I cannot find any issues performance wise, as it runs on maximum power (6kW) without any problem. The only drawback I have is the battery management on the remote. It calculates and displays the capacity using just the battery voltage and it does that quite inaccurately. Which at times can leave you with severe range anxiety… 😉
I am now considering a separate BMS (like the Victron BMV-700), which are not too expensive and will solve this problem.
Otherwise the combination of Navy 6, lead-acid batteries and remote works just fine!
hi mathijs, have you a solution for the recuperation without the original epropulsion batteries?.. i contact the german dealer for that question, no answer possible....have you a solution or idea for recuperation my lfp(selfbuild) or your leadacid?
Hello Mike,
You raise a very valid and interesting question, but unfortunately I have no idea… Though I have some knowledge of electronics and battery power, I do not know precisely what lies beneath the smooth surface of the outboard engine and controller. The software and hardware used by ePropulsion are currently not able to regenerate third-party batteries and only in-depth knowledge of their systems could shed some light on the possibilities. I do not have this… 🤷🏻♂️
@@mathijsdevries728 i told epropulsion that i think the bms of the/my lfp is enough for saving the batterie...i think, epropulsion like to sell own batteries, but to expensive and just the new e-series are lfp´s..... i have selfbuild 4pcs 5kwh lfp´s and impossible to load over regen.
Hallo, u moet enkel solar panel toevoegen en je ga Shining like diamond 💎
Mooie kies gedaan, prima!
Groeten van Brussel
Hallo Zoltán,
Met solar de hele wereld rond! 😅👊🏻 Helaas is er geen plaats voor panelen op mijn bootje…
Bedankt voor je compliment. 🙏🏻👍🏻
Cool little boat what size boat is that
Thanks!
It is 4,5 meter, or about 15 feet long. And 1,55 meter, or 5 feet wide.
What is the total price? How do you charge it?
Hi Eric,
The total costs depend a great deal on where you are located. My motor costs about €3.150,-, including the remote and two propellors (high pitch and low pitch). But you can always find your local dealer online and see what deal they have for you.
The battery-pack I use (AGM deep cycle, 48V, 160Ah) cost about €1.600,-, including a suitable (20Ah) AGM-charger and all the power-cables/connector between the batteries and the motor. But also; these prices may differ greatly, depending on availability and where you live.
The charging-process is very simple. I disconnect the (Anderson)connector from the batteries to the motor and plug it into the charger.
It uses a normal domestic outlet (220V in my case) and charges with 20Ah, until full in just a few hours. Which is of course depending on how much you drained your batteries.
Please let me know if there’s anything else you would like to ask.
Thanks for the video. Consider switching your battery bank to LFP for more useable capacity, more charge/discharge cycles and less weight. Downside is higher cost but the costs have dropped considerably over the last several years. I'm may upgrade my 24V trolling motor powered Sea Lance catamaran to either the Navy 3.0 or the Navy 6.0 in the future. See Sea Lance at TH-cam channel gulfowlvideo.
Hi Roy, thanks for your comment!
Your remark on LFP is very true and I did consider those but, as you rightfully mention, the cost was a deciding factor. My supplier was also able to make me a good deal on AGM deep cycle batteries and charger, so I therefor got those.
I know LFP is by far be the best option, especially since my boat (and yours) is quite light. but it would have cost me almost three times as much, so there you go…
I even considered fabricating my own LFP battery pack for a while, but decided not to. Too many unknown variables for my almost non-existing expertise. But who knows what will happen in the future?
I wish you good luck with your Sea Lance and your choice of engine. 👍🏻
What is the weight of your boat?
It’s about 500 kg.
180 kg for the batteries, 40 kg for the motor, appr. 280 kg for the boat.
I've watched this twice I'm getting ah almost identical to this one
Did you already get your boat?
@@mathijsdevries728 I got ah 18ft flat bottom hon boat found it on offer up for 100 bucks
@@edwardboyer7102 You can hardly go wrong for that money… 😁 Congrats and good luck! 👊🏻
@@mathijsdevries728 thanks I appreciate that
how many mm is the axis in the propeller
Still haven’t measured it yet. Be patient… 🙏🏻
12
10kmh? Your joking
No, I’m not joking. Why should I and why is it funny? With my previous 15 hp petrol outboard I could reach just about 20 km/h.
With the increased weight and an equivalent of 10 hp, I now come up to about 12 km/h.
If I wanted a go-fast boat I could en should have made different choices to begin with, starting with a different type of boat. As my hull-speed lies around 8 km/h, I think 12 km/h is not even that bad… To take the boat to plane, I would now probably need the equivalent of 20 hp but I decided otherwise.
Okay
I’m just used to boats that do 60kmh, cause most boats where I live have 40s, 60s, 90s, 115s, 130s and 175s
@@videomaker8207 That’s undoubtedly a lot of fun, but wouldn’t do me much good in the canals of Amsterdam… 😅👊🏻
But this boat beats having no boat that’s for sure