Hunting for CFexpress Cards (for Fujifilm X-H2S)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- What speed? Which brand? How many GBs is enough? Not all cards can keep up with ProRes files. That's why we need to choose carefully.
I tried to take a look at the CFExpress cards we can use in this camera (Fujifilm X-H2S).
➥ You can check Fuji's compatibility table here:
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Over an hour of 4K 16:9 ProRes HQ recording time on a 512Gb CFexpress card.
Thanks for a nice video. I'm strongly considering buying an X-H2S because of its rich color shades - compared to my Sony (and Canon) cameras. I can record at least 2 hours and 30 minutes 4K ProRes HQ video on my Ninja V with 1Tb SSD, so the twenty minutes of ProRes HQ on a 512Gb CFexpress card seemed a little scary, considering the prices of CFexpress cards. I went to Fuji's site and looked at the numbers. There is a predominant probability that the 20 min. is Open Gate 6.2K 3:2 video as approx. has the size of 26 Mpix (6240 x 4160 pix). 4K 16:9, which is usually the format my customers demand, takes up approx. 8.3Mpix (3840x2160) which is less than a third of Open Gate 6.2 (26 divided by 8.3) and therefore gives over an hour of 4K 16:9 ProRes HQ recording time on a 512Gb CFexpress card which must be said to be “a little longer on the litre”
The ideal solution is of course external SSD recording via USB, let's hope Fuji allows this in the next software update.
I almost always use the Ninja V as I need a larger external monitor and better video tools, and it is so much easier to edit the ProRes files directly from the SSD drive without file transfer and intermedia file conversion, but for private use, holidays etc. it is very nice to be able to settle for a memory card.
Thanks for your comment!
Yes 6.2k takes lots of storage but if you shoot 4k ProRes on a 512gb card:
Prores HQ = 1h 17m 52s
Prores 422 = 1h 56m 28s
Prores LT = 2h 46m 37s
so it is enough in my opinion. If you have Ninja V of course you can benefit from external recording possibilities.
@@UmutLutfican Thanks for your reply. And you are absolutely right, that should be enough.
Please add some videos like this one. Much needed! Great work.
I must say, the whole vibe of this channel is so pleasant!
On topic, there's also the more risky route of making a CFExpress card out of an M.2 NVME SSD, using something like the Sintech adapter.
Thanks! :) oh I didn’t know those adapters, thanks for writing.
(Nice username by the way:)
@@UmutLutfican Hehe, thanks!
The greatest risk with buying an NVME M.2 is if you accidentally buy one with the wrong amperage and voltage. It could potentially fry your camera! So yeah, risky if you don't do your research.
Harika video!! Çok teşekkürler. Kafa karıştıran tüm meseleler aydınlanmış
From what I understand, even if they are not recommanded by Fuji, the Angelbird AV PRO CFexpress SE Type B 512 GB can technically allow to use all the capacities of the xh2s
technically yes, I guess Fuji or Angelbird haven't tried it yet. I will try and share my result here :) (I'll get the card on Monday I guess :/ )
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Such great informative video. Thanks mate!
Thank you for this video!:)
After seeing your video, I ordered the angelbird 512 se... I'll receive it on tuesday. In Switzerland I found it for 218 swiss franc (218 dollars)... will see
It seems I'll get mine on Monday. I believe it will work, but worst case scenario would be unable to write 6.2k ProRes HQ. That's it. Other options (like 6.2k prores 422) should be fine.
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Do you use your angelbird with the xh2s? does it also overheat after 45 minutes?
@@SandroHorber hi yes I use it quite often. Card gets pretty hot after recording 45+ mins continuously but It never stopped recording due to overheating of the card. (I mostly record 4k prores or h265 though, not 6.2k) But once in summer, camera was too hot and I had to cool it down.
thanks very helpful
Üstad böyle bir video yaptigin icin öncelikle tesekkürler. Sana sormak istedigim Fujifilm X-H2S icin en iyi kart hangisi sence . Her seyi tam anlamiyla en iyi yapan ? Acikcasi cok kafam karisti ve senin tavsiyene ihtiyacim acikcasi :)
Selamlar, video için fiyat/performans olarak Angelbird SE 512gb çok iyi ve her codec ve bitrate'te kayıt yapabiliyor (fakat yurtdışından getirtmek lazım 200 euroluk kart burada 330 euro civarında)
Ben risk alıp almıştım o dönem Fuji'nin listesinde yoktu, şimdi uzun süre burst yapabilir diye işaretlenmiş. Fakat aslında daha hızlı kartlar da var, onlar daha uzun süre raw burst (saniyede 20-30-40) foto kaydedebilir. Öyle bir ihtiyaç varsa tabii. Saniyede 1400-1500 mb/s sustained write diyenler var (sandisk extreme pro daha hızlıydı diye hatırlıyorum)
Fakat video içinse fazla para vermeye hiç gerek yok. Daha yüksek boyut almak veya 2 kart almak, hatta belki harici ssd almak mantıklı. (Bende tek Cfexpress olduğu için, gerekirse hızlıca boşaltabileyim diye harici SSD aldım hatta onların testini de yapıp video olarak paylaşacağım :)
@@UmutLutfican teşekkürler cevabın için. Zaten diğer videolarını izledim ve senin aldığının aynısından amazondan sipariş verdim.
Rica ederim :) yalnız amazon vergi kesiyordur hallediyordur belki ama son zamanlarda 150 euro üstü olunca çok sıkıntılı gümrük süreçleri oluyor diyorlardı bir araştırın derim.
@@UmutLutfican almanyadayim üstad o yüzden sıkıntı yok😀 dün 214 Euro verdim şimdi baktım 187 Euro olmuş. Kazık yedik yani😁
1)how did you calculate the prores data rates? prores data rates are variable because of different compression based on the scene complexity.
compression ranges from 2.5-5:1 to uncompressed raw data.
2) about the 2700mb/s prores hq data rate you mentioned, is it 6k 24/30p or 4k120p?
hi, thanks for your comment. I used Fuji’s specs from their website. If it is variable it is better for us then.
2700 mbps (~344 mb/s) is 6.2k ProRes HQ regardless of frame rate (24-25-30) as far as I know. I’ll check slow-mo rates when I get my camera.
Any idea if Fujifilm X-H2S can direct write to SSD drive via USB-C port, like LUMIX GH6?
I don't know for now, but I hope they can bring this feature with an update (if it is not possible now).
or, they've announced a file transmitter grip for studio shoots (ethernet & wireless). Maybe It can write to SSD via its USB-C port.
@@UmutLutfican Grip is $999 USD, expensive solution. It’s back to CFExpress type B then.
wow this is an amazing feature!
They need to implement that option asap.
@@UmutLutfican good point about the grip. But I feel if the grip can, then so should the main body. Of course it's anybody's guess at this point but I feel it's a firmware thing. I will try with my unit tonight.
Hi, which card You finally choose ? I am waiting for confirmation about Angel Bird MK2 cards, if they work properly or not.
hi, I asked a friend to buy Angelbird SE 512gb from abroad, I’ll try that one. Mk2 cards are superior (sustained speed is faster) so they should work in my opinion.*
Hopefully I’ll try and publish a video about SE cards this weekend.
*btw I’m comparing 6.2k vs 4k and it seems there is not much difference in terms of sharpness/clarity etc. in h265 (Even when I zoom digitally) my early impression is like this.
@@UmutLutfican i got mixed feelings, files from XH2s i so "heavy" and my PC got problems to deal with it, on my X-T4 material in 4K 400mbps wasnt a challenge it was easily editable, now i am struggle :( I got also a little bit disapointment with 4k120 its not so good as i thought it should be, but i must confirm it with another testing procedure :)
@@MichaelZi 4:2:2 is problematic (probably a software update or codec pack will solve this, we’ll see)
If you shoot 4:2:0 h265 (even 6.2k) works fine like X-T4 footage.
4k120 seemed fine to me but i need to check as well. Keep in touch
@@UmutLutfican ok i will check 4:2:0 today :)
@@MichaelZi Consider using proxies (or, alternatively, optimized media in Resolve), if that's an option.
So pro res lt, is still almost 2 times higher in quality than 720 mbps h265?(but also takes twice more datas while being much easier to edit
I wouldn't say "higher in quality". Old codecs use much more data (less compressed) but not may not be better in quality. We'll see :)
I just ordered a XH2s, upgrading from XH1- mainly using for stills but need a CF for 40fps sports photography. What would y’all recommend?
You'll need the faster ones. Like 1500 mb/s sustained write speeds etc.
Check out the "Burst" section on this list:
Double ticked and marked "*3" ones are faster (burst longer)
fujifilm-x.com/global/support/compatibility/cameras/list-of-supported-memory-cards/#cfexpress
*3 It makes shooting time longer for burst photos to use CFexpress cards marked “✔✔”
Which card is the best deal for video?
I've been using Angelbird 512gb SE card for a year, never had a problem. It is now on the official supported cards list as well.
The reason we went to school to learn math.
would i need a specific card to record 6.2k open gate? or are sd cards okay?
For h265 recording, SD cards are okay. Fuji recommends V90 cards but my V60 Lexar can write 720mbps 6.2k (or 4k etc.) It is all about bitrate. File size of 720mbps 6.2k and 4k would be same.
For ProRes, you need CFexpress Type B.
@@UmutLutfican thank you so much!! This helps a lot!
So we can record pro res 422 and pro res lt on sd v90 cards isn't it?
unfortunately not. v90 cards only record h265 (ALL-I, 10 bit 4:2:2, 720mpbs)
I pre-ordered the X-H2s and bought the Angel Bird AV Pro SE 512 GB 1785 MB/s ($179.99). Will this card be sufficient for shooting 6K and all of the other video modes the X-H2s has to offer?
on paper yes. They guarantee 800 mb/s sustained write rate which is 2x what we need. I guess I'm gonna buy that card as well.
@@UmutLutfican, I use it to shoot 8k on my Canon r5 and 6k on Panasonic s1. You can't beat the price.
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So what card you will buy?
I asked a friend to buy Angelbird SE 512gb from abroad, so I’ll get it next weekend and make a video about it.
Will an SD Card fit in CFexpress slot on X-H2S? This works on my A7IV?
That was an intelligent design by Sony. It uses CFexpress Type-A cards which are almost same size as SD. They used it for their advantage.
However X-H2s requires much bigger Type-B cards and I don't think it is SD compatible. (there is no sign that it will fit)
Thank you so much for your reply/help.