You guys are the reason I've pushed for a bigger cEDH community at my LGS. You show cEDH is accessible and fun. I appreciate everything you two do! Much love
As long as nobody is pubstomping casuals it's fine if I visit and I see cEDH in casual pods in my presence it will be known real quick I don't tolerate pubstompers.
@lukebradley5700 Just despise pubstompers. Have to refrain from beating them physically every time they try to pubstomp casual pods. You can imagine not many try it around me.
@@diegorezi5760I wouldn’t say it’s not cEDH, but yea comparing the mono white combo deck to some of the premiere multi-color good stuff decks of the format is pretty…. Iffy.
There's an argument that leaving Talion isn't that bad as it fuels your bowmasters but once rhystic is on the board as well it's too much value and you will get triggers from the rhystic anyway.
@@koreyg8552 I mean, I guess the point for that turn was that Cam was trying to put down a Grand Abolisher (which was countered but returned to hand), so he might go next turn, thus requiring to remove the RangerCaptain to lock him out of next turn. However, yeah, later on, Talion needed to move asap.
I hate people getting so scared of the one ring in cams board. Theres a rhystic in board and hes under a ton of stax. Save that interaction geez. There has been way to many times people spending all their shit on a ring and then giving enough cards to someones else fish etc to combo without anyone interacting. Edit: Oof delaying one ring to have no interaction to atraxa in the next turn is fire. One card vs 4.
Anna was setting up a Time Sieve win so not wanting TOR to come down is totally fine. That said, it‘s also a huge tell what the plan is and Nate should probably have caught that the first time around.
@@sugar5374I was definitely a little worried that I was broadcasting my plan lol people let me draw A TON of cards so I had quite a bit of interaction in hand.
Im kinda confused with Nate's gameplay here, like maybe I dont just understand what he was thinking but I feel like cam was the only player in the game who never really had a draw engine in play for very long and still got targeted hard for trying to play one where as the turn one remora, tailion, and study player was just popping off scott free? maybe im wrong idk
This is what happens when an actual biological female drops into a pod. Nerds malfunction for some reason and go into SIMP mode and try to play to impress instead of playing to win.
Pretty poor threat assessment from Nate, even before rhystic came down it was clear Anna was the threat and her not wanting ring to resolve is a huge tell for time sieve in hand
even so, she could have just delayed atraxa, gone for sieve, killed the other two, give cam 1 turn, counter everything he does, and badda bing badda boom
This is the second game I've watched recently where Nate just completely throws the game with terrible threat assessment. Just about a month ago he spent his only removal on Yuriko while Cam had The One Ring and Minamo on board.
Super hyped to hear how the tournament goes! I'm excited to say I got some friends to proxy some cedh with me so we can experience the format ourselves. Love yalls videos! Keep up the great work!
Love how both of you are metal heads like myself. Love the content you create. I know sometimes you all run a high power casual video. Have you all thought about doing a secondary channel running high power casual decks? I mean I'd be down for sure to watch sub and more. Thank you again for awesome content
@@aRFav713 me too - i would ban it in a heartbeat ngl. I feel like its worst offense is that it punches down incredibly hard on weaker decks in the format, and is even pretty indiscriminate in how it does so. Sure, the dude trying to make his selesnya jank deck work isn't doing too much rn, but i have 1 damage to point and he has a llanowar elves so....
i love that Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle can combo into infinite mana using Sol Ring, but players started to run Trinisphere, which i was able to deal with because white has a lot of different "destroy target Artifact/Enchantment" spells. But i stopped playing him mostly because all his "i win" combo's require him to cast spells and you need your graveyard. i can't believe i have mono black decks that don't require the graveyard as much as Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle does.
I love this channel but this game was hard to watch, it definitely felt like the two tivit players were protecting each other and overly focused on getting cam out of the game. I hope that there aren’t more games like this. The threat assessment and the inaction from the players really took it out of me this episode.
I hope this isn't creepy, but are you guys from PA. Obviously you mentioned the cloud city tournament and I was just wondering if you guys would ever go somewhere not so local. It'd be a dream of mine to meet you. I'm from IN btw. Anyway, love the content like always.
I gotta say this is the first I am learning about the Stroud Mall now having an LGS in it and honestly it tracks. It's far for me but I may just for the lols.
Wouldn't cam draw from the last esper even though it dies before the trigger resolved but the trigger was on the stack before the creature died so it would still happen?
As the game shook out, Teshar never hit, but I got a genuine question for Cam: why cast Memnite turn 1? It seems much more like a card for fodder either for Oswald or Teshar, and being on board ahead of Oswald being able to tap just opens up a chance for it to be interacted with while serving no other purpose.
To me, the turn 1 play dylan did to mana vault into phyxrian metamorph to copy the vault look like a bad play. I would have either copied the mox opal for the consistent mana or held the og mana vault untap, the phyrexian metamorph for later target.
@@badgalamari thanks man ive never owned a tivit, but ive cloned it a few times and ive been missing out on treasures and extra votes for other spells =D
When I'm play teshar, have Oswald is a good card so I will always use it before do anything else, like I will use Oswald to sac the memnite to search Sol ring and then cast the ranger, instead just cast the ranger and do nothing,
I'm sure I'm missing something, but on Dylan's turn 1 what is the upside of tapping the mana vault to get a second mana vault via Phyrexian Metamorph? That seemed pretty pointless from my perspective
I enjoyed the content as always. I think Dylan should have definitely mulled his hand . I understand why he kept it, but I believe that is why he didn't win that match.
i will die on the hill that tivit is the best non partner commander, and now that people are (only recently) actually respecting kinnans power enough to play around it will we see it
Its games like this where i think a high powered agro deck would just kinda run over the game. I know they just lose to players who combo off but weird metas where people decks kinda stall out and dont do anything relevant right way it makes cedh look kinda low power.
Thank you so much for having me!
What a fun game, Tivit is my real tournament deck, love it!!
Always love your energy! I clicked on this video because of you. Great game!
For the next time - you always ended your turn with Time Sieve with untapped lands. You couldve draw so many cards
Pronounced 'siv'
@@TheFeudycorrecting pronunciation on this channel is real goofy behavior.
Theory - Cam won an unreleased game on turn one and this was game two 😂
Had to be...
It feels so weird that no bowmasters triggers ring went to the player with a billion mana and two draw engines
They did poor Cam dirty on this one.
You guys are the reason I've pushed for a bigger cEDH community at my LGS. You show cEDH is accessible and fun. I appreciate everything you two do! Much love
That’s so cool to hear! Glad you’re enjoying it
As long as nobody is pubstomping casuals it's fine if I visit and I see cEDH in casual pods in my presence it will be known real quick I don't tolerate pubstompers.
@@MTGSavageyou sound real scary bro
@lukebradley5700 Just despise pubstompers. Have to refrain from beating them physically every time they try to pubstomp casual pods. You can imagine not many try it around me.
@MTGSavage you sound like a lunatic. I hope I never sit at a table near you.
Dylan "im sorry baby this never happened before i swear it can perform!!"
Ganging up on Cam was so wrong on this game. Bowmaster was just shooting randomly.
And Teshar is a Highpower deck, not a true cedh...is the same of a 14 guy playing basket with highschool, he is kind of "shorter" and less skilled
@@diegorezi5760I wouldn’t say it’s not cEDH, but yea comparing the mono white combo deck to some of the premiere multi-color good stuff decks of the format is pretty…. Iffy.
Dylan rocking that "Atraxa, Oops no lands" deck list
Killing the Ranger Captain instead of Talion was a head scratcher. There were definitely enough triggers to hit it 4 times that turn
I really love this channel, and I know they kind of help and "go easy" with guests (although who messed up was also a guest...)
There's an argument that leaving Talion isn't that bad as it fuels your bowmasters but once rhystic is on the board as well it's too much value and you will get triggers from the rhystic anyway.
@@worms35that argument is for people that don’t know magic. Drawing cards wins games not pinging for 1 damage
@@koreyg8552 I mean, I guess the point for that turn was that Cam was trying to put down a Grand Abolisher (which was countered but returned to hand), so he might go next turn, thus requiring to remove the RangerCaptain to lock him out of next turn.
However, yeah, later on, Talion needed to move asap.
@@koreyg8552if it was just one damage sure. But amass orcs makes that token pretty big too
I hate people getting so scared of the one ring in cams board. Theres a rhystic in board and hes under a ton of stax. Save that interaction geez. There has been way to many times people spending all their shit on a ring and then giving enough cards to someones else fish etc to combo without anyone interacting. Edit: Oof delaying one ring to have no interaction to atraxa in the next turn is fire. One card vs 4.
Anna was setting up a Time Sieve win so not wanting TOR to come down is totally fine. That said, it‘s also a huge tell what the plan is and Nate should probably have caught that the first time around.
@@sugar5374her cs did make sense in the end, but Nate was definitely bamboozled.
@@sugar5374I was definitely a little worried that I was broadcasting my plan lol people let me draw A TON of cards so I had quite a bit of interaction in hand.
Cam's response to being targetted is wholesome and a shining example for all commander players. Stand proud, you're strong
Im kinda confused with Nate's gameplay here, like maybe I dont just understand what he was thinking but I feel like cam was the only player in the game who never really had a draw engine in play for very long and still got targeted hard for trying to play one where as the turn one remora, tailion, and study player was just popping off scott free? maybe im wrong idk
He was on mono white vs double tivit and atraxa. Lol I feel you Cam. My friends be jumping me too.
He's like "I got 5 permanents on the board I need to remove in mono W in order to win" and the table just crushes him anyway lmfao
A lot of weird threat assessment this game.
This is what happens when an actual biological female drops into a pod. Nerds malfunction for some reason and go into SIMP mode and try to play to impress instead of playing to win.
Threat assessment where nate?
Tivit win finally on the channel, and it only took two in the pod to do so! ;_;
Pretty poor threat assessment from Nate, even before rhystic came down it was clear Anna was the threat and her not wanting ring to resolve is a huge tell for time sieve in hand
even so, she could have just delayed atraxa, gone for sieve, killed the other two, give cam 1 turn, counter everything he does, and badda bing badda boom
This is the second game I've watched recently where Nate just completely throws the game with terrible threat assessment. Just about a month ago he spent his only removal on Yuriko while Cam had The One Ring and Minamo on board.
Threat assessment was poor.
Maybe not shooting Tallion with a million Bowmaster triggers was not the play.
I clicked because 23 minute runtime! But then that was terrible
Super hyped to hear how the tournament goes! I'm excited to say I got some friends to proxy some cedh with me so we can experience the format ourselves. Love yalls videos! Keep up the great work!
Not sure how you don’t try to shoot down Talion with the bowmaster. Maybe a case of being nice to the guest
Love how both of you are metal heads like myself. Love the content you create. I know sometimes you all run a high power casual video. Have you all thought about doing a secondary channel running high power casual decks? I mean I'd be down for sure to watch sub and more. Thank you again for awesome content
hype that Anna is a Time Sieve Gamer
I’m always excited to see another PTW video!
love it when your guests get to do the thing!
Orcish bowmasters is such a ridiculously game warping card
I wish it were never printed (especially as a Green mana dork player).
@@aRFav713 me too - i would ban it in a heartbeat ngl. I feel like its worst offense is that it punches down incredibly hard on weaker decks in the format, and is even pretty indiscriminate in how it does so. Sure, the dude trying to make his selesnya jank deck work isn't doing too much rn, but i have 1 damage to point and he has a llanowar elves so....
Tbh, I feel like cam was really over targeted most this game.
I would've been losing my mind if I was Cam in this game. Kudos to him for keeping his composure. Not sure what Nate was on this time around.
Stroudsburg? An hour away from me! Guess I’m attending my first ever cEDH tournament :)
i love that Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle can combo into infinite mana using Sol Ring, but players started to run Trinisphere, which i was able to deal with because white has a lot of different "destroy target Artifact/Enchantment" spells. But i stopped playing him mostly because all his "i win" combo's require him to cast spells and you need your graveyard. i can't believe i have mono black decks that don't require the graveyard as much as Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle does.
i was looking up tivit decks as a deck to try first, good timing
Been lurking here for a while and enjoy all the games/commentary. Finally got the courage to hit record and start my own channel!
Tivit is nasty.
NICE!!!
With both being full time are we going to start seeing more content?? 🙏
That esper coloured stack on top of Grand Abolisher is so nice to look at.
Awesome to see Anna Margaret
Lmao "my first land drop, turn 7!" "Tell them atraxa is good!"
So happy to see Talion doing work, chose her as my first cedh deck commander.
I love this channel but this game was hard to watch, it definitely felt like the two tivit players were protecting each other and overly focused on getting cam out of the game. I hope that there aren’t more games like this. The threat assessment and the inaction from the players really took it out of me this episode.
I am 9 years old and am now getting into cedh
Seeing Teshar get bullied so hard feels bad 😂
Poor Dylan got hit by bad variance. I likely would've kept that same opening hand and prayed for the best
I hope this isn't creepy, but are you guys from PA. Obviously you mentioned the cloud city tournament and I was just wondering if you guys would ever go somewhere not so local. It'd be a dream of mine to meet you. I'm from IN btw. Anyway, love the content like always.
IN gang rise up
I'm from IN as well. I'd love to meet the PtW guys.
I gotta say this is the first I am learning about the Stroud Mall now having an LGS in it and honestly it tracks. It's far for me but I may just for the lols.
ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: Casting Atraxa with no lands
The cyber conversion appears to be cast with a scrubland. Not particularly important, but something I noticed
Wouldn't cam draw from the last esper even though it dies before the trigger resolved but the trigger was on the stack before the creature died so it would still happen?
Dylan's facial expressions in the beginning were something neat.
This pod was a premonition of the future. No red decks
As the game shook out, Teshar never hit, but I got a genuine question for Cam: why cast Memnite turn 1? It seems much more like a card for fodder either for Oswald or Teshar, and being on board ahead of Oswald being able to tap just opens up a chance for it to be interacted with while serving no other purpose.
To me, the turn 1 play dylan did to mana vault into phyxrian metamorph to copy the vault look like a bad play. I would have either copied the mox opal for the consistent mana or held the og mana vault untap, the phyrexian metamorph for later target.
Mox opal is legendary and also needs 3 artifacts in play to have metalcraft turned on
is there something im missing with her giving herself 2 an extra treasure when attacking?
Tivit triggers on combat damage, so maybe that
Tivit lets you vote twice for any vote
So when she votes for treasure she gets two and when the others vote it’s only one
@@badgalamari thanks man ive never owned a tivit, but ive cloned it a few times and ive been missing out on treasures and extra votes for other spells =D
stroudsburg is only an hour and a half away from me! time to brew my first cEDH deck
Oh hell yeah I was jonesing for a new video
Where can we see the deck lists, if anywhere?
My favourite part of this game is when Dylan got to play a land
I was expecting Dylan to not play a single land in this midgame hell 😂
Teshar has been a pet casual deck of mine, had wanted to see how it played in cEDH. Shame you got shut down constantly!
Best channel, when are the skull sleeves getting a restock?? ❤
Skull Sleeves are back in stock this morning!
When will the tournament be posted for us to enroll
This honestly made me want to build Tivit
Guys do you sell merch in amazon ?
When I'm play teshar, have Oswald is a good card so I will always use it before do anything else, like I will use Oswald to sac the memnite to search Sol ring and then cast the ranger, instead just cast the ranger and do nothing,
What sleeves are Dylon using? Never seen those before.
They are Dragonshield event exclusive sleeves!
@@PlaytoWinMTG they look awesome!!
I'm sure I'm missing something, but on Dylan's turn 1 what is the upside of tapping the mana vault to get a second mana vault via Phyrexian Metamorph? That seemed pretty pointless from my perspective
Turns on mox opal
Mox Opal for colored mana
I remember when Dylan got those sleeves.. no land risky
I’m registered for my first tourney!!!!
I enjoyed the content as always. I think Dylan should have definitely mulled his hand . I understand why he kept it, but I believe that is why he didn't win that match.
Cedh pod with no red and no ad naus?
May the 4th Star wars themed decks?
i need you guys to play Tameshi!
Is Nate using QR code tokens?
I would've never kept dylan's hand because in my playgroup everyone plays around turn1 remora by not playing 😅
i will die on the hill that tivit is the best non partner commander, and now that people are (only recently) actually respecting kinnans power enough to play around it will we see it
I agree, tivit is insane and it can play all the board wipes and creature hate to deal with sisay and kinnan.
Wait....yall are in PA?!?!
land is a uselsess card type, thanks guys to let me know
Good god I've seen better threat assessment from toddlers walking towards a cliff
TIVIT SUPREMACY! Man, I'm going to have to shell out finally for an Orcish Bowmaster, aren't I?
Great game!
Christ, Tivit really mopped up at the end!
Just an FYI for time sieve, Sieve is pronounced "Siv" not "Seev". :)
this is why I stress all decks should be running KARN & Null Rod (if blue also ledger shredder to stop tivit)
Are you guys really local to cloud city ?!!
So Ami ! Live near dorney ! Gonna have to try to catch h you guys at the lhvm for an autograph play mat or somethin !
Two Tivit decks, a Teshar deck, and zero Dockside to punish
Cam's hair is looking glorious
Wait... you guys live near where I grew up?!
I'm jealous. Our LGS doesn't even have a proper FNM or decent space to play. :( I have to host a room myself so that people can play.
Would Dylan’s vampiric tutor fizzle after Cam sacrificed the Ranger? Or because it is already on the stack it doesn’t matter?
yeah its already on the stack so it resolves
Anna really should have used her mana on clues and sac'd treasures instead.
Its games like this where i think a high powered agro deck would just kinda run over the game. I know they just lose to players who combo off but weird metas where people decks kinda stall out and dont do anything relevant right way it makes cedh look kinda low power.
I'm trying to win the game, factor that in hahahha Love you guys! Anna's great! Good vibes for sure, positivity!!
Bowmaster going crazy
Atraxa!!!!! Let's goooo!
❤❤❤
Most fed bowmasters ever
the matamorph on the permanent you used to cast it doesnt make much sense dylan...
it's pretty much the only option. Needed to turn on metalcraft so I could use mox opal
why does this not look that fun? I mean compared to my edh pod this seems very neutral game and staxy is this all cedh is?
Bit late to this video, but Tivet much like food chain wins games
Another great game! #thebestpartofsunday #playtowinmtg
Bring blood pod back to the channel 🙏🙏
Excellent stuff by Anna!
All I see is 3 Tivit !
GO ANNA MARGARET!!!!! Nice win!!