Fukn spot on for the job it's for Mate. Couldn't fault it but would have liked to see how much correction the seats took to become concentric and where you placed the seats on the valve face. For someone that didn't know that would have completed the technical aspect of the job/video. Cheers mate
@@100Aces have you ever had someone tell you you’re not capable of something? Leaving that situation and creating a better one for myself taught me that was very rarely true.
Really enjoy having a machinist talk straight up instead of hiding "trade secrets" always been interested in machining never had an opportunity it's a dying art that will be sorely missed by motorheads everywhere
My "Old K-Line" Bronze Guide Liner tooling has a Spiral Knurling tool to expand to guide. Recommended by Buddy Morrison (Rehere-Morrison), When they were in a portable building behing Mansfield Auto Parts. Retired 😊
If you don’t use differential valve and seat angles to control the seat contact width then your seat width is strictly controlled by how accurate you got the angles into and out of the seat with your stones.
I'm not sure why it's so enjoyable to watch you work on these heads and stuff, but it is. Please don't ever throw politics in. We're about to get enough of that in a few months.....
What do you mean in a few months. It has been going on for well ever since 1789 and before. It's always politics except this time around we are going to have one hell of a barn burner.
I love the double torque. I noticed a bunch of airplanes falling out of the sky today. Now I know why it was the disturbance in the torque police force. Lol😂
Great video thanks and its not that you got a "rise”outta me just that id like to put a respectful thought - on valve angles , as a person who sees and has seen the inside of a lot of engines and only because i mostly work on diesels with very dirty carbon’d up intakes to the extent with modern egr that chunks of it fall into the valves quite often - i do think a slight mismatch in the angles helps keep a very high pressure per contact area thus helping crush the stuff and prevent it staying too long between and then getting a burnt valve because of it chuffing
This gives the individuals who do not know better the steps that go into a quality valve job. This is the basics that all valve jobs start out with. Very educational.🥸👍
valve guide knurling will work as long as there is something there to knurl ! as long as the guide is not worn out completely and you clean all the swarf [crud ] out after reaming ! but new will always fix it !
Knurling is only for throwing it together to sell the car. At the cost of machinist time these days, why do it half assed? Won't last more than 40,000 miles at best.
This looks exactly like how we used to do it...and I worked for one of the biggest engine refurb and new build plants in the US...lookin good there on this repair job...I'm sure alot of smaller workshops gonna squeal like Karen's over this...Don't care...this is how it's done. 😂
JOSH, I LOVE YOUR VIDS AND I DON'T MISS ANY OF THEM ! A WORD TO THE WISE...KEEP HUMBLE AND NEVER NEVER NEVER USE "THE LOOK AT ME NOW" CARD !!!!!!! IT HAS THE SAME DAMAGING POWER OF, "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM" CARD ! I HOPE I NEVER HEAR YOU CALL ANYONE OUT AGAIN ! YOUR WORK SPEAKS FOR ITSELF SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ! YOU SHOULD ALWAYS TAKE THE HIGH ROAD JUST LIKE WHEN YOU ALWAYS GO THE EXTRA MILE FOR YOU CLIENTS ! BELIEVE ME THE SHOPS THAT YOU USED TO WORK AT ALREADY KNOW HOW GOOD YOU ARE ! KEEP THE VIDEOS COMING, THEY ARE ENTERTAINING AND AWESOME ! STAY HUMBLE !
This happened over ten years ago and you unfortunately don’t know me well enough nor know enough about what happened to know why I got so much enjoyment out of that scene. I say all kinds of things that people don’t like. At this point in my life, I’m more interested in being the most true to myself as I can be. So I appreciate the letter. Your capitalization is impeccable. Have a good one king.
Josh only showed us the work he did on the second head the other one was already done at the beginning of the video. He does very good work. Ted from down under.
With just a back cut on these valves you can pick up 30% on your low lift flow numbers .. I've been told . as per Eric Weingartner ... for it's benefit there should be no reason way a simple back cut was not done given the benefit of doing so but aside from that nice work ..and I know what I'm talking about after spending 50 yrs in the Motorhead business
Really like how you think, make it perfect or not at all. I hate the fact that if I want something done properly I have to do it myself. Can’t trust most of the shops anymore. My autism prevents me from trusting the work. “What if the shop gorilla had a bad day, or what if he is focused on a prairie harp hes going to date” did they do a good work… the mind wanders.
Everyone wants to do a good job! Especially my buddy that asked me to help out. Unfortunately because of some past experiences a call was made to get involved and make sure everyone can just see it through and can move on.
I want that coffee maker real bad! I have no patience for percolators and drip coffee machines. Too busy ruining my vehicles with useless "improvements".
As a certified internet expert, chip vacuum enforcer, pneumatic spring compressor connoisseur, bench racer, armchair tuner and political commentator I take offence to this video and how dare you tell me its all going to be ok when clearly it is not. I mean using a chuck? Really? LAWD whats next...
With the cost of the work done I assume the price would be equal to an entry level set of aluminum heads. At what point do you turn away this type of work or set them up with a new purchase?
Josh, love your videos! In your cast iron block repair video, what rod did you use for your TIG welding and you have any cast iron welding tips? I have to repair a crack in the bell housing bolt of a 302 Windsor.
Is one of the ears broken on the bellhousing? We’ve done those repairs with 308L and a second person running a torch to help keep things toasty. I used 308L on my block repair to answer your question. We have also had good success with ni99 rod but you’ll do okay with the 308L.
Top drivers side is split on the block about 1/2" in. It looks like the guy that owned it previously tried to pull the bellhousing on with bolts when the locator pins weren't aligned. I think he tried to repair it by drilling it out and tapping it with a bigger bolt. It's probably only a 300 something horsepower motor so I was thinking on cleaning it up, welding the seam, and then helicoiling it.
308 SS is low carbon content but high nickle so that must be why it works? Just straight argon, no tri mix? I'm nervous about getting it wrong. I have some mig wire I thought of using as some tig filler, royal 44 I think it's what it's called. Moser eng told me that's what they used welding axle tubes up on cast iron center sections. I had to brace an 8.8 so I bought a small spool of it a long time ago.
@@johnnymizerati6169 straight argon. Lots of gas coverage. Heat up the part so it’s not dead cold. Take breaks and let its temperature equalize occasionally. Its not a race. In the vid you saw I warmed it up, but was only building up a corner on the part. I didn’t try pushing the weld into the main web which you noticed. So mine went easy. Yours will take some time, it wont wanna flow nice. It gets better when the cast started to mix with the wire. Also only just enough heat to get the part to puddle. Penetration isn’t a thing on cast iron. It doesn’t get stronger with more heat.
Thank you so much for the tips! It's been sitting on an engine stand in the back corner since two houses ago... 😢 It's hard to find good info on cast iron welding so maybe I'll finally be able to get it done now.
So funny I use a drill chuck for some operations in my seat and guide machine (spring seats stud bosses ect) . Nothing wrong with using the correct tool for the Job. I have never done a liner. Seen many of them but maybe because of my teacher (grandfather) i have always replaced the guides. Why do you choose liner rather then a Iron replacement guide? Last question is the valve grinder wheel a ruby from goodson or CHS ? I have tried them but did not get the finish you have and ended up switching back to a gp wheel. I have the same grinder sitting under a tarp I got for free when the local community college did some upgrades. It is missing the motor and dome other parts but someday I will go through it but for now my old Sioux dose the job.
My ruby came from performance plus along with a special diamond dresser. And I prefer a bronze guide in general, if I can avoid drilling for a false guide and can use a liner then I always do that, just to help keep things concentric. My experience with liners is they’re tougher than anything else out there especially when you use a rapid brand liner. There are lots of other factors and also keeping in mind that I mainly work on performance stuff. I will say the replacement engine for my silverado will have rapid liners in it!
Josh, if you were my neighbor when I was a young teenager, I would have gladly been your shop monkey to learn the trade. I would have kept your shop pristine clean and done all the crap work to get a priceless education.
I’m sorry, but you’re married and I’m too young for you. There’s a power dynamic here that makes things even more complicated. This is never going to work.
As a fellow home shop machinist rebuilding a flathead 4 engine I want to ask, what is your opinion of the Neway valve seat cutter vs traditional stones?
I have no idea if what you were saying and what you were doing is right or wrong, but to my idiot self, it looks good to me. Now, how can I send you my GM 3800 C&C Ported and polished heads so you to do a proper valve job on them?
@@gregtaylor6146 I watched one video and enjoyed it when I saw enough of these comments. I consume very little machining content on youtube. I watch a lot of cooking and science stuff haha.
Intro sounds like a 12 step confession you have a problem. My name is Josh and I'm an engine builder.
I’m quite pleased with that intro. Good practice for future vids.
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!
LMFAO!!! Love you brother
I'm a plumber and I fix heavy equipment. When I take a break to press my coffee the world can wait!!
Peace and love brother
😂😂😂😂
Nicely done! Just goes to show, you don't need the best of the best to do quality work.
Brutal honesty and calling it like it is! More!
Great work! A talented machinist is a life long friend to me.
Fukn spot on for the job it's for Mate.
Couldn't fault it but would have liked to see how much correction the seats took to become concentric and where you placed the seats on the valve face.
For someone that didn't know that would have completed the technical aspect of the job/video.
Cheers mate
As a fellow machinist I appreciate the detailed step by step.
I try my best!
Great to see you checked the valve protection and used the dimension to set the spring seat. At least your stems won’t all be the same height .
I couldn’t care less if the stems are the same height from intake to exhaust at least.
Thoroughly entertaining!
Thank you for sharing👌🏻
I did it all for you.
lol you are not bitter at all about your old employer. Great video though and the explanation is great 😂
Well youtube automatically deleted my comment. I guess nobody is allowed to have fun now 😔
He has to explain it…to make sure HE gets it.
@@100Aces have you ever had someone tell you you’re not capable of something? Leaving that situation and creating a better one for myself taught me that was very rarely true.
I'm learning as much as I can from you, thank you so very much
Great to see John C. Edwards book on your bench. Miss that guy.
I used to watch his videos daily when I was trying to advance myself in the industry
Really enjoy having a machinist talk straight up instead of hiding "trade secrets" always been interested in machining never had an opportunity it's a dying art that will be sorely missed by motorheads everywhere
There are no secrets here
My "Old K-Line" Bronze Guide Liner tooling has a Spiral Knurling tool to expand to guide.
Recommended by Buddy Morrison (Rehere-Morrison),
When they were in a portable building behing Mansfield Auto Parts.
Retired 😊
If you don’t use differential valve and seat angles to control the seat contact width then your seat width is strictly controlled by how accurate you got the angles into and out of the seat with your stones.
I'm not sure why it's so enjoyable to watch you work on these heads and stuff, but it is. Please don't ever throw politics in. We're about to get enough of that in a few months.....
What do you mean in a few months. It has been going on for well ever since 1789 and before. It's always politics except this time around we are going to have one hell of a barn burner.
@billywird Yeah and It always gets far worse around election year/ Season. It's nice to have a place to escape from that crap
@@billywird
BING0 1789!
Don't get us started😂
I love the double torque. I noticed a bunch of airplanes falling out of the sky today. Now I know why it was the disturbance in the torque police force. Lol😂
Welcome back brother!!!!! We have missed you.
Nice work! I like your dry sense of humour too!😅
Quality work. No bull crap. I like it.
Amazing. Just subscribed. Great channel. You’re an artist!
Huh, I didn't know pickles were available in bags. Learn something new everyday 😂
They are in fact sold in bags!
new sub here, love the attention to detail and humor, look forward to more content, thanks
The. A. H’s of the World -Propel the Wise into their Purpose Great Job
Thanks for sharing the knowledge.🇨🇦
bagel with creame cheese and pickle ! yummy - with a cup of tea = thank`s josh your a champ ! would you do subaru heads ? sti 4 cam .
I prefer a heaping pile of lox and fresh veggies on my bagels. And no i would not!
Great video thanks and its not that you got a "rise”outta me just that id like to put a respectful thought - on valve angles , as a person who sees and has seen the inside of a lot of engines and only because i mostly work on diesels with very dirty carbon’d up intakes to the extent with modern egr that chunks of it fall into the valves quite often - i do think a slight mismatch in the angles helps keep a very high pressure per contact area thus helping crush the stuff and prevent it staying too long between and then getting a burnt valve because of it chuffing
This gives the individuals who do not know better the steps that go into a quality valve job. This is the basics that all valve jobs start out with. Very educational.🥸👍
valve guide knurling will work as long as there is something there to knurl ! as long as the guide is not worn out completely and you clean all the swarf [crud ] out after reaming ! but new will always fix it !
One more comment away from getting the ban hammer.
skin it pull that smoke wagon ! let that hammer fall ! your kinda dime bag any way !@@EngineRehab
Knurling is only for throwing it together to sell the car. At the cost of machinist time these days, why do it half assed? Won't last more than 40,000 miles at best.
Your funny bro 😎 😅keep up the great work 🙏🏻👍
I've been hunting for a machine shop with a flow bench. Turns out there are none in the state of Alabama. At least none that advertise.
There are many!
@@EngineRehab if you have contact information, I would be grateful 🙏
Love the vid and the commentary!!!
This looks exactly like how we used to do it...and I worked for one of the biggest engine refurb and new build plants in the US...lookin good there on this repair job...I'm sure alot of smaller workshops gonna squeal like Karen's over this...Don't care...this is how it's done. 😂
I was screaming no when you put milk in that coffee
Seems like amazing work, I’d say it’s amazing work but I got no say in machining beside just turning rotors.
Seen a thousand guide liners fall out never seen knurling fall out. Guide lines are cheesy.
JOSH, I LOVE YOUR VIDS AND I DON'T MISS ANY OF THEM ! A WORD TO THE WISE...KEEP HUMBLE AND NEVER NEVER NEVER USE "THE LOOK AT ME NOW" CARD !!!!!!! IT HAS THE SAME DAMAGING POWER OF, "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM" CARD ! I HOPE I NEVER HEAR YOU CALL ANYONE OUT AGAIN !
YOUR WORK SPEAKS FOR ITSELF SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ! YOU SHOULD ALWAYS TAKE THE HIGH ROAD JUST LIKE WHEN YOU ALWAYS GO THE EXTRA MILE FOR YOU CLIENTS ! BELIEVE ME THE SHOPS THAT YOU USED TO WORK AT ALREADY KNOW HOW GOOD YOU ARE !
KEEP THE VIDEOS COMING, THEY ARE ENTERTAINING AND AWESOME !
STAY HUMBLE !
This happened over ten years ago and you unfortunately don’t know me well enough nor know enough about what happened to know why I got so much enjoyment out of that scene. I say all kinds of things that people don’t like. At this point in my life, I’m more interested in being the most true to myself as I can be. So I appreciate the letter. Your capitalization is impeccable. Have a good one king.
Thanks Joe, had to pause to wake back up, wouldn’t let you work on a wheel barrow.
Nothing like good old subjectivity to defecate in your cereal.
Great job! My only concern is the engine is only going to have one good head. Well, I guess one good head is better than not having any!
Josh only showed us the work he did on the second head the other one was already done at the beginning of the video. He does very good work. Ted from down under.
@@timlee4204 Just joking my friend!
May I ask what you are recording with that playback is in 4k HDR? Thanks
Nice job Josh.
Have a great day.
Good content. Sorry about the in-laws. Been there… 😢
With just a back cut on these valves you can pick up 30% on your low lift flow numbers .. I've been told . as per Eric Weingartner ... for it's benefit there should be no reason way a simple back cut was not done given the benefit of doing so but aside from that nice work ..and I know what I'm talking about after spending 50 yrs in the Motorhead business
Really like how you think, make it perfect or not at all. I hate the fact that if I want something done properly I have to do it myself. Can’t trust most of the shops anymore. My autism prevents me from trusting the work. “What if the shop gorilla had a bad day, or what if he is focused on a prairie harp hes going to date” did they do a good work… the mind wanders.
Everyone wants to do a good job! Especially my buddy that asked me to help out. Unfortunately because of some past experiences a call was made to get involved and make sure everyone can just see it through and can move on.
Most people go to heads and kill the deal when they choose the bump stick anyway
I had no idea the exhaust ports were thumb sized on a 302. I'm used to Cleveland's. Those look comically small to me
I want that coffee maker real bad! I have no patience for percolators and drip coffee machines. Too busy ruining my vehicles with useless "improvements".
get one. French press kicks butt.
I agree on the spring compressor lol
AvE’s nephew - nice to meet you Sir
Awesome video!👍
love the intro
Great engine man! Maybe get a real coffee machine some day however.
As a certified internet expert, chip vacuum enforcer, pneumatic spring compressor connoisseur, bench racer, armchair tuner and political commentator I take offence to this video and how dare you tell me its all going to be ok when clearly it is not. I mean using a chuck? Really? LAWD whats next...
With the cost of the work done I assume the price would be equal to an entry level set of aluminum heads. At what point do you turn away this type of work or set them up with a new purchase?
Pretty much blueprinted those heads.
Cool cool. Thank ya 👍
Nice Stirring stick ... i can say i THOT of that .... just never tried 😊😅
Port, polish, cc, if you're not going to bother, just scrap it.
Not worth the time for stock. Not gaining that much for how much you'll spend.
Josh, love your videos! In your cast iron block repair video, what rod did you use for your TIG welding and you have any cast iron welding tips? I have to repair a crack in the bell housing bolt of a 302 Windsor.
Is one of the ears broken on the bellhousing? We’ve done those repairs with 308L and a second person running a torch to help keep things toasty. I used 308L on my block repair to answer your question. We have also had good success with ni99 rod but you’ll do okay with the 308L.
Top drivers side is split on the block about 1/2" in. It looks like the guy that owned it previously tried to pull the bellhousing on with bolts when the locator pins weren't aligned. I think he tried to repair it by drilling it out and tapping it with a bigger bolt. It's probably only a 300 something horsepower motor so I was thinking on cleaning it up, welding the seam, and then helicoiling it.
308 SS is low carbon content but high nickle so that must be why it works? Just straight argon, no tri mix? I'm nervous about getting it wrong. I have some mig wire I thought of using as some tig filler, royal 44 I think it's what it's called. Moser eng told me that's what they used welding axle tubes up on cast iron center sections. I had to brace an 8.8 so I bought a small spool of it a long time ago.
@@johnnymizerati6169 straight argon. Lots of gas coverage. Heat up the part so it’s not dead cold. Take breaks and let its temperature equalize occasionally. Its not a race. In the vid you saw I warmed it up, but was only building up a corner on the part. I didn’t try pushing the weld into the main web which you noticed. So mine went easy. Yours will take some time, it wont wanna flow nice. It gets better when the cast started to mix with the wire. Also only just enough heat to get the part to puddle. Penetration isn’t a thing on cast iron. It doesn’t get stronger with more heat.
Thank you so much for the tips! It's been sitting on an engine stand in the back corner since two houses ago... 😢 It's hard to find good info on cast iron welding so maybe I'll finally be able to get it done now.
I wanted to see the knurling in the old guides... 😢
You’re almost there…
Did you make your cylinder head fixture yourself?
I did not. That came from CP Motoworks
That valve sticks out far past the locks. How long are the LS3 valves you use compared to the stock 302 valves?
That’s the stock 302 valve.
Ummm you need to slow your roll on that french press. You went waaay too fast. Love your videos dude!!!
Its sped up lol
HAHA too smooth sir!@@EngineRehab
So funny I use a drill chuck for some operations in my seat and guide machine (spring seats stud bosses ect) . Nothing wrong with using the correct tool for the Job. I have never done a liner. Seen many of them but maybe because of my teacher (grandfather) i have always replaced the guides. Why do you choose liner rather then a Iron replacement guide? Last question is the valve grinder wheel a ruby from goodson or CHS ? I have tried them but did not get the finish you have and ended up switching back to a gp wheel. I have the same grinder sitting under a tarp I got for free when the local community college did some upgrades. It is missing the motor and dome other parts but someday I will go through it but for now my old Sioux dose the job.
My ruby came from performance plus along with a special diamond dresser. And I prefer a bronze guide in general, if I can avoid drilling for a false guide and can use a liner then I always do that, just to help keep things concentric. My experience with liners is they’re tougher than anything else out there especially when you use a rapid brand liner. There are lots of other factors and also keeping in mind that I mainly work on performance stuff. I will say the replacement engine for my silverado will have rapid liners in it!
Josh, if you were my neighbor when I was a young teenager, I would have gladly been your shop monkey to learn the trade.
I would have kept your shop pristine clean and done all the crap work to get a priceless education.
I’m sorry, but you’re married and I’m too young for you. There’s a power dynamic here that makes things even more complicated. This is never going to work.
@@EngineRehab Dude, I'm a guy. But as a kid, I would have loved learning from a skilled machinist like you.
@@Absaalookemensch I’m from California. Sooooo
@@EngineRehab I grew-up in the Bay Area.
@@Absaalookemensch I’m about an hour from SF. Different world now I am sure.
As a fellow home shop machinist rebuilding a flathead 4 engine I want to ask, what is your opinion of the Neway valve seat cutter vs traditional stones?
A quality stone setup that’s not worn out will walk all over a neway.
WATCH "POWELL MACHINE" AS AN EXAMPLE !
Who?
@@EngineRehab It is another youtube channel with an automotive machinist. Sometimes he has to redo engines that were machined incorrectly.
@@skylinefever I watch cooking videos on TH-cam lol.
I have no idea if what you were saying and what you were doing is right or wrong, but to my idiot self, it looks good to me. Now, how can I send you my GM 3800 C&C Ported and polished heads so you to do a proper valve job on them?
If you actually vac'd after every hole, you'd get half the work done.
Not sure if I need to ready the ban hammer or not
Are these E7 heads or are they GT40s?
thanks
What fluid do you use in your valve grinder?
Grinding oil with lots of titanium additive
If it is original 45 and 44 make them 45 and 45 fort street and hot rodding ? Gas engines.
Stockton,ca. Baby..janky 209 like a mf!😆😈
You can take the homie out the hood…
That part!💯
@@209_Smg_Dre thanks for watching! Stay safe out there. Stockton makes people crazy.
Not sure what you mean by this type of work? He's just doing regular machine work that needs to be done properly.
I’m not following
@@EngineRehab as in my initial question in my comment, I'm not following either lol
@@steveg8337 i think we should just hug and part ways.
those studs look like jewelry
........... clearly a 'This Old Tony' fan?
I’ve never heard of it until the comments like this came along.
@@EngineRehab - In which case and, just so you know, TOT is a machining 'God' so any such inference is only ever a good thing.
@@gregtaylor6146 I watched one video and enjoyed it when I saw enough of these comments. I consume very little machining content on youtube. I watch a lot of cooking and science stuff haha.
what do you do if the guide is to big for a k line ?????
You contemplate your life.
bron EL
@@EngineRehab
You seem to care a lot about what haters think of your work... Why give them the time or energy?
Do you take customer work?
No.
I am OK with politics as long as you are not an elitist or globalist.
Shop politics
😂
Again with yellow and red in the same video. Sacrilege. Unsubscribed. Ugh.
I can add a green one into the mix