for the first time i have to agree with a guy everyone knows that always lower the chart difficulty. Imagine this and Infinite strife are at the same level
I expected something more flashy with chunithm’s chart and how nitro handled spider’s thread… The drop is pretty underwhelming and I feel like nitro could’ve utilised more slow-downs? Really expected toaster to chart this… I have no choice but to warm up to it over time ig
Overall, I think the chart is really fun and well balanced. I like the way they make it difficult enough without making it extremely stamina-intensive like Einherjar Joker (I expected it due to the nature of the song and the original CHUNITHM chart). Most of the patterns are quite basic and simple, nothing crazy new or innovative and that's absolutely fine. 1:41 I really like the reference for the cross hand. It's so much harder for thumb play though compared to index. My only complaint is that I expected 1:45 to have more rhythms and tap notes. I want the intensity and satisfaction of clicks in the drop. But instead we get an arc section with annoying hitbox.
I can’t understand opinions that this is 10.8 or something at all Imo this is literally the hardest among 10+ except some semi-11(Infinite Strife, Breach of Faith)
nice chart, mostly for the first 60 seconds. but this doesn't look like a 10.9, it's 10.8 imo EDIT: Anything else lower than that for other ppls perspective?
I can't wait for people to start saying the fanmades are better even tho the official actually cares more about playability than those by a large margin, and are probably not even rated accurately
Do you think, like me, that after 4.0, there are too many overcharted and unnecessary crosshand patterns? I enjoy speed songs, but crosshand and tap sections feel unfair, especially for phone players like me. People buy the packs for a fun or challenging experience, and speed is fine, but when it comes to crosshand and taps at the same time, it becomes unfair for phone players. For example, I have 12.45 potential and can handle the speed parts, but I struggle with the excessive crosshand patterns.
Man, this is like the "plain rice w/ fried egg and hotdog" of the Chunithm boss songs. It's not bad but this one just feels so underwhelming compared to the 10+'s in the pack; I expected the same levels of peakness, honestly. But welp, at least I like this better than the overcharted atrocity called Chaos (looking at you exsch).
@@renka-chan9213 for a chart to be 10.9 it must be harder than most of 10.7 and 10.8 charts but I just don't see it here. Especially we just have DFTM (hard af 10.7) and ARTM (easy 10.9) and they said DA'AT easier than ARTM of course Breach of Faith and Infinite Strife are also 10.9
One of the 10+ charts that I find are quite fun? AND IT IS IN THE CHUNITHM PACK? Holy sharts! They managed to make it fun and easier, and even being the lowest 10+ in the entire pack.
The community is actually very disappointed about the chart treatment. Most agree this is not 10.9, it is around 10.7-10.8. Some give 10.5, which is also reasonable considering how 10 is treated now. The stream feels not interesting enough, some felt like copies from other charts, like omega 4, vulcanus? Compared to Breath of Faith 10.9, this is not even comparable.
I think I can see why it is 10.9, it's controversial and may come as difficult in different ways for different people Some can't deal with note placements, some can't deal with the speed, etc. Some finds it dead easy but some finds it overwhelmingly hard. That's why it just stays neutral for both sides, being 10.9
It’s not comparable to Breach of Faith because Daat is stamina chart and Breach is tech chart. I can EX Breach with thumb but there's no way I can EX Daat with thumb. Completely different skill set required. A comparable chart to Daat is Einherjar Joker. If you can keep up with the speed, it's easy. If you can't, it feels impossible.
I mean, Chronicle chorus part works, but DA'AT chorus doesn't. The reason why is, Chronicle matches the motif and grouping While DA'AT doesn't quite. The arc pattern inconsistent and over-complicated. I feel if not aim for difficulty, the part can definitely work better.
@@renka-chan9213 We all know it's reference. The issue is never the chunithm reference itself. It's always about the designer can make a reasonable design choice.
Wow! What a nice 10! …Wait, what do you mean this is a 10+? Jokes aside, this chart feels…very “average”, you could say. The charts didn’t give me any memorable points. If it was charted with more multifinger or have the drop charted to more of the background synth as well, this could’ve been much more memorable. This right now is a 10.5, I wonder if it’s because there are difficulty restrictions before charts are made…?
@@renka-chan9213 no. He has a reason. Most patterns look like 10 but only faster. The only exception is the flute part, which is the only hardest part
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WE GOT DIFFICULTY ADJUSTMENT UPDATE IN ORDER TO FCK IT UP AGAIN 🔥🔥🔥
Yet someone will still say that this is perfect as a 10.7/10.6 😭 like are they trolling or what
0:24 Funny pattern
this is the “can you read high bpm streams” chart
if you can it’s a 10.6
if you can’t it’s a 11.1
average 10.85≈10.9 it make senses
for the first time i have to agree with a guy everyone knows that always lower the chart difficulty. Imagine this and Infinite strife are at the same level
if y'all are calling this 10.7 none of you get to complain about the next exsch 10.9
daat 10.3 haha im so fucking funny!!
ok seriously tho maybe 10.9 is fine for. this maybe 10.8 could work too
i can see how arcaea has changed their charting styles, not to focus on overcharting but the difficulty flowings. They really listen to us, players!
I Truly love this chart, it just feels good to play. Part of it is because i like high bpm, but the flow and playability just feels nice.
I expected something more flashy with chunithm’s chart and how nitro handled spider’s thread…
The drop is pretty underwhelming and I feel like nitro could’ve utilised more slow-downs?
Really expected toaster to chart this… I have no choice but to warm up to it over time ig
I don’t know what everyone is talking about saying this is easy I’m having lots of troubke
It feels much simpler than the other collab 10.9 songs
Not only that people in discord have played it
@@Rando2101vulcanus is 10.9 and is way easier
Idk how this got a 10.9 after Nitro dropped ARTM but okay🙃
what does artm stand for im really dumb
@@AriaLowoand revive the melody
@@AriaLowo and revive the melody in ongeki, which is a 10.9
@@no-mt2ts im so fucking smart
Overall, I think the chart is really fun and well balanced. I like the way they make it difficult enough without making it extremely stamina-intensive like Einherjar Joker (I expected it due to the nature of the song and the original CHUNITHM chart). Most of the patterns are quite basic and simple, nothing crazy new or innovative and that's absolutely fine.
1:41 I really like the reference for the cross hand. It's so much harder for thumb play though compared to index.
My only complaint is that I expected 1:45 to have more rhythms and tap notes. I want the intensity and satisfaction of clicks in the drop. But instead we get an arc section with annoying hitbox.
i agree so much about 1:45 ! but this is really well charted nonetheless.
can't wait to not buy this pack because i dont have money rn lol
I thought 1:45 is the best and most fun part here lul
@@gdtargetvn2418more like most bullshit part, the arcs appear out of nowhere wtf
@@frankie391 Now that I watch the CHUNITHM Master chart again, the arcs made sense tbh.
@@frankie391 arc vibe is the most reasonable way to chart that part, so idk
Arcaea players when there aren’t 501819229 things happening at once (they don’t even have the pack)
The chart in chunithm is hella overwhelming but fun, idk about this chart but it's def missing something
It has a good speed tho, I can't complain
I can’t understand opinions that this is 10.8 or something at all
Imo this is literally the hardest among 10+ except some semi-11(Infinite Strife, Breach of Faith)
nice chart, mostly for the first 60 seconds. but this doesn't look like a 10.9, it's 10.8 imo
EDIT: Anything else lower than that for other ppls perspective?
Some say 10.7 in discord. Most agree on 10.7-10.8 rating
I can't wait for people to start saying the fanmades are better even tho the official actually cares more about playability than those by a large margin, and are probably not even rated accurately
I unironically think the ACC6 submission version of this song is more fun and intuitive than official despite it being overall more scrappy
@@christophobia6415 lmao "intuitive"? yeah the chart that randomly throws you a multifinger section for no reason is more intuitive 😭
@@AkaruiYAGI Still better than the eldritch crosshands and weird patterns that cut out important parts of the rhythm
@@christophobia6415 these ain't even that bad you might as well just say you have skill issue, nothing wrong with admitting that
Do you think, like me, that after 4.0, there are too many overcharted and unnecessary crosshand patterns? I enjoy speed songs, but crosshand and tap sections feel unfair, especially for phone players like me. People buy the packs for a fun or challenging experience, and speed is fine, but when it comes to crosshand and taps at the same time, it becomes unfair for phone players. For example, I have 12.45 potential and can handle the speed parts, but I struggle with the excessive crosshand patterns.
Man, this is like the "plain rice w/ fried egg and hotdog" of the Chunithm boss songs. It's not bad but this one just feels so underwhelming compared to the 10+'s in the pack; I expected the same levels of peakness, honestly.
But welp, at least I like this better than the overcharted atrocity called Chaos (looking at you exsch).
It doesn't even have its own unique bg :
@@franciscodecomayaguela9496like c'mon man, ikazuchi bg?
Idk how some of y'all think it's easy
Y'all have more experience than me prolly, but that doesn't mean that the chart constant has to be lower lmao
@@renka-chan9213 for a chart to be 10.9 it must be harder than most of 10.7 and 10.8 charts but I just don't see it here. Especially we just have DFTM (hard af 10.7) and ARTM (easy 10.9) and they said DA'AT easier than ARTM
of course Breach of Faith and Infinite Strife are also 10.9
@frankie391 Hmmmm.... That is true...
One of the 10+ charts that I find are quite fun? AND IT IS IN THE CHUNITHM PACK? Holy sharts! They managed to make it fun and easier, and even being the lowest 10+ in the entire pack.
its rated 10.9
the chart is sooo undercharted, we really need the byd to play the real da'at
Please play the chart before you say what cc it should be. Looking at the chart is not the same as playing the chart.
Please look at the comment sessions. Most of them have played this chart
@@arcaea_guy please learn how to think critcally, you shouldn't assume that people play the chart before commenting on this
@DJruslan4ic No. You can ask them
arcaea players when the chart isn't painfully unsightreadable (how dare they have fun)
見た感じだとLAMIAより難しそうにしか見えないんだけど、
逆詐称っていう意見が多そうだから実際プレイしてみたら意外と簡単なのかな？
全然個人差だが、個人的にはLAMIAの方が簡単
なんだか全体的にもうちょっとインパクトが欲しい感じだな…
今回お互いにだいぶ抑えたね
音取りがあまりにもクソすぎてダートを入れる必要なかった
1:45 ここら辺とかもうちょい乱打気味でも良かった気がする
The community is actually very disappointed about the chart treatment. Most agree this is not 10.9, it is around 10.7-10.8. Some give 10.5, which is also reasonable considering how 10 is treated now.
The stream feels not interesting enough, some felt like copies from other charts, like omega 4, vulcanus?
Compared to Breath of Faith 10.9, this is not even comparable.
I think I can see why it is 10.9, it's controversial and may come as difficult in different ways for different people
Some can't deal with note placements, some can't deal with the speed, etc. Some finds it dead easy but some finds it overwhelmingly hard. That's why it just stays neutral for both sides, being 10.9
@gdtargetvn2418 Not so much. Aside from the strong opening, other parts feel tame and the last stream seems quite straightforward unlike other 10.9s
It’s not comparable to Breach of Faith because Daat is stamina chart and Breach is tech chart. I can EX Breach with thumb but there's no way I can EX Daat with thumb. Completely different skill set required.
A comparable chart to Daat is Einherjar Joker. If you can keep up with the speed, it's easy. If you can't, it feels impossible.
@zomzombos8257 Well skill issue
@zomzombos8257 you can multiple finger if you feel sky floor combinations in such fast speed is impossible
I mean,
Chronicle chorus part works,
but DA'AT chorus doesn't.
The reason why is, Chronicle matches the motif and grouping
While DA'AT doesn't quite.
The arc pattern inconsistent and over-complicated.
I feel if not aim for difficulty, the part can definitely work better.
yup, Chronicle chorus part is enjoyable while this is just dumb
Fun fact: DA'AT chorus is actually a chunithm reference
@@renka-chan9213 We all know it's reference.
The issue is never the chunithm reference itself.
It's always about the designer can make a reasonable design choice.
THIS ACTUALLY
Chronicle's arc dance actually worked so well but in the context of DA'AT it falls pretty short
idk why everyone is saying it isn't 10.9. Infinite Strife, Misdeed, Vulcanus and Einherjar are easier than this.
many of them would be like ~12.5 and saying this is easy after getting EX or EX+ on this
10+치고는 쉬운 듯
Wow! What a nice 10! …Wait, what do you mean this is a 10+?
Jokes aside, this chart feels…very “average”, you could say. The charts didn’t give me any memorable points. If it was charted with more multifinger or have the drop charted to more of the background synth as well, this could’ve been much more memorable.
This right now is a 10.5, I wonder if it’s because there are difficulty restrictions before charts are made…?
i need 3000 dollars to feed my kids please CliaFront.............
10.5??????
The patterns are wayyy too fast bruh
@@renka-chan9213 no. He has a reason. Most patterns look like 10 but only faster. The only exception is the flute part, which is the only hardest part
Bro’s comparing this to charts like Qovat 😂
This is 10.8-10.9
@@FreshO2 most of the people in community hates this chart as it is under leveled, which shed be 10.7-10.8
Those arcs in the middle feels so bland tbh
Shitty boring pattern.
How disappointed.