Yeah, in my head I remember this game's graphics being like HD next gen graphics, but seeing it now after all these years, is just... wow. We've come a long way.
Everything about this game was flawless. The graphics, the mechanics, the storyline, all the way down to the sounds of each gun firing. The Ps2 and the original Xbox had the best games ever. Fight me.
I remember my mom buying me this game when I was a kid and I was too scared to play it bc it starts u out alone. So I just used to watch her play instead. Good times
Easily the best PS2 graphics I had ever seen when it came out. Was so happy to get through this game on the hardest difficulty as it had that old school difficulty that made it tough as nails.
BLACK is one of the greatest video games of all time, absolutely stunning looking on a PS2 and even better on a Xbox. The soundtrack and sound design is masterfully done.
A game far ahead of its time. It still holds up. despite being 15 years old. Its a damn shame that they didnt make a sequel, but gave us Bodycount instead.
What an amazing game and way ahead of its time. I remember 10 years ago, during summer break, I’d go to the store and get me a bunch of snacks and then played this for hours and hours. I hope for a remaster.
This game is a great example of if you put the right amount of time and effort into a game it can look as great as next gen...and loved the sound of this game
@@Volition_To_The_Max 2006, February, when games could not yet boast of explosions and destruction, detail like this game, after this game these standards started to appear.
@@berniedegraff5322 I don’t think there is. But if you beat the game, you unlock infinite ammo (silver weapons) for every difficulty level below what you beat it on. And you unlock an M16 with a grenade launcher attachment when you beat black ops mode. Hopefully that helps!
I completed Black for the first time recently, and it's truly a spectacular game. True, it lacks a few gameplay mechanics that dates it a bit, such as no jump or sprint buttons, but for the most part, the gameplay feels very modern and intuitive. The set pieces, graphics, and sound design are all fantastic as well. I'm not even a huge FPS fan, but this game kept me interested throughout the whole playthrough. Oh, and Black can be pretty dang tough, even on the 'easy' setting.
Lacking these mechanics are actually what makes this game so legendary, back in the days i truly thought this was the future of shooters, specially with EA that was nailing every game they touched from 2005-2007, with Black, FIFA07 and NFSMW/Bornout, but we all know how that went.
it would've been a great hit if they released it on PC as well, people mostly prefer playing shooters on mouse and keyboard and this game was fairly hard on higher difficulties some levels were like very frustrating I rmb back in the day would've been much better with mouse and keyboard on a PC
I remember playing this as a kid and being shocked at how good the graphics were for that time era of gaming. It really was ahead of its time and clearly set a standard that Black ops 1&2 followed. The similarities are striking!
Just one of those days when you’re taking a dump and TH-cam shows you something that gives you so much nostalgia that you know how you wana spend your night.
When game developers made games like masterpieces, powerful and emotional, put true effort into the game and they become experiences and genuinely good games
I would give anything to have this game in my hands again and to be able to play. I probably put in a million hours constantly playing this game. The whole bridge part was the best damn part.
This game was cutting edge af. They got everything out of the ps2 they could with it graphics wise. The game play, story, graphics, the destructible environment, collision detection, hit markers, THE GUNS (which is what this gem was all about), rounds remaining counter had a neato little feature (as the rounds were expended, they would "eject" from the counter), speaking of the guns (having the ability to select fire, equip suppressors to nearly every weapon, you could gold/silver said weapons), sounds were absolutely awesome (immersive af). It was a bit obscure in that they didn't do much marketing for it. It was one of the last games in the ps2s lineup. With the 3 debuting not long after this came out, not many knew about this game let alone played it. They didn't bother with a 2 player mode or anything. Nothing but a one player campaign mode, which allowed them to dedicate all their memory and and ram towards the graphics. To me this was a preview of what ps3 was going to be. The graphics were not far off from what we got with the 3. This game did not get the credit, acclaim, praise, support it should have. It was a true 💎. The lucky few that got to experience it know what I'm talking about. They should absolutely reboot this for the ps5.
Awesome! What a game this is. The mechanics of it are perfection. So underrated. Getting into the bunker at the end to that save point and then progressing deeper is one of the hardest things I’ve ever done in a video game.
The last bunker section took me weeks on hardest difficulty, when you get all the guns and ammo resupply before you go in you think its plenty....................... and all of a sudden you're out of ammo and you still haven't even taken out the pill boxes 😂😂 frustrating but when you cleared it. Man it was a sense of achievement. What a game!
I always switched to single shot and got headshots whenever possible. The guys died so much quicker that way. I never did find out where the last destructive objective was in the very first mission. It drove me nuts not fully completing the game. Anyone else remember that?
Great game with excellent gameplay, suspense, graphics and sound. I completed it a couple of times. Headshot everything! If I recall the last stage was in a bunker complex. A large room, factory size, with lots of the body armour protected gunmen. You had to clear the room. Saving RPGs for the armoured guys was the way through I think. There was also a heavy calibre handgun which helped. 🇬🇧👍
Just discovered this game on a Moded original Xbox I bought from my brother friend it has over 10 thousand games on it. Every home console ever made from late 70s to mid 2000s and every arcade game made from same time period. It’s sick
Watching this video I cannot believe I was like 2 enemies away from beating this thing back in the day. This game was HARD. But fun. I may have to break this one out again.
how this game did not turn out into a series is beyond me. This was the shit back then. If you wanted great gameplay, bangning graphics, smooth animations, destrictible environments- Black had it all.
Played and completed this back in the day on PS2. My oh my, what a game! ..the final level, what a place to clear, hard as nails. The whole game felt tough, compared to the likes of Modern Warfare. The only aspect of Black that i thought the game could have done without, were the between level live action sequences. Doubt those were EA's idea ;P
@@darassylmoniakam and? It's a fun shooter that was like another person said peak ps2. Just because every game isn't like modern cod doesn't mean it's bad
Fun Fact: The sound of the The MP5 in this game is the same sound as the MP5 John McClane uses in Die Hard. This game slaps so hard. Wish Criterion did another one.
I've been re-building my old ps2 collection and this is next on the list to pick up :D such a great game and a huge achievement on the PS2 graphically!
It’s 2023 , I remember when i play this game at 2009 for the first time , old days & for me it’s the only game have a awesome graphic in ps2 games I still play this game again every month per year I was thinking that they will made the second season but they didn’t :((
Playing this on my PS2 right now. Such an amazing game. My only gripe is that I’d love to be able to choose my gun before each mission. Other than that, 10/10. If you haven’t played BLACK, you need to!
Getting an Xbox One or Xbox Series S/X (I recommend Series consoles) and play the OG either with an EA Play subscription, Game Pass Ultimate or buying the game
[2022] every time I watch this video I get excited this song captured my childhood many years will pass and I will always come back here to remember every moment we played together my dear daddy I love you❤👊😭
Este foi um dos melhores jogos que já joguei,eu sentia muita adrenalina com ele,jogava por varias vezes,cada missão ficava mais sensacional para mim,e gostava muito quando aparecia armas novas,não jogava muito bem naquele tempo,mas mesmo assim consegui completa-lo,os gráficos e sons me impressionavam,infelizmente o jogo foi deixado de lado,se tivesse a continuação deste jogo seria muito bom.
This was the first FPS that I played and, holy shit was I blown away. That I could snipe, strafe, and go balls out guns blazing? And the graphics were so impressive!
i had this game when my dad bought me a ps2 at 7 years old. When i play this game i still remember how scared i was. i scared of shooting and wars. i only shot the first two guy and then i off the console 🤣
![BLACK Speedrun in [40:17.04] Former World Record](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Xy5yVmfvP0k/mqdefault.jpg)
![BLACK Speedrun in [40:17.04] Former World Record](/img/tr.png)
This game was before it’s time. The graphics, sound, explosions…. Everything was on point
one of few games EA did a decent job on
Yeah, in my head I remember this game's graphics being like HD next gen graphics, but seeing it now after all these years, is just... wow. We've come a long way.
@@killer1479 back then, Every once in a while, EA actually gave a shit and didn't just take your money.
@@KarthanRouge We've come a long way on one spectrum, and regressed on another I would say.
except for the ugly gun designs.
If ever there was a game that deserved both a remaster and a sequel, it's this one. Honestly one of the best first person shooters I've ever played.
You can play it on the newest Xbox. Not sure if it was remastered but it looked really good.
It’s available on gamepass. It’s not a remaster but the nostalgia alone carries it along well
I would prefer remake, remastered will not worth in 2022
Facts
@@Thecelestial1 It's literally a remaster on XSX.
Everything about this game was flawless. The graphics, the mechanics, the storyline, all the way down to the sounds of each gun firing. The Ps2 and the original Xbox had the best games ever. Fight me.
@jasiothemity My point still stands.
@jasiothemity r u comparing a Xbox 1 to ps2
@jasiothemity ok cool
The story? Lol who played Black for its story, it was just an excuse to shoot bad guys.
@jas the mity not graphics wise, original xbox outdid ps2 by far look at Glitch.
I remember my mom buying me this game when I was a kid and I was too scared to play it bc it starts u out alone. So I just used to watch her play instead. Good times
Good times
W mom
You have a cool mom
BEST TIMES
the only thing I can relate to this is " was too scared to play it bc it starts u out alone" HAHA
I finally found this game after so many years of searching. This brings back so many good memories it brings tears to my eyes
Yeah. Luckily, I found 2 of em at my local store. Looking for Scarface. Usually, there's at least 1 copy. And no Black.
My favourite shoot up game ever did they do a second one to this?
@@shadowwalkers1899 sadly no
I could never make it past the 2nd mission, then again I was young lol. Still love this gave tho because it started my love for games.
@@elijahtaylor8237 play it again it's such a awesome game
Easily the best PS2 graphics I had ever seen when it came out. Was so happy to get through this game on the hardest difficulty as it had that old school difficulty that made it tough as nails.
Yip I loved it so much played all difficulties too. Just bought it again.
I beat it on black difficulty i'm proud of that
i was sure this was a PS3 game, wow
@@crepesandwafles It does look like an early X360/PS3 game which is impressive
@@alvzcizzler Yup it does..
Back when EA made games and not the same micro transaction vomit today
@Commander Bly how so? They have no evil practices from then to my knowledge .
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@@PPPPPPPP8 lol
They buy and dissolve good companies like criterion or pandemic
I remember playing this when it first came out thinking holy shit these graphics are amazing. I’ve never seen nothing like this before
LOL u kidding? Half life 2 dude
It came out originally on consoles. Relax.
Yeah right this was an amazing game way ahead of its time
@@TheFbiFilesRepeat half life isn't the only game in existence
@@pol2299 Thanks! For a second there, I thought half life was the only game ever made. Who knew?!
BLACK is one of the greatest video games of all time, absolutely stunning looking on a PS2 and even better on a Xbox. The soundtrack and sound design is masterfully done.
The grandaddy of all black ops games. And it's still one of my favorites.
A game far ahead of its time. It still holds up. despite being 15 years old. Its a damn shame that they didnt make a sequel, but gave us Bodycount instead.
bc sucked big time.
Black on ps2 looks better than Bodycount on the 360.
Sequel is now confirmed 😁
@@stevenfletcher586 do you have a source on that, sir?
@@stevenfletcher586 Source? SOURCE?
Now this is what a FPS is meant to be. That Audio sfx of the guns stays with me to this day. A++
The audio was awesome!
I remember dying alot in this game as a kid, good times
Yep 🤣
Same bro, good old days I also played this game as a kid with my ps2🤣😭
My friends died and handed me the controller at parties and I finished the game usually. I would have been 19 in 2007
@@MatthewStout That's great!
It’s basically jumping from frying pan to frying pan finally, dropping into the fire. My heart couldn’t handle this game now lol.
Played this game to death,so freaking underrated and I still don't understand why it never got a sequel,damn near a perfect fps.
What an amazing game and way ahead of its time. I remember 10 years ago, during summer break, I’d go to the store and get me a bunch of snacks and then played this for hours and hours. I hope for a remaster.
This game is a great example of if you put the right amount of time and effort into a game it can look as great as next gen...and loved the sound of this game
Yep. Black could easily be mistaken for a PS3 title.
Next gen? Lol
@@willthorson4543 next generation consoles
An underrated classic. The thrills are massive and feel real.
Brings back great memories! I used to play this game every day after work . It was the best stress relief ever!
By far the most influential game I've ever played, it set the standard for every game after!!
Amazing game, but definitely not *that* revolutionary.
@@Volition_To_The_Max 2006, February, when games could not yet boast of explosions and destruction, detail like this game, after this game these standards started to appear.
A game beyond it's time
Indeed..
Is there a cheat for infinite health??
Agreed ... its look like advance in next gen in 2006
@@berniedegraff5322 I don’t think there is. But if you beat the game, you unlock infinite ammo (silver weapons) for every difficulty level below what you beat it on. And you unlock an M16 with a grenade launcher attachment when you beat black ops mode.
Hopefully that helps!
And everybody hates Ea people forget this games that they made
The sound on this game was absolutely next level. I remember being completely obsessed with this game right when it came out.
My expectations for the graphics were 4K.
Back then I thought *"Ooh man! This game is SO REALISTIC!"*
When i was 12 i was so amazed about the graphics but now as a adult I’m amazed it really is something!
I was a kid when I played this on my ps2…..It brings so much nostalgia
The graphics would feel so real and every mission was intense
Good times😀
Same
I completed Black for the first time recently, and it's truly a spectacular game. True, it lacks a few gameplay mechanics that dates it a bit, such as no jump or sprint buttons, but for the most part, the gameplay feels very modern and intuitive. The set pieces, graphics, and sound design are all fantastic as well. I'm not even a huge FPS fan, but this game kept me interested throughout the whole playthrough. Oh, and Black can be pretty dang tough, even on the 'easy' setting.
Lacking these mechanics are actually what makes this game so legendary, back in the days i truly thought this was the future of shooters, specially with EA that was nailing every game they touched from 2005-2007, with Black, FIFA07 and NFSMW/Bornout, but we all know how that went.
Those shotgun dudes was the fn worst!! My 1st fps game ever, I literally stayed up all night everyday playing this until i beat it.
Oh my Goodness. This was one of THEE BEST Games ever. The sound of the guns was epic and story play immaculate. Need to Remake this Game ASAP 😁👍🔥
2 hardest & annoying enemies are the Jason looking guys & the riot shield guys.
Severely underrated game. This doesn't even need a remaster, just port the damn thing.
It’s so crazy how I remember this game in HD😂😂
It is in HD, the fuck are you laughing about?
Put it on expert level, and this game is crazy hard
I played it on special ops ... that pops up after you finish the game on expert
it would've been a great hit if they released it on PC as well, people mostly prefer playing shooters on mouse and keyboard and this game was fairly hard on higher difficulties some levels were like very frustrating I rmb back in the day would've been much better with mouse and keyboard on a PC
@@DownloadARevolt20 becouse You needed to get all secondary objectives
I can't imagine how tough that is. I could barely beat it on 'easy.'
The art direction of this game is very peculiar. You know, the colors!
Really fantastic that Michael Giacchino did the music for this game. He's a composer that also made a lot of soundtracks for Disney and Marvel movies
I remember playing this as a kid and being shocked at how good the graphics were for that time era of gaming.
It really was ahead of its time and clearly set a standard that Black ops 1&2 followed.
The similarities are striking!
Because of my strong craving for this game I am buying the CD and a PS2 console just to play it again and enjoy the Nostalgia!
My thoughts exactly...I was thinking to buy a ps2 for this game and a couple other titles..
@@ALXD1974 *Better use a emulator to play it in higher-quality and copy ur games on pc.*
Tough, very tough, that’s all I remember, there was a Sniper in a church tower when you get to an open field of graves, that shit was hard.
I remember being absolutely blown away by this game when it first came out, truly epic.
Just one of those days when you’re taking a dump and TH-cam shows you something that gives you so much nostalgia that you know how you wana spend your night.
It’s my favorite game and the best game I’ve ever played. I can’t describe how good it was, but I’m sure I have played it over 50 times❤️
God I have been searching for this game for years. I remember it being ridiculously hard. I’d spend countless hours trying to clear one level of it.
Nah, you just sucked.
I come to back to watch this game sometimes cuz I just forget how amazing this game was.
I remember playing this when I was 12.
When game developers made games like masterpieces, powerful and emotional, put true effort into the game and they become experiences and genuinely good games
This game was CoD before Cod was popular. It's a shame this game never became a franchise
I would give anything to have this game in my hands again and to be able to play. I probably put in a million hours constantly playing this game. The whole bridge part was the best damn part.
Great game man i love to play it no matter what happen I can't feel boring from playing this game 😊
The best game I played is Black. Things go, but the memories remain😣💔
This game was cutting edge af. They got everything out of the ps2 they could with it graphics wise. The game play, story, graphics, the destructible environment, collision detection, hit markers, THE GUNS (which is what this gem was all about), rounds remaining counter had a neato little feature (as the rounds were expended, they would "eject" from the counter), speaking of the guns (having the ability to select fire, equip suppressors to nearly every weapon, you could gold/silver said weapons), sounds were absolutely awesome (immersive af). It was a bit obscure in that they didn't do much marketing for it. It was one of the last games in the ps2s lineup. With the 3 debuting not long after this came out, not many knew about this game let alone played it. They didn't bother with a 2 player mode or anything. Nothing but a one player campaign mode, which allowed them to dedicate all their memory and and ram towards the graphics. To me this was a preview of what ps3 was going to be. The graphics were not far off from what we got with the 3. This game did not get the credit, acclaim, praise, support it should have. It was a true 💎. The lucky few that got to experience it know what I'm talking about. They should absolutely reboot this for the ps5.
Just another amazing game that most likely never is going to get a remaster.
This game needs a good remake. This was a game ahead of its time.
Awesome! What a game this is. The mechanics of it are perfection. So underrated. Getting into the bunker at the end to that save point and then progressing deeper is one of the hardest things I’ve ever done in a video game.
The last bunker section took me weeks on hardest difficulty, when you get all the guns and ammo resupply before you go in you think its plenty....................... and all of a sudden you're out of ammo and you still haven't even taken out the pill boxes 😂😂 frustrating but when you cleared it. Man it was a sense of achievement. What a game!
I always switched to single shot and got headshots whenever possible. The guys died so much quicker that way. I never did find out where the last destructive objective was in the very first mission. It drove me nuts not fully completing the game. Anyone else remember that?
Great game with excellent gameplay, suspense, graphics and sound. I completed it a couple of times. Headshot everything! If I recall the last stage was in a bunker complex. A large room, factory size, with lots of the body armour protected gunmen. You had to clear the room. Saving RPGs for the armoured guys was the way through I think. There was also a heavy calibre handgun which helped.
🇬🇧👍
@@Surv1ve_Thrive its ghameplay wasn't so good.
Just discovered this game on a Moded original Xbox I bought from my brother friend it has over 10 thousand games on it. Every home console ever made from late 70s to mid 2000s and every arcade game made from same time period. It’s sick
This game was the PS2 and Xbox last hurrah. It really showed what they could do, before the next Gen consoles gained momentum
Best game I’ve ever played and hoped and dreamed, and prayed that they do a remake or a sequel.
Watching this video I cannot believe I was like 2 enemies away from beating this thing back in the day. This game was HARD. But fun. I may have to break this one out again.
Remaster needed
No cap
This game had graphics, sounds, animations, and satisfying gunplay that I never found in any shooter of its era. I thoroughly enjoyed this game.
how this game did not turn out into a series is beyond me. This was the shit back then. If you wanted great gameplay, bangning graphics, smooth animations, destrictible environments- Black had it all.
I remember playing this as a kid. I sucked ass at it but i enjoyed soaking in the atmosphere
Played and completed this back in the day on PS2. My oh my, what a game! ..the final level, what a place to clear, hard as nails. The whole game felt tough, compared to the likes of Modern Warfare. The only aspect of Black that i thought the game could have done without, were the between level live action sequences. Doubt those were EA's idea ;P
Bro it's 2nd part was also going to come but..... Dunno why it doesn't came
@@lalita6630 I bet Criterion Software wanted to do a Black 2, but EA probably said no, as Criterion's Burnout games possibly made more $$
This was peak PS2. Released just before third gen consoles, it squeezed every ounce of performance out of the console!
No boss fight, no good ending. just the same enemies over over
@@darassylmoniakam and? It's a fun shooter that was like another person said peak ps2. Just because every game isn't like modern cod doesn't mean it's bad
Fun Fact: The sound of the The MP5 in this game is the same sound as the MP5 John McClane uses in Die Hard.
This game slaps so hard. Wish Criterion did another one.
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Hero
I've been re-building my old ps2 collection and this is next on the list to pick up :D such a great game and a huge achievement on the PS2 graphically!
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Bro this game is so fucking underrated it never got the recognition it deserved
This game was ahead of its time. I remember renting this at blockbuster and keeping it because it was so good.
It’s 2023 , I remember when i play this game at 2009 for the first time , old days & for me it’s the only game have a awesome graphic in ps2 games
I still play this game again every month per year
I was thinking that they will made the second season but they didn’t :((
كل ماسمع مسيقة هاي لعبه اضل ابكي احس في حنين للماضي
ايام جميلة راحت💔😢
@@Ibrahim-alg-h1e اي والله 🥺
I loved this game with the sound effects and the explosions would vibrate the whole room.
I remember playing this on my aunt's ps2
This game was my childhood 💯 mental of honor all these games was A1 🔥🔥
This was a quality game, immersive and great to play. It was one of the few I remember which had windows being blown out etc.
Ah ! 2007 The Good Old Times on Playstation 2. I've played the game for hours and I'll still play it today. Riot response Urban Chaos with Killcam
when a game developer give their heart to build a masterpiece.. ❤
I remember this game more realistic when I was younger we've been spoiled by modern game graphics, this game was ahead of it's time 🙏🏼 .
I love this game. I still have my PS2 and play this game from time to time. This and The Suffering are my favorite games for PS2.
Thanks this bring back memories 😊
Damn.. This game give me a lot of memories😞
I'm a marine and navy SEAL graduate. I can tell you this game prepared me for the hard-core missions I've accomplished
Damn this game.. Such a masterpiece, it was my favorite game when i was a kid good old times man.
Playing this on my PS2 right now. Such an amazing game. My only gripe is that I’d love to be able to choose my gun before each mission. Other than that, 10/10.
If you haven’t played BLACK, you need to!
The most annoying part in the game is that enemies take too long to die
Brings back memories of when games where released complete. No updates and B.S dlc’s.
right this game feel like a fair sized dish versus what they make you pay for now
This game was so fun to play. Wish there was a remastered version so we could play on newer consoles.
Getting an Xbox One or Xbox Series S/X (I recommend Series consoles) and play the OG either with an EA Play subscription, Game Pass Ultimate or buying the game
[2022] every time I watch this video I get excited this song captured my childhood many years will pass and I will always come back here to remember every moment we played together my dear daddy I love you❤👊😭
Literally just found it in 2020
やったなぁ〜…このゲーム 凄く面白かった 最後にはスキルアップして、全ての武器が無限で使えるので RPG ロケットランチャーで片っ端から破壊して駆逐していった😂大好きなゲームでしたね😄
Este foi um dos melhores jogos que já joguei,eu sentia muita adrenalina com ele,jogava por varias vezes,cada missão ficava mais sensacional para mim,e gostava muito quando aparecia armas novas,não jogava muito bem naquele tempo,mas mesmo assim consegui completa-lo,os gráficos e sons me impressionavam,infelizmente o jogo foi deixado de lado,se tivesse a continuação deste jogo seria muito bom.
Bro this is clearly the best shooter game in many years, many guns, amazing graphics and very nice story. Change my mind
This was the first FPS that I played and, holy shit was I blown away. That I could snipe, strafe, and go balls out guns blazing? And the graphics were so impressive!
it was the same ever fps i played too and it is still one of my favorites
My fave PS2 FPS game. Played through loads of times. The destruction for the time was awesome.
Played this game on ps2 loved every bit of it 👏 👌
Gotta love the left handed AK!
Definitely should do a part 2 to this! With more and better guns!
Miss this game… is there anything comparable now-a-days? Would love some suggestions
Hard to believe this was a ps2 game. Looks like an early ps3 game.
i had this game when my dad bought me a ps2 at 7 years old. When i play this game i still remember how scared i was. i scared of shooting and wars. i only shot the first two guy and then i off the console 🤣
This Game was amazing and it still is ❤❤😂🎉
Okay, this game still looks so amazing
I remember it being crazy hard when it came! Had had to replay every mission least five times before clearing :P