Thanks for the excellent review! I have a question about your i2s vs USB findings. With i2s the resource device is responsible for the timing (in this case the clocks of the eversolo dmp-a8). USB is asynchronous (meaning that the timing and buffering is determined by the clocks of the receiving Topping DAC). So, it is not a given that i2s always sounds better. Do you mean the i2s sounds better in your case because the clocks of the Eversolo are better than the Topping? Both have expensive (femto) clocks, so the timing in both should be excellent. Also the USB output of the Eversolo is very clean and the USB input of the Topping is very clean also. I2s is completely dependent of the quality of the source device. In your review you make it sound if i2s is always superior over USB which is IMHO not always the case.
Hey, my pleasure! 1) S/PDIF and USB for that matter are horrendously poorly designed interfaces, because they are combining the clock and audio coding onto the same signal (I2S has separate lanes for the signal and clock). The receiver is supposed to recover the clock from this signal as well as extract the audio data. This turns out to be a non-trivial task, and one that almost always leaves the recovered clock contaminated with signal correlated jitter artefacts. So any clock you transmit over an S/PDIF/USB connection that is also carrying audio signals will probably be worse than any internal clock. You can reasonably (but not ideally) send a clock over an S/PDIF interface if the interface does not carry any audio signal, but even then the poor bandwidth of the interface does not lend itself to particularly accurate clock reticulation. 2) For S/PDIF and USB data transmission, you need a digital sender that packs the data and then a digital receiver sitting the DAC board end to receive S/PDIF/USB data, decoding it and then sending it to the MCU and then DAC chips. Via I2S we don't have a digital receiver on the DAC end, bypassing a chip and a digital conversion.
@@Soundnews USB audio 2 & 3 are asynchronous. I believe you are mistaken, but would like to get to the bottom of it. Early USB 1 type "B" slaves were clocked by USB 1 type "A" Masters.
@@polyglosystic. Where did you draw that conclusion from? If you are referring to my reaction: You do not know who I am, how influenceable I am and what my knowledge is about audio equipment. I would say your conclusion seems a bit premature. If you have read my reaction properly you should have digested that I question the use of DDC's in general and IIS in particular. By the way: you did listen to this reviewer, otherwise you could not have given the reaction you did. That is the way we inform ourselves. Don't assume that everyone is an audiofool and incapable of making a balanced and informed decision except for you. If your reaction was not to me, but to someone else: What I said still applies.
I have to possibility of getting a used one (although not a lot, the owner is the first user and bought it in January 2024) for around $775 / 700 euros. Would you guys say this would be a good investment for the price?
Hi, Nice review!!! I pre-ordered a Eversolo DMP-A8 and I'd like to know if adding the DX9 to the A8 worth it? For the heaphone I just bought the Chord Mojo 2. So I'm torn between sending back the Mojo 2 and buy the DX9... I'll appreciate your advice 😉
I bought Topping L30II amp last week and I am blown away by how pathetic it sounds. Tried with multiple Dacs and whatever sound the DAC gives, this amp when involved in the chain was degrading the sound by making the sound thin, flat, lacking bass and sounding un-dynamic. It was also cutting all the notes short without the natural extension of notes. I was using Xduoo-XA10 before and that amp was sounding so fuller, natural and dynamic with any Dac I connected to it. It is like night and day difference. Both amps had a complete black background with all my headphones. Also Topping amp gets way too hot like you can't touch it when in use but Xduoo XA-10 though being class A was always comfortable to touch cuz it is well ventilated. Topping amp also heats up the jack of my headphone cable when connected to it. No more topping products for me. They are only good for measurements on ASR I guess
Great review! A quick question please. For I^ (i square) connection, does a regular HDMI output from a PC or notebook work? Or, do we need a dedicated streamer?
While HDMI and I2S use the same HDMI cables, you need to use a specific I2S connection with the DX9 on top of a very specific I2S pin configuration (it's quite a mess, I2S wasn't standardized yet). HDMI out won't work, you need a DDC (digital to digital converter) or a dedicated streamer with I2S output.
For my taste (subjectivity is strong in this one), R26 is better at "making music" although I'm sure it measures worse. R26 is much closer to end-game sounding DACs, DX9 however, offers additional features (Pre & HP amp) and it also costs less. TLDR version: stick to the R26 if you already have a dedicated headphone amp or if you don't use headphones
I bought this unit after watching your review. I haven't got a lot of experience with highend headphones amps/dac. Before this unit, I used an IFI Zen dac v2. This unit opens my Edition XS 's soundstage pretty much and of course, lets me listen with higher volumes without distorting the sound coming out of the headphones. I also tried connecting it through i2s using a ddc, the only difference I heard was in the treble which is a tiny bit less grainy. Putting it in my stereo setup which is pretty resolving and comparing it through a switch to a Gustard R26 and the latter has a tuny bit more base and a tiny bit more open soundstage . Thankyou a lot for your review
Another Topping? Nope, a different Topping...THE TOPPING! ATYPICALLY gorgeous for them, very modern and impressive. Finally the term "transparent" can be used with a different meaning for Topping Dacs. The people who get this will be more than happy with their purchase and quality for their investment. Pretty sure this one is way more interesting and engaging than boring RME-ADI 2!
R26 together with S17 PRO are more "magical sounding:" (to me), getting a thick, warm, sweet sounding that is also punchier. they are also costlier together and that shouldn't be a surprise
@@SoundnewsCan the same be said about the s17 pro + smsl su-10 combination? I'm considering the dx9 vs them (Disregard the price difference in your answer) ?
Hi Soundnews, Please advise whether Topping DX9 can drive HiFiMan Susvara to its fullest potential as it is well known for being notoriously hard to drive. Does Susvara sound great with DX9 or is it just being able to drive it, but the sound is just ok? Also, please advise which filter / settings did you use to achieve the best music listening experience?
Currently using an Eversolo DMP A6 connected via RCA to a Marantz Amplifier and been looking at connecting via an external DAC. This look a great option considering the inclusion of what looks like a good headphone amplifier built in and just wondered if the improvements would be significant over the A6’s internal DAC considering you’ve reviewed both?
Thank you for all your great reviews , i watch them over and over again. I have a dx9 on its way. I think I missed ? what "'streamer only "'you would recommend for this unit. I tried llistening hard but I could not catch it.
Hey mate, thank you for your kind words! The only streamer I mentioned in the video was the EverSolo DMP-A8, but it's overkill for the DX9. If you're after an affordable one, then go with a Wiim Pro / Pro Plus
Hi and thank you for such a insightful review, you were very enthused in reviewing the DX9 as you were with the DMP-A8. I know it's subjective but out of the two which one would you say sounds best?
Hi and once again thank you for taking the time to reply to my inquiry. Like you in the end I am also a R2R devotee (Denafrips Pontus II 12th DAC with Hermes 12th DDC) while being convinced that measurements doesn't tell the whole story. That being said and highly trusting your judgement the desicion has been made as my time listening to headphones (for this I have kept it minimal-iFi Zen Can Signature, Schiit Loki+, Sennheiser HD650) is no where near time I do stereo listening. Keep on providing us with the great and detailed reviews, HAPPY LISTENING!@@Soundnews
@@SoundnewsHi! Thank you for all the details. Is it worthy in terms of sq to change my fiio k9 pro ess with the dx9? As you mentioned, in my stereo, I will probably go with the A8. But for my meze empyreans, streaming coax from the node x, what should I choose? Thank you so much!
Thanks Sandu for this well made review! I just bought one for my DCA E3 and Aune AR5000, as well as for several IEM's, looking so much forward to this unit ;-) Still small compared to a stack, feature packed, beautiful and really really powerful.
As I finde...You and Ivii as probably 2 of few the best DAC rewievers on TH-cam...... Topping DX 9 ore Gustard R23... For ATC P1+ ATC SCM 7+ 2× RELs Tzero.....conected on a good computer and not known jet...CD transport. For nearfield listening....maybe a meter from my ears Like allmost all generes of music....it depende more of a song Thank you.... Happy New Year👍🙂🍀🖖🎉🍾🥳 P.S., sure...the diference can be so small.....that +/-, can be of not realy important diferentie.
Using Topping DX9 via I2S through Denafrips IRIS DDC, XLR out to Cayin HA-3A tube amp and single ended out to HD800s. At moderate volume level it sounds like I am in the recording room next to the artist. Sounds coming in from everywhere around dead centered vocals.
Would you choose the Topping DX9 or the Fiio K9 PRO ESS? I'm interested in transparent sound from the DAC, with no added colour, and my understanding is that the K9 PRO ESS delivers on this. The configuration interface plus the remote on the DX9 are very nice. I can't say I enjoy using a mobile application to control the unit as in the K9 PRO ESS case. I use a pair of Audeze LCD-XC headphoens so the headphone amp power output is not that important. Also, I would prefer all headphone outputs to be usable at the same time.
Your Son is likely just doing what he watches his Dad do when listening to music🤣 You should tell him not to do that at school or they'll likely send him to see the nurse!
Agreed,fpga r2r better in musicality rather then delta sigma But delta sigma + tubes = ha2 its a diff story. Ops u touched bout input options.. Hmm every diff type gives a diff rates of data or signal passed. N that's facts! But i preferred analogue then digital.. Bro, have u try it with iem?? cuz it sounds unsuitable. Nice 1 frm topping.. Peace!
@@Hetsu.. if you do a double blind sound test of both of these devices and could tell the difference I’d give you everything I own. The specs and measurements are very similar so that argument is null as well.
Have you made any decision mate, I can't make up my mind either? I was going to buy the SMSL DO400, but I'm thinking about the Aune S9c, and just the DX9. Someday I'd like to reach for the Arya Organic, but for now only IEM music and a lot of ACC playing.
Another great review thank you. Which headphones would you think? The 109pros or Arya? I have the WA22 tube amp so the headphones would need to be suitable for both. Thank you for your thoughts 😊
I bought the Aune S17 through your link from your other review to use as a pre-amp to my flux volot and it sounds amazing. Now I saw this review and waiting for my DX9 to arrive to use as pre-amp on my other setup. I hope it sounds as good as the aesthetics on it look!
Just recive my unit today ! 😁 It souds so damed good 🤯🤯🤯!!! Using it with PC and Focal Clear MG headphone, it replace my ZEN DAC V2. Ok it is way more expensive, but my audiophile hears are soo pleased. Thanks for this very nice review , I can only confirm what is said in this video. So far playing Jazz, classic, metal, electro with kick ass Bass control, lot of details, textured sound and at the end emotion ! The only place I could have hear better was regarding spaciality. But I have not an once of regrets. Thanks again for this review that helped me make my mind.
Ah, thank you for the clarification. I'm wondering why higher end dacs use USB B, as opposed to USB C like dongles and entry level dacs @@billmcginley
AKM dacs are more far better than ESS if You are looking for more "human sound". ESS are little better (not much, but a better) with high tones, BUT overall AKM sounds more friendly. ESS are more technical in sound. Im in love with AKM :-).
Would you prefer this Topping in combination with the Meze Empyrean 2 over the Aune S9C Pro and why? Thanks for the review and your time :) Cheers Fonz
Empyrean 2 is tilted towards warmth and sweetness, it doesn't need an extra dose of that and that's why, the DX9 would be my choice with the Empy 2. Cheers, Sandu ;)
@@Soundnews Also if you EQ? I Eq-ed it a bit because the 6khz region was a bit too much for me .....with the Aune S9c or would you go for another dac-amp option yourself with the Emp 2 if it was up to you? Thanks for the quick response by the way :)
Hi Sandu, Love your reviews. I wanted "your personal recommendation" for a STEREO DAC (will never use headphones). I am torn between Topping DX9, Pegasus II and Aune S9C Pro and can spent up to 1200USD. I currently use Topping E50 DAC (has the same ESS 9068 chip which is in S9C though) thus the new DAC should provide a significant upgrade over my current E50. I have Roksan Caspian Amplifier powering Polk 700 floorstanders and I use Apple TV4K is my streamer.
Too bad Topping didn't allocate the extra pair of XLR and RCA connectors for a line in with the DX9. It would have been a Grand Slam. I will have to stay with separates for now.
That line “ fpga and r2r better conveys the emotion of the music better than delta chips” i have personally experienced that firsthand but didn’t know how to word it. Thank you for this review Sandu
Thank you for your reply which frankly shocked me and made me start thinking out of the box .I was leaning towards the Eversolo a6 into Denafrips Haden pre amp or the Dx9 pro
Unfortunately, after a lengthy 18min review you still missed THE key comparison that everybody was waiting for 😂 How does the DX9 DAC compare to the Eversolo A8???
Comparisons, comparisons...and again, comparisons. The 99% of emails that I'm usually getting (and ignoring 😆). Their features don't align, DX9 has a headphone amp and a very potent one, while DMP-A8 is also a streamer, music server and Roon endpoint. Apples vs oranges, really. However, as DAC only units, they are extremely close. DX9 felt by a hair more technical sounding (faster & more resolving), while DMP-A8 was smoother at the very top.
Why did you show both device next to each other multiple times, if you don‘t want to compare the DACs? Knowing that the A8 DAC is equal to the DX9 could save me an external DAC!
@@SpaceEncounter Because, as stated multiple times, the DMP-A8 was used as the streamer for the DX9 in both a stereo and head-fi setup. I can't compare apples to oranges. They have a different feature set.
@@Soundnews Let me explain: it is clear that the devices perform a slightly different range of functions, but I think I am not the only one choosing between the two, since not all these functions are needed (for example, I do not need a headphone amplifier, but I need a DAC and a good preamp, but perhaps I am also ready to replace my player if A8 sounds better to me than DX9), so the comparison in sound matters even in this case. Well, the DAC has been sorted out (thanks for the clear answer!). The question is about the preamp for the stereo system - I have heard an authoritative opinion that the A8 preamp is inferior to the rest of its part and it will be much better to use an external preamp. How would you compare the DX9 and A8 preamps?
Reviewing a DAC for 18min is too tiring for me cos you have NO yardstick to measure it against, by describing how it sounds for 18min makes even less sense, a more useful review would be comparing it against a DAC with a comparable price range.
It was far above the typical delta-sigma, anywhere near the price. He compared it with the pricey FPGA and R2R stuff, which he uses on a regular basis.
Mixed feelings. I'm sure its sounds good and the tempered glass top has novelty, but the rounded edges and aesthetics turn me off. Looks like those budget chi-fi gear from Douk audio.
4499EQ is already a quad-DAC, having separate channels for a fully differential/balanced output. 4499EX is a dual-DAC by comparison, meaning that you need two units for a fully balanced signal, but it's not the case with 4499EQ.
"The unit sounds better via IIS than USB"? -- Total nonsense. Audioscience has tested this on a flagship Gustard DAC, and found absolutely no difference in resulting signals whether USB or IIS is used.
Thanks for the excellent review! I have a question about your i2s vs USB findings. With i2s the resource device is responsible for the timing (in this case the clocks of the eversolo dmp-a8). USB is asynchronous (meaning that the timing and buffering is determined by the clocks of the receiving Topping DAC). So, it is not a given that i2s always sounds better. Do you mean the i2s sounds better in your case because the clocks of the Eversolo are better than the Topping? Both have expensive (femto) clocks, so the timing in both should be excellent. Also the USB output of the Eversolo is very clean and the USB input of the Topping is very clean also. I2s is completely dependent of the quality of the source device. In your review you make it sound if i2s is always superior over USB which is IMHO not always the case.
You are correct.
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Hey, my pleasure!
1) S/PDIF and USB for that matter are horrendously poorly designed interfaces, because they are combining the clock and audio coding onto the same signal (I2S has separate lanes for the signal and clock). The receiver is supposed to recover the clock from this signal as well as extract the audio data. This turns out to be a non-trivial task, and one that almost always leaves the recovered clock contaminated with signal correlated jitter artefacts. So any clock you transmit over an S/PDIF/USB connection that is also carrying audio signals will probably be worse than any internal clock.
You can reasonably (but not ideally) send a clock over an S/PDIF interface if the interface does not carry any audio signal, but even then the poor bandwidth of the interface does not lend itself to particularly accurate clock reticulation.
2) For S/PDIF and USB data transmission, you need a digital sender that packs the data and then a digital receiver sitting the DAC board end to receive S/PDIF/USB data, decoding it and then sending it to the MCU and then DAC chips. Via I2S we don't have a digital receiver on the DAC end, bypassing a chip and a digital conversion.
@@Soundnews
USB audio 2 & 3 are asynchronous. I believe you are mistaken, but would like to get to the bottom of it.
Early USB 1 type "B" slaves were clocked by USB 1 type "A" Masters.
So he can influence you to forking more money into buying the Eversolo. We are talking about a DAC with measuring SNR of 131dB, THD
@@polyglosystic. Where did you draw that conclusion from? If you are referring to my reaction: You do not know who I am, how influenceable I am and what my knowledge is about audio equipment. I would say your conclusion seems a bit premature. If you have read my reaction properly you should have digested that I question the use of DDC's in general and IIS in particular. By the way: you did listen to this reviewer, otherwise you could not have given the reaction you did. That is the way we inform ourselves. Don't assume that everyone is an audiofool and incapable of making a balanced and informed decision except for you.
If your reaction was not to me, but to someone else: What I said still applies.
That is a really good looking piece of equipment and rarely say that about audio equipment.
True
I really enjoy and appreciate your reviews and outlook on audio! Keep em coming!
I have to possibility of getting a used one (although not a lot, the owner is the first user and bought it in January 2024) for around $775 / 700 euros. Would you guys say this would be a good investment for the price?
Hi,
Nice review!!!
I pre-ordered a Eversolo DMP-A8 and I'd like to know if adding the DX9 to the A8 worth it?
For the heaphone I just bought the Chord Mojo 2.
So I'm torn between sending back the Mojo 2 and buy the DX9...
I'll appreciate your advice 😉
mojo 2 is the best. incomparable emotional sound
If you already ordered the A8, then stick with it. DX9 is destined (mostly) for headphone users, A8 is more for stereo heads
I see they took some design cues from the RME ADI-2 Pro Anniversary Edition! It sure is a looker.
There is some resemblance indeed, but DX9 took the DX7 PRO+ aesthetics + Aurora UI + double screens + plexiglass top plate. It's indeed quite a looker
@@Soundnews Yeah, now I want a plexiglass top for my Gustard R26 lol
No, the DX9 looks much better!
I bought Topping L30II amp last week and I am blown away by how pathetic it sounds. Tried with multiple Dacs and whatever sound the DAC gives, this amp when involved in the chain was degrading the sound by making the sound thin, flat, lacking bass and sounding un-dynamic. It was also cutting all the notes short without the natural extension of notes.
I was using Xduoo-XA10 before and that amp was sounding so fuller, natural and dynamic with any Dac I connected to it. It is like night and day difference. Both amps had a complete black background with all my headphones. Also Topping amp gets way too hot like you can't touch it when in use but Xduoo XA-10 though being class A was always comfortable to touch cuz it is well ventilated. Topping amp also heats up the jack of my headphone cable when connected to it. No more topping products for me. They are only good for measurements on ASR I guess
Hi. What would you recommend as a first choice? Topping DX9 or FiiO R9? You have a wonderful experience with both devices :)
Great review! A quick question please. For I^ (i square) connection, does a regular HDMI output from a PC or notebook work? Or, do we need a dedicated streamer?
While HDMI and I2S use the same HDMI cables, you need to use a specific I2S connection with the DX9 on top of a very specific I2S pin configuration (it's quite a mess, I2S wasn't standardized yet). HDMI out won't work, you need a DDC (digital to digital converter) or a dedicated streamer with I2S output.
@@Soundnews Thanks for the reply!
How is it compared to the R26?
R26 is the king. According to Sandu, it sits just a step below Chord Dave.
For my taste (subjectivity is strong in this one), R26 is better at "making music" although I'm sure it measures worse. R26 is much closer to end-game sounding DACs, DX9 however, offers additional features (Pre & HP amp) and it also costs less. TLDR version: stick to the R26 if you already have a dedicated headphone amp or if you don't use headphones
I bought this unit after watching your review. I haven't got a lot of experience with highend headphones amps/dac. Before this unit, I used an IFI Zen dac v2.
This unit opens my Edition XS 's soundstage pretty much and of course, lets me listen with higher volumes without distorting the sound coming out of the headphones.
I also tried connecting it through i2s using a ddc, the only difference I heard was in the treble which is a tiny bit less grainy.
Putting it in my stereo setup which is pretty resolving and comparing it through a switch to a Gustard R26 and the latter has a tuny bit more base and a tiny bit more open soundstage .
Thankyou a lot for your review
Another Topping? Nope, a different Topping...THE TOPPING! ATYPICALLY gorgeous for them, very modern and impressive. Finally the term "transparent" can be used with a different meaning for Topping Dacs. The people who get this will be more than happy with their purchase and quality for their investment. Pretty sure this one is way more interesting and engaging than boring RME-ADI 2!
🤣 made my day
The RME ADI-2 has just not the new Ak4499 Chip! And not 30 Transistors! Thats why this thing is better!
@@professorx6379 currently looking at Topping Dx9 or RME ADI-2
Looks like a few of you are preferring the Topping Dx9
How does it compare to r26 and s17pro?
R26 together with S17 PRO are more "magical sounding:" (to me), getting a thick, warm, sweet sounding that is also punchier. they are also costlier together and that shouldn't be a surprise
@@Soundnews thank you! How close is it to the above mentioned combo?
@@SoundnewsCan the same be said about the s17 pro + smsl su-10 combination? I'm considering the dx9 vs them (Disregard the price difference in your answer) ?
Hi Soundnews,
Please advise whether Topping DX9 can drive HiFiMan Susvara to its fullest potential as it is well known for being notoriously hard to drive. Does Susvara sound great with DX9 or is it just being able to drive it, but the sound is just ok? Also, please advise which filter / settings did you use to achieve the best music listening experience?
Currently using an Eversolo DMP A6 connected via RCA to a Marantz Amplifier and been looking at connecting via an external DAC. This look a great option considering the inclusion of what looks like a good headphone amplifier built in and just wondered if the improvements would be significant over the A6’s internal DAC considering you’ve reviewed both?
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I’d get it ..if it didn’t have a redundant headphone jacks ..I’m looking for a DAC upgrade in my system.
Great review 👍👍
Thank you for all your great reviews , i watch them over and over again. I have a dx9 on its way. I think I missed ? what "'streamer only "'you would recommend for this unit. I tried llistening hard but I could not catch it.
Hey mate, thank you for your kind words! The only streamer I mentioned in the video was the EverSolo DMP-A8, but it's overkill for the DX9. If you're after an affordable one, then go with a Wiim Pro / Pro Plus
Hi and thank you for such a insightful review, you were very enthused in reviewing the DX9 as you were with the DMP-A8. I know it's subjective but out of the two which one would you say sounds best?
Hey,
It's simple: if you use headphones, then stick with DX9 and if you need an all-in-one in your stereo, then DMP-A8 would be my choice.
Hi and once again thank you for taking the time to reply to my inquiry. Like you in the end I am also a R2R devotee (Denafrips Pontus II 12th DAC with Hermes 12th DDC) while being convinced that measurements doesn't tell the whole story. That being said and highly trusting your judgement the desicion has been made as my time listening to headphones (for this I have kept it minimal-iFi Zen Can Signature, Schiit Loki+, Sennheiser HD650) is no where near time I do stereo listening.
Keep on providing us with the great and detailed reviews, HAPPY LISTENING!@@Soundnews
@@SoundnewsHi! Thank you for all the details. Is it worthy in terms of sq to change my fiio k9 pro ess with the dx9? As you mentioned, in my stereo, I will probably go with the A8. But for my meze empyreans, streaming coax from the node x, what should I choose? Thank you so much!
Could you share a link for a good i2s cable?
I use an OG Audioquest Diamond (these are no longer made), any HDMI cable with a nicer isolation should do the trick.
Thanks Sandu for this well made review! I just bought one for my DCA E3 and Aune AR5000, as well as for several IEM's, looking so much forward to this unit ;-) Still small compared to a stack, feature packed, beautiful and really really powerful.
As I finde...You and Ivii as probably 2 of few the best DAC rewievers on TH-cam......
Topping DX 9 ore Gustard R23...
For ATC P1+ ATC SCM 7+ 2× RELs Tzero.....conected on a good computer and not known jet...CD transport.
For nearfield listening....maybe a meter from my ears
Like allmost all generes of music....it depende more of a song
Thank you....
Happy New Year👍🙂🍀🖖🎉🍾🥳
P.S., sure...the diference can be so small.....that +/-, can be of not realy important diferentie.
Using Topping DX9 via I2S through Denafrips IRIS DDC, XLR out to Cayin HA-3A tube amp and single ended out to HD800s. At moderate volume level it sounds like I am in the recording room next to the artist. Sounds coming in from everywhere around dead centered vocals.
Can you give opinion on choosing this vs smsl su-10 + aune s17 pro ? I'll greatly appreciate your feedback on this as I'm considering which to buy
I would love that comparison too
This vs A26?
This or fiio k9 pro ess?
Would you choose the Topping DX9 or the Fiio K9 PRO ESS? I'm interested in transparent sound from the DAC, with no added colour, and my understanding is that the K9 PRO ESS delivers on this. The configuration interface plus the remote on the DX9 are very nice. I can't say I enjoy using a mobile application to control the unit as in the K9 PRO ESS case. I use a pair of Audeze LCD-XC headphoens so the headphone amp power output is not that important. Also, I would prefer all headphone outputs to be usable at the same time.
I also have Fiio K9 PRO ESS and very interested if DX9 worth it.
I prefer darker sounding akm chips to brighter Ess chips
Can i ask how is the noise floor with sensitive iems on the topping dx9
Your Son is likely just doing what he watches his Dad do when listening to music🤣 You should tell him not to do that at school or they'll likely send him to see the nurse!
Agreed,fpga r2r better in musicality rather then delta sigma But delta sigma + tubes = ha2 its a diff story. Ops u touched bout input options.. Hmm every diff type gives a diff rates of data or signal passed. N that's facts! But i preferred analogue then digital.. Bro, have u try it with iem?? cuz it sounds unsuitable. Nice 1 frm topping.. Peace!
No reason to get this over an adi-2 the features are so much better
Sound > features
@@Hetsu.. if you do a double blind sound test of both of these devices and could tell the difference I’d give you everything I own. The specs and measurements are very similar so that argument is null as well.
@@s7robe297 have fun being deaf, ignorance is bliss.
@@s7robe297 please get your ears checked
Great stuff! What cables are you using in this video?
How is the volume knob? Is this plastic or metal? How is tactility?
Was just about to pull the trigger on a aune s17 pro after your review of that now im conflicted. Too many options.
I was curious about this as well. But I wouldn't be worried. You can always sell that AUNE in a millisecond.
S17 PRO is just a headphone amp and nothing more and yes, it's still better as one. DX7 is primarily a DAC and then a headphone amp and preamp.
What do you mean USB connection doesn’t have a particular sound? It’s a digital connection? Not analog?
Thank you for the video.
What do you mean by 9:16 ? I quite didn't get what ear flapping meant 😅
He meant it was very very loud so his ears hurt
how would you compare this to Aune S9c pro? I am planning to upgrade from Aune X1s GT, and I am indecisive between S9c pro and DX9.
Have you made any decision mate, I can't make up my mind either?
I was going to buy the SMSL DO400, but I'm thinking about the Aune S9c, and just the DX9.
Someday I'd like to reach for the Arya Organic, but for now only IEM music and a lot of ACC playing.
BUT, where is the LINE-IN? I don't just want to listen to music from the internet with my headphones, I also want to listen to vinyl.
I wonder if they'll bring out a similar product with line-in this year
Another great review thank you. Which headphones would you think? The 109pros or Arya? I have the WA22 tube amp so the headphones would need to be suitable for both. Thank you for your thoughts 😊
Hey, Arya Organic would be my choice - more technical than the 109 Pros, yet as engaging and "organic" sounding.
Did you test is as an all-in-one with streaming services? I mean that's how most folks will use it, right?
DX9 doesn't have "streaming services", but I've tested it an all-in-one indeed (DAC + headphone amp and then as a DAC + Preamp in my stereo)
@@Soundnews you don't get it all then☺️
I bought the Aune S17 through your link from your other review to use as a pre-amp to my flux volot and it sounds amazing. Now I saw this review and waiting for my DX9 to arrive to use as pre-amp on my other setup. I hope it sounds as good as the aesthetics on it look!
Have you gotten to try it yet? I’m interested in this but no way to test it
Yes please let us know
I have the Aune S9c pro. How does it compare to the dx9?
my go to channel for audio equipment
The design is a statement but I struggle with it...think over time I´m getting tired of it 🤔 I prefer something classic and timeless 😊
Would this pair well with the Tungsten?
Just recive my unit today ! 😁 It souds so damed good 🤯🤯🤯!!! Using it with PC and Focal Clear MG headphone, it replace my ZEN DAC V2. Ok it is way more expensive, but my audiophile hears are soo pleased. Thanks for this very nice review , I can only confirm what is said in this video. So far playing Jazz, classic, metal, electro with kick ass Bass control, lot of details, textured sound and at the end emotion ! The only place I could have hear better was regarding spaciality. But I have not an once of regrets. Thanks again for this review that helped me make my mind.
I am using a zen stack at the moment. I love the bass features on the zen stack. How does it compare with the topping?
@@randallkubiszewski6908 Upgrade to zen dac sig v2, with the ipower2 5v, and an ifi ipurfier3 and youll be set.
Awesomeness! The aesthetic is 🔥🔥🔥
это не реклама а просто честное мнение
The DX9 outperforms the RME ADI-2 DAC and looks a lot better ❤
I was ready to pull the trigger on the RME ADI-2. I've never seen a comparison of the two
DX9 is only a little more expensive than D70/A90 pro sabre stack, since they are using the same displays i wonder how it compares to them as a pair
The top opening looks awesome. Thanks for sharing.
As a newbie, I'm wondering where's the usb c port to connect your phone.
Welcome! You will need a cable that has a c connection on one end and B on the other.
Ah, thank you for the clarification. I'm wondering why higher end dacs use USB B, as opposed to USB C like dongles and entry level dacs @@billmcginley
5:10 Error Time: the A6 has no I2S output, only the A8
And don‘t forget to assess sibilance control of the DAC, it was missing.
Mine A6 Master Edition as an I2S output...
AKM dacs are more far better than ESS if You are looking for more "human sound". ESS are little better (not much, but a better) with high tones, BUT overall AKM sounds more friendly. ESS are more technical in sound. Im in love with AKM :-).
Would you prefer this Topping in combination with the Meze Empyrean 2 over the Aune S9C Pro and why? Thanks for the review and your time :) Cheers Fonz
Empyrean 2 is tilted towards warmth and sweetness, it doesn't need an extra dose of that and that's why, the DX9 would be my choice with the Empy 2. Cheers, Sandu ;)
@@Soundnews Also if you EQ? I Eq-ed it a bit because the 6khz region was a bit too much for me .....with the Aune S9c or would you go for another dac-amp option yourself with the Emp 2 if it was up to you? Thanks for the quick response by the way :)
Hi Sandu, Love your reviews. I wanted "your personal recommendation" for a STEREO DAC (will never use headphones). I am torn between Topping DX9, Pegasus II and Aune S9C Pro and can spent up to 1200USD. I currently use Topping E50 DAC (has the same ESS 9068 chip which is in S9C though) thus the new DAC should provide a significant upgrade over my current E50. I have Roksan Caspian Amplifier powering Polk 700 floorstanders and I use Apple TV4K is my streamer.
Too bad Topping didn't allocate the extra pair of XLR and RCA connectors for a line in with the DX9. It would have been a Grand Slam. I will have to stay with separates for now.
my mom always said not to buy all-in-one type hifi gear. Also said that always go with heavier one 😂
My mom said to never listen to strangers, but yeah, the heavier = the better. Always
That line “ fpga and r2r better conveys the emotion of the music better than delta chips” i have personally experienced that firsthand but didn’t know how to word it. Thank you for this review Sandu
I have DX9 and its good sound. Its on the same level then my previous Topping D90se\A90D, but it looks better)
Can I add a headphone amp and use it as a dac only? Please tell
Is this Roon ready?
Great review, can u tell how was the pairing with HD800s? (Comparisons with TA26 tube amp? -xduoo)
how is this compared to RME ADI DAC ? please i cant decide btw the two
What's the device at the top right at 0:16..?
EverSolo DMP-A8
Thank you for your reply which frankly shocked me and made me start thinking out of the box .I was leaning towards the Eversolo a6 into Denafrips Haden pre amp or the Dx9 pro
Thanks for the review. What filter setting do you recommend?
what would be a better fit? Topping Dx9 or RME Adi-2?
What power cord did you have connected to the dx9 in the b reels?
This and Matrix x sabre 3 are 2 best looking audio devices i ever seen! Pictures dont do them justice.
I invested this since 2017 when I have this down on a piece of paper and told my friend it's gonna be the future of music streaming.
Great review. I’m planning a PRE90 to improve things and this DX9 is tempting but a little over the budget.
Will it be powerful enough for the he6se v2?
nice video, can you recommend it for my ATC SCM11?
Brzmienie jest ciepłe czy analityczne?
can i use this for microphone amplifier?
Pff, topping... Again a new model.
This or FiiO K19?
Beautifull looking and well built DAC but I was disappointed soundwise and the price is way over the top. Sent it back.
Out of curiosity, why were you disappointed in the sound? And did you only use it as a DAC or Dac/Amp for headphones?
What didn't you like about it?
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The best topping have made😀
Unfortunately, after a lengthy 18min review you still missed THE key comparison that everybody was waiting for 😂 How does the DX9 DAC compare to the Eversolo A8???
Comparisons, comparisons...and again, comparisons. The 99% of emails that I'm usually getting (and ignoring 😆). Their features don't align, DX9 has a headphone amp and a very potent one, while DMP-A8 is also a streamer, music server and Roon endpoint. Apples vs oranges, really. However, as DAC only units, they are extremely close. DX9 felt by a hair more technical sounding (faster & more resolving), while DMP-A8 was smoother at the very top.
Why did you show both device next to each other multiple times, if you don‘t want to compare the DACs? Knowing that the A8 DAC is equal to the DX9 could save me an external DAC!
@@SpaceEncounter Because, as stated multiple times, the DMP-A8 was used as the streamer for the DX9 in both a stereo and head-fi setup. I can't compare apples to oranges. They have a different feature set.
@@Soundnews Let me explain: it is clear that the devices perform a slightly different range of functions, but I think I am not the only one choosing between the two, since not all these functions are needed (for example, I do not need a headphone amplifier, but I need a DAC and a good preamp, but perhaps I am also ready to replace my player if A8 sounds better to me than DX9), so the comparison in sound matters even in this case.
Well, the DAC has been sorted out (thanks for the clear answer!).
The question is about the preamp for the stereo system - I have heard an authoritative opinion that the A8 preamp is inferior to the rest of its part and it will be much better to use an external preamp. How would you compare the DX9 and A8 preamps?
Beautiful device, no eARC?
I2S sounds incoherent, noisy and most of all shitty
What are you connecting it to?
@@psysword CD transport
Reviewing a DAC for 18min is too tiring for me cos you have NO yardstick to measure it against, by describing how it sounds for 18min makes even less sense, a more useful review would be comparing it against a DAC with a comparable price range.
It was far above the typical delta-sigma, anywhere near the price. He compared it with the pricey FPGA and R2R stuff, which he uses on a regular basis.
Shut up! Just because you have a limited attention span...
mqa?
Gone!
Finally dead.
Mixed feelings. I'm sure its sounds good and the tempered glass top has novelty, but the rounded edges and aesthetics turn me off. Looks like those budget chi-fi gear from Douk audio.
A pity that it has not dual mono dac chips
4499EQ is already a quad-DAC, having separate channels for a fully differential/balanced output. 4499EX is a dual-DAC by comparison, meaning that you need two units for a fully balanced signal, but it's not the case with 4499EQ.
"The unit sounds better via IIS than USB"? -- Total nonsense. Audioscience has tested this on a flagship Gustard DAC, and found absolutely no difference in resulting signals whether USB or IIS is used.
They also said 320 kbps sounded as clear as 1440 kbps and above. Nonsense.
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I have fiio k9 pro ess and thinking to try DX9. Is it worth it?
How much does this cost? 1300€! No thanks
Chi fi?….cant do it
I hate rounded endes, I just hate so much I'd give this thing to someone else if I had one
Replace hate with love, you'll de surprised how much it will change you.
How much does this cost? 1300€! No thanks
It's just another Chinese s**t😂
they must pay all of you YTers to promote their nonmusical gadgets for years.Who knows never buys Topping or SMSL😂
Western Companies pay YT to market their overpriced garbage to snobs like you 😂😂😂
Does anyone know what rthe three headphone jacks on the front of the DX9 ?
6.35mm SE, 4.4mm balanced, 4-pin XLR balanced - isn't that obvious from the video?