What a brain fart with that MAD placement lol 😂 Really fun boss imo! With the reduced speed and ability cooldown though i think the recent 400% speed vortex was a little bit harder no? 🧐
17:31 The Trade Empire is significantly bigger than the other boats, the way you circumvent the problem is to place your other boats prior to getting the trade empire. Edit: Trade Empire did *not* take space, it was just slightly off boat placing alongside paragons having their footprints in the way of the boat.
this is not true. the footprints of the boomerang and ninja paragon are stepping on top of his ideal boat placement. if you put something on a carrier flagship's towers, it will have placement priority over anything, even the track. towers never change in size after upgrading unless they are sun temple
@@supremechaosbeing2696 I see it now, I tried mirroring his setup in sandbox and ran into the exact problem he had, his boat placement just wasn’t as tight as it needed to be. I had a similar issue and just built my 4th boat prior to Trade Empire and thought that fixed the issue. Funny that it works that way though, despite there being no ice.
@@grandruby5343 another way to do it would be to place the carrier flagship more to the top of the water pool and place your flagship towers on top of things you're not likely to sell early, like ben you can do similar placement magic by clustering a bunch of dart monkeys together and using the geraldo cape on them. now they'll have overlapping footprints. if you sell and re-buy those towers then you won't be able to fit anything there, but as long as the tower is already placed then the footprint doesn't matter for itself
Playing this map made me realize how good it can actually be for late game like long track, a lot of space for farming and temples and a good spot for the VTSG I think you could get to round 600 with powers
@@JoshuaZitzelsberger-sk3ek yes that’s why I said he could get to round 600 because logs still is superior but on logs he got to round 600 and the Bloons were only getting halfway and I don’t think logs is twice as good as this map so that’s why I said he could get to round 600 with powers
@@number1-willstetsonsimp Literally how are you supposed to kill those things?! They simply refuse to die and Dreadbloon himself is annoying to hit too.
@@robertlupa8273 They're deceptive. They look like normal bloons but they have moab level health. Tier 1 elite rock bloons have 600 hp (which is 3x more than a moab) and tier 2 elite rock bloons have 2500 hp (~3.6x more than a bfb). You basically have to treat them like they're beefier fortified moab class bloons.
i think a fun boss challenge could be bloonarius at 1% hp with alternate bloons rounds and then set bloon speed to 200% and moab health 200% but ceram health at 75% and moab speed at 75% a base dart could probably pop the bloonarius without issue... but good luck dealing with a million speedy green bloons (at tier 1) all over your track
@@AMig-ht8nw you're thinking of RBE, red bloon equivalent, which is how much a bloon is worth. RBS stands for red bloon seconds and is a measurement for the length of tracks
Crazy thing is this boss is too hard for most people to complete but mackan finds it so easy he needs to challenge himself even further by limiting his building space.
BTD6 in 2124: Elite Vortex, C.H.I.M.P.S, Support only, 2000% HP, 1000% Ability Cooldown, 1/10 Cash, Only 5 Monkeys at once, Alternate Bloon Rounds, 1000% Speed, No Hero, $500 Starting Cash, Round 39 Start, ONLY 4 PLAYER CO-OP, Reverse, Apopalypse, Impoppable, No Paragons, All camo, All regrow, All fortified, and on Blons.
Me beating it round 45 and then with; not kidding, 27 wizard, 1 sub, 23 Boat and a 43 around airship… shit was whack. But also did not have your heavy restriction. This was a week to remember definately, didnt wanna restart and was super stroked that my appreciation for the wizard paragon micro in bosses made me do this with the most whack-arse setup.
We all know Morgan Ellis can defeat that boss in 0.1 milliseconds im the most optimal method, sithout any mistakes done, and THREE DAYS before the boss was even prgrammed.
They should make ne2 section in boss area called modified bosses as a separate boss than regular one so normal ppl can do no modified bosses and better ppl can do modified ones
They should do an easy ish boss but make it unique. Like no modifyer on midnight manaion so you cant farm. Or vortex on another brick/cornfield to limit global towers. It just feels like currently the bosses are very simple or mind numbingly frustrating with little in between
Lych heals from any temporary buffs and selling towers! So only use permanent buffs like jungle drums for example, and also don't sell towers during the boss fight!
@@MackanRules holy shit thanks man how did I not know this lol I thought it's just accidental heal. Been playing btd5 since the beginning too.. I'm embarrassed
@@MackanRules I just tried again beating 5* boss without using any temporary buffs or selling towers and he still heals every 10-15s. I don't understand what am I doing wrong? Lynch is so annoying I try to avoid him every time he comes around because he heals so much for me it's almost impossible to beat.
Eh I'd rather see an elite boss challenge where you're not allowed to sell anything; or alternatively, an elite boss challenge where you're not allowed to buy upgrades that grant active abilities. But yeah the increasing hitboxes for upgrading towers is a constant frustration regardless of mode.
Wait til Saturday for the new boss, they usually go well balanced for all- Not meant for casuals, and it alternates between that. Sometimes they may do a middle tier boss, which in my opinion is best kind of boss for everyone, as the elite won’t either have ridiculous speed or ridiculous HP, more so just tower restrictions and map choice. I think of last weeks Bloonarius and the Dreadbloon that was in Middle of the Road. Also don’t feel discouraged from using stuff like insta monkeys or powers to get a better footing. You get those insta monkeys to use them, not to let them collect dust. It’s just added challenge to not use them. And of course, start off using guides to gain an idea of how bosses differ from normal games, follow them to the letter, and then after you’ve gained an understanding, you can then free flow with your own strats. For a long while until I unlocked the Ace paragon, I used the Wizard paragon and made him my strongest one for most bosses.
I want a boss in the opposite extreme (least cash for tryhards) I wnat it 10% hp and normal speed so normies can beat it and the sweats will have like first place being 30k I think would be really cool
I’m struggling doing it on my mobile phone. I get to tier 4 and don’t have enough money. Something with overclocking I’m not doing enough of for my banana central. I’d like to get your opinion on what you did.
It’s perfectly fine to use a supply drop and beat it, early farming is usually the roughest time, and it doesn’t help that due to this boss tier 1 is basically Tier 2 in terms of HP.
@@DeMonkeyBananasBy Tier 4 You should already have at least a better Dart Paragon and maybe a Boomerang Paragon alongside it, and if not that then Flying Fortress and a MAD with extra stuff like Carpet of Spikes may help you get by narrowly. In terms of farms you should have the Bannana Central, Monkey Wall Street, and maybe the T5 bank as well, alongside a load of BRFs and maybe 10 Central Markets to help with your Trade Empire.
@@DeMonkeyBananas i used a deg 60 ninja that i got for t3 on round 96 (that didnt work because lych made it to the last bend and stole the buffs from my flying fortresses) but then i got a deg 1 navarch that could buff my ace paragon later oh and overclocking brfs is sooooo important
What a brain fart with that MAD placement lol 😂
Really fun boss imo! With the reduced speed and ability cooldown though i think the recent 400% speed vortex was a little bit harder no? 🧐
my brain is a farting machine
no uru just bad at the game lol
not like the MAD placement changed the outcome much anyway, it'd have been the same as if it were on the inside corner
I found the vortex way harder
I lost it when you zoomed in on mad
I didn't even notice while watching XD
BTD6 in 2030: Elite Lych, primary only, 1800% HP, ability cooldown 1000%, quarter cash mode, alternate bloon rounds, 700% bloon speed, no hero allowed, $200 starting cash, monkey knowledge disabled, on high finance with object removal disabled
Some guy: ez
Bruh
hell yeah no power restriction i cast cash drop x400
Isab could take it down
That is completely impossible though.
"ive actually seen people playing it and beating it, which is... disappointing" i think hes secretly working for the bloons
That one Reddit Bloon account is smiling rn
Some people just wanna see others suffer
Can relate, I'm also disappointed
...time to call the squad
This boss has 235 776 000 hp in 4 player co-op.💀
W H A T
That's is a lot of HP for a boss in co-op.
How many red balloon scale
@@AMig-ht8nw 235 776 000
nah, I'd win.
17:31 The Trade Empire is significantly bigger than the other boats, the way you circumvent the problem is to place your other boats prior to getting the trade empire.
Edit: Trade Empire did *not* take space, it was just slightly off boat placing alongside paragons having their footprints in the way of the boat.
this is not true. the footprints of the boomerang and ninja paragon are stepping on top of his ideal boat placement. if you put something on a carrier flagship's towers, it will have placement priority over anything, even the track. towers never change in size after upgrading unless they are sun temple
@@supremechaosbeing2696 They definitely do change in size lol
Wow nevermind I just read the wiki and saw that they do infact never change
@@supremechaosbeing2696 I see it now, I tried mirroring his setup in sandbox and ran into the exact problem he had, his boat placement just wasn’t as tight as it needed to be. I had a similar issue and just built my 4th boat prior to Trade Empire and thought that fixed the issue.
Funny that it works that way though, despite there being no ice.
@@grandruby5343 another way to do it would be to place the carrier flagship more to the top of the water pool and place your flagship towers on top of things you're not likely to sell early, like ben
you can do similar placement magic by clustering a bunch of dart monkeys together and using the geraldo cape on them. now they'll have overlapping footprints. if you sell and re-buy those towers then you won't be able to fit anything there, but as long as the tower is already placed then the footprint doesn't matter for itself
14:04 didn't want to sell snipers but ended up doing so anyway. Had he bought 5 ninjas for the snipers he sold, he would've saved 80k
Playing this map made me realize how good it can actually be for late game like long track, a lot of space for farming and temples and a good spot for the VTSG I think you could get to round 600 with powers
Have you seen his video on logs? Where he got past round 600?
@@JoshuaZitzelsberger-sk3ek yes that’s why I said he could get to round
600 because logs still is superior but on logs he got to round 600 and the Bloons were only getting halfway and I don’t think logs is twice as good as this map so that’s why I said he could get to round 600 with powers
@@thehackster6046 oh ok
Its beautiful how ISAB and Mackan both thought off healing Lych for extra big plane pops...great minds think alike😂😂
Mackan gonna make NK make a boss that he’ll be forced to do without any handicaps on himself and still be difficult.
Yeah monkeynomics would likely have been better considering the lower ability cooldown this boss challenge
17:25 the boat has different a footprint from the sub (general tip not for that specific scenario)
Bro Lych is my Kryptonite bro like he's so annoying and the baby lich just is crazy.
i think dreadbloon is more annoying with those god damn rocks
@@number1-willstetsonsimp Literally how are you supposed to kill those things?! They simply refuse to die and Dreadbloon himself is annoying to hit too.
@@robertlupa8273 They're deceptive. They look like normal bloons but they have moab level health. Tier 1 elite rock bloons have 600 hp (which is 3x more than a moab) and tier 2 elite rock bloons have 2500 hp (~3.6x more than a bfb). You basically have to treat them like they're beefier fortified moab class bloons.
@@multiapples6215ikr
@@multiapples6215ohh thanks
i think a fun boss challenge could be bloonarius at 1% hp with alternate bloons rounds and then set bloon speed to 200% and moab health 200% but ceram health at 75% and moab speed at 75%
a base dart could probably pop the bloonarius without issue... but good luck dealing with a million speedy green bloons (at tier 1) all over your track
if customizing boss challenges is ever a thing this would be the funniest challenge
just place your defense at the end of the track lol or get an elite defender
@@zavodila6421you could even get a corrosive glue storm lmao
@@mcbuuiop that would be funny
it would be the easiest boss ever.
Do it in 4 player coop and get like 1b health
almost 236m to be exact
How much red ballon scale (1 red ballon is 1 rbs 1 pink balloon is 5 rbs) then how much rbs is that
@@AMig-ht8nw you're thinking of RBE, red bloon equivalent, which is how much a bloon is worth. RBS stands for red bloon seconds and is a measurement for the length of tracks
Crazy thing is this boss is too hard for most people to complete but mackan finds it so easy he needs to challenge himself even further by limiting his building space.
i think getting a higher degree ace is better than getting more low degree paragons
also dart paragon is actually very decent on this map
I love to do bosses in coop but with lych it’s impossible because there’s always someone buying something that buffs it
Normal lych co op possible i did it tho did use some instas and powers but elite in co op no chance
@@JackSmith-oq4mf especially with the lag
BTD6 in 2124: Elite Vortex, C.H.I.M.P.S, Support only, 2000% HP, 1000% Ability Cooldown, 1/10 Cash, Only 5 Monkeys at once, Alternate Bloon Rounds, 1000% Speed, No Hero, $500 Starting Cash, Round 39 Start, ONLY 4 PLAYER CO-OP, Reverse, Apopalypse, Impoppable, No Paragons, All camo, All regrow, All fortified, and on Blons.
Too ez
Me beating it round 45 and then with; not kidding, 27 wizard, 1 sub, 23 Boat and a 43 around airship… shit was whack. But also did not have your heavy restriction. This was a week to remember definately, didnt wanna restart and was super stroked that my appreciation for the wizard paragon micro in bosses made me do this with the most whack-arse setup.
Deg 40+ Plane is 20% More Damage which is a BIG difference than Makan with only deg 24
We all know Morgan Ellis can defeat that boss in 0.1 milliseconds im the most optimal method, sithout any mistakes done, and THREE DAYS before the boss was even prgrammed.
Real
It gives me physical pain that Mackan didn't use banks and didn't place his boats correctly 80 rounds before they would be necessary.
That is less than 1/3 of the map space. 0:40
yeah it's like 1/9
2/7
1/6
thank you MackanRules for popping the 144 million hp Lych
I didnt see that the ranked was least tiers and proudly beat lych(normal not eliete) with 748 tiers 💪
Got stuck on tier 4 spent ten thousand monkey money trying to get out of it. Had less than one skull left but ran out of rounds at 119. Ugh!
I like how we get a few weeks of easy bosses then a good challenge like this.
144 million health was too much. I was barely able to beat it
Basically gave you a middle finger.
Good video, nice self impossed challenge. I loved it. No need to correct your title this time haha.
the only thing that can compare to this is your mom...
's cooking skills she is a great chef 😅
😋
Wait did i just casually do a 600% health boss as my first time? Now i feel good about myself
You’re actually insane at this game
not really
would be really cool to see more challenges you fail, maybe a compilation of things that just didn't work out for whatever reason
I kinda want a boss mode that puts bosses in freeplay
That sorta happened with Bugged Lych when its soul got Freeplay round scaling. It made Lych nigh impossible
They should make ne2 section in boss area called modified bosses as a separate boss than regular one so normal ppl can do no modified bosses and better ppl can do modified ones
They should do an easy ish boss but make it unique. Like no modifyer on midnight manaion so you cant farm. Or vortex on another brick/cornfield to limit global towers. It just feels like currently the bosses are very simple or mind numbingly frustrating with little in between
Fun fact: vortex on midnight mansion is so much fricking harder than this one
and here I was thinking I was bad for dying at the 4th tier
It was so broken that ninja kiwi changed it to 300%
OMG the food is so spicy dude 😮💨🔥
They should make a dreadbloon with 1 paragon allowed and no vtsg
How do you stop this boss from healing every 5 seconds? I do even more damage than you but he keeps healing every 5-10seconds i dont understand
Lych heals from any temporary buffs and selling towers! So only use permanent buffs like jungle drums for example, and also don't sell towers during the boss fight!
@@MackanRules holy shit thanks man how did I not know this lol I thought it's just accidental heal. Been playing btd5 since the beginning too.. I'm embarrassed
@@MackanRules I just tried again beating 5* boss without using any temporary buffs or selling towers and he still heals every 10-15s. I don't understand what am I doing wrong? Lynch is so annoying I try to avoid him every time he comes around because he heals so much for me it's almost impossible to beat.
@@3K4peikos don't use Rosalia nor shit like the Plasma Fan club or Perma−Charge
I completed this game mode, but DAM, it was hard.
lich didn’t skip leg day
imagine if they did bloonarious
also is it me or does lych look more... "extreme"
Eh I'd rather see an elite boss challenge where you're not allowed to sell anything; or alternatively, an elite boss challenge where you're not allowed to buy upgrades that grant active abilities.
But yeah the increasing hitboxes for upgrading towers is a constant frustration regardless of mode.
I’m so MAD the MAD is outside
This... this made me fold and use 2 of my precious t3 insta farms. A sad day for all monkey kind.
I've found it to be impossible, even with 2 atleast tier 40 Paragons, I've tried them all. (Elite)
They should make a tank or heavily armored boss that moves slow. Like this one but an actual name and sprite
..dreadbloon?
Bloonarius
literally dreadbloon
@@CourierCat-isGod Dreadbloon has resistances but less JP than most bosses. Bloonarius is the pure hp tank bloon.
@@alexandredesmarais3848
the comment did say armoured and slow
Wait till we get the 200m hp dreadbloon
MAD outside, restart challenge.
Sorry to let you know this but degree 40 sub and plane co-op the boss 😂
I dont know how but I beat this boss first try while being drunk
I am bad at bosses and we only get harder and harder bosses 😞
nah bro bosses are too easy
Nope, we are getting some easy bosses between the hard bosses to appease both types of players
but ppl ignore them for some reason
Elite bosses are practically impossible but the normal ones are fine.
Wait til Saturday for the new boss, they usually go well balanced for all- Not meant for casuals, and it alternates between that. Sometimes they may do a middle tier boss, which in my opinion is best kind of boss for everyone, as the elite won’t either have ridiculous speed or ridiculous HP, more so just tower restrictions and map choice. I think of last weeks Bloonarius and the Dreadbloon that was in Middle of the Road.
Also don’t feel discouraged from using stuff like insta monkeys or powers to get a better footing. You get those insta monkeys to use them, not to let them collect dust. It’s just added challenge to not use them.
And of course, start off using guides to gain an idea of how bosses differ from normal games, follow them to the letter, and then after you’ve gained an understanding, you can then free flow with your own strats. For a long while until I unlocked the Ace paragon, I used the Wizard paragon and made him my strongest one for most bosses.
crazy
U could have sold boomer paragon for boat
I actually didnt find too difficult
Definitely easyer than speedy vortex
could you not have placed the pool inside the area?
ITS POSSIBLE TO DOFEAT SAME BOSS (ELITE LYCH) WITH FULL SPEED AT #OUCH MAP
WITH PUDDLE GLITCH🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Bro is insane
I want a boss in the opposite extreme (least cash for tryhards) I wnat it 10% hp and normal speed so normies can beat it and the sweats will have like first place being 30k I think would be really cool
am i actually good for beating this with just 1 supply drop or am is it just me only seeing the comments of people who arent good?
I’m struggling doing it on my mobile phone. I get to tier 4 and don’t have enough money. Something with overclocking I’m not doing enough of for my banana central. I’d like to get your opinion on what you did.
It’s perfectly fine to use a supply drop and beat it, early farming is usually the roughest time, and it doesn’t help that due to this boss tier 1 is basically Tier 2 in terms of HP.
@@DeMonkeyBananasBy Tier 4 You should already have at least a better Dart Paragon and maybe a Boomerang Paragon alongside it, and if not that then Flying Fortress and a MAD with extra stuff like Carpet of Spikes may help you get by narrowly.
In terms of farms you should have the Bannana Central, Monkey Wall Street, and maybe the T5 bank as well, alongside a load of BRFs and maybe 10 Central Markets to help with your Trade Empire.
@@DeMonkeyBananas i used a deg 60 ninja that i got for t3 on round 96
(that didnt work because lych made it to the last bend and stole the buffs from my flying fortresses)
but then i got a deg 1 navarch that could buff my ace paragon later
oh and overclocking brfs is sooooo important
Beat it without any powers or instas
imf opolis > mini opolis
I saw 300% HP.
That was Normal
Dont bother trying in co op especially with random ppl
Bro he placed mad outside the middle he cheated
loool
Less than 25 min gang 👇
Here
Gg
Я потратил 3000 обезьяна денег но не прошел последний уровень.
its so hard
mackanrules pin me pls?
bruh why
15 seconds
458th
We need a 1 billion HP bloonarius
Would be cool,not sure if its possible tho
With 5% boss speed
Under 1 hr gang
👇
R
could've just placed the pool inside the square and wouldnt have been cheating smh
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6 views in one minute, bro fell off