I like the touch of the Saint Denis shop owner pausing between sentences as if he's translating in his head/double checking if what he says is right, reminds me of my grandpa
@@MattiK2609 In case you're wondering, the guy's actually German and his name is Mr. Schultz, from his accent alone you can tell that he most likely learned English as his second language after coming to America as an immigrant and I do like his accent BTW Also Annesburg name is German in origin and some of the buildings there were designed in German colonial style, even some of the townsfolk there speak with German accent since the original settlers of that mining town were of German descent
@@PSpencerI agree,there haven't been any accurate animations in their games,not even in GTA 4,5 and RDR2.For shooter games like these and being an multi billion dollars company themselves, it's a huge shame
Fun fact: Nearly all characters hold Schofield revolvers in original artwork, only exceptions (that I know of) are Landon Ricketts and Javier Escuella.
@@Zee_Kay_Jay He also carries a Cattleman revolver, the gun he talks poorly of. I guess in cannon Ricketts trades pistols with John, being that he has more experience and can outshoot anyone, even with a gun he considers bad
@@TheReaper955 you can quick shoot with the Schofield as well, it's not exclusive. Cattleman just has slightly faster fire rate. If you're good enough, fire rate won't mean a ton unless you're in a panicked pinch
I like the level of detail that went into the Saint Denis and Annesburg speeches. They felt like an actual salesman getting excited about a product they like. My favourite revolver will still have to remain the Le Mat Revolver (though this one is probably second). It's slow to shoot but hits like a truck. Nine shots at that power is already appealing, but throw on the shotgun underneath? Forget about it. Do you know if they have unique dialogue for that one?
Same here! Nothing beats the Le Mat. I used to love the Schofield, and it was my main gun, but once I discovered the Le Mat, it was game over for the Schofield lol. I usually keep my lemat as my primary and my Mauser as my offhand because I like how many times I can shoot with the Mauser without having to reload. As my heavier weapons, I always have my pump action shotgun and my Springfield rifle ready!
@@UnchainedMelodie92 Good choices! I liked to dual-wield the Le Mats at end game. As for long weapons, I stuck with the Lever Action Shotgun and the Evans Repeater. Evans is fairly powerful, really accurate, fast, and has a massive ammo capacity. As for the shotgun, well... pump action is great, but lever action is just too cool to pass on for the authentic cowboy feel.
@@Wh173c0c0 Lever action? I don't know if I know that one! Is it under another name in the game? And the repeaters are awesome! I, personally, love the Litchfield and I used to have that one and my Springfield ready all the time. But ever since I discovered the incendiary shells, I use them with the pump-action and get easy kills lol. I also don't particularly like rifles because they're so slow to reload, but I always have it on hand in case I see a 3 star animal I like!
@@UnchainedMelodie92 I just looked it up. It seems it is called the "Repeating Shotgun" in this game (forgive me, I haven't played RDR2 for about a year). You can unlock it in Chapter 6, it seems. I love lever actions in real life, so I'm a bit biased towards this one.
@@Wh173c0c0 Oh ok, I love that one, too! It's a great shotgun, and I was using it for a good while, too. But unfortunately, it's a little less powerful than the pump-action, and I really wanted a more powerful one because of the Skinners lol. You have good taste, I see! 😊 I wish I knew about guns, but I don't, sadly 😕. Do you hunt?
0:17 That's a very subtle reference to 1995's The Quick And The Dead, when Cort is looking for a revolver, DiCaprio's character tells him the exact same after giving him the $5 dollar revolver that he ends up buying. Minutes before, they also review a Schofield.
Every gun in the game has unique dialogue from every Gunsmith except the Cattleman and Carbine. Some even have alternate dialogues from the same Gunsmith, although only one will play at a time. There's only one other vid on all of TH-cam covering it, and they left out a gun or two and some dialogue. The only way to see it all is through Red Dead Online.
Fun Fact: Th Schofield Revolver (the No.3 by Smith and Wesson), was chambered in .45 Schofield, which is actually weaker than the .45 Colt, and all .45 Colt revolvers can shoot .45 Schofield, but .45 Schofield was used for making in the .45 ACP, which has a similar ballistics. However, .45 Schofield has been kinda lost to time, with .45 Colt becoming more popular, even leading to the eventual making of .454 Casull (a cartridge that became the most powerful round after .44 Magnum), which then led to the development of the second strongest handgun on the market: .460 Magnum. In other words, if you had a .45 Colt Single Action Army (Cattleman or Peacemaker) in that time frame, you can shoot .45 Schofield, which was done in the military, as they adopted .45 Schofield at that time. But, by all means, .45 Colt has more power than .45 Schofield, but, .45 Schofield was very effective itself.
@@a36538 Well, one, .460 Magnum is fairly new, being produced since 2005. And two, .460 S&W magnum has a longer case with more powder. .440 Cor-Bon, 240 Grain JHP is travelling at 1,800 fps and delivering 1,727 ft/lbs. of energy .460 Magnum, 200 grain DPX is travelling at 2,300 fps and delivering 2,350 ft/lbs. of energy .454 Casull 240 grain bullet JHP travels at 1,900 fps and delivers 1,923 (.454 Casull was also produced the same year as .440 Cor-Bon, which is 1997) Only .45 Colt and .45 Schofield are weaker than all these. Also, the .440 Cor-Bon is a wildcat cartridge of .50 AE (.440 is necked down), and only Cor-Bon makes it, so that is considered a wildcat cartridge
@@MasterFancyPants It's actually a pretty stout design and was very popular all the way into the early 1900s, and militaries used them all the way into the 1960's
@@JdbdjdbdhDjugrhyrbjfgkosayup but that's not how schofields work. They are break actions, meaning the top hinges open much like a door, granting access to the cylinder.
@@JdbdjdbdhDjugrhyrbjfgkosa it's based on the Smith & Wesson model 3 which has the mechanism I mentioned. If you look at the video again you'll see not only does the cylinder pop out, the barrel also goes with it. The animation is all kinds of whack
The irony being the Schofield is portrayed as being more powerful than the Cattleman, when in reality the Single-Action Army had a stronger chambering, and could also load the .45 Schofield cartridge. The Schofield's break-action made it very fast to reload compared to the SAA, but the reverse is true in game
Well... I kinda like it... I customized it with gold and put the hero cross... It's still a good gun but I use volcanic pistol and schofield revolver for gameplay
@solitudeguard2316 Its not shit. It has the best firerate in the game, and it feels amazing to hipfire. Every gun in the game is good, except maybe the Double-Action Revolver. Edit: Sorry, I just got what you were refering to.
That is the actual way you say it! I don't know if the voice actors didn't know, or it was maybe some intentional way of avoiding using the gun's real name but "Skofield" is the correct way to say it.
As somebody who has Schofield in my family tree, yes, it's "Skofield". Same way nobody pronounces Los Santos the same way in GTA V. They just didn't prime the VAs.
@@DominoDivision Same as the swing out cylinder on a cattleman (John, epilogue)... they just didn't do their research. That's what happens when a bunch of Californians and Englishmen create a game with guns in it...
i think the animation is bugged it happened to me but i distinctively remember them opening it properly and all the way when the game first came out i think an update some time ago broke it and it's using the wrong animation set
I liked the LeMat more than the Schofield because it fires nine revolver rounds plus one shotgun round but since the LeMat came in late into the game, it doesn't have the same attachments that I formed with the Schofield revolvers.
Love the Schofield Revolver, my go-to sidearm. Usually wield one Schofield, and Otis Miller's Revolver (which is a unique version of the Schofield you can find).
Good glimpse into how you talked your guns before the field became so technical I'm a complete nerd for them myself, but it feels like everyone's trying to be an expert when I just like these beautiful machines.
I get what your saying completely but It’s hard not to be condescending when you correct the same problem over and over again What I mean by that is for example like I’ve had to correct countless people on 7.62x39 not being .308 diameter ITS .311 DIAMETER And I end up getting snappy sometimes when people who just don’t know get defensive about it but it’s important to remain calm in those situations (which I try to do) Also sometimes you just get a RIDICULOUS statement or question and I can’t help but laugh Like I had someone say to me the Sig 226 pistol shot .556 just no, no it doesn’t…😂
FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT FACTUAL INFORMATION ON THE .45 COLT v .45 SCHOFIELD: Judging by the number of likes on this comment and the replies, I think this needs correction. The term "considerably weaker" is not accurate, at least I don't agree with "considerably". I would like to preface this information that the difference between the 2 cartridges can be even further nullified (out of revolvers) if we're discussing modern loads using modern powders. But for the sake of the game, I'll assume you're talking about period-correct ammunition using black powder only. As mentioned above, using modern loads, you can actually load both cartridges rather hot. What gun the cartdige is being used in plays into how hot it can be loaded. For example, a .45 colt can actually be loaded up to as hot or even hotter than .44 magnum loads *however*, this is not a possibility if you're going to be shooting it out of an old-school cowboy revolver such as the schofield or colt SAA. Such a load would explode the gun, since they're not designed for such pressures. This would be a load you'd fire out of a modern rifle or a Ruger Super Red Hawk revolver. With the use of black powder only and remaining in the estimated 14500 PSI max pressure for most revolvers of this time, you can typically load the .45 colt 100-200 feet per second faster than the .45 schofield of equal bullet weight. While the extra boost in velocity is nice, and factually does make it carry more energy onto the target - exactly how much energy is not a huge difference, especially when it comes to hangun velocities. The truth is that for most handgun cartridges with the exception of hotter magnum loads, all you're really doing is poking holes into your target. All of those gnarly exit wounds and pulverized flesh you hear about rarely ever exists with handguns due to their velocities. The truth of the matter is neither the colt .45 or .45 schofield cartridge is likely to even exit the human body from center mass impacts. They're simply not going fast enough - neither of them. While there is no hollow points in this time period, all bullets tend to mushroom on impact to some degree, giving them a slight level of expansion. Again however, neither cartidge is moving fast enough to reliably and consistently mushroom, even if it does sometimes. Not that mushrooming adds any extra damage really anyway, you'd really want to see expansion (hollowpoints) or fragmentation (velocity), both of which will not occur with such slow projectiles. Even if there were hollowpoints available for these bullets back in 1875, it wouldsn't matter. Both cartrdiges won't safely go past 900 FPS even with modern powder when fired from an old-school gun. Hollow points need over 1000 FPS to expand, and ideally pushing 1100 or more. This is why +P ammo is so common these days. Because of this, the "percieved power" of the .45 colt over the .45 schofield is mathmaticall true, but when translated into real world scenarios, it makes no difference. For this reason, claiming one of these rounds is "considerably more powerful" than the other is actually rather misleading. In actuality, if somebody was shot in the exact same spot with either bullet fired from a period-correct gun with period-correct load, the resulting damage would be identical. Hope this helps and you guys found it interesting.
The Schofield revolver is legitimately my second favorite weapon in the game It was only beaten by the M1899 because I love the more "futuristic" design of the pistol, but untill chapter 4 you know I only rock the Schofield
I hate the swing-open cylinder animation they use. They do it again later with John’s cattleman. They also almost never cock the hammers on the revolvers in the cutscenes. It drives me crazy, lol.
The Schofield was sold to the US Army for $13.50 a piece. I’m sure that on the civilian market it was sold for about $20 - $30 per unit. But there is no way anybody in 1899 would buy a Schofield for $80+.
I love how sometimes they break the revolver’s cylinder sideways as a gun nut that rubs me the wrong way but overall I’m very impressed with the realism of the guns in the game.
As bad as it can be for very long term use because of the weakpoints it has, it had a great place in history. One day I'll own one and buy five replacement parts.
The Schofield was made to be used on horseback, easier reloading. The only reason they didn't get the contract with the military was that The Cold .45 SAA (cattleman in game) could take .45 Long Colt AND the Schofield bullets, and the Schofield could only take its own, and the army already had lots of .45 LC.
In classic Army fashion, they ditched the Schofield revolvers and then ditched _the Colt ammunition_ because the lower power of Schofield round made the recoil more manageable.
I always cringe when they open the breach on the revolvers from the side lol. The Schofield is a break action and the cylinder on the Colt SAA doesn't open out from the side either, it only rotates. IDK how they screwed that up with all the meticulous detail they put in this game
Alr ima go over how they sounds based off their reactions for no reason: Valentine Gunsmith:Proud to sell and likes it. Tumbleweed Gunsmith:nonchalant but still recommends it. Saint Denis Gunsmith:Enjoys it and explains his joy of it. Rhodes Gunsmith:explains a disadvantage but thinks it’s an advantage. Annesburg Gunsmith:Highly recommends it and says he could win a duel with it.
That would be the Lancaster repeater, not Schofield Revolver. Winchester is a pretty well regarded location in England, being the former seat of power. Lancaster is a shithole.
I literally have never heard any of these lines. I’ve played the game for like 1300 hours. I’ve played at at least every few weeks since the day it came out. What is happening!
Valentine's gunssmith talk about Schofield is actually reminding me the Kid's in "The quick and the dead": "The gun shoots straight, i wouldh't sell if it didh't"
I wish you could just listen to the dialogue of the guns you already own, I have no idea why that isn't an option. Just have have a "Can't buy a gun you already own" warning pop up and have them say something like "Sorry, that one is already reserved for another customer"
For info on the gun The smith & wesson NO 3 top break revolver .45 long colt "the Scofield" The revolver was a order from general Schofield of the US army this is were this version of the NO3 gets its name. General schofield wanted a no3 revolver chambered in .45 long colt from that day any no3 chambered in .45 long colt was called a Schofield revolver. Popular revolvers in the US have always been the good old american colt but in canada for our .455 Weebly and .44 russian rounds we preferred the smith & Wesson triple lock revolver or the "new generation army" or the double action colt with swing out cylinders. Colt at the time had so many orders rhat they sold their pattents to companies like cimarron firearms and more same for remington. Revolvers in the old west was in crazy high damand.
Tbh im very upset that they made the schofield do more damage than the cattlemen. They even gave the cattleman a faster reload speed despite that being completely unrealistic. The schofield had a smaller bullet due to sw veing unwilling to chamber their weapon in 45 colt because they didnt want people purchasing the larger superior cartridge
I wouldn't say the colt was superior. The Army ended up adopting the Schofield ammunition for all their Colt guns, and Browning based the 45 ACP off of it. Almost identical ballistics to 45 ACP
@astrotrek3534 mostly true but eventually the schofield was cast aside due to the military wanting more power in their hand guns, and yet Rockstar makes it the gun that does more damage while giving the colt a faster reload! It's literally backwards
Yeah, it's an oversight. That thing happens with all revolvers when you first pick them up like that, even though the double action is the only one that should actually be able to do it.
In real life the original s&w no3 revolver is weaker than the colt single action army because the 45 schofield round is shorter than the 45 colt so it cant hold as much powder as the colt.
0:03 casually opens break action revolver and breaks it in wrong way It's the not first time shown in scene where characters supposed to hold semi-auto revolver because it's cylinder open from side, but what the heck man, this cylinder clearly doesn't open like that, and rockstar knew it Whatever, whatever, still better than Starfield's with their 'Collective revolver' misinfo
Great gun used by some famous names. When I play I wield one in the main holster and the trusty cattleman in the off hand holster. It's a shame they chose the older yellow boy repeater in this game instead of the gun that won the west the winchester 1873. Odd that was in the first game but not this one
They really should’ve added Sharps rifle into the game, not enough love for the first sniper rifle, long before the Remington Rolling Block even existed.
Hang on a second. How do you get them to describe the gun? Every time i bought guns in the game i just purchased them out of the book and they bring it to the table and dont say anything else
Why in the hell did the animation team or whoever worked on it animate the revolver trying to swivel out to the side to check ammo? It's not mechanically possible. Same ignorance occurred in the epilogue when John pulled his cattleman revolver out from under the bed and the cylinder swiveled out. Beyond idiotic to include these animations and overlook the Schofields top break action and the colts loading gate like wtf the anims for reloading are in the game already
I like the touch of the Saint Denis shop owner pausing between sentences as if he's translating in his head/double checking if what he says is right, reminds me of my grandpa
I really like the Annesburg gunsmith because you can hear the passion in his voice when he speaks about firearms.
Ahhh, you have kept that perfectly maintained! I love to see that!
i am tired to hear this@@phillipwalling7470
I don't know whether that guy is Swedish or Norwegian or something, but I really love his accent 😄
True, his voice reminds me of that guy and his passion for carbonara: th-cam.com/video/3AAdKl1UYZs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=gHYYhZ9xwCfooVM2 :D
@@MattiK2609
In case you're wondering, the guy's actually German and his name is Mr. Schultz, from his accent alone you can tell that he most likely learned English as his second language after coming to America as an immigrant and I do like his accent BTW
Also Annesburg name is German in origin and some of the buildings there were designed in German colonial style, even some of the townsfolk there speak with German accent since the original settlers of that mining town were of German descent
For all the detail Rockstar put into this game. The checking of the schofield and when John checks his cattleman is incredibly cursed.
the firearms in general are cursed. Stats that make no sense, super human reloads, and general inconsistencies through and through
Rockstar has never made good firearm animations
@@PSpencerI agree,there haven't been any accurate animations in their games,not even in GTA 4,5 and RDR2.For shooter games like these and being an multi billion dollars company themselves, it's a huge shame
This is a top break revolver, and he like.. kicked the cylinder to the left to check if it was loaded? Mental.
this was because during mo-capping for these animations they all used double action revolvers as models and just used it for everything
IT IS ILLEGAL TO HURT THE ANNESBURG GUNSMITH
i love the saint denis gunsmith, its so sad we have to rob him for that gambling thing
im pretty sure its illegal to hurt anyone buy if you hurt the annesburg gunsmith you get sent to the inceration facility
@@snop7476 *inceration* The act of smearing or covering with wax.
@@foochs I said what I said man
@@epicmanpog7846 true but after shopping there for a bit, later he completely ignores the fact u robbed them lol
Fun fact: Nearly all characters hold Schofield revolvers in original artwork, only exceptions (that I know of) are Landon Ricketts and Javier Escuella.
Funny because Landon Ricketts says schofield is a real man's revolver
@@Zee_Kay_Jay He also carries a Cattleman revolver, the gun he talks poorly of. I guess in cannon Ricketts trades pistols with John, being that he has more experience and can outshoot anyone, even with a gun he considers bad
the art of bonnie in front of the burning barn has some kind of repeater i think, not sure exactly but definitely not a revolver lol
Cattleman is the real man’s Revolver.
@@Zee_Kay_JaySchofield =Smol PP
You should always give your first cattleman revolver a customization, in case you want to equip another cattleman.
I'm only just starting my playthrough, and I don't get what you're saying at all.
@@BestKCL with cattleman revolver you can quick shoot while you're not aiming
@@Rocco-qv2w exactly
@@Rocco-qv2w isnt there a symbol that tells you which one it is?
@@TheReaper955 you can quick shoot with the Schofield as well, it's not exclusive. Cattleman just has slightly faster fire rate. If you're good enough, fire rate won't mean a ton unless you're in a panicked pinch
I like the level of detail that went into the Saint Denis and Annesburg speeches. They felt like an actual salesman getting excited about a product they like.
My favourite revolver will still have to remain the Le Mat Revolver (though this one is probably second). It's slow to shoot but hits like a truck. Nine shots at that power is already appealing, but throw on the shotgun underneath? Forget about it. Do you know if they have unique dialogue for that one?
Same here! Nothing beats the Le Mat. I used to love the Schofield, and it was my main gun, but once I discovered the Le Mat, it was game over for the Schofield lol. I usually keep my lemat as my primary and my Mauser as my offhand because I like how many times I can shoot with the Mauser without having to reload.
As my heavier weapons, I always have my pump action shotgun and my Springfield rifle ready!
@@UnchainedMelodie92 Good choices! I liked to dual-wield the Le Mats at end game. As for long weapons, I stuck with the Lever Action Shotgun and the Evans Repeater. Evans is fairly powerful, really accurate, fast, and has a massive ammo capacity. As for the shotgun, well... pump action is great, but lever action is just too cool to pass on for the authentic cowboy feel.
@@Wh173c0c0 Lever action? I don't know if I know that one! Is it under another name in the game? And the repeaters are awesome! I, personally, love the Litchfield and I used to have that one and my Springfield ready all the time. But ever since I discovered the incendiary shells, I use them with the pump-action and get easy kills lol. I also don't particularly like rifles because they're so slow to reload, but I always have it on hand in case I see a 3 star animal I like!
@@UnchainedMelodie92 I just looked it up. It seems it is called the "Repeating Shotgun" in this game (forgive me, I haven't played RDR2 for about a year). You can unlock it in Chapter 6, it seems. I love lever actions in real life, so I'm a bit biased towards this one.
@@Wh173c0c0 Oh ok, I love that one, too! It's a great shotgun, and I was using it for a good while, too. But unfortunately, it's a little less powerful than the pump-action, and I really wanted a more powerful one because of the Skinners lol. You have good taste, I see! 😊 I wish I knew about guns, but I don't, sadly 😕. Do you hunt?
0:17 That's a very subtle reference to 1995's The Quick And The Dead, when Cort is looking for a revolver, DiCaprio's character tells him the exact same after giving him the $5 dollar revolver that he ends up buying. Minutes before, they also review a Schofield.
Actually it's a reference to the 60’s cowboy show “Gunrunner” Which the quick and dead references... This goes on for awhile.
Every gun in the game has unique dialogue from every Gunsmith except the Cattleman and Carbine. Some even have alternate dialogues from the same Gunsmith, although only one will play at a time.
There's only one other vid on all of TH-cam covering it, and they left out a gun or two and some dialogue. The only way to see it all is through Red Dead Online.
Except for the 1899 pistol. And you are wrong about the cattleman and carbine. Using mods you can actually hear them talk about them both
No gunsmith has commentary about the Evans Repeater...
@@jerichosamurai Well, yeah, it was added in an update.
@@plexyglass429 Didn't know that!
@@bug9657 Don't blame you considering its impossible to normally trigger those lines. The fact they recorded so many of them is pretty cool
Fun Fact: Th Schofield Revolver (the No.3 by Smith and Wesson), was chambered in .45 Schofield, which is actually weaker than the .45 Colt, and all .45 Colt revolvers can shoot .45 Schofield, but .45 Schofield was used for making in the .45 ACP, which has a similar ballistics. However, .45 Schofield has been kinda lost to time, with .45 Colt becoming more popular, even leading to the eventual making of .454 Casull (a cartridge that became the most powerful round after .44 Magnum), which then led to the development of the second strongest handgun on the market: .460 Magnum.
In other words, if you had a .45 Colt Single Action Army (Cattleman or Peacemaker) in that time frame, you can shoot .45 Schofield, which was done in the military, as they adopted .45 Schofield at that time. But, by all means, .45 Colt has more power than .45 Schofield, but, .45 Schofield was very effective itself.
I had heard that a deagle chambered in .440 was pretty strong? How would it compare to these old guns?
@@a36538 Well, one, .460 Magnum is fairly new, being produced since 2005. And two, .460 S&W magnum has a longer case with more powder.
.440 Cor-Bon, 240 Grain JHP is travelling at 1,800 fps and delivering 1,727 ft/lbs. of energy
.460 Magnum, 200 grain DPX is travelling at 2,300 fps and delivering 2,350 ft/lbs. of energy
.454 Casull 240 grain bullet JHP travels at 1,900 fps and delivers 1,923 (.454 Casull was also produced the same year as .440 Cor-Bon, which is 1997)
Only .45 Colt and .45 Schofield are weaker than all these.
Also, the .440 Cor-Bon is a wildcat cartridge of .50 AE (.440 is necked down), and only Cor-Bon makes it, so that is considered a wildcat cartridge
I feel like I'm watching mikeburnsfire.
Thanks for the breakdown that was incredibly enjoyable to learn about!
@@voltekthecyborg7898 thanks for the update - for comparisons sake, what would these old .45 rounds be doing?
It’s funny they talk about the power but .45 Schofield is actually considerably weaker than .45 Colt.
Exactly my first thoughts when I heard that lol
and then theres the volcanic pistol...
@@Gekquerel Fails to kill a man shooting himself in the brain, fails to hit a barn door.
There's also the fact that it isn't a strong design. Why we don't have top break modern revolvers.
@@MasterFancyPants It's actually a pretty stout design and was very popular all the way into the early 1900s, and militaries used them all the way into the 1960's
0:05 that animation with the Schofield revolver makes zero sense
he popped it out and spun it then popped it back in
@@JdbdjdbdhDjugrhyrbjfgkosawhich isn’t possible
@@JdbdjdbdhDjugrhyrbjfgkosayup but that's not how schofields work. They are break actions, meaning the top hinges open much like a door, granting access to the cylinder.
@@kungfuvinny4031 isnt it based on like a different model? something like cavalry idk i heard it somewhere
@@JdbdjdbdhDjugrhyrbjfgkosa it's based on the Smith & Wesson model 3 which has the mechanism I mentioned. If you look at the video again you'll see not only does the cylinder pop out, the barrel also goes with it. The animation is all kinds of whack
The irony being the Schofield is portrayed as being more powerful than the Cattleman, when in reality the Single-Action Army had a stronger chambering, and could also load the .45 Schofield cartridge. The Schofield's break-action made it very fast to reload compared to the SAA, but the reverse is true in game
The cattleman gets no love
I prefer the cattleman over the other ones
I use a cattleman for my primary and a semi auto pistol in offhand goated duo fr
Probably because there are better weapons in the game.
Well... I kinda like it... I customized it with gold and put the hero cross... It's still a good gun but I use volcanic pistol and schofield revolver for gameplay
@@amirali31317I use either 2 cattleman’s or 1 with a sawed off
I love this gun. I always equip the short barrel to have a nice fun little pocket gun that does massive damage.
Weirdo
My first playthough set was Cattlemen.
I always upgraded my shotgun and rifle, but I kept useing the Cattlemen.
Shitgun
@solitudeguard2316 Its not shit.
It has the best firerate in the game, and it feels amazing to hipfire.
Every gun in the game is good, except maybe the Double-Action Revolver.
Edit: Sorry, I just got what you were refering to.
@@purple-eyessilverdrago6895the double action feels like you are shooting a toy gun
@guillermolopezjaime154 It does.
I'm belting my enemies with nerf darts with that shity revolver.
The cattlemen revolver is my favorite in RDR2
My life has been a lie because I have been pronouncing it like
“Skofield”💀
So true
That is the actual way you say it! I don't know if the voice actors didn't know, or it was maybe some intentional way of avoiding using the gun's real name but "Skofield" is the correct way to say it.
@@larkenkuznetsov3413 ohh!! Then I’m right then!
Because of prison break
As somebody who has Schofield in my family tree, yes, it's "Skofield". Same way nobody pronounces Los Santos the same way in GTA V. They just didn't prime the VAs.
I really appreciate Arthur instinctively ripping the barrel slightly off when finding one in the back of the valentine doctors office
I can never unsee this now lmao, did Rockstar just forget to finish the animation or something? 😂
@@DominoDivisionThey messed up the grip? It supposed to be a cylinder break animation.
@@DominoDivision Same as the swing out cylinder on a cattleman (John, epilogue)... they just didn't do their research. That's what happens when a bunch of Californians and Englishmen create a game with guns in it...
i feel like the annesburg gunsmith is the nicest NPC in the whole map from just the way he speaks when you have a clean gun
I liked using the lemat. Classy shotgun/revolver. Pain to reload, but still fun :)
LeMat goated
@@silentwulffff hear hear
That's not how you break a Schofield. There's a big-ass visible hinge right on the damn gun.
Depends on the version of "break" you mean, I guess.
I'm guessing they only had one animation for all the revolvers you find. It breaks the way it's supposed to when you reload it
0:03 thats most cursed thing that anyone has done to break-open revolver.
i think the animation is bugged it happened to me but i distinctively remember them opening it properly and all the way when the game first came out
i think an update some time ago broke it and it's using the wrong animation set
Arthur: Oh, I'm real excited to try this! Oh, and speaking of, this is a robbery!
That animation took me by surprise.
What the actual hell.
oh my god why did they cylinder swing out like that?? It's a top break!
I liked the LeMat more than the Schofield because it fires nine revolver rounds plus one shotgun round but since the LeMat came in late into the game, it doesn't have the same attachments that I formed with the Schofield revolvers.
It’d be funny if you bring this to the store where you stole this gun from, the shopkeeper would just say “Where did you get this from?!”.
Love the Schofield Revolver, my go-to sidearm. Usually wield one Schofield, and Otis Miller's Revolver (which is a unique version of the Schofield you can find).
Love the fact that Sheriff Bartlett's VA from Red Dead Revolver got to be the Tumbleweed gunsmith, Makes the Revolver fan in me really happy!
Good glimpse into how you talked your guns before the field became so technical
I'm a complete nerd for them myself, but it feels like everyone's trying to be an expert when I just like these beautiful machines.
I get what your saying completely but
It’s hard not to be condescending when you correct the same problem over and over again
What I mean by that is for example like I’ve had to correct countless people on 7.62x39 not being .308 diameter ITS .311 DIAMETER
And I end up getting snappy sometimes when people who just don’t know get defensive about it
but it’s important to remain calm in those situations (which I try to do)
Also sometimes you just get a RIDICULOUS statement or question and I can’t help but laugh
Like I had someone say to me the Sig 226 pistol shot .556 just no, no it doesn’t…😂
One of my most favorite guns in the game it is just so good
FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT FACTUAL INFORMATION ON THE .45 COLT v .45 SCHOFIELD:
Judging by the number of likes on this comment and the replies, I think this needs correction. The term "considerably weaker" is not accurate, at least I don't agree with "considerably".
I would like to preface this information that the difference between the 2 cartridges can be even further nullified (out of revolvers) if we're discussing modern loads using modern powders. But for the sake of the game, I'll assume you're talking about period-correct ammunition using black powder only.
As mentioned above, using modern loads, you can actually load both cartridges rather hot. What gun the cartdige is being used in plays into how hot it can be loaded. For example, a .45 colt can actually be loaded up to as hot or even hotter than .44 magnum loads *however*, this is not a possibility if you're going to be shooting it out of an old-school cowboy revolver such as the schofield or colt SAA. Such a load would explode the gun, since they're not designed for such pressures. This would be a load you'd fire out of a modern rifle or a Ruger Super Red Hawk revolver.
With the use of black powder only and remaining in the estimated 14500 PSI max pressure for most revolvers of this time, you can typically load the .45 colt 100-200 feet per second faster than the .45 schofield of equal bullet weight. While the extra boost in velocity is nice, and factually does make it carry more energy onto the target - exactly how much energy is not a huge difference, especially when it comes to hangun velocities.
The truth is that for most handgun cartridges with the exception of hotter magnum loads, all you're really doing is poking holes into your target. All of those gnarly exit wounds and pulverized flesh you hear about rarely ever exists with handguns due to their velocities. The truth of the matter is neither the colt .45 or .45 schofield cartridge is likely to even exit the human body from center mass impacts. They're simply not going fast enough - neither of them. While there is no hollow points in this time period, all bullets tend to mushroom on impact to some degree, giving them a slight level of expansion. Again however, neither cartidge is moving fast enough to reliably and consistently mushroom, even if it does sometimes. Not that mushrooming adds any extra damage really anyway, you'd really want to see expansion (hollowpoints) or fragmentation (velocity), both of which will not occur with such slow projectiles. Even if there were hollowpoints available for these bullets back in 1875, it wouldsn't matter. Both cartrdiges won't safely go past 900 FPS even with modern powder when fired from an old-school gun. Hollow points need over 1000 FPS to expand, and ideally pushing 1100 or more. This is why +P ammo is so common these days.
Because of this, the "percieved power" of the .45 colt over the .45 schofield is mathmaticall true, but when translated into real world scenarios, it makes no difference.
For this reason, claiming one of these rounds is "considerably more powerful" than the other is actually rather misleading. In actuality, if somebody was shot in the exact same spot with either bullet fired from a period-correct gun with period-correct load, the resulting damage would be identical.
Hope this helps and you guys found it interesting.
The Schofield revolver is legitimately my second favorite weapon in the game
It was only beaten by the M1899 because I love the more "futuristic" design of the pistol, but untill chapter 4 you know I only rock the Schofield
If the navy was in the story it’d be game over
@@guycampbell3530Bruh you can mail the guns to the single player camp. For fuck sake its on a loading screen…
I hate the swing-open cylinder animation they use. They do it again later with John’s cattleman. They also almost never cock the hammers on the revolvers in the cutscenes. It drives me crazy, lol.
Schofield revolver is my personal favourite weapon
This video made it clear to me how to correctly pronounce the name of this revolver 😮😮😮
The Schofield was sold to the US Army for $13.50 a piece. I’m sure that on the civilian market it was sold for about $20 - $30 per unit. But there is no way anybody in 1899 would buy a Schofield for $80+.
All the gun smiths are so good. I hope more of these come out for other weapons too! and other locations
0:15 I like the reference to the line in The Quick and the Dead here.
“I’m real excited to try this”
Makes me think of Unforgiven - the "Schofield Kid" 😁
I love how sometimes they break the revolver’s cylinder sideways as a gun nut that rubs me the wrong way but overall I’m very impressed with the realism of the guns in the game.
I only use the Schofield dual wield. I go through gun oil like m&m’s
The Schofield is always my go to gun when playing.
As bad as it can be for very long term use because of the weakpoints it has, it had a great place in history. One day I'll own one and buy five replacement parts.
Used these pretty much for the entire game. Just swapped them out for the LeMat with John.
I like that he breaks the revolver when he immediately finds it.
That first reaction is a reference to The Quick and the Dead gunstore scene i'm positive
Its funny how the action breaks to the side when you first pick it up from the box
The Schofield was made to be used on horseback, easier reloading. The only reason they didn't get the contract with the military was that The Cold .45 SAA (cattleman in game) could take .45 Long Colt AND the Schofield bullets, and the Schofield could only take its own, and the army already had lots of .45 LC.
In classic Army fashion, they ditched the Schofield revolvers and then ditched _the Colt ammunition_ because the lower power of Schofield round made the recoil more manageable.
The sch in Schofield is pronounced as you pronounce the sch in school
The Annesburg and the Valentine Gunsmith are the most cool of them all ❤❤
"i'm real excited to try this" *proceeds to point it at the shop owners head*
>Guy runs a shop full of guns
>Chooses to defend himself with a knife
00:12
"She shoots strong and straight, I wouldn't sell it if it didn't."
Quick and the Dead reference, gun shop scene
this thing costs over 3000$ in today's money.
I always cringe when they open the breach on the revolvers from the side lol. The Schofield is a break action and the cylinder on the Colt SAA doesn't open out from the side either, it only rotates. IDK how they screwed that up with all the meticulous detail they put in this game
I think The first one is a reference to Leonardo DiCaprios line in "The Quick and The Dead" it's way to similar
Pronounce it all you want as 'shofield' I will always pronounce it like 'Skohfield.'
This is how you know you got a good gun, when even the npc's are complimenting you.
I only used this a lot in RDR1 because it looks like the one in Trigun tbh.
Such a missed opportunity to not have a unique grip for the Schofield.
Bro checks his Schofield like a modern S&W with a swing out cylinder 💀💀
Last guy missed the chance to say "If I were in a duel, this would be my tool"
Alr ima go over how they sounds based off their reactions for no reason:
Valentine Gunsmith:Proud to sell and likes it.
Tumbleweed Gunsmith:nonchalant but still recommends it.
Saint Denis Gunsmith:Enjoys it and explains his joy of it.
Rhodes Gunsmith:explains a disadvantage but thinks it’s an advantage.
Annesburg Gunsmith:Highly recommends it and says he could win a duel with it.
why did thegun rotate the way it did when he opened it? its a break action revolver
Exactly my concern as well, like wtf wtf no that's not how this gun works lmao
Hold up I've been saying it wrong the entire time it's show field that sko field naw I'm still calling it Sko field
Yeah I've been saying sko field for more than thirty years. If I'm wrong, I don't wanna be right!
You have been saying it correctly. The game used different names and spelling to avoid trademark and copyright.
I have never in my life heard anyone pronounce the name schofield as showfield before
Arthur breaks the barrel of the gun to check if it's loaded
I constomized this with silver and gold and with engraving it is my favorite gun
I always use to use Schofields but now I stick with Cattlemans all through the game, I think its the best gun
Everyone loves schofields.
uh why does the cylinder swing out like that, not how they work they either broke from the top or the bottom depending on the model
I wonder if this is R* taking a dig at Winchester for not letting them use their name in the sequel.
That would be the Lancaster repeater, not Schofield Revolver. Winchester is a pretty well regarded location in England, being the former seat of power. Lancaster is a shithole.
@@NeverKetamine Lmao wtf are you talking about? These are all American guns and have nothing to do with England...
I didn’t even know they said stuff about guns like this
I literally have never heard any of these lines. I’ve played the game for like 1300 hours. I’ve played at at least every few weeks since the day it came out. What is happening!
Valentine's gunssmith talk about Schofield is actually reminding me the Kid's in "The quick and the dead": "The gun shoots straight, i wouldh't sell if it didh't"
I wish you could just listen to the dialogue of the guns you already own, I have no idea why that isn't an option. Just have have a "Can't buy a gun you already own" warning pop up and have them say something like "Sorry, that one is already reserved for another customer"
Saint denis gunsmith should be protected at all costs, such a sweet dude
*Real OGs use the Cattleman*
All the legendary cattleman's are the best revolvers.
I think it's hilarious that the gunsmith in Annesburg chases you with a knife...irony.
For info on the gun
The smith & wesson NO 3 top break revolver .45 long colt "the Scofield"
The revolver was a order from general Schofield of the US army this is were this version of the NO3 gets its name. General schofield wanted a no3 revolver chambered in .45 long colt from that day any no3 chambered in .45 long colt was called a Schofield revolver.
Popular revolvers in the US have always been the good old american colt but in canada for our .455 Weebly and .44 russian rounds we preferred the smith & Wesson triple lock revolver or the "new generation army" or the double action colt with swing out cylinders.
Colt at the time had so many orders rhat they sold their pattents to companies like cimarron firearms and more same for remington. Revolvers in the old west was in crazy high damand.
I'm pretty sure the Tumbleweed gunsmith is the sheriff from Red Dead Revolver
a gunsmith that protects himself with a knife
Tbh im very upset that they made the schofield do more damage than the cattlemen. They even gave the cattleman a faster reload speed despite that being completely unrealistic. The schofield had a smaller bullet due to sw veing unwilling to chamber their weapon in 45 colt because they didnt want people purchasing the larger superior cartridge
I wouldn't say the colt was superior. The Army ended up adopting the Schofield ammunition for all their Colt guns, and Browning based the 45 ACP off of it. Almost identical ballistics to 45 ACP
@astrotrek3534 mostly true but eventually the schofield was cast aside due to the military wanting more power in their hand guns, and yet Rockstar makes it the gun that does more damage while giving the colt a faster reload! It's literally backwards
Dear god did that break action revolver just have the cylinder swing out the side? Wtf?
Yeah, it's an oversight. That thing happens with all revolvers when you first pick them up like that, even though the double action is the only one that should actually be able to do it.
THESE ARE YOUR FINAL MOMENTS
*video ends*
Models giant swivel hinge on gun
Has it break open to the side
Bethesda
In real life the original s&w no3 revolver is weaker than the colt single action army because the 45 schofield round is shorter than the 45 colt so it cant hold as much powder as the colt.
that mf gunsmith from saint denis could upsale a bagel
The original smith and Wesson .45 revolver was not strong or reliable... The cartridge mechanism broke constantly during the early patent
0:03 casually opens break action revolver and breaks it in wrong way
It's the not first time shown in scene where characters supposed to hold semi-auto revolver because it's cylinder open from side, but what the heck man, this cylinder clearly doesn't open like that, and rockstar knew it
Whatever, whatever, still better than Starfield's with their 'Collective revolver' misinfo
Great gun used by some famous names. When I play I wield one in the main holster and the trusty cattleman in the off hand holster. It's a shame they chose the older yellow boy repeater in this game instead of the gun that won the west the winchester 1873. Odd that was in the first game but not this one
They really should’ve added Sharps rifle into the game, not enough love for the first sniper rifle, long before the Remington Rolling Block even existed.
0:18 that's a the quick and the dead reference
it is pretty good in both games
I didn’t know you could get them to comment on the guns!!
There's view option.
grrr... revolvers make me feel HAPPY
Hang on a second. How do you get them to describe the gun? Every time i bought guns in the game i just purchased them out of the book and they bring it to the table and dont say anything else
Well?? are you gonna answer? Haha just love react and dont comment further (🗿)
@@Alex-theez🗿
Press view can be buggy sometimes you have to leave and come right back
"These are your final moments" lmao He don't know Arthur to well.
Why in the hell did the animation team or whoever worked on it animate the revolver trying to swivel out to the side to check ammo? It's not mechanically possible. Same ignorance occurred in the epilogue when John pulled his cattleman revolver out from under the bed and the cylinder swiveled out. Beyond idiotic to include these animations and overlook the Schofields top break action and the colts loading gate like wtf the anims for reloading are in the game already
It's funny how they put small details like horse balls shrinking but overlooked this. Shows where their heads are at.