Falcon BMS ATC | Comm Ladder Radio Beginners Tutorial

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  • @AviationPlus
    @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks for watching. If you learned something let me know below!

    • @Cheiff117
      @Cheiff117 ปีที่แล้ว

      Finally thank you!! game is so hard for me , coming from dcs with5k hours, i can fly but the basics of the game itself, and setting up VR and controls was quite a pain

    • @musicmystro
      @musicmystro ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks mate, this is exactly what was needed. Props for refueling on the turn like that too, most impressive!

    • @xNightflyerx
      @xNightflyerx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your vids are always super helpful and really enjoyable ot watch.

    • @harveysimpson5167
      @harveysimpson5167 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The first 10 minutes of this video earned a lifetime subscribe from me. Thanks!

  • @gromm93
    @gromm93 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is super helpful for the complexities of ATC and other radio communications. Few other sims even touch on this, so it can be kind of a lot to learn for noobs.

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว

      There is defiantly something to learn when it comes to the ATC but some of us are already familiar with ATC IRL so it is an easy transition but for others it might not be. Thanks for watching.

    • @lebojay
      @lebojay 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m no noob. I’m coming back to Falcon BMS after several years away, but I have over 1000 hours in it … and this new stuff is still a lot to learn!

  • @aaronwhite1786
    @aaronwhite1786 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Definitely one of the toughest things to get used to when I added BMS to the rotation on top of DCS.
    With DCS, you don't really need to mess with comms outside of getting the tanker to let you refuel, but with the moving parts in BMS, you really needed to get that sorted out for all parts of the flight.

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It is something that you need to get used to. However, some of us are real pilots and it just make sense to us but for the majority it is not as intuitive. ATC in BMS isn't needed but it is when the airspace is very crowded or there is bad weather and you can't see the runway you will need some help to find it. Thanks for watching!

    • @aaronwhite1786
      @aaronwhite1786 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AviationPlus Ha, yeah. Always jealous of the real pilots, especially online.
      You never forget your first time trying to use comms on a multiplayer server when you're not a pilot. "Uhh...Falcon 1-1...2 ship...uhhh...leaving...shit, where am I?"

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yup this is true even in real life. The mic button turns off your brain.

    • @aaronwhite1786
      @aaronwhite1786 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AviationPlus Ha, that might be the best way to describe it. Just a brain reset key.

    • @hanzandfranz5337
      @hanzandfranz5337 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@aaronwhite1786 haha yep. I treat radio calls exactly like I handle talking to a cashier in a shop. I just repeat it a couple of times out loud if I have time, than go for it over the radio.

  • @mro9466
    @mro9466 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad you're still making these tutorials after all these years !

  • @Petidani0330
    @Petidani0330 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't know if you learned about this since making this video, but you don't need to type in the preset every single time you wish to switch frequencies. You just need to select the UHF data field on the DED CNI page with dobber switch up/down, then use the increment switch next to the dobber switch to change preset frequencies easily. It comes in really handy when you're switching ATC frequencies for take-off and landing, and you no longer have to prepare the next preset frequency like you did at 9:34.
    You can also change steerpoints with the same method, but of course you need to select the steerpoint data field on the DED CNI page before doing so. When I'm on BARCAP and I need to stay in the AO, I always just turn on A/P, then change the steerpoint back and forth with the increment switch. It's also incredibly useful when you have target steerpoints, you can rapidly switch between each target without having to manually type in those steerpoints. If you have GPS guided bombs, you can basically do the entire bomb-run in about 10 seconds this way, with multiple ground targets destroyed.

  • @khalidmurad5879
    @khalidmurad5879 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really helpful. More content please.

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching. I have a few tutorials lined up.

  • @bjorn.thorvaldson
    @bjorn.thorvaldson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super helpful! Thanks for sharing the knowledge. :)

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No problem. Sometimes it is difficult to understand how ATC works especially if you do not have an aviation background.

  • @marcintomczyk888
    @marcintomczyk888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wicked... you refueled with the stick while turning... :D Nice.

  • @HipHopAnonymous91
    @HipHopAnonymous91 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for these videos, very helpful! I know there are manuals and stuff that go into full detail but im sure im not the only one that learns better visually. Need to make a notebook with all of the essential controls until i memorize them. Love how in depth these sims are but also hate it at the same time 😄 learning curve is massive. I feel like when im done, I'll be able to hop into a real F-16/F-15 and know whats up lol.

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mapping your HOTAS are the most important buttons. There is a reason they are on the HOTAS in the first place.

  • @harveysimpson5167
    @harveysimpson5167 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    finally!!! Thank you!

  • @hexperience5842
    @hexperience5842 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    would like to know how to dial in freq. manually

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Comm 1 or 2 then start typing a number and obviously press enter.

  • @riccisj
    @riccisj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, great video. Your altitude indicator looks digital - are you using a cockpit mod? By the way came across this content listening to The Tactical Frequency podcast!

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is not a mod it is just a different F-16 for the Hellenic Air Force (Greek) Blk 52. Awesome good to hear you heard about me from the Tactical Frequency. It is a great show and always looking forward to the next one.

  • @Notbigbird
    @Notbigbird ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you know what it means when they say a missed approach? The other day it happened where every time I was on final they told me missed approach and to go around. I don’t know if I did something wrong or something else happened.

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you are told that it means that there is traffic close to you and they are telling you to perform a missed approach in other words go around and try again.

    • @Notbigbird
      @Notbigbird ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AviationPlus ohhhhh thank you so much! Also great video!

  • @callsignnictmere465
    @callsignnictmere465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the coms lesson it is VERY helpful. What map is that? 👍38

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you liked it. It is not 4.38 it is 4.37.2 EMF (Eastern Mediterranean Front). I hoped someone would notice I used a little something different than Korea.

    • @VLSG
      @VLSG ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Woah two of my favorites here lol

    • @callsignnictmere465
      @callsignnictmere465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VLSG Always good to hear from VLSG

  • @daveslow84
    @daveslow84 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this, just wanting to get into BMS :) also... DCS REALLY needs to get a grip on their rubbish ATC :D

  • @esunmanta3988
    @esunmanta3988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    since you usually ask for feedback I will tell you something. This video is very good and is up to date but it is a subject already covered that is in the training missions manual and in some videos on TH-cam. After a few weeks watching tutorials, reading the manuals (the importance of reading the threat manual or having the charts on hand for the ils in bad weather is not usually emphasized), I think what is needed is someone who played a campaign and analyzed the micromanagement of it in 2d. From the beginning to the end. And IF possible several campaigns because each one advances in a different way. There are videos but only un the first day and the needs change as the campaign progresses. This is the point that gives us more playability and fun (I also fly online but many newbies don't take the plunge). The thing is that if you play ace to get the medals you have to avoid suicide squads, change priorities and change mission types as the campaign progresses. This micromanagement is frustrating because you don't know what to do and yes, I know a very detailed video came out recently explaining the logic of the campaign and priorities from day one but not throughout its evolution. This is not a trivial issue, in fact, update 3 comes with improvements in this regard. Anyway, it's an idea, I think it could help many players. I guess the priorities change depending on the direction the campaign is moving. Another subject rarely covered in the tutorials is weapons. I mean, we know how to fire the main armaments but we don't know the differences between all the cbu, gbu, etc. Which one is better to destroy some supply trucks, which one is more effective for tanks, which one is better for ships. This would not be a difficult video to make, just open the game dropdown and see bomb by bomb explaining what it is effective for. Well, they are ideas, things that I can't find and I miss as a newbie. Thanks for your videos.

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว

      Most do not like to read the manual and others don't want to watch a video that is more than 5 minutes, but want to get really good at flying. I am not sure about the following and teaching what to do as a campaign goes on, that just might be personal preference and learning what mission to perform and predicting if it is possible and not mission impossible.
      I am liking the weapons video that you explained that would be a pretty good video. I am familiar with the weapons and know what to use when but creating a video will force me to have a better understanding. Thank you for your comment and feedback.

    • @esunmanta3988
      @esunmanta3988 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AviationPlus I'm glad you like the idea. Thanks for the videos.

  • @paladincubano
    @paladincubano 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do we need always press Comms plan button in the Data Cartidge each time before take off? Im confused I thing I heard another YT saying in the latest updates this is no longer required.

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paladincubano Yes click it each time before takeoff. How else would you get the correct comms.

  • @charliepirhonen9734
    @charliepirhonen9734 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm just getting into BMS. Will I need a real notepad to quickly reference this stuff when i fly with others?

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you remember all of it? Notepad might be a good idea.

  • @kevink526
    @kevink526 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks like a few times you changed your comm without using the mouse and clicking the keys on the screen. What are the keyboard keys or were you using buttons on your Hotas?

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I map the ICP to the Number pad and the Dobber to the arrow keys.

  • @Fenrir_Foehammer
    @Fenrir_Foehammer 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is there a vr communications setting? What stops me from fully switching to bms is being unable to key bind to my Hotas for communications. Unless I’m overlooking something. All comms are highlighted green and can’t add binds

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yup Comm binds are hard coded. First I don't use VR and second I play multiplayer so I am not much help in that regard. Most use voice attack from comms with VR.

    • @Fenrir_Foehammer
      @Fenrir_Foehammer 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@AviationPlus Yeah it really is too bad that they can't be added to a joystick key bind. Voice attack just doesn't work for me, but thanks for replying.

  • @rakamora2266
    @rakamora2266 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What theater is this?

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว

      EMF Eastern Mediterranean Front

  • @PatrickJamesBeckett
    @PatrickJamesBeckett ปีที่แล้ว

    how to see tower view flyby ?

  • @mrwealthyhobo
    @mrwealthyhobo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I found a sticker for your channel ;)

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว

      You found a sticker for my channel or from my channel? Where was it?

    • @mrwealthyhobo
      @mrwealthyhobo ปีที่แล้ว

      An F22@@AviationPlus

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrwealthyhobo The F22 out side the AMU at Nellis?

    • @mrwealthyhobo
      @mrwealthyhobo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AviationPlus ED

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrwealthyhobo Oh ya most of those are tagged.

  • @elielmopimentel601
    @elielmopimentel601 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the news about the 4.38?

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว

      Must have missed the video I created. th-cam.com/video/cCrPJKYAdA4/w-d-xo.html

  • @VLSG
    @VLSG ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you go through AI flight commands? What are, and how exactly do the AI execute combat directives? I often notice a lot of strange behavior and variation in their actions.

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว

      In the Comm Nav manual pg 36 it covers every command you can give to the AI. Thanks for watching

  • @andrewbergman9315
    @andrewbergman9315 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How to manage the comms in VR though?

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewbergman9315 Some use Voice Attack for voice commands.

  • @kevink526
    @kevink526 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    …oh, and are you using a trackIR?

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am using TrackIR

  • @Crus4der.
    @Crus4der. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello! What's the mssion please?

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no mission.

    • @Crus4der.
      @Crus4der. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AviationPlusbut when you talked about Q AWACS Commands you were in a hanger, is that a map? mission?

  • @Jptoutant
    @Jptoutant 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    whenever i try to contact the tower nothing happens

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you perform a click dance?
      Are you on UHF 2?
      Are your radios on?

  • @ebubekircagrsen7824
    @ebubekircagrsen7824 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we join your team?

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว

      Join Falcon Lounge or UOAF Discord. These a re just two of the handful of Falcon BMS Discord servers.

  • @Dcscockpit
    @Dcscockpit 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know everyone blabs about how much better this is than dcs because they have a dynamic campaign, but why on earth can’t they work on the cockpit textures and terrain? That’s all part of the experience

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Games can have the best graphics but if the game play and experiences are trash people won't play long. However, if the gameplay and experiences are top notch people will keep coming back to play more.
      Most feel that DCS doesn't have any actual replayability and BMS has the experience that keeps you busy not allowing for time to sight see.
      I always try to place DCS but it feels empty and creating missions takes forever.

    • @gmailcgs
      @gmailcgs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Go play Microsoft flight simulator if you Like pretty graphics

  • @259559ful
    @259559ful 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I learnt nothing😢

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@259559ful RIP

  • @marcquintin7855
    @marcquintin7855 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too fast bro

    • @AviationPlus
      @AviationPlus  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can rewind it is not live. Either way what questions do you have.

    • @marcquintin7855
      @marcquintin7855 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AviationPlus No worries all is good, thanks for the video

  • @kevink526
    @kevink526 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    …oh, and are you using a trackIR?