my question is for the University itself. How many estimators, are actually technicians? rhetorical question... None! because the insurance company does not want people who know how to fix cars to estimate cars. an experienced technician can repair a lot more than an estimator will allow. Because one knows how, and the other doesn't. Once Upon a Time, the technician was the estimator. and this caused problems for the insurance company. I remember the day, when we used to work with the customer and the insurance company. Now we are forced to work for the insurance company. And there isn't a single liability waiver in sight. and I have heard it stated many times by either shop owners or insurance company Adjusters... If you don't do what we tell you to do you will be fired and replaced with somebody at half your wage. but they only do this to these people who are weak technicians. the technician that totally needs his job to support his family and his household. and of course he does exactly what he's told. because he thinks, and is programmed to feel, that his company is looking out for his best interest. in reality, he is the first one who's ass gets hung out to dry when somebody dies in these cars. this is why there are so few qualified technicians in the repair Market. because a lot of them end up working for somebody else for the rest of their lives. And they're not going to be able to do that working for the insurance company. They're forced to get jobs and other places for lower wages. And all because an estimator is putting a position above the technician. all the people who know nothing about cars. Are the ones in charge. And this is the way the insurance company needs it to be in order to promote how good of a neighbor they are at taking 15% or more from the shop.
Reel Tech you deal with the misinformed customer, you deal with the insurance, you deal with the dumbass body man but calls himself a technician losin parts or worse breaking them because he doesn’t know how to properly r&i and is mr. “One time use”, you deal handling 75 cars a month doin that same process and headache. Oh wait, you can’t, you just feel like your gods gift to the industry, you’re replaceable like everyone else. We can work together, or you can have that same shitty attitude to an estimator, or better yet, what you hate to hear, your boss, just shut the fuck up do what I tell you with a smile or I’ll find another tech to team up with. Plain and simple, we can help eachother out, or you can continue to have your shitty carcinogenic attitude. You’re on commission like us. You’re choice
So basically if youve repaired vehicles you know the cost and you can find more and more problems upping the actual cost to repair the vehicle, in hindsight that cost is what the insurance company will have to pay . The insurance company doesn't want to pay for the little problems and labor cost which causes a dispute between the shop and the insurance company so the shop owner will get mad at the technician/estimator and basically force him to not be so technical to avoid conflict ?
I once hit a deer in my 64 Pontiac at 80 miles an hour. that deer knocked the N out of my Pontiac. and I kept right on going. I do however have a freezer full of venison. but that's the difference between having a car made out of Detroit Steel, and these plastic pieces of crap pop cans that they make now. and by the way, I got my N, Out of the junkyard for a dollar fifty.
We are a Car Rental company in Mexico in great need of collision estimate solutions. We have already talked to the Audatex people but would like to have more alternatives. Any others you may recomend?
Miguel Angel Torroella Not sure what other systems would be available that cover the models in Mexico. The data base of cars and parts is the hardest part of any software system. I'll make some calls.
The M-B under rode the back of a service truck and the headlamps, core support, AC condenser, Radiator, cooling fans, grille and hood panel were replaced. The vehicle experienced structural damage to the left and right side upper uni-rails.
Nice Video clip! Forgive me for chiming in, I am interested in your thoughts. Have you tried - Patlarny Vehicle History Principle (should be on google have a look)? It is an awesome one of a kind product for discovering how to repair your car the simple way without the hard work. Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my cooworker after a lifetime of fighting got great results with it.
and I hate to say this... the estimating process is a complete waste of time. Irregardless of what estimating system you use. Or how you use it. not to mention an incredible waste of money. Your insurance company is only going to pay to pack it's ass in duraglass and send it down the road.
Thanks for watching and glad you found value in our video.
I just finished auto body collision technology school. Looking forward to working in this field.
Thanks for all the informative videos.
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Larry Montanez, P&L Consultants takes former Insurance trainer and DRP manager Kristen Felder through an estimating exercise on front end damage.
Collision Hub all you needed was me there to do a complete teardown and sort the damaged parts and good parts into 2 separate piles ECT
insurance be like: "yeah its a total loss we're keeping it"
Na not this car. Mercedes keep a good amount of value so the threshold is much higher.
my question is for the University itself. How many estimators, are actually technicians? rhetorical question... None! because the insurance company does not want people who know how to fix cars to estimate cars. an experienced technician can repair a lot more than an estimator will allow. Because one knows how, and the other doesn't. Once Upon a Time, the technician was the estimator. and this caused problems for the insurance company. I remember the day, when we used to work with the customer and the insurance company. Now we are forced to work for the insurance company. And there isn't a single liability waiver in sight. and I have heard it stated many times by either shop owners or insurance company Adjusters... If you don't do what we tell you to do you will be fired and replaced with somebody at half your wage. but they only do this to these people who are weak technicians. the technician that totally needs his job to support his family and his household. and of course he does exactly what he's told. because he thinks, and is programmed to feel, that his company is looking out for his best interest. in reality, he is the first one who's ass gets hung out to dry when somebody dies in these cars. this is why there are so few qualified technicians in the repair Market. because a lot of them end up working for somebody else for the rest of their lives. And they're not going to be able to do that working for the insurance company. They're forced to get jobs and other places for lower wages. And all because an estimator is putting a position above the technician. all the people who know nothing about cars. Are the ones in charge. And this is the way the insurance company needs it to be in order to promote how good of a neighbor they are at taking 15% or more from the shop.
Reel Tech
you deal with the misinformed customer, you deal with the insurance, you deal with the dumbass body man but calls himself a technician losin parts or worse breaking them because he doesn’t know how to properly r&i and is mr. “One time use”, you deal handling 75 cars a month doin that same process and headache. Oh wait, you can’t, you just feel like your gods gift to the industry, you’re replaceable like everyone else. We can work together, or you can have that same shitty attitude to an estimator, or better yet, what you hate to hear, your boss, just shut the fuck up do what I tell you with a smile or I’ll find another tech to team up with. Plain and simple, we can help eachother out, or you can continue to have your shitty carcinogenic attitude. You’re on commission like us. You’re choice
Reel Tech wow 👏👏👏
Good read
So basically if youve repaired vehicles you know the cost and you can find more and more problems upping the actual cost to repair the vehicle, in hindsight that cost is what the insurance company will have to pay . The insurance company doesn't want to pay for the little problems and labor cost which causes a dispute between the shop and the insurance company so the shop owner will get mad at the technician/estimator and basically force him to not be so technical to avoid conflict ?
Estimator here, I will take your advice
Repair man......Yaaaaaaaaaaa it will be about $15,0000 to get all that needs to be fixed, will that be cash or credit?
Did not see anything selected on estimating system. Herd the typical get it in the shop and let the tech write the estimate
I once hit a deer in my 64 Pontiac at 80 miles an hour. that deer knocked the N out of my Pontiac. and I kept right on going. I do however have a freezer full of venison. but that's the difference between having a car made out of Detroit Steel, and these plastic pieces of crap pop cans that they make now. and by the way, I got my N, Out of the junkyard for a dollar fifty.
We are a Car Rental company in Mexico in great need of collision estimate solutions. We have already talked to the Audatex people but would like to have more alternatives. Any others you may recomend?
Miguel Angel Torroella Not sure what other systems would be available that cover the models in Mexico. The data base of cars and parts is the hardest part of any software system. I'll make some calls.
what kind of software is she using in her computer? what's the name?
I noticed this is part 2. Where can I find part 1 ? Can you tell us what was damaged on this Benz ? Great Video !
The M-B under rode the back of a service truck and the headlamps, core support, AC condenser, Radiator, cooling fans, grille and hood panel were replaced. The vehicle experienced structural damage to the left and right side upper uni-rails.
Thanks Eric, part 1 is here on the TH-cam, Estimating Front End Collisions
Larry is da bomb
was this car a total loss? if not why not?
Great video Larry! Thanks!
Can one of you guys give me a estimate will show video 2015 Altima sv
great video
Jig set up?
is the cost lower if its not a mercedes
Theresa B normally ,, YES lol
nah fam im just trynna win a skillsusa competition for estimating
Oh my God just give the fkin quote
They still didn’t give an estimate smh
Estimate process is 2 1/2 hours long.
We have estimating courses you can register for if your wanting to see a final estimate
@@Collisionhub Some people don't have a clue lol great job
Nice New York accent.
she's not even paying attention to what he's saying she's just playing games on her stupid tablet
Talking to much blah blah blah get to it with out making us fall asleep dude damn
What a POS these Mercedes. Just designed to empty your wallet. Go Lexus and you'll never regret it!
Why is that? Whats good about it when you need a qoute for fixing a front end damage to your lexus car?
Nice Video clip! Forgive me for chiming in, I am interested in your thoughts. Have you tried - Patlarny Vehicle History Principle (should be on google have a look)? It is an awesome one of a kind product for discovering how to repair your car the simple way without the hard work. Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my cooworker after a lifetime of fighting got great results with it.
and I hate to say this... the estimating process is a complete waste of time. Irregardless of what estimating system you use. Or how you use it. not to mention an incredible waste of money. Your insurance company is only going to pay to pack it's ass in duraglass and send it down the road.
well , I have met Billy,via linked in, I am doing the same in the Uk,and much much more, my website will be up very soon www.motorclaimguru.co.uk
Seems like alot..hope your wealthy
he looks like john gottis son
Witness protection
Bring out the toilet paper