Quebec Mosque Shooting: Manufacturing a Conspiracy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.พ. 2017
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Y'know, the untrue side.
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The 5 stages of right-wing nationalists:
Stage 1 - Denial
Stage 2 - Denial
Stage 3 - Denial
Stage 4 - Denial
Stage 5 - Denial
Missing an anger here
Without meth somewhere between 4 and 5 it just looks empty.
stage 6 - genocide
yet it works so well, too well in fact.
Where's the deflection/projection stage?
If you say "Imagine my shock" three times to a mirror at midnight, Paul Joseph Watson will appear and call you a snowflake.
Strange Days I've tried this every night for half a year now. I'm beginning to wonder if your comment was actually a joke.
Jrezky keep at it, bucko you don't want to be like those lazy immigrant welfare queens do you
DoveTattoos Damn it, when you're right, you're right.
Heck, I can just do that by clicking on one of his videos. At any time of the day and no incantation required!
oh come on everbody hes just made up to scare gay kids lol
>Barely any information is out about the case
Conservatives: “ITS OBVIOUSLY A MUSLIM”
>more information is released but it shows a Muslim isn’t to blame
Conservatives: “we need more information to make a decision”
That's Conservatives hypocrisy 101 and they constantly get away with it.
@@tarik6990 No Conservative Hypocrisy 101 is saying that you're against big government but then advocating for giving the state power to kill people.
@@internetperson9813 That's a whole different topic and it's also an example of conservative hypocrisy of course.
These guys aren’t conservatives, they’re fascists.
@@Someone-ds8zm They are fascists of course but they hide behind the conservative label more often than not.
Hatred is one hell of a drug.
Well, when you start taking 30mg of over the counter DeathToTheJews you'd be surprised just how fast you become addicted to it.
braintickle Cocaine is one hell of a drug reference?!
Marvelous name i can only agree with.
Username. 😎
I've always considered hate an STD, a Socially Transmitted Disease.
"Allahu Akbar" is also said by Muslims as a "oh my god". Its not surprising that someone may have said that. Let alone say it in a Mosque during prayer time.
why are you lying? it would make no sense as "greater than your God" because the whole point of our religion is that there is only one God. Seriously where do you guys come up with this stuff?
Dave B. God is the greatest. Not God is greater than your God. You are literally taking a sentence from another language which is very clear and basic and then lying about it. Quick hurl 50 more falsities hoping something sticks. You are a liar.
well heres the thing, the phrase jesus akbar(which you got wrong btw, allah means god in general, not the muslim god specifically, since most Christians refer to there god as simply god, the christian version would also be allah akbar) is not the part that would offend me but the murder, when you have to tack murder onto something to make it seem bad the originals probobly not actually bad, you mightaswell be saying "oh you dont have a problem with someone saying "killing two birds with one stone" what if i said it while beating you to death with a rock?"
someone percieving something as bad and something being bad are two different things, your literally baseing your argument on feelings, i could walk onto a plane with a shirt that reads "i like toast" in arabic and some dumbass would think it means im part of isis, also probably the same reason people refer to him as jesus christ when speaking english despite christ being a tittle not part of his name and the proper way to say it in english would be jesus the anointed, or jesus the savior/redeemer, also no its not saying one particular view of god(particularly since again, it doesent refer to one specific view of god in the first place) is better but that god, the entity, is the greatests, which by definition as an omnipotent god, is true for any monotheistic belief
Dave B.
Allahu Akbar means God is greatest, as in greater than everything else. The meaning you just made up doesn't make any sense because Islam does not even acknowledge other Gods.
As for the phrase itself, it's used multiple times during a prayer, so it's anything but surprising to have heard it near a mosque.
"Probably a recent convert"
Yeah, you have to wait at least 3 days before they hand you your standard issue bomb vest and beard. (eyeroll)
lol
I still haven't received my Avtomat Kalashnikov and RPG 7 yet
@@fulcrum2951 If you're American you have to bring your own.
Where tf is my bazooka?
@@thrawnprotocol9780 They say that you have to buy the deluxe edition to get one smh
Rebel media when it's a white guy: "I wanna know more aboot the guy, I wanna know more aboot the family, I wanna know more aboot the cloths he was wearing, I wanna know more about what he had for breakfast this morning."
Rebel media when it's a brown guy: "aahhh case closed, knew it all along bloody immigrants!"
So canada has an internal 'not being nice' conundrum?
bluewaffle 45 That doesn’t really address Pussy Lord’s point...
No one is doubting that black people are overrepresented in crime statistics, the point in that a black person suspected of a crime doesn’t get the benefit of a doubt.
Black people being overrepresented in crime stats doesn’t translate to every random black suspect being guilty. Facts matter more than your bias.
Most Canadians don’t know about rebel media. It is more popular with Americans.
@@bobsjepanzerkampfwagen4150 Um... [Citation Needed]?
He didn't like whole grain pancakes! His mom gave him whole grain pancakes! That's why!
*links Steven Molynuex video
Free republic looks like it hasn't been updated since 98
rascalpod833 ohhh....buurrrnnn
I wonder if they realize that President Clinton didn't hold on to the presidency and that we've had three presidents since him.
*98 CE
And their ideology hasn't been updated since 39
Forum communities generally look like that, nhentai for example
This also reminded me of my favourite forum Islamophobia moment.
I had joined a very public discussion board (not naming names) shortly before the Anders Breivik attacks. There was one particularly high-profile far-right Islamophobe on the board back in 2011 (there seem to be a hundred of them now), and he spent the entire day loudly proclaiming that it can only be Muslims responsible (he seemed to be swayed by the choice of target and the use of a car bomb as a diversionary attack - because I guess the IRA never existed).
When it was eventually being widely circulated that the attacker was a snow-white Aryan-looking far-right Islamophobic mentalist who thought himself a Crusader of the modern era, the guy quit the board in disgust.
Good times.
There's no end to the disgusting corruption of morals done by Islamophobic right-wingers. When i looked at contemporary videos about the Breivik attack i saw edgy comments talking about how he was a "hero" for raising attention to the danger of Muslim immigration. Apparently to them it's ok to brutally gun down about 80 defenseless young teenagers as long as it's done in the name of Anti-islamic thought and nationalism. Absolutely sick people. Don't they realize that they disregard the dignity of human life just like ISIS, the very group they claim to be against? What is happening to the world?
El Aquapimp Haha wow you’re such an "rational" ""sceptic"" """moderate"""
@El Aquapimp
Right Winger: Says something incredibly stupid
Rational human beings: calls him out for saying that stupid thing
Right Winger: Ur just jealous lol
JammyD2579 my islamophobia experience IRL happened when I was in middle school. My city is called a sanctuary city cuz of its asylum status for various immigrants, so we have some middle eastern people, including Muslims, and a few families from Egypt. I went to school with one of these Egyptian-American kids in my grade, named Seif, and he was in honors, debate and chess club and was overall a pretty normal nerdy kid. Unfortunately my class also had a racist dick named Michael who would harass him and basically accuse him of being a terrorist purely for his ethnicity and religion. He was terrible to him for months, and Seif responded of course, as most people would, by being upset and insulting him back. Kinda fueled the fire unfortunately however. Eventually I got fed up with the bigotry and interrupting my attempt to catch up on math homework and I leg-swept Michael to get Seif's notebook back one day. (Don't attack bigots, kids, I had anger issues). I told Michael I did taekwondo when he said some sexist shit in response, and awhile later, Seif and some of his family members joined my dojeong. I have no idea if what I did was any impact on their decision to learn self-defense but I'm glad they did, as it may, horribly, be needed, given the state of the country.
Ivan Ivanovich Ivanovosky islamophobia is fearing every Islamic person based on their race and or religion
A form of racism
"why haven't they published all their details???!!!"
Americans are so used to their entertainment news that they don't understand that it's not the way it's done everywhere else in the world.
Smugly saying "give us more info" before any info is concrete, and then saying "give us more info 🤔🤔🤔" when the information doesn't fit their narrative.
Amazing.
Hey dont judge us
@@johnbarker256 i'm an american and i judge us pretty harshly... far too many of us want bombastic outrage instead of actual information, then the ever growing pool of idiots scream conspiracy when the facts contradict the white noise they heard first.
@@petriew2018 white noise, in both meanings of the word
Unfortunately, thanks to social media, you can now see that pretty much everywhere in the world.
I'm a white man from Quebec who's merely a couple years older than the shooter and live 15 minutes away from where it took place.
It was surreal. It was a life changing experience.
I was shocked and pained that people still blamed the muslims AFTER it was confirmed that Bissonnette did it and surrendered himself.
I tried talking about it to people and I couldn't even find the words to express how profoundly f*cked and unfair that was.
I lived in Quebec City for 20 years and moved away after this bullshit. I don't regret it at all, that city is a big fascist ceasepool.
@@crcker3841 Nobody here is arguing that Quebec is worse than Saudi Arabia and it's not a competition so whatever argument you're trying to push holds no water.
@@tarik6990 what argument
@@crcker3841 This argument that somehow Quebec is worse than Saudi Arabia. Literally nobody said or insinuated that. You can be critical of both Quebec AND Saudi Arabia, there are two distinct societies who each have their own problelms.
@@tarik6990 im not arguing that saudi arabia is worse than quebec, i have made no arguments
"as a western culture, we have one question: name please?"
uh... most western democracies do not release names of suspects. at all. you know, because they might be innocent. or because we might want to reintegrate them into society after they server their time, instead of almost guaranteeing them to become reoffenders.
Precisely. Western societies that give a shit about, you know, biasing a jury, don't release suspects names.
It's not about releasing the name. You don't understand what he is saying and are complaining
@@k.n.6057 because what he is saying is dumb as shit in this i stance. even withoutthe names, they often release photos of the people. of people who were not convicted. it's extremely primitive and idiotic.
@@jurgnobs1308 again proving that you're missing the point completely. He's not talking about an authority giving names or photos.
Do I completely agree with his point? No, there are nuances to be layed of course.
@@k.n.6057 he literally, EXPLICITLY, does.
The worst is when the guy finally had his trial (I'm a quebecer btw, so I followed the affair on the media), a lot of people were saying his sentence was too severe and were sympathizing with him... Yikes!!! I was so shooked! I mean... He killed innocent people, but simply because they're muslims, their lives don't count or something??? As a quebecer I am completely ashamed of that islamophobic sentiment rising here...
I feel exactly the same way man. Lets hope we get some better choices in the next elections. Honestly none of the provincial parties seem really interesting right now.
@@thomasouellet4655 Yeah I know... Let's vote for some leftist at least ;p
@@princeollie1022 wait what voting works. Damn
@@awildmalik9000 Yeah not exactly either, but it's better to vote than not. When you don't vote, you risk giving powers to the ones you know you don't want to see in power. I always vote the most leftist party in hope that one day it'll pass, that's the least I can do.
@@princeollie1022 Why is islamophobia bad if they kill so many people?
"Because police really like muslims" That's the best joke I have heard in a long time! Wait... what do you mean they don't mean it as a joke?
Mercy Segen
Oh those police officers, always mistaking their water pistols for their guns
You just have to laugh sometimes
Silly police officers, kneeling on someone's neck for 9 minutes while they say they can't breathe, they probably just did it by mistake. We still think it's a good idea that we give them the right to legally kill people tho.
This video is really encouraging and it's for the very first time I have seen a TH-cam comment section full of people that are not peddling bigotry. Thank You
@Accelerationist 😂
woh man those people have as much credibility as their miserable exists in real world
It never ceases to amaze me just how garbage Rebel Media is.
I would rather shit myself than spend 1 second watching Rebel media, which they're now calling alternative media.
@@rickrolld1367 isnt that just another word for rebel lol
There's something really fishy about this. It's incredibly fishy. I think the shooter was actually a fish.
It's hilarious that, instead of saying "If the police haven't released the names, how do we know them?" they say "If we know them, how haven't the police released the names?"
Allahu Akbar simply means "God is Greater."
Muslims use it for many, many different kinds of things. You'll hear it a lot during stressful situations, they're essentially just yelling "Dear God!"
They probably never cared enough to pay attention to Arabic words, but will definitely look up what words mean when it is another language.
I've heard people use this translation as a argument that Islam is inherently supremacist i.e. our God is greater than the Christian or Jewish God... apparently forgetting that Islam, Judaism and Christianity all have the same God and the phrase obviously means "God is greater... than all of us" basically the same sentiment expressed in The Lord's Prayer
@@theomegajuice8660 This argument is especially baffling to me because Islam, Christianity, and Judaism all share the exact same god in their literature. “Allah” is literally just “God” in Arabic
@@beanburrito4405 they’re the original Abrahamic religions after all.
@@razi_man oh no they know arabic words when it benefits them. Sometimes actually they will tell you about the word "takiya" which to most Arabs means hat but they insist it's a doctrine that requires everybody to lie to non Muslims for the sake of world domination. I was born and raised Muslim and never heard this word until I was told by a right wing dude that I was just lying because it's my religion and the practice is called takiya. Like lol ok bud keep getting ur info about Islam from islamophobes
I noticed the same thing when it comes to the protests in Paris. As far as I know they're just protesting about police brutality, but the far right says there is a civil war in france with no evidence at all.
Brave rabbit and the protesters are all refugees, of course.
Tavi ! It's funny how all of these right wingers care about male rape victims whenever female rape victims are brought up. But when a black man is raped by a police officer they're mad at the protesters instead of the rapist. They have no principles or morality whatsoever.
AngieLavovska At a discussion on Facebook about it, one guy just said "the police is just doing their job and this would never happen in germany".
It's laughable at best, scary at it's worst.
Tavingrad if only their was a civil war
Shaun, rebel media has a video still defending Roosh. The guy that is a confessed rapist.
I put a comment there, Long one explaining a tad bit about the guy they were defending with evidence from his book on violating women.
The day after, it disappeared.
And Roosh is still verified on Twitter. Left controlled media my ass
LOL at Gavin McInnes, who looks like an off-duty Victorian strongman, accusing Justin Trudeau of 'wearing silly costumes'
@@SniperDizzyJohny Average hipster? Dude he was the first hipster
Gavin is a buffoon, and a thug.
10/10 insult, haha
I'm a guy from Québec. A little bit of follow-up on that case.
Up until last year, there were still comments and conspiracies in the right-wing groups of Québec like "La Meute" and "Storm Alliance" that Bissonette and the other muslim guy were actually lovers and that the muslim guy was probably shunned by his community and the attack was most likely planned by both but Trudeau covered-up the story to accuse the Québécois of being racists.
Or, without being so "fanfic" about it, were still asking "where was the second shooter".
Second shooter theory that was just born out of the lack of professionalism of TVA, our local equivalent to FOX news, who took the testimony of a guy who saw another guy entering and then fleeing the mosque, but still hanging out looking suspicious.
The guy, Khadir, was just a passerby who saw what was going on and called the police and stayed, while keeping low profile to avoid being shot. You know, like anybody who is a witness trying to help would do.
So they took a witness' impression of another witness and "confirmed that there was another shooter".
So yeah, that's only ONE of the origins of the fake news that are going on in Québec about the event.
But now, Bissonnette has finally recieved his judgement in court. He is to have life sentence without possibility of liberation for 40 years.
The families of the victims wanted more (Because you know, families of victims ALWAYS want more for the murderer of their loved ones. That's something we always see).
Many columnists and bloggers then used the declaration of the muslim families as a "proof" that they don't like our justice system and the just want to apply Shariah Law. Many took pity for the murderer, they gave a platform to his parents who were pleading for him and meanwhile, another man who commited a similar atrocity got life sentence without possibility of liberation for 25 years.
The main difference: The other man who got life / 25 is 70 years old. Bissonnette is like 19. The judges decided to give the possibility of liberation taking their age into account since if you do life at 70, you'll probably die in prison anyways. But well there's another complication of contradictions between what the law says and other legal precedent.
But islamophobes would hear none of it and many are now happy that Bissonnette is appealing his sentence.
Why do you think Québécois has become so islamaphobic compared to Anglo Canada? Would you say it’s the tensions with Anglo Canada and the need to be different? Alt right insurgencies? Your version of Fox News? Nationalism? I’m just an American so correct me if I’m wrong and they’re on the same level as islamophobe as the rest of Canada but that was the impression I’ve gotten.
@@briannawaldorf8485 I’m from Ontario but my entire family is Quebecois, so I know this problem first hand and have my observations and theories. I’ll try and give my take on it (please note when I say “Quebecois” or “they” from here on I’m talking about the undercurrent of Quebecois society that has a bigotry problem, so if you need to hear this in order to entertain my perspective, #notallquebeckers);
Secularity is a core tenant of Québécois cultural identity and has been for a long time (they call it laïcité to be more specific), in the past the Catholic Church had immense power inside the province and a history of abuses has made it so that the idea of another religion taking anything close to the dominance catholicism used to have, no matter how irrational it might be, absolutely terrifying to these islamophobes , so they will discriminate with impunity to avoid that, advocating against any more Muslim immigrants, enacting laws forbidding public expression of faith in public servants, etc.
Quebec cares about freedom FROM religion (besides the existing catholic holdovers, those are fine because they’re not new I guess), not so much freedom OF religion. If it will “protect” them from theocracy then discrimination of religious minorities is completely acceptable to them.
In the same sense you’ll sometimes see anti-immigration sentiments in general that often end up pointed specifically at POC and can turn racist real quick. Again, assimilation is very important to them, they don’t care about accusations of cultural erasure because they’ve been primed from a history of minority status inside Canada to do anything to preserve *their* culture (others be damned), any possible sign of attack from English Canada or other “outsiders” is met with harsh pushback, so because I’m from English Canada I can’t call their racists racist without being an “anti-Quebec imperialist” and the new arrivals can’t voice their concerns without being “ungrateful for what they’ve been given”.
To sum it up, Quebec has been treated like garbage through most of their history (and only better, not good, into the present day), which makes them irrationally careful of more mistreatment to the detriment of the minorities within the minority that is Quebec.
They are the bullied kid who has become a bully to protect themselves and anyone who calls them out on it must also be secretly against them. It reminds me a lot of (at a MUCH smaller scale and in a way less deadly way, mind you) how Israel can act so terribly to the Palestinians despite the history of their own people.
Hurt people hurt people, and that’s true for groups of people too.
@@darkstar2874 As a secular( but anti-religion as well), it hurts when i hear secular places like Turkey, and here, Quebec turning racist and not even allowing expression of religion in public. When religions are persecuted, their "faith" is the strongest (in most cases). Oppressing religious people just because you hate religion is so bigoted and dumb. Idk how you reduce religions, but this is definitely not it. I live in a muslim dominated society and it's not the best because religion, but it's definitely not like these people try to spread it as. If anything, I'm respected for my minority and you get treated "specially" in times of crises. Islam is problematic but all religions are. Forcing them will only make them more religious, not less.
TVA is pretty bad but not nearly as bad as FOX, at the very least
@@highdefinition450 Oh it's like a big brother and the younger brother. The younger brother isn't as bad of course, but all of Québécor's commentator are rambling on about woke culture and great replacement theory (With a québécois nationalist spin on it) just as Tucker Carlson, it's just that they started doing it on a more gradual manner.
I pressed "like" after 0,013333 sargons of this video.
He has his own unit of time now? Wow moving up in the world lol.
"The Sargon" as a unit of time is pretty much its own meme by now.
As is the moniker "Carl of Swindon"
As is " I wouldn't even ___ (fill in with whatever) you"
As is punching tables screaming "BERNIE!"
As is "Ban social Justice courses!", but only when addressed to "universities".
Ahhh, Carl, he gives us so much we fail to properly appreciate.
+thegrimner
don't forget the best one; *IT'S A FUCKING FEMINIST SYSTEM*
a base-feminist number system in which one sargon = the length of time it take to begin to realize that issues may be more complex than initially expected (and then shut off the video in order to preserve one's intellectual superiority)
Let's not forget the amazing use of words that his good friend jontron used to describe protesters, calling them ''commulists'' (no, not a typo).
Quebec-kwa is probably as close as you're going to get.
Kebekwa with the stress on 'ke'. Shaun gave what we call an 'alternative pronunciation'.
OsefKincaid
Thanks for enlightening me on the correct pronunciation. Up until now I'd been reading it in my head as "queue beck kwoyz"
**someone who hates Muslims killed some Muslims**
“That just seems so WEIRD wow”
well it doesn't really change anything, muslims kill each other all the time it is in their culture, they really have no respect for human life and they make up for a huge portion of human population on this planet btw, there's twenty-something countries full of people ready to kill you for nothing and they are probably invading your country right now
@@israelgroysman5040 ew wtf my family are Muslim
@@israelgroysman5040 looking at the other comments you’ve left in this channel, it seems like you’re either a child or insane. If you’re a child, maybe you’ll grow out of this
Thank you for finally addressing that "Allah Akbar" is literally just an Islamic phrase and not "the thing the baddies shout when they do bad stuff"
Yeah it literally just means “God is great.” People do the same thing with jihad too, which just means “collective struggle.”
They’ve been co-opted by the West into some scary Muslim callsign to start blowing stuff up, which just isn’t correct at all.
Oh, so many Sargons length! And yet I've watched it all. I want a prize.
Isn't not being Sargon enough of a prize? God, self-entitled millennials these days...
Um... This is actually 25 minutes long. So 5 Sargons, since we know Carl of Swindon only sees the first 5 minutes of a video and nothing more.
Define "sees" when saying he only "sees" the first 5 minutes?
I believe a more accurate term would be..."skims" he skims the first 5 minutes.
"Sargons length"
OH GOD WHY DID YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT AMD MAKE ME PICTURE IT IN MY HEAD! GET IT OUT! GET IT OUUUUUUUT!
What does Rebel Media rebel against, you ask? My guess is humanity and integrity.
They think that they are counter-revolutionaries, unironically, and that this somehow makes them "the actual rebellion", in a star-wars-ish sense.
@@Gabdube except the Rebels in Star Wars are actually fighting for a legit cause
@@jurtra9090 yeah. But literally everyone who watches Star Wars identifies with the rebels. Regardless of where they stand on the political spectrum, they project themselves onto the idea of "rebellion against tyranny", etc. In this case, Rebel Media is more clearly a libertarian/ancap interpretation of "rebellion", of course aimed at the alleged control of society by leftists and liberals who are almost always portrayed as authoritarian in Rebel Media's "journalism".
@@Gabdube thanks for answering a reply for your old comment. And yeah i can see what you are saying here abour Rebel
They probably rebel against journalistic integrity
This is probably one of the best political channels on youtube. Your videos are well-researched and you're not afraid to take on some of the most vile liars on this platform. The only shame is that this channel only has 24k subscribers as of August 2017.
Half a million now!
Almost at 600k! Shaun deserves it!
I'm curious as to what all of these lovely folks at rebel media did after it became clear that literally nothing about this story was fishy. Did they continue to report and discuss the story, or did they stop talking about it completely?
minch333 they set up a website asking their fans for more money so they find THE REAL TRUTH
(aka whatever version of events that line up with their conspiratorial Islamaphobic nonsense)
gdf40 For real? That's hilarious!
Hello, I'm from the future, and I found an article from April 2018 from Rebel Media, where, apparently, as Bisonnette pleaded guilty, he was now a depressed and under medication kid who happened to like Marine Le Pen and Donald Trump Facebook pages, but nothing consistent enough to call him "anti-muslim". And "the left" used the story anyway, so there are the bad guys, you don't need to think, we did the job for you www.therebel.media/ezra_levant_show_april_10_2018
@@az2man well that was a grammatical shit show so maybe im misinterpreting you, but are you saying the left didnt have enough evidence to call him anti-muslim? Despite him killing muslims
@@fergin4979 No, he's saying that's the story that Rebel Media was trying to push...his comment really isn't that hard to read (if overly reliant on commas)
I wish I was as calm as you, just watching this video again made my blood boil.
Nuke Jay
That’s his secret cap
He’s always angry
yeah me too as a muslim
What can even change these people? Truth can't. Being proven wrong can't. Is anything possible?
Agamidae No it isn’t possible to change their minds.
Some people just can't change because they don't *want* to change
I'm just starting to learn Arabic, in part because it's a simply beautiful language and in part because where I currently live is right in the middle of a pretty Muslim community and it just seems like a nice thing to do. Naturally, learning the language has come with learning (some of) the culture, and I was genuinely surprised when I learned how common it is for people to say allah akbar. I mean, it just means "god is great", and given that Muslims are pretty religious (almost like I'm _defining the group by their religion_ or something) that particular expression of faith comes up a lot. It's virtually every time something good happens, _or_ they want something good to happen. For example, a lady in front of me at the grocery store found her credit card after a few frantic minutes of searching, and muttered it. It's just the Muslim equivalent to "thank God". I... don't really know, in retrospect, why it surprised me so much.
Incidentally, as you can no doubt tell, I'm not Muslim. If I've misunderstood, please correct me.
Gold medal in mental gymnastics for that lot.
I want a shirt from S&J saying "Quebec-y"
Kebeky!
QUE BECKY
as a kebeky, I approve
ALLO LES AUTRES QUÉBÉCOIS!!!!!
(OMG JE FAIS TELLEMENT HABITANTE)
"Where's the evidence?" I don't know, news person. As a journalist, isn't it kind of your job to go out and investigate and find this kind of thing out? Maybe you could go onto Facebook and look at this person's page and see what things he posted? Why are you asking the police to do your job for you? You are supposed to be investigating and finding out facts to tell us, not simply regurgitating whatever other people say, accepting it blindly as the truth when it fits your world views and dismissing it when it doesn't. That's not how you news.
You're right to point out that Allah Akbar is used in a variety of situations, including dangerous ones just as a mantra or an expression of shock. The poor people in the mosque might even have shouted that after Bissonnette came in full rampage mode on
This is like a master class in confirmation bias.
Also self-replicating superlatives. "This is weird, and that makes this super-weird! Being super-weird obviously makes it mega-weird, and that obviously gives way to it being ULTRA-WEIRD!!11!!!1!!eleventy-one!"
They're just desperately trying to be right
Why do they think the police like muslims? I have a muslim friend who’s been detained by the police five times even though he’s never commited a crime
you don't know maybe he's being antisemitic online
Still haven't gotten my Soros cheq... oh wait, thats a dead joke. ;)
Jake Hall anyone who is simultaneously claiming to be a commulist and a supporter of the existing state of Israel needs to see what Israel really is. A colonial oppressor running one of the most racist societies in the world. See: Marxist Leninist groups in Palestine for the appropriate response to the existence of Israel as it is.
Well... when I tell this joke to the far right crowd... it shuts them up somehow... they deflect to another point.
So it’s not dead, sweet Soros money coming soon!
BadMouseProductions Don't be so sure about that! I took part in an anti-fascist march today and got accused of being a paid protester.
Yeah, dead. Same as Hillary voters ... or something.
mmmm fishy
"It's not my conspiracy theories" (subtext: it's my conspiracy theory)
I remember when I considered a 25 mins long video to be... long. Now I'm amazed at how short they seem.
This reminds me of a book called "When Prophecy Never Fails", about a UFO cult in the United States. In it, the author talks about how, in social settings, a prophecy being proven wrong by the facts (e.g: "UFOs will land on X date" and when that date comes, they don't) can make people double down on their beliefs; inside their sense-making, they justify the failure of what they were hoping for to materialize in a way that even that failure confirms that what *they* believe is correct.
@16:20
Men in suspenders and bright ties, with twirled mustaches and 50's-nerd haircuts have no business ever using the phrase "silly costumes" unless it's in response to being asked what they're wearing.
18:12
You might think that...if you don't know how conspiracy theorists think. The spiracy theorist mindset is thus: "I want this particular conclusion to be the truth, but the evidence suggests that it is not. Therefore, I'm going to twist and distort the evidence until it fits, even if I have to make stuff up to do it." Despite their claims of being in search of the truth, they don't care one whit what the truth actually is. All they care about is believing what they want to believe because they want to believe.
Hate to be that guy...
"Keh-beh-kwah"
It's pronounced "Keh-beh-Kwah"
KAY-beh-kwah, right?
@@ajkarmela3635 no, stress on the 'kwah'
I love how they all knew exactly who the shooter was, why it happened, what the suspects' names were before any information was released to the public. Then when it's confirmed to have been Bisonette, "You know, we shouldn't jump to conclusions. I have questions, Let's wait and see if any new information comes up."
I used to be a cringy atheist Islamophobe but since I got my degree in IR with a regional focus on the Middle East I literally can’t even imagine being one of those idiots anymore and I just get my jollies off by dunking on them.
The atheist community is quite a lot better now days but you still get the stupid edgy teens sometimes they just pop up less often
@@NEMOfishZ92 omg this is music to my ears y'all I never find kind atheists in TH-cam comments
in my experience the hyper-edgy atheist viewpoint was what got me out of my super conservative (former) muslim viewpoint
as a Canadian, hearing him pronounce québécois like that hurt my soul
F
Shaun and Jen X Hbomberguy video when???
That would be quite the clash in presentation styles I imagine.
Shaun could at least read some of the comments in one of Hbomb's measured responses.
From my knowledge the video about Sargon's petition featured Libertarian Socialist Rants, Dan Olson and Kristi Winters (Pretty sure that was her voice) among others.
PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!
the collab to end Sargons Career
How about that Garret guy?
Allah akbar? They heard Allah akbar? Of course they did, we don't only just say Allah akbar when we attack, we basically use it everytime we want, when we Walk, when run, when we pray, it's a prayer, and we don't have to use it when we are attacking but we do it anyways, nor do we have to use it when we do anything but we do anyways, because it's a prayer.
Imagine non-christians being scared when a white dude says "Oh my God!" or "Amen!".
Damn it.
I would just like to point out that I saw this show up in my YT list at the same time as I saw John Oliver's new bit about Putin. I had to choose which one to watch first.
I chose this.
It's funny to hear him say "Quebeckie" though
Free Republic is the Id of a group of people who have lost their superego, if they can be said to have ever had one...
Not sure what to make of season 3 of KTxShaun but I'll keep watching.
+Garrett
Dude, you killed it in the last season's finale!
Dear god! How long did it take to track all of this down? This is some damn fine video!
I watched this video for the first time a few weeks ago.
Then two days the NZ mosque shootings happened.
Never has content I viewed become so instantly relevant in the world.
You know it's quite telling that amidst the discussions in the forum, not ONE person has the decency to offer condolences to the families of the victims. Straight jumping to a political agenda.
Why would they? They obviously love Bissonnette and agree with what he did.
@@tarik6990 also the victims are Muslims so no chance there.
@@namithacd5650 They don't consider Muslims as human beings let alone potential victims of terrorism. To expect anything from them but hatred and fascism is like leaving an open suitcase full of money outside your door and expecting that no one will steal it.
Late to the party.
Quebecer myself. You pronounced the name of the shooter in a very good way, almost perfect.
I was so ashamed when this happened. Good job as always on the video
"It's just so weird, he's not brown, it's so weird!"
an insignificant loophole but still, first they say the ”shooters” were syrian refugees who arrived in Canada 1 week ago but when they attacked the mosque they had québécois accent after just one week in the country?
Also...after one week you're not a legal refugee yet
"This is not conspiracy theory"
Ah well it's settled then folks, it's clearly not a conspiracy theory! They even said it themselves!
I’m sorry but I lost it at how you said Québécois. I love hearing people try to say that
This is why it's quite literally impossible to argue effectively with some people, especially a group of anonymous people who can all individually change the goalposts each time their cornered. It's the same thing with flat earthers (although at least FE's don't try to defend a murderous son of a bitch), you can debunk each of their arguments and they'll just keep churning through their infinite supply of bad, poorly researched arguments. Eventually you're forced to give up in order to be productive and despite them losing every single debate in the process, they still feel like they came out on top
Allah Akbar is also the usual Muslim call to prayer, so it probably was said by the people who were praying
I wouldn't describe Allah Akbar as the call to prayer, because while it is part of the Adhan and Ikamah it is more commonly used to start the namaz, to start ruku, and to start salah.
Also commonly used as tesbhi.
Saying Allahu akbar in a mosque is like singing in a church lol
I honestly had thought that there was no one doing this sort of good work standing against
efuting the chaos an nonsense of populism. From my Canadian heart thank you.
Are the Quebec Police really going:
"We have to cover up the Muslim, imagine what Rebel Media will say."
Other Islam terror attacks aren't covered up, so why this one?
Dumb question, sorry to say lol. Based on their thinking if it were covered up you wouldn't hear about it. Duhh!!
@@Hayanomie yeah, but why would Quebec of all places cover it up and blame it on the Alt-Right when no one else does?
@@samuelbarber6177 oh they believe everybody does this everywhere
I'm just gonna take a guess that the shooter was either a bps, info wars or millennial woes subscriber. Or insert any other anti refugee youtuber. There is thousands of them take your pick.
He apprantly watches a lot of ben sharpener, not surprising.
can't imagine these people going to visit for example Turkey, hearing Allahu Akbar being yelled from a mosque at 4 AM, 'cause you know, it's literally the first phrase in the call to prayer of muslims that happens like 5 times a day. yes even at the break of dawn where you might be trying to sleep.
These cowards don’t leave their bubble.
My favorite thing about Shaun videos is I immediately know when I've been autoplayed an older video because I go from hearing you talk at what I consider slightly slow, and then a video like this starts and I immediately know it's old because of how incredibly slow it is
I always smile when you pronounce "Patreon" :D
Great video by the way! The more I listen to the kind of content you produce the more sure I am to not discuss anything until I have double-checked the facts myself. Thanks!
I love your nonchalant delivery. Always amuses me.
Fascist: Stephan Molyneux, Black Pigeon Speaks, Lauren Southern, Paul Joseph Watson
A went to the school right next to it, and there was a girl and her brother who’s father had been shot in that mosque shooting.
Sad thing
Gavin mcinnes is the gum on the bottom of Canada’s shoe
Oh wow! This came so much faster than your last video, what pleasant surprise! Good job :)
I don’t know why I find the “seen here doing something *incredibly* racist” line so hilarious.
I love the internet. I just recently subscribed to your channel and watched a couple of videos debunking Molyneux, loved it. Your work is very important in these days, keep it up. Humanity thanks you.
I know this video is super old, but as a Canadian I wanted to let everyone know this sentiment is still going extra extra strong in Canada
Doubly so in Quebec, Ontario and Alberta.
As a citizen of the province of Quebec, I apologize for the lack of our police's humour.
And I also thank you for this video.
I love how blatantly this video lays out the conservative tendency to immediately slide into conspiracy when something occurs that doesn't fit their limited worldview
You're my fav youtuber atm. Keep up your awesome work. Can we please talk about Sweden? I'm born and raised here and I'm so fucking angry about everything Trump said and also the party Swedish Democrats are basically spreading lies about the country.
Estelle A REPRESENT!
You are without a doubt, more credible than any journalist or news outlet I've seen in my lifetime.
“Québécois” is pronounced “Kebekwa”, btw
Can we normalise "friendless gun nut" instead of "lone gunman"
Not sure who, if anyone, is going to see this comment but I’d like to point out that right before this video started there was an ad for the NRA. Honestly it feels pretty disgusting.
"It's hard to spot the bad guys when they could be anyone." This will always be relevant.
I live in Québec and given the general atmosphere of bigotry in Québec around the syrian refugee crisis back then. I was not very surprised that a guy actually went and did this.
Thank you for being a voice of reason. I appreciate your videos very much and just signed up on Patreon to support you.
It’s crazy how people can just live in their own reality like this
From a bilingual Canadian... you did better with the french than a lot of anglophones would.
On a more serious note, because I keep coming back to this thought - how shortsighted do you have to be to take one name that sounds like it belongs to a white person, and one pretty likely to be a Muslim fellow, and conclude that the white dude must have been the witness and the Muslim guy the shooter? At a MOSQUE? You know, because so many non-Muslims go to pray at mosques.
But naturally simple analysis is absolutely lost on alt-right communities because it doesn't suit their narratives.
As a muslim this just gives me depression tbh. I never knew pepole like this existed and i hope we never cross paths
Same here. Stay safe bro
Keh-Beh-Qua. Quebecky did give me some mega hearty chuckles though!
"A lie can get around the world while the truth is still getting its shoes on." -Marvin the Martian, probably
Love this style of video btw, same with the stuff with the Church in Germany.
Definitely a solid format.
Allah Ahkbar isn't even a Muslim phrase, it's just Arabic. Arabic Christians will also say it cause it's great a phrase within their language. In the same way people who speak English, a lot of the time, regardless of their faith, say "Thank God", or something like that.
quebeckie??? sacré bleu...
Sad, isn't it that so many English people are just utterly hopeless when it comes to pronouncing French names.
They're almost half as bad as the Québécois are at pronouncing English names. I am Québécoise; I know how badly Francophones mess up English names and words. I am not going to say my actual name here, but I'll say that no franco can read it. It is a very WASP name.
@@MRayner59 Maybe it's because I Donna know.... French is a hard language to learn?.. I mean I'm Arabic and I don't get annoyed or insult English people when they pronounce Arabic names wrong I know its a hard language to learn
"Ke-beck-wah" is how I say it. I know this is old but I wanted to post it anyway.
@@lonathan5653 in English Canada, we are required to take some French through school. So, there's less of an excuse 😅 also, French and English share a lot of similar words, and names. And, I think there is some enjoyment in the annoyance between people who speak french or english in Canada.
I must say that I love the way you talk about my fellow brothers from across the sea, the Québécois. You trying to deal with ther name was great ( and kinda show how us french try to deal with the expressions they use.)