XCR-M - Possibly the Best Semi Auto .308: Gun of the Week #13
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Thanks for checking out my Gun 101 overview video on the Robinson Armament XCR-M in .308. This is the large frame version of the XCR rifle. It is multi caliber and with a quick change barrel, bolt and mag it can be run in .308, .243 win, .260 rem, and 6.5 creedmoor. Check out my First Person Shooting video of the XCR-M rifle and M96 Stoner 63 clone, as well as the other Gun 101 and Field Strip videos on the Robinson Armament rifles in my collection.
The XCR is personally my favourite modern semi auto rifle platform. Even though the FN Scar 17 won the SCAR program, I believe this rifle, especially in .308, is superior in its ergonomics and its quick barrel change system.
The Robinson Armament XCR family of rifles is non-restricted in Canada dependent on barrel length. Models with 18.5"+ barrels are non restricted, and rifles with barrels shorter than that are restricted. Both examples are shown in this video. The long guns are legal to own with a PAL, and the short barrel rifle requires a RPAL. I am properly licensed for these firearms.
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Man loves this rifle so much he got 3 of them. If that isn't a recommendation, I don't know what is.
I brought mine. and it's a beautiful rifle. I'm a big guy. I prefer 308 over 223 in terms of anything
Your video made my buy another XCR-M. I blame you. I didn't realize how beautiful they look with the DPMS pattern magazine!
2020 says "RIP Canadian gun rights"
Canada and gun rights that a oxymoron
I love how Trudeau made an entire speech about it, and basically told the people "Yeah I know the argument against this is correct, but I'm doing it anyway because politics I guess"
I’m 23 and this will be my first 7.62 rifle. You’ve won me over armgun man
My man's got the equivalent of my net worth in rifles on the table. Excellent content on your channel.
I was debating buying a SCAR 17s. I liked them given accuracy, reliability, and great looks.
What turned me off was the trigger, polymer lower, hard on optics, and most important cost. After a new trigger and you are approaching $4K with the SCAR. So I bought the Robinson xcr-m and a CZ Bren 2 for a little more than the price of the SCAR 17s by it self.
ChristianBolt Hell yeah dude
Woah woah the Bren 2 308 is out?
Unfortunately, SCARs are rather unrefined compared to their cost. The lower and stock are the weakpoints of it. Good news is that you'll probably never have to replace the barrel or any other internals
RADIOACTIVEBUNY
Yes, 7.62x39 pistol. 7.62X51 rifle is not produced in the US yet can’t import it given dumb laws. Will pick one up once they make it here.
ChristianBolt which is your favorite between this Robinson and the CZ BREN 2 BR? I'm looking at both.
After finally buying the POF Revolution, which I admire greatly, the XCR- M will be my next hill to climb.
I have two M249S and two transferable MP5s... and your collection is probably worth more. Amazing gear!
Wow man, that’s really impressive. Hoping to get commercial licensing up here so I can start making content with some of the more interesting pieces that we can’t otherwise own as civilians.
@@armandgun I just got my SOT here in Lake Tahoe. I am not familiar with your regs, but I am sure it will be worth it. I've bought a lot of stuff this year. =) imgur.com/a/1pKjps4
@@armandgun Can you tell me which gas block do you prefer: GB2 or GB3? GB2 mean 2 position block vs GB3 mean 3 position block? I'm new to this game so if you can explain the difference? Also, Fast 2 or Fast 3 stock option? Have the XCR-L version on order & ordering the M version today.
given that the scar doesn't have a ambi bolt catch... this looks like the better deal.
This has cut to front of the line as my first OD green and first 308 gun.
bud, I love your enthusiasm for guns and shooting. Gotta say that I'm a little disappointed to hear phrases like "approved for us" come out of someone's mouth.
Canada and US are more alike than any other two developed nations imo. Sure, Canadian cities have a more euro vibe, but the overall culture is more similar to the US than Germany or France (Montreal, QB isn't part of the equation. To be fair, I'm not including SFC bay area). I Minnesotans and Canadians have more in common than MN and TN, GA, FL, etc.
Anyways you have an awesome firearm collection even by American standards. Love what y'all have been doing 🍁🇺🇸 🇨🇦
XCR L beats SCAR L from my personal hands-on experience. If Arm and Gun collaborated with Garand Thumb, how would that work? Arm and Gun wears a go pro?
At first I thought it was ugly. This guy talked me into it.
Awesome post. I've had an XCR-L for over 10 years, w/quad 1913 rails. My other XCR-L has been SBR'd. I haven't jumped up to the -M yet. I have the Magpul ACR stocks on both of mine. I might upgrade to a FAST 3 one of these days.
Dredd, any problems with reliability?
@@beck4218 I have had to fix a single firing pin, and an op-rod. I had just SBRd the rifle. It was part of my oldest rifle. Even w/the broken fireing pin the rifle did try to ignite the primer. I keep spare parts. The reliability is good. Just like a decently made AR.
is barrel chrome lined?
Can you tell me which gas block do you prefer: GB2 or GB3? GB2 mean 2 position block vs GB3 mean 3 position block? I'm new to this game so if you can explain the difference? Also, Fast 2 or Fast 3 stock option?
Ha!!! You have an ACR buttstock on it! So do I. The sbr has the original FAST stock. Alex Robinson is a good friend. He gives me crap about my ACR stock. Lol. Excellent rifle. So much stuff to love about this platform. I own 8. Most are the smaller 5.56 and 7.62x39. By the way, that tiger striped one is one of my doings. (I'm the guy who does all of RAs camo jobs. )
You own 8 separate Robinson's ? Thats min 16K worth of Battle rifles, ouch!
@@steffeness1 Yeah... It is a lot of money but two were gifts from Alex Robinson. The rest were sold to me at cost so I'm not really into them as much as they're worth. Maybe 5 or 6k?
@@dolphinshooter2871 Can you Tell me, what gas block you recommend? GB2 or GB3 ? Stock Fast 2 or 3 ? Muzzle Break 2 or 3 or just a flash hider? Robinson's replies to emails are slow so I'm looking elsewhere for info. I have 2 on order right now.
@@steffeness1 Any flash hider works fine. Hardly any of mine have the same one. They all work fine. I personally like the latest version of gas blocks being produced. They are in fact the new and improved versions of past production. I have every version and the latest IS greatest. The very first gas block works but man, it's a pain to deal with! All the fast stocks are good. It's more preference to how you manipulate them. I generally set them and forget them so buttons on the bottom or sides don't equate much to me. Whatever you choose , you will get used to using and liking.
I have an ACR, was wondering what adapter is used for the ACR stock?
And now in Canada i bet this one is now on the ban list...
... unfortunately.
Literally bought one after watching this video but got the 5.56 one. Love this rifle. 10/10
What would you change as far as options go?
@@steffeness1 So honestly the only changes I really made were getting a thicker barrel and choosing the handguard which left the Gasport exposed if I were to rebuy I would honestly buy the 308 option just because I have so many 556 weapons already
@@starnesnj97 Have both coming in the thick barrels & long barrels. One in 6.5 grendel, other in 308.
Can't recall if I ordered gas block 2 or 3? Ordered both 1 yr ago in March. Stock options are another fuzzy detail i don't recall either. Think the Fast stock 3 is what a guy wants?
@@steffeness1 I’m not sure but I’m surprised it took so long I ordered mine around October 2021 And I got it a couple weeks ago
@@starnesnj97 Had a barrel change on 1 gun. Your take on gas block 2 vs 3? Fast stock 2 vs 3? I ordered both exposed gas adjustments / piston driven vs hidden gas block.
Which one do you prefer XCR-M in 308 or APC 308?
I love how the less effective version (shorter barrel) is illegal to shoot on your own land in Canada when the other isnt. must be brutal living in can. while loving guns... our ATF has its own garbage set of rules, that make no sense, for our firearms in America....
Its not about effectiveness here in Canada, its about how compact the gun/rifle is to conceal it! There is people with mental issues out there who would do unexpected crazy things, so better safe than sorry! however i agree none of the recent bans makes sense
@@Mark300win "Better be safe than sorry"? the most castrated shit Ive heard in a while. better ban owning cars or trucks, just to be safe, crazy people use them drunk or are crazy and purposely kill people with them. over 1k people die in CA from drunk driving each year. one life is to many, ban cars and might as well ban horse drawn buggies cause they can kill people. might as well make it illegal to have your hands, cause humans kill with their fists.
@@jeremygrbj4745 i agree but again liberals of the world want to be the big brother and control everything including our bodies, our kids and beyond
@@Mark300win Better safe than sorry is why I conceal carry, and why its important for the populace to be able to defend themselves.
I do not understand why their products have to be so very expensive. Probably has something to do with "economy of scale" where they are not "mass producing / mass manufacturing" because when making "things" on a larger scale, cost-per-unit decreases as a result due to a variety of factors versus small-scale-manufacturing....
As for their products, I hope 1 day I am able to afford to own one.
I think the xcr is the best gun in my fleet.
also these are astonishingly accurate with good ammo. Mine (18" heavy barrel 308) shoots 1/2 moa with Hornady ELDx (and a powerful scope!). Key: I think a rigorous initial barrel break in/copper fouling helps ... One shot, then wire brush (20 - 80 strokes)/patch clean until no powder shows on the patch, then take another shot, clean etc. ... For 1/2 moa accuracy, I have found (so far) best to quick-clean the barrel with a patch, to remove powder after about 8 shots, other wise tends closer to 1 moa, Darn! [chuckle, wink!] Also, super easy to clean. Hardly need to do this however, as runs so clean, vs. an AR action that gets sooted up after even one shot. God's Love for Robinson Arms!
These guys at Robinson dont respond to calls or emails. Tell me, with wolf ammo what does it shoot? How much money down do they want? Competition model is DI? & exposed piston vs hidden piston is just cosmetic? How bout the mini piston version? Would this be a SBR?
Can you tell me which gas block do you prefer: GB2 or GB3? GB2 mean 2 position block vs GB3 mean 3 position block? I'm new to this game so if you can explain the difference? Also, Fast 2 or Fast 3 stock option?
1/2 MOA accuracy with match grade ammo?
Once the Apc 308 changes to a non reciprocating changing handle. Which would you take over the other? And which is softer shooting? Btw I live in Texas so not many restrictions
I have an XCR in 556 and I'm in the U.S. One of the most accurate rifle's I have.
This is sharp 👌
The Monolithic upper is really slick
Don't let Castrols son see this video. AKA Justin
.308 is my absolute favorite heavy hiting round common to assault rifles, battle rifles, and sporting rifles (notice how I didnt say "Assault Weapon" which are a B.S. term). In a semiauto only configuration though they are awesome.
Made in the USA! 1.3 Pounds heavier than the FN but who cares? Ive got a XCR-M and a XCR-L on order and being built.
So why did you choose Keymod over M-Lok? I have an XCR-L with the Keymod. I like that it is really slim. When I bought it I had no idea that M-Lol was the dominant setup offering greater options for attachments.
I had no idea this rifle existed. I'm an American and that rifle is made just one state to the south of me. Thank you for the review. Maybe the reasons for the lack of popularity: 1. We Americans are enamored with cheap stuff and this rifle is abt $2k, 2. Lack of after-market support, and 3. Lack of ability to build your own. Just some thoughts.
Surprisingly it was in the SCAR trials although it was disqualified because they didn't send enough blank adapters
I’m American and We love Canada! 🍁
What is the exact setup of your 18"? Stock and adapter? Is thats the mini or standard? Which gas block? I love the way that looks!
The SBR version is sweet. Man that's cool. I definitely like it better than the SCAR
I think I’d take an ACR instead of a SCAR-17 💪🏻
I’d take an XCR over both of those lol
Why the hell would you want to be able to put it on safe with the hammer dropped? Then you can tell the hammer is dropped on an empty chamber without having to check the chamber. That's a plus not a negative like you think it is. If there's an actual reason you'd want that, explain it and try to change my mind.
Because when a loaded magazine is inserted, and for instance, stored in condition 1, if someone (a child for instance) figured out how to charge the gun and chamber a round, you could at LEAST have a secondary preventative measure of a activated safety engaged already to give a little more assurance of not having the gun fire negligently. If you train to disengage the safety before firing as all proficient shooters should, it’s no big deal to disengage it anyways so why would someone want to take the option to engage it no matter what condition the gun is in anyways!?
I realize that this post is pretty old but I'm hoping that you can tell me about that stock and adapter on the XCR M
scar, acr, and the fal had a baby
Gun culture is strong in Canada... Where a barrel less than 18.5" is considered restricted.
Apparently Mr. Kunuckistan from Quebec or whatever that asshole is from didn't get the memo?
XCR-M or Hk MR308A3?
1:15 Justin Trudeau: "...and I took that personally."
Great video. Are direct impingement rifles harder to obtain in Canada than Piston driven, or do you prefer the Piston Driven system? You seem to do a lot of videos on Piston Driven.
How well does it work with the AR10 Pmags?
Are the barrels cold hammer forged or chrome lined ? Have there been any issues with the gas block not being pinned ?
hello how does this compare to the bnt apc308? which do you like better? and also for shtf situation?
Does this rifle use the short stroke op. System that's a HUGE point of contention for me
This or the apc??
Does the charging handle reciprocate while it's being fired? That's why I dont like the FN SCAR 17S
It’s non-reciprocating.
What’s that stock and stock adapter on the long one?
Do you mind me asking where did you find the SBR? I’ve been trying to find one but no luck in Canada
That's because it's $2700, we can get a similar gun (lesser quality) for under $1000
$3550 price tag! Whoo shes pricey but damn thats a nice gun
I keep hearing that but if you look on the gun manufacturers site you can get a fully customized one for $2600.
@@user-qe8mv7co5w I’m sure the difference is the exchange rate between US and Canada
Great video! I am sold! What finish is that on the rifle? I am going to buy one next week because of this video!
Also is it a light or heavy barrel?
Armalite should sell the AR10 to colt so it produces it in select-fire modes.
They did in the 60s...Colt got the patents for AR10 & AR15...Colt lost the drawing somehow so the 901 was a ground up design
What adapter did you use for the ACR stock?
Lol facts you could shoot that little on your land, I doubt anyone could tell the difference between the sound of the two
I'm looking to get this is there an argument for the 5.56 or the .203?
I got mine yesterday just broke it in with 100 rounds of .223. Also the customer service I have was amazing I plan on buying a XCR-M next year. They have 4 in stock right now, but if they don’t have what your looking for it’s 5+ months for wait. Well worth it.
What type of sights are you using on them?
I'm using Aimpoints (ML 2s and 3s) and Primary arms lpvo scopes in 1 x 6... I have no preference as to superiority. They all have their place.
Friend it wasn't because of a blank fire adapter was because of the way the barrel was attached that made it inaccurate but they got that fixed with the gen 2
Have you had any issues with your Robarm guns losing screws?
Merica
Question is the stock part metal or all polymer?
The one i saw was slim and its a realy rugged feeling gun nice weight to it
Metal. Alex wanted a stock that could beat a door down if needed.
Do you like that Fortis grip on your .308?
What do you do a living to have all this money?!
jim Cocaine
An approved licensed range on your property? I don’t get it, you can fire any other weapon on your property. Yet, you can’t fire a short barreled one, one that you needed to get a license to get in the first place.
So not only do you need a license for it, but your property does too? 🙄 leave it to the government
6.5 grendel xcr micro when?
Would like to know from someone who can tell me the difference between the hidden piston, exposed piston & the mini piston driven & finally the competition series of Robinson? Besides the cosmetics obviously.
Nice system pack and brutal colour!, sweetness very informative and good presentation and review! SCAR doubtful not reliable system , thnks again keep it up!
Cheers
What adapter is that for the stock?
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the mdrx in 308
wow, this is sad to see only because in just 3 years most of the Canadian gun rights have been taken away from yall. A true shame, but still a great rifle nonetheless.
In my humble opinion, ambi is very over rated. Of course I prefer it but it’s very unnecessary, I’m a right handed firer, only use from that position, having the ability to actuate as a lefty is something I’ll most likely probably never need just like 99% of us. My weapons are for me, not for anyone else’s preference
Didn't know you're Canadian. Weird.
Looks great, but I see kinda a mix of a b&t plus HK plus FN .
Without copying any other gun, the XCR M uses similar design aspects of the AR-10, FN FAL, Springfield M1A, and the AK ... it's all proprietary stuff with outside flare.
Too bad we can’t own them any more .....😢😢😢😢😢
Awesome video. What kind of stock is that on the XCR-M?
ACR stock
Spitballing, to all my 308 fans... whats recoil/ and blowback like 308. VS 300 BLK?
gosh how can you say the Robinson 308 is the best - YOUR SIG 542 friends don't approve!
Baby central hahaha sorry guys. The 542 is great, but modern ergs, and sr25 mag compatibility tip the scales for me anyways. But hey I still own and love the 542 👍🏻
These are available in Canada?
Also, whered you get the ACR stock adapter?
212driller CGN
Did you turn it in?
Your in Canada ???
Do they make a folding charging handle for these? IMO this should have been selected over the scar. The scar is overpriced. It's got video game appeal but that's about it.
No. The charging handle is designed to double as a forward assist. A folding handle would eliminate that function.
What does this bring to the table vs a DS arms sa58?
Is it accepting of fal mods? whats the moa grouping from off the shelf and hand loads?
is "stupid accurate" less than 1moa or less? at 100 yard or 91 meters?
Hello, i'm considering buying one for hunting in Canada. Are those legal to hunt (considering 18,6 barrel or above, in .308 caliber)? Thanks for your time.
Astro 514 you bet! Just get the nr length version and hunt away. Talk to Tyson at Wolverine supplies if you have specific questions.
@@armandgun Thanks for the quick reply! Let's hope they don't change the classification to restricted or prohibited. I think the risk is real considering the political situation right now...
Trudeau is only leveraging firearms for votes. I don’t think they will succeed at forming government. All the same it’s important to vote and encourage others to do the same. Also take anyone you can out shooting who’s new to firearms.
What do u think of the L model? And do you have any experience with their caliber swap kits?
I have 7 Ls... All configured different in 3 calibers. They are all gtg. The swap kits consist of barrel and bolt. They all run just fine.
@@dolphinshooter2871 Don’t know if you’ll see this since it’s been 3 months since you posted. Really interested in this rifle. Curious about reliability. Thanks.
@@ravenguard7484 Hey! I'm a true believer in this rifle. I have several. One of my SBR uppers has gone over 8000 rds without cleaning just to see if it would gum up and quit. The test was getting sort of long and expensive so I quit oiling it to sabotage the test a bit. Went almost another 800 rounds before it started hanging up. When it became 3 or 4 rds in a magazine, I oiled it and went another 340 rounds without incident. I gave up at that point trying to kill this thing. Lol... Cleaning it after all those rounds and 7 months of getting into everything took two hours to get out! So worth knowing if it's a good gun or not though... It is. I know Alex is at the shot show now. He's just doing business with suppliers and vendors though. No booth this year. These rifles are GTG! Have fun!
@@dolphinshooter2871 Wow. Now that’s a reliability test. I definitely shouldn’t have any concerns.
Looking at the 12 and 16 right now. However, I thought the 14.7 might be a good compromise. Not sure if you would know, but are they pinned and welded?
I’m left handed so an ambi charging handle would have made this an easier decision. But, believe someone pointed out you only have to charge it once and A LOT of right handers shoot AKs and have no problems.
@@ravenguard7484 I'm not sure if the the short barrels are pinned or welded. All my shorty's are just threaded. The receiver is registered as a short barreled rifle so I can do pretty much what I want with them. I will call Holly and ask her today what they do there. I kinda want to know myself now!
Look like fn fal 👍
also a Canadian xcr owner, where did you get the acr stock?
Having to keep those XCR's hidden now cause of the Kunuckstan master
@@steffeness1 Heard about the boating accident.
@@BaddFrogg777 Boating Accident? You lost me
stg 44
Own both and the scar is an over priced over rated ugg boot looking POS, worst money I ever spent.
Are these things non restricted in canada
Not anymore unfortunately. They were prior to the recent ban. If overturned they would be again.
@@armandgun is there any possibility for an overturn??
Just get the socom 16 it's a 308
Is this now illegal in Canada?
Damn skippy it is
How much?
I enjoy your content. You have an amazing collection. You have “SCAR ENVY”. I hope that SCAR’s get approved for you guys, so you can get your hands on one. Until then keep telling yourself that the Robinson rifles are better. Peace.
mackmit76 hahaha I hear you bro. Trust me I would also have a scar if I could. I do hope they get approved up here.
Scars are not better
Agreed
The scar mk17 is nice no doubt but because of the short length short stroke gas system and the massive bcg the recoil impulse is heavy mostly because it was never designed for a 16in barrel, that would be comparable to a AR-10 with a 18" barrel carbine length gas system. Unlike the scar the XCR-M's come with an appropriate length gas system depending on cartridge type, gas pressure and barrel length not to mention they have caliber conversion kits for the 243, 260 and 6.5 Creed. For me and most of my sport shooting group this rifle system is one of the most modular high quality smooth shooting BR's out there and yes it is totally worth the money and there's a few aftermarket manufacturer's if you feel the need. God bless and Happy shooting.
I have an Xcr M on order can't wait till it gets here so i can compare it to my other 7.62 rifles. I have a Scar 17,Ar10 and 3 M1A'S and a Centme , so far the Scar is awesome. only downside is it likes to damage brass.
How accurate is the 9 inch barrel?
Miller Cynthia Perez Cynthia Brown Robert
is barrel chrome lined?
You do not mention accuracy and reliabilitty . Those are major point and cost.....range test is the only way out .too much useless talk...
That's a nice piece of hardware you got there buddy. Excellent for blasting coppers. 👉💥👮♂️
lol keymod