th-cam.com/video/yptPDsuQPa8/w-d-xo.html First ever Virtual Idol Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary? Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku..... Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
The problem with polar is that she's advertised as "the first virtual singer who wants to perform on a real stage", while its completely okay to EXPAND the concept, taking credit for it like it's yours isn't and even if polar actually was the "first" to have a goal to perform IRL, there are already so much people who beat her to that game throughout her debut (around 2021), with vtubers, celebrity holograms, project sekai, enstars, the vocaloids (slightly featuring aqours with this one since they had miku perform with them IRL), and even splatoon and animal crossing, and all we got from polar was a few avakin life concerts and a roblox concert (which all of them were unsuccessful and all of them don't count as real concerts since they happened virtually). Another problem is the fact that the company's very arrogant. Flashback to 2023 when there are so much confrontations, they always ignored them and what made it worse was that fact that they not only shamelessly used her to promote her Ievan polka remix (which is technically illegal since crypton states that you could use her voice for commercials but can't use miku's character herself, unless given full permission) but also made a miku diss song which in a nutshell, basically was like the toxic gossip train of virtual singers. So in summary and in my perspective, polar has done enough damages for me to hate her. From advertising her as something she's not, not only completely ignoring the people who paved the way for virtual singers performing IRL but even dissed the queen herself and most of all, genuinely being one of the most unlikable and forgettable characters in existence with very boring content (expected from her company tbh, AKA TheSoulPublishing/ creators of 5-Minute crafts). Also her music, despite being promoted with so much hype is very basic, not to mention she had a whole song that not only changes genres 3 times in one song but the whole song was made with a lot of samples (notably 7 rings and sweet but psycho).
@@nguyenhuutrung3413 Oh she 100% is, her voice is heavily autotuned though and a lot of people want her to leave and do her own thing as she has potential. Some of the people the channel has worked for also have potential. For example: M.I.M.E in the ocean mv
th-cam.com/video/yptPDsuQPa8/w-d-xo.html First ever Virtual Idol Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary? Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku..... Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
@@RikuKaiJin Please read the comments you are replying to before copypasting. Op mentioned ways as to why Polar is in copying Miku. Polar claimed to be the first while wearing Miku's hairstyle. She has also had several shorts where she dresses up as Miku. Most famous is the Ivan Polka promotion video where she dressed exactly like Miku to promote it. Then we have the song that released in the same month, rip off. The song where Polar very much admits to copying. Polar is also known for copying KDA and using illegal samples. As for Zhizi, things to note is when she released and how she was portrayed. Zhizi came out very close to the time of the Chinease Miku vb and was only used once. It's very likely CFM or Yamaha was not impressed. Miku fans portrayed the character as a recolour of Miku but red. The main issue she got called a rip off is due to her design and release period. Fans of the character redesigned her so that she's less like Miku.
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@@Faninsfm IDOL we all know and love; Hatsune Miku the IDOL before her from Horipro is Kyoko Date from 1996-8 Which Kyoko created fever dreams and wasnt known
@@RikuKaiJin You are right but Polar has ripped off Miku in mutiple ways, along with other people or groups like KDA from LOL. This comment was not saying that Miku was first virtual idol. Miku was the first virtual idol to have a concert though. Kyoko is more like a vtuber as she never performed at a concert. Her virtual daughter made by company is a vtuber.
th-cam.com/video/yptPDsuQPa8/w-d-xo.html First ever Virtual Idol Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary? Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku..... Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
th-cam.com/video/yptPDsuQPa8/w-d-xo.html First ever Virtual Idol Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary? Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku..... Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
NOTING THINGS MAKING POLAR A COPYCAT: I found on when I viewed the screenshot that she did a cover on Ievan Polkka, right around 4:49. Ievan Polkka has already been covered by Hatsune Miku, and Miku's version soon became popular. Polar's version:th-cam.com/video/tpcr2DQFFLg/w-d-xo.html Well, turns out that flopped. People actually got encouraged to listen to Miku's version (the producer who made it was Otomania). Miku's version:th-cam.com/video/i2giZNNZXH8/w-d-xo.html I guess the people who made Avakin Life tried to make a virtual idol to replace Miku, and they're trying to figure out what makes her so popular. Also, Polar apparently copies Miku's dance in one video. I can't find the link to that video, so you'll just have to believe me. Also note Ievan Polkka was a traditional Finnish song, not a Miku song, just that the Miku song is more popular. NOTE AGAIN that Polar's one is hardcore dj like(?) and miku's is more traditional yet modern.
The whole rip off promo and the Ievan Polka one too had Polar mocking Miku. The most famous one is a tiktok video where Polar is in Miku's attire. There was also the time where they used the Wowaka heart. Polar mostly copies KDA though, this is very clear in the very first songs they made with her
@@YakuTa-dn3gr It's ok. Rip off flopped really bad so most people only know about Ievan Polka. Both promos where near each other as both song released in the same month.
th-cam.com/video/yptPDsuQPa8/w-d-xo.html First ever Virtual Idol Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary? Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku..... Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
th-cam.com/video/yptPDsuQPa8/w-d-xo.html First ever Virtual Idol Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary? Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku..... Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
th-cam.com/video/yptPDsuQPa8/w-d-xo.html First ever Virtual Idol Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary? Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku..... Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
@@RikuKaiJin i was only really joking lol but i suppose that the reason that polar is hated above all the others is because she’s made by 5-minute crafts lol
She more looks like a ai generated, too realistic character with billions of shaders which even a RTX 4090 cannot handle. Id rather stick to Teto than her
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Putting this here. The Smokeebee video was a joke. The mask is actually taken from KDA and is a low effort version of it. It used to be more than this but over time Polar changed her design. Older songs show this. One of Polar's current hairstyles is still very simular to Seraphine from LOL Thinking about you is the biggest example of Polar copying KDA. The mask is from Akali, not Smokeebee! Polar coppies a lot of things but Smokeebee is not one of them. She copys Miku (a lot less than the others but it's there. Biggest example is the Ievan Polka promotion), Arianna Grande (Separate ways), KDA (hair style and music videos mainly) Ava Max (Biggest example is Seperate ways but there is a lot more) and Billie Elish (Has not be recent but it happened for a bit. Gen Z). She also uses AI art a lot and has promoted it in the past.
FR!!!! I have an OC with lonnnnng blue pigtail hair People said she looks like Sally face (that happen to me one time) or Miku BRO!!! I just love pigtail hairstyle + the magic of my oc is blue, so her hair should be blue PLUUUS, SHE IS A F*CKING SKELETON, she is not even an human When i see that vidéo i said "where we go again, i hate how that fictional character become so popular"
polar will NEVER have a community with talented producers like wowaka, DECO*27, ryo (supercell) and many more which is why the decision to rip off hatsune miku will clearly fail. polar's creation just feels like a financial decision made by the higher ups at the soul publishing and the worst part is that they ripped off miku without having an actual understanding of why she was even created
Please chill with the sound effects. This is pretty much unwatchable. Also Polar copied KDA (The LOL group) more than Miku. She has also very much stolen from Ariana Grande as well
@@MiniEmber the reason Zhizi was called miku bootleg was because she had a similar hairstyle so i only added Anarchy since shes like a badass anarchist Miku version... oh an btw Neru is a fanloid derived from either Miku and Rin
@@RikuKaiJin Dongfang zhizi's original design was just really poor cg so fans remade her by just colouring Miku red. She is shown in the vide0 Vocaloid? This Hatsune Miku? Is fake. The popular design for her is fan made. As for Neru, the reason behind her creation was miku disappearing from the internet. She was made with the sole purpose to mock Miku haters by being miku but the opposite. Neru was designed to have the same outfit as Miku. Over the years Neru's purpose moved away from mocking Miku haters and TBS. All fanloids are copying the original. One fanloid that never removed away from this is Kagami Kawaiine, the best fanloid on the planet and better than Miku
@@MiniEmber th-cam.com/video/yptPDsuQPa8/w-d-xo.html First ever Virtual Idol Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary? Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku..... Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
This is a very unpopular opinion, but I honestly don't find Polar a Hatsune Miku rip-off. Why is she a fake? Just because she has long, tied turquoise hair and is a virtual singer? That's honestly a weak argument - at least in my opinion it is. Anyone can have long, tied turquoise hair while being known as a virtual singer. This isn't only Miku's thing. This could be anyone's; even yours! HOWEVER, I AM NOT HATING ON MIKU IN ANY WAY!! IN FACT, I LOVE MIKU!! But I just find it dumb that people consider Polar a Hatsune Miku clone. I would actually like to hear your opinions on my argument, that would disprove my point and change my mind :) err anyway thanks for reading.
Polar claimed to be the first while wearing Miku's hairstyle. She has also had several shorts where she dresses up as Miku. Most famous is the Ievan Polka promotion video where she dressed exactly like Miku to promote it. Then we have the song that released in the same month, rip off. The song where Polar very much admits to copying. Polar is also known for copying KDA and using illegal samples.
A lot of reasons. I'll just name a few of them. - promoting ai art multiple times - Having shorts that contain f3tish or other adult content - XO Team shorts - Being apart of soul publishing - Stealing from multiple songs - Copying KDA and Miku - The entire rip off and Ivan Polka promotion - Glorifying harmful topics with the male character - Polar reacts channel
Polar is trash tier AI generated bottom of the barrel quality, that is made by corporates who thought they could take a cut of the Miku market. Not realizing that by coping her they destroyed ANY goodwill miku fans had. if they made Polar her own thing, and not a outright Miku copycat, then they might have a market but they took a shot at the miku market and lost
Kinda. Polar's sort of being cancelled for now having more subs/ fans than miku (and by fans, i mean bots) But thankfully her activities have been real slow, so it might be that she's finally getting irrelevant.
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Ah yes, Walmart brand Hatsune Miku, I remember her well
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She’s literally 5 minutes crafts Miku, she’s made by the same company
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Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary?
Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku.....
Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
@@RikuKaiJin war crime
I thought "Copycat" was performed by GUMI, not Miku/Walmart Miku
It is
@@ilike.ena-i think it's a joke they're calling her a copycat
@@Skittles_BingBong_Yayy oh
Miku: Heh GUMI, can I sing your song rq?
GUMI: uh sure? Why though?
Miku: COPY THAT COPYCAT *high notes intensifies*
LMAO
The problem with polar is that she's advertised as "the first virtual singer who wants to perform on a real stage", while its completely okay to EXPAND the concept, taking credit for it like it's yours isn't and even if polar actually was the "first" to have a goal to perform IRL, there are already so much people who beat her to that game throughout her debut (around 2021), with vtubers, celebrity holograms, project sekai, enstars, the vocaloids (slightly featuring aqours with this one since they had miku perform with them IRL), and even splatoon and animal crossing, and all we got from polar was a few avakin life concerts and a roblox concert (which all of them were unsuccessful and all of them don't count as real concerts since they happened virtually). Another problem is the fact that the company's very arrogant. Flashback to 2023 when there are so much confrontations, they always ignored them and what made it worse was that fact that they not only shamelessly used her to promote her Ievan polka remix (which is technically illegal since crypton states that you could use her voice for commercials but can't use miku's character herself, unless given full permission) but also made a miku diss song which in a nutshell, basically was like the toxic gossip train of virtual singers.
So in summary and in my perspective, polar has done enough damages for me to hate her. From advertising her as something she's not, not only completely ignoring the people who paved the way for virtual singers performing IRL but even dissed the queen herself and most of all, genuinely being one of the most unlikable and forgettable characters in existence with very boring content (expected from her company tbh, AKA TheSoulPublishing/ creators of 5-Minute crafts). Also her music, despite being promoted with so much hype is very basic, not to mention she had a whole song that not only changes genres 3 times in one song but the whole song was made with a lot of samples (notably 7 rings and sweet but psycho).
Can't forget the times Polar promoted AI art.
A shame, from what I'vd heard, her voice actor is actually decent, I hope she get away from Polar as soon as possible.
@@nguyenhuutrung3413 Oh she 100% is, her voice is heavily autotuned though and a lot of people want her to leave and do her own thing as she has potential. Some of the people the channel has worked for also have potential. For example: M.I.M.E in the ocean mv
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Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary?
Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku.....
Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
@@RikuKaiJin Please read the comments you are replying to before copypasting. Op mentioned ways as to why Polar is in copying Miku.
Polar claimed to be the first while wearing Miku's hairstyle. She has also had several shorts where she dresses up as Miku. Most famous is the Ivan Polka promotion video where she dressed exactly like Miku to promote it. Then we have the song that released in the same month, rip off. The song where Polar very much admits to copying. Polar is also known for copying KDA and using illegal samples.
As for Zhizi, things to note is when she released and how she was portrayed. Zhizi came out very close to the time of the Chinease Miku vb and was only used once. It's very likely CFM or Yamaha was not impressed. Miku fans portrayed the character as a recolour of Miku but red. The main issue she got called a rip off is due to her design and release period. Fans of the character redesigned her so that she's less like Miku.
The fact smokiebee reacts and polar look alike like her and hatsune miku 😭
Yes polar really copied smokiebee and hatsune miku
the trilogy
I was thinking that
Polar looks more like a KDA member
@@MiniEmber LMAO
Would y’all be surprised that she tried to do a cover of Ievan Polkka (originally a polish song miku covered) while wearing an outfit of miku-
She did and comments were hilarious 😂
Oh dear child, Ievan Polkka is Finnish
your user is so relatable #primosbeforeamigos
Oh yes, the wish version of Hatsune Miku
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Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html
Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary?
Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku.....
Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
@@RikuKaiJin the hell are you talking about
@@Faninsfm
IDOL we all know and love; Hatsune Miku
the IDOL before her from Horipro is Kyoko Date from 1996-8
Which Kyoko created fever dreams and wasnt known
@@RikuKaiJin You are right but Polar has ripped off Miku in mutiple ways, along with other people or groups like KDA from LOL.
This comment was not saying that Miku was first virtual idol. Miku was the first virtual idol to have a concert though. Kyoko is more like a vtuber as she never performed at a concert. Her virtual daughter made by company is a vtuber.
Yes the ugly copy cat of discount miku at basement forgotten in old box
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Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html
Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary?
Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku.....
Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
2:02 kimono girl flexing his jawline
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Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html
Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html
Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html
Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary?
Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku.....
Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
"Walmart miku" AHH💀
That's not from Walmart that's from Ohio 💀
@@Faris_KEYBOSstop using that,this meme is dead
Oh more like Miku from Temu
@@KizukimiArtz miku from shein
Is the “TikTok Star” in room with us?? 💀
She ain't a star 😔
@coolfloyd1919 ur right she’s a TikTok hexagon 💀
@coolfloyd1919 ur right she’s a TikTok hexagon 💀
@coolfloyd1919 ur right she’s a TikTok hexagon 💀
@coolfloyd1919 ur right she’s a TikTok hexagon 💀
she also looks like smokiebee
HELP DONT PUT SMOKEBEE DOWN LIKE THAT
@@Mituosong smokebee sead that the random thing/wish brand miku looks like her the mask and the hair
@@star-q6t She said it as a Joke. The mask is copied from KDA
@@MiniEmber oh ok thank you for telling me
Ppl Either Spell Smokeebee's Name as Smokiebee Or Smokebee
Smokiebee Is Fine Yes Understandable
*_But Smokebee Is A Gay Robot ship_*
Mikus voice is based on some1's real voice they just made it more high-pitch and robotic
So? ._.
I just wanted to say the fact
So I did
> Cute virtual singer with great voice
> Weird edgy 3d model
Corporate can't find any similarities
She reminded me of Hatsune miku and smokee bee
Yes i remember this
Ok, we got Walmart in internet!?
Avakin life is literally a walmart version of VR chat bruhh 😭😭😭
NOTING THINGS MAKING POLAR A COPYCAT:
I found on when I viewed the screenshot that she did a cover on Ievan Polkka, right around 4:49. Ievan Polkka has already been covered by Hatsune Miku, and Miku's version soon became popular.
Polar's version:th-cam.com/video/tpcr2DQFFLg/w-d-xo.html
Well, turns out that flopped. People actually got encouraged to listen to Miku's version (the producer who made it was Otomania).
Miku's version:th-cam.com/video/i2giZNNZXH8/w-d-xo.html
I guess the people who made Avakin Life tried to make a virtual idol to replace Miku, and they're trying to figure out what makes her so popular. Also, Polar apparently copies Miku's dance in one video. I can't find the link to that video, so you'll just have to believe me.
Also note Ievan Polkka was a traditional Finnish song, not a Miku song, just that the Miku song is more popular. NOTE AGAIN that Polar's one is hardcore dj like(?) and miku's is more traditional yet modern.
The whole rip off promo and the Ievan Polka one too had Polar mocking Miku. The most famous one is a tiktok video where Polar is in Miku's attire. There was also the time where they used the Wowaka heart.
Polar mostly copies KDA though, this is very clear in the very first songs they made with her
@@MiniEmber Oh I didn't know.
Oops. Good point though.
@@YakuTa-dn3gr It's ok. Rip off flopped really bad so most people only know about Ievan Polka. Both promos where near each other as both song released in the same month.
th-cam.com/video/yptPDsuQPa8/w-d-xo.html First ever Virtual Idol
Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html
Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html
Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html
Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary?
Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku.....
Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
second chapter is named "african life"
"soul publishing"
"introducing poki"
idk about you guys, but polar just looks like a scrapped mortal kombat character
Polar is created by TheSoul Publishing, the same corporation that created:
5 Minute Crafts
Bright Side
etc
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Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html
Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html
Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html
Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary?
Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku.....
Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
Hatsune Miku from Temu 💀
Can you do "Introducing/how Yorushika formed" video? It just not that much recognition and story of them compared to their rival (kinda) Yoasobi.
You’re a bit late to the party, we’ve already been crusading against Polar for a while.
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Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html
Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html
Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html
Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary?
Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku.....
Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
@@RikuKaiJin i was only really joking lol
but i suppose that the reason that polar is hated above all the others is because she’s made by 5-minute crafts lol
She more looks like a ai generated, too realistic character with billions of shaders which even a RTX 4090 cannot handle. Id rather stick to Teto than her
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Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html
Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html
Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html
Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary?
Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku.....
Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
teto for life
@@PastelShine im more of a kagamine enjoyer but ok!
Never going to a temu sponsered miku concert again
why i just wanted to kms when i whatched a video Polar made? (Hatsune Miku copycat)?
I wouldnt actually say that Zhizi is a Miku Ripoff but Polar definitely is
6:21 YES FINALLY A GOOD FANDOM GET NOTICED
Smokeebee also thought it was a copy of her cuz it was alike to her oc
The “OC” is actually how she looks
They were joking
@@sonicfanboy3375 didn’t sound like one
4:47 she literally had a video named levan polkka - song from miku
The Miku version is a cover
its also ievan polkka, not levan polkka
@@MiniEmberwtffff polar copied miku its not the opposite
@@ToneRion2010 Never said she didn't but the Miku version is a cover and not the original
0:43 help why is his voice so in sync with mr. beast?? 💀
I call it the Pipi Langstrumpf hairstyle
Polar is a mix of smokeebee and miku (and i dont mean the transformers ship. I mean the youtuber smokeebee btw)
The fact that this tiktok star looks like Hatsune Miku AND Smokie Bee😭
6:06-6:07 off topic but the way miku's little yell got cut off😂
“sacrifice all I know-“ that’s what polar did.
Noooooooo I don’t want a rip of miku. Ps R.I.P miku 😢
Putting this here. The Smokeebee video was a joke. The mask is actually taken from KDA and is a low effort version of it. It used to be more than this but over time Polar changed her design.
Older songs show this. One of Polar's current hairstyles is still very simular to Seraphine from LOL
Thinking about you is the biggest example of Polar copying KDA. The mask is from Akali, not Smokeebee!
Polar coppies a lot of things but Smokeebee is not one of them. She copys Miku (a lot less than the others but it's there. Biggest example is the Ievan Polka promotion), Arianna Grande (Separate ways), KDA (hair style and music videos mainly) Ava Max (Biggest example is Seperate ways but there is a lot more) and Billie Elish (Has not be recent but it happened for a bit. Gen Z). She also uses AI art a lot and has promoted it in the past.
polar herself said that she doesnt wanna be like miku, yall just cant see a virtual singer with blue hair without whining
Then why does the Ievan Polka promotion have her mocking and copying Miku? Why was rip off made?
Polar is a air controlled by a company 💀
so real
0:18 what anime is this? 😂
Bocchi the rock
Bocchi the rock
the green hair polar is a copy of tanger's oc, inu-tan
Ah yes yes, the five below brand hatsune miku who remembers her?
Polar is basically dollar tree Miku
just because someone has blue hair doesn’t mean they copied miku..
There are a lot of reasons why she's a ripoff. Biggest thing is the entire Ievan Polka promotion
FR!!!!
I have an OC with lonnnnng blue pigtail hair
People said she looks like Sally face (that happen to me one time) or Miku
BRO!!! I just love pigtail hairstyle + the magic of my oc is blue, so her hair should be blue
PLUUUS, SHE IS A F*CKING SKELETON, she is not even an human
When i see that vidéo i said "where we go again, i hate how that fictional character become so popular"
@@ly_berry There is a reason why Polar is compared to Miku. It's not just the design
99% of the comments it's only about her design
like cheez
The dude who create miku it's not the only one who can get that type of ideas
@@ly_berry One of the top comments doesn't even mention the design
polar will NEVER have a community with talented producers like wowaka, DECO*27, ryo (supercell) and many more which is why the decision to rip off hatsune miku will clearly fail. polar's creation just feels like a financial decision made by the higher ups at the soul publishing and the worst part is that they ripped off miku without having an actual understanding of why she was even created
Please chill with the sound effects. This is pretty much unwatchable. Also Polar copied KDA (The LOL group) more than Miku. She has also very much stolen from Ariana Grande as well
I agree with you on the first one 😭😭
I didn’t really notice until you said it, but omg the sound effects 😭
Its not that bad, or I'm just so used of overly edited memes with random sfx and fart noises
@@bonkregulator5237 I've watched some too but this video is very overkill
Alright COpycat timeline;
Hatsune miku-OG 2007
DOngfang zhizi 2013 china bootleg
Polar 2021 copy
Anarchy-Chan 2023-4 Japan Red Variant of miku
Anarchy-Chan is nothing like Miku. A better example would be Neru as that was what she originally was
@@MiniEmber the reason Zhizi was called miku bootleg was because she had a similar hairstyle
so i only added Anarchy since shes like a badass anarchist Miku version...
oh an btw
Neru is a fanloid derived from either Miku and Rin
@@RikuKaiJin Dongfang zhizi's original design was just really poor cg so fans remade her by just colouring Miku red. She is shown in the vide0 Vocaloid? This Hatsune Miku? Is fake. The popular design for her is fan made.
As for Neru, the reason behind her creation was miku disappearing from the internet. She was made with the sole purpose to mock Miku haters by being miku but the opposite. Neru was designed to have the same outfit as Miku. Over the years Neru's purpose moved away from mocking Miku haters and TBS. All fanloids are copying the original.
One fanloid that never removed away from this is Kagami Kawaiine, the best fanloid on the planet and better than Miku
@@MiniEmber th-cam.com/video/yptPDsuQPa8/w-d-xo.html First ever Virtual Idol
Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html
Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html
Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html
Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary?
Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku.....
Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
@@RikuKaiJin Read my comment
You know smokeebee, polar copyed her too. :(
History of CreepyNuts when?
I saw her first thru smokeebee so I guess she got to copy two in one
Hatsune Miku should sue this tik tok star!
Ah yes, the Temu version of Hatsune Miku
smokiebee? is that you?
ngl, she looks like Smokee and Miku combined
she even copied smokee💀
With the mask.
@@milandimitrijevic2789 she did one that had green hair and a mask
I don’t think she actually copies miku although she is really weird I dont see any resemblance except her pigtails which is only a hairstyle
I hate anybody who thinks she copied miku , please do not reply to this comment it is a statcu
Close To Me > Close To You
BRO DID MIKU DIRTY 6:07 - 6:08
Avakin Life was shitty. There I said it.
Thumbnail art credit? Who did it
I forgot about polar
Dollar general miku
Brought to you by 5 Minute Crafts (yes, seriously, made by the same company)
Fr it’s real I am big polar hater
6:06 bahahsh
I thought it was smokeebee
didnt smokeebee accuse her too
She Also looks like smokeebee
0:13 alpha
This is a very unpopular opinion, but I honestly don't find Polar a Hatsune Miku rip-off. Why is she a fake? Just because she has long, tied turquoise hair and is a virtual singer? That's honestly a weak argument - at least in my opinion it is. Anyone can have long, tied turquoise hair while being known as a virtual singer. This isn't only Miku's thing. This could be anyone's; even yours! HOWEVER, I AM NOT HATING ON MIKU IN ANY WAY!! IN FACT, I LOVE MIKU!! But I just find it dumb that people consider Polar a Hatsune Miku clone. I would actually like to hear your opinions on my argument, that would disprove my point and change my mind :)
err anyway thanks for reading.
Polar claimed to be the first while wearing Miku's hairstyle. She has also had several shorts where she dresses up as Miku. Most famous is the Ievan Polka promotion video where she dressed exactly like Miku to promote it. Then we have the song that released in the same month, rip off. The song where Polar very much admits to copying. Polar is also known for copying KDA and using illegal samples.
JUSTICE FOR ARE QUEEN HATSUNE MIKU!!!!!!!!!!
Why everybody hating polar like.. I know but her looks isn’t really similar to miku except the hair ngl..
A lot of reasons. I'll just name a few of them.
- promoting ai art multiple times
- Having shorts that contain f3tish or other adult content
- XO Team shorts
- Being apart of soul publishing
- Stealing from multiple songs
- Copying KDA and Miku
- The entire rip off and Ivan Polka promotion
- Glorifying harmful topics with the male character
- Polar reacts channel
1:11 African life💀
DAMN DAT COPYCAT>:(
woah
Thats not hatsunemiku that’s smokeebee!
Yeah does look and seem just like Miku
It gather a ierk chan and mochi girl chan together,😏i steam Squats to be warm
Polar is trash tier AI generated bottom of the barrel quality, that is made by corporates who thought they could take a cut of the Miku market.
Not realizing that by coping her they destroyed ANY goodwill miku fans had.
if they made Polar her own thing, and not a outright Miku copycat, then they might have a market but they took a shot at the miku market and lost
The fact how polar has so many bot subs 💀
we are STILL talking about this?
Kinda. Polar's sort of being cancelled for now having more subs/ fans than miku (and by fans, i mean bots) But thankfully her activities have been real slow, so it might be that she's finally getting irrelevant.
She also copied someones mask aswell
THATS THE RIPOFF MIKU 💀💀💀
𝙵𝚛
Polar is not HER. Polar is not that girl
WOAAAAAAHHHHH
WOOOOAAAAHHHHH
COPY THAAAT COPYCAAAT
She also copycatted Smokeebee
?
th-cam.com/video/yptPDsuQPa8/w-d-xo.html First ever Virtual Idol
Idol we all know and love in the Virtuality World th-cam.com/video/jhl5afLEKdo/w-d-xo.html
Chinese Inspired by Miku to Create their Virtual Idol th-cam.com/video/IpmEcRWy9ok/w-d-xo.html
Now we got; The SOul PubliSshing th-cam.com/video/Yanh9NP5Uzs/w-d-xo.html
Now tell me; Is all this Pathetic Drama Neccesary?
Like saying, Polar copied miku, Zhizi copied miku.....
Like no one owns; color palettes, hairstyles, species, and plus when you buy the vocaloid it comes with the ToS, and it says DERIBLATELY*not to use the EXACT design, depending if you Inquire the CFM company if you can Commercial Use the Character itself.....but with the Voice itself you can once you buy it.. and plus CFM allows Derivative/Fanloids to be made of miku since VOCALOID3-4 had this thing called Voice Parameters.... so thats how Akita Neru and Yowane Haku, Calne Calcium, Hagane Miku were born, with slight changes like the color, and the clothes were kinda diff :^
Of course! Its garbage dug out miku!!!!!
They also copied#Smokybee too
I mean #Smookeebee
That was a joke
Nah, Miku looks better than this copycat 💀
She also copied smokee bee
YOU DARE COPY MY FAN
African life? Nawww 💀
finally, migu but bad
uhm what
copycat.
She doesn’t look like hatsune miku
Even so she’s still copying, polars creators acted like it was something new lol
@@Yuukarooand her songs actually suck
Plus their lazy animations