Are the Yakuza Kiwami Games Bad Remakes?
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- Kiwami Means Extreme
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Thanks for sharing this! I had already lost hope for translation patches for both Kenzan and Ishin, so seeing that someone out there actually pulled through for Ishin and is willing to do so for Kenzan makes me really happy. I'll definitely be playing OG Ishin before I even think about playing Pirate Yakuza.
I like how the swearing in yakuza 1 was supposed to make the characters intimidating but ended up being funny and the 10 years in the joint meme was born 😂
10 years? Phil did 20 years in the can and didn't say a peep.
It's like jokes say 1 time it's funny, 3 times it's annoying, 10 times just a meme
And Kiwami doesn't stand out in voice acting.
@@Mohammed1000real You're talking about the English dub of Kiwami, right? I don't know it. These characters just need to speak Japanese for me
Another note about the misplaced music; in Yakuza 1 the original game synced it's music outside of just title cards. For example when Nishiki and Kiryu open their eyes to each other the piano is timed. (Which is replaced by a sound effect in the remake) That but some boss fights like Shimano (Second bossfight) the music would change depending how much health he had left.
pretty sure the remake does the same in the second fight
Last time I checked nope, though I could be wrong. Still, many cutscene tracks have been pretty butchered on the timing, pace and subjectively; quality.
Shimano's theme dynamism remains the same, except instead of just health it's when he heals for a Kiwami move.
Yes but the OG had a lot of mastering and compressing sound issues. At least in the dubbed version. I wasn't able even to appreciate these details when played it on ps2 and a 4:5TV.
In regards to the lacking quality of the Kiwami games, it seems they follow a similar pattern: They were all developed by the new blood in RGG.
When I find it, I'll link below the interview where one of the devs (probably Yokoyama) explained that they leave some of their projects in the hands of new employees so they can acquire experience (this was specifically the case for Ishin Kiwami because they wanted the new guys to learn to use the Unreal Engine).
I think it's safe to assume that all 3 of the Kiwamis were budget projects not just because of lacking budgets, but moreso because of their purpose as "training grounds" for RGG.
they generally wanted to learn unreal engine because of VF6 is assume
They diffenetely were budget projects, because of mainline games being developed at the same time. Like Kiwami 1 and Y6 were developed at the same exact time which led to very cheap remake of first game and undercooked Yakuza 6. Or Kiwami 2 was made at the same time as Judgment i believe (and because of that K2 had left over animations from judgment). This is a very stupid practice and i hate it. Yakuza 6 is still my favorite, but certain problems was just a result of this absolutely retarded release tactic.
@@Geagra yup tbh Kiwami 1 should've been the first DE game and then drop Yakuza 6 on 2017 or even later that way Yakuza 6 could have been like Kiwami 2 and Kiwami 2 would've have been peak Kiryu DE since the game would've been so polished
green is my favorite color :(
Green is not a creative colour
It also represents vomit, like i'm not even joking.
Well, your favorite color doesn’t work great as a filter in Yakuza Kiwami 2. I’m sorry.
Not bad remakes, just profoundly okay games in general
But as replacements of the Originals?
Big no.
one thing: kiwami 2 does NOT reflect the state of club sega in 2006, with the sega toylet and posters from games after 2006
@@a.d.9825 Damn true. However I need to find those toylets in real life. That will be a lot of fun,😂
Forgot to mention majima was playable in deadsouls
@@TOCHOPRIME He specified mainline games, dead souls( I prefer the Japanese name Of the End more) is a spin-off.
It's a spin-off title, not canon to the overall story.
If only RGG and SEGA would release the remasters of the first 2 games outside of Japan...
Like RGG is so hellbent on making missteps by not re-releasing them.
Like the Resident Evil 5 green filter I never noticed it in re5 and Kiwami 2 until someone pointed it out.
Point to majima saga transfer thingie: the last one is a gun that can be traded into kamiyama for 3 million yen. Since kamiyama’s shop expands depending on the amount of yen you earn from selling weapons into it, this unlocks pretty much the whole shop aside from the weapon unlocked at 5 million yen
I never played OG 1 and 2, so the only thing that really bugs me is that shinseicho isnt in there since it would have been cool to have an additional area, but i respect your oppinion and your video is great. i always love discoerving new yakuza analysis on youtube.
You should play the OGs with the Restored mods, it's actually awesome!!
@@Mohammed1000real honestly if you already know the story of the first game well.... giving the shitty yakuza 1 dub a shot is worth it LOL
fun fact: there's not a single unique moveset in kiwami 1. i've been trying moveset modding and i've been identifying many movesets taken from other games (i.e. ishin's izo moveset is used for koji shindo's moveset, part of daigo's moveset is used for some minibosses, akiyama's moveset is used for a coliseum fighter)
this is definitely the best video so far regarding this discourse, enjoyed every second of it 🙏
"The massive success of Zero has the unfortunate consequence of creating a new standard for the character [Majima] that didn't exist beforehand, and rather than having full confidence in what was originally there, they felt the need to push Majima into games where he wasn't needed as a cheap way to appeal to these new players." (35:43)
This is spot on. I actually feel the exact same way about the new Majima pirate game that's coming out. The only reason this game exists is because he's a popular character. His role as protagonist seems questionable to me. They even gave him amnesia for the events of this game's story to work.
"The only reason x exists is because of popular y." -Man discovering the secret of modern media
Right, which is why we get garbage like the Majima Saga.
your point makes no sense at all why wouldn’t a popular character get his own game? it’s how things work you idiot
@@randomatomizer6652 Well, I appreciate your opinion despite being so wrong. Majima has always been a happy accident and has been built game by game. If they kept him in his original form, we won't be having this conversation today. You, as everybody else who played the OG version would forget about this funny mid game boss a long time ago. But the fact that people like him more even than Kiryu makes me think that they did something right about him until now. Let's cross our fingers and hope this pirate version don't break him in any way instead of being so negative, ok?
What Im seeing in you is a 1st Gen Fans issue that know too well. And is as useful as gatekeeping here... Are you trying to have an edgy criticism against fan favorites like him or Zero in general? If it's the case, just stop hurting yourself and enjoy the game. Being popular =\= being bad
great video, i agree with you on pretty much everything except with the first kiwami being extremely subpar, i think it's just subpar because at least they tried adding new content unlike kiwami 2 which removed tons of stuff.
i really wish we got official ports of those games on modern platforms, i don't like when developers act like the remake must replace the original, they both offer different experiences and it should be up to the consumer to decide which version they want to play
But that doesn't mean Kiwami 1 is the definitive Yakuza 1 in terms of presentation.
14:30 10 years in the joint
I knew this comment would be here, but I did not know it'd be from five minutes ago LMAO
9:43 When a boss does there heal thing, you can use any heat action to interrupt it, it’s just easier to switch styles if you have heat to the style with the Kiwami heat action instead of pulling a weapon on a moment’s notice to quickly pull off a heat action.
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This sentence summarizes a lot of my problems with the whole “modern remake” culture, I guess you could call it. A lot of the people I’ve seen saying the original versions of games that have since been remade are outdated are people who probably haven’t played the originals. If they did, they probably wouldn’t say the game is outdated. I saw this a lot with Persona 3 Reload and Dead Rising Deluxe Remaster, just as examples of more recent remakes.
Edit: got the wrong timestamp, whoops. Fixed it.
once again, people making me have buyers remorse for reload. stop it!
@ I can’t say I haven’t felt the same at points, I won’t lie.
@@hgmd3284 if you played the game and enjoyed it, though, I don’t think you should feel like you wasted your money
@@hgmd3284 No need to be like that. As a person who adores Persona 3 Portable, Reload easily replaced it for me and I consider it to be my favourite game of all time. The differences are really not that big, really, Reload is not the wrong Persona 3 version. It's great.
This actually ticked me off a little bit with Silent Hill 2 especially. Don't get me wrong, the Silent Hill 2 remake is really good and a surprise hit for sure, but at least for me doesn't make OG Silent Hill 2 "outdated" because of it, in fact, I argue the OG version is still better than the remake. So it's disheartening to see people not play the originals because "oh there's a remake so the original is outdated, no point in playing it!". Like no, give the OG version a try, it's a masterpiece as far as I consider, this same goes for Resident Evil 2 as well now that I think about it.
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Speaking of the silly "knife" sound effect. They use a similar one during the scene where Kume stabs Masato at the very end. And just like the Y2K knife scene, it's made worse by it.
I really don't understand why they feel the need to add that sound effect during these scenes...
For the record, the Legend Style in Yakuza 0 is basically a hyper-primitive version of what would become his signature moveset because he doesn't have access to any Komaki techniques. Not sure if you address this later in the video, but you definitely don't address it when you seemingly say that Y0 only had 3 movesets at the beginning.
Really? And what was all that stuff with the animal prints in the colliseum about then? Maybe there were a few but a speciffically remember one of the branches in the red dragon tier being all about Komaki technics.
Yep having 4 styles in kiwami makes no sense
I just found this vid in my feed, really enjoyed it, and turns out all your videos are right up my alley 💪 great job dude, this is kind of content I'm all in for 👍
Generally I agree, except I actually really liked Majima everywhere and that was a high point for me in the game due to how unexpected the encounters often were. Which was really needed because I really did not like the combat in Kiwami. Trash enemies barely attacked, but everyone else was really frustrating to fight because they would constantly guard and evade almost perfectly, which was only compounded by the fact that dragon style was near unusable if you didn't have any heat built up. Also Beast style got unfairly nerfed and FR Screw the final boss fight, it was terrible.
Also, the hostess club minigame in K2 did expand on it, hostesses have perks which there was one type of perk that was honestly OP
Very good video. I'm a big proponent in playing the series in release order as you can see how the series evolved, and it makes it easier to transition into the HD era (certainly easier than K2 to 3). I wish Sega and RGG would re-release the HD collection, with an English localization. Just use the Kiwami scripts, editing out the fluff that wasn't in the original. Include the first game's dub as a bonus since honestly, every LaD fan needs to experience that masterpiece of crap.
I haven't played the original Ishin, but I noticed things felt off when I played the remake when it came out. Like how Tiger Drop was completely useless.
Yakuza 1 restored is my favourite way to revisit 1. Kiwami isnt bad, but I personally just love PS2 era games. I just wish the PS2 games were ported to modern systems and PC. Going from 0-Kiwami-Kiwami 2-3 is also just strange for new players, especially since I think release order is the best way to play the series.
Finally!
Someone who finally enjoys the Restored versions of the OG.
Funny enough I just got and played Kiwami. I never played any other Yakuza game before but I really enjoyed this.
I get why Majima would bother people but I absolutely loved it. It was just so absurd that I found it funny. Maybe he'd start bothering me if I keep playing but he didn't during the main story which took 20 hours for me.
If this is subpar I think I'll love the rest of Yakuza.
Same, but I actually played 0 first and stopped at Chapter 2 for some reason, and then finished Kiwami 1 because I had both. Guess I had a short attention span back then lol
Even you should give the originals a try as well.
the added scenes with nishiki definitely make kiwami 1 definitive (for first time players at least) but I will always prefer the ps2 game. something about the ps2 and their games atmospheres and lighting is just amazing
That's the only thing besides combat, that Kiwami 1 got right but the original shouldn't be left in the dust.
The fist bouncing off the enemies took away the fun of combat when hitting various enemies at the same time, because it's guaranteed one of them is gonna block it when you are about to hit the heavy attack.
I really enjoy your Yakuza videos. I never had the opportunity to play the older games, so it's interesting to hear an opinion from someone who did.
OG Yakuza 2 is peak in my eyes, I did not enjoy Kiwami 2 and its early Dragon Engine bs. Also the music replace was a war crime.
if you don’t enjoy them don’t ever play the yakuza series again we don’t want you here
@lumbago.is.serious this was a funny reply. Man, people really hate criticism.
Sorry, not going anywhere.
I actually like sound of breath a lot LMAO but it did admittidly make me kinda chuckle upon first hearing it. and the original song is. yeah amazing
As OG Yakuza 2 player, i wholeheartedly agree.
Wouldn't be so bad if the real things were available on PC.
But they're not. 1, 2 and Ishin are still locked away.
All games are completely capable of being emulated thankfully, and 1/2 don't require a demanding system to run them (plus 1/2 also have restoration mods to improve their localization). Ishin is unfortunately a bit harder to get access to since PS3 emulation requires a strong computer but thankfully with the release of the English patch, the game is now more accessible since it's playable on both emulator and PS3.
@@ItsAllstarBrose Wait, is the English patch of Ishin PS3 out, or are you talking about the machine translation?
@@BuryTheLight-tds theres an actual patch for og ishin on ps3 now, not by project historic but someone else
@@chibilawl which one is it? I couldn't find any ishin translations that was actually released
@@ItsAllstarBrose Emulation's not good enough. Until a real PC port of all three come around, there's always gonna be unfinished business.
Yo great video, i really liked it
the answer is yes and people need to grow up and play the playstation 2 games
Thank you, that's exactly what i'm saying!!
Very good video, I'm shocked at the nuance with your discussion since it feels like most people online tend to just go "Nah Kiwami is prettier and doesn't have awkward PS2 controls. Kiwami sweeps!". The only thing I disagree with is that K1's combat is great; I personally think the game using all of 0's mechanics causes some major issues since Y1 is a game full of gun and knife enemies and I personally found the cripple animation to be infuriating to deal with.
There's also one big I think people don't talk about enough (of which you touched on): Both Kiwamis have a lack of originality. 99% of the bosses have reused movesets which makes them feel really lazily made especially once you've gone through the whole series (this argument can also apply to Judgment but that game has more going for it besides the combat imo). There are also a complete lack of original content in both games with the most they do being remixes of prior minigames or Toylets, on top of that both games cut substories with K1 also cutting a really good cutscene substory on top of slashing down The Fake Mizuki.
Now for the Ishin "remake"... it can't even be called a true remake since it still uses the base engine as the original and only uses UE4 as a renderer. Somehow despite this, they made some major changes to the core combat by slowing down sword to the point you'll reach the original combo speed by getting both upgrades and by nuking unarmed's damage and forcing you to use seals (which I have a whole video on why the new seal system is awful) to increase your damage. The heat action damage is also the same in both games, the only reason for you experiencing damage being so low in the original is because on Hard or above, you have the heat action damage cut for the rest of the fight. Besides that, the one good thing that KIshin does is cut down on some grinding for the Virtue List but in exchange it extends the crafting grinding by making you need over 14 times the money in a game where they patched out the one good grind and changing the seal upgrading system from a simple minigame to a full-on RNG grindfest. Now that the original has a patch, you can play what I'd call the better version but I personally don't think Ishin's a good game overall.
Really nice to see someone have similar thoughts to the games as I do, I think too many people are too quick to speak ill of the original PS2 releases and that hurts me to see. It's incredibly cathartic to hear someone else detest Majima Saga as much as me too. Definitely gonna keep watching your stuff, keep it up!
Not to diminish your internet experience but I think you must use Twitter or some other social media too much because to be quite frank as time has gone on I've seen nothing but hate for any Yakuza game ending with "Kiwami" on youtube, with only a minor begrudging acceptance of Kiwami 1 for being the most okay game out of them all. Any and all praise I've seen for them has come from either the modding scene, and even then since Ishin Kiwami doesn't have much of any kind of modding scene there's basically nothing keeping it propped up, or people who haven't played the originals praising the remakes for qualities both the originals and remakes have (story, characters, etc.).
I think people are too quick to speak ill on both the originsls and the remakes. I've seen discourse on both sides that are just full of spite refusing to play both sides. Frankly, rather recently I've seen the Kiwami games being thrashed around without much actual criticism given, which is unfortunate. I feel like the community recently has been incredibly negative in response to what they deem "toxic positivity" so they start claiming and talking about controversial opinions. I've even seen one or two TH-camrs insult another TH-camr just because they claimed a specific game in the series was underrated and fun to them. Not to mean yours is controversial, by the way. You make good points and I would say the "Kiwami is bad" opinion is actually becoming the popular thing, with more and more players coming into the scene. To me I think both the originals and the remakes have their flaws and positives, and I'll always be eager to play either of them (with Kiwami 2, the replayability comes from the modding scene as I don't really like that game compared to the original).
Yakuza 1 and Kiwami are both very fun - with Y1 being a short fun experience and Kiwami having the best combat pre-Lost Judgment imo. Yakuza 2's combat is just an enhanced Y1 so that's a plus too
Not a bad remakes, it's just disappointing for the most part and also, it gets flack due to everyone giving it the universal treatment which is honestly doesn't need that treatment.
And what i don't like about Kiwami 1 & 2 is people treating it as a replacement of the Originals, which is clearly dumb.
Although i really do recommend you start this journey with the OG games via the Restored mod in each.
Edit: i'm not a Kiwami hater but again, Yakuza 0 was a more logical start next to playing the originals first.
i'd not even call ishin a remake it's a port in a new engine. it's like how the recent ninja gaidan 2 black is just sigma 2 in ue5 .
Card system?
@@morkgin2459 pretty sure the cards were in og ishin. only now they can be used outside of the dungeon side activity.
I prefer the original games to the remakes, like the only good thing about Kiwami 1 is the Nishiki flashbacks except the final one
I don't think they're good remakes, but I like them overall. I recently went back to platinum Kiwami 1 and enjoyed it despite its many shortcomings.
I should get around to playing the HD collection on PS3 at some point, since it's been a very long time since I played them and I never finished OG 2 back in the day.
As someone who played and beat the OG Yakuza 1 (while beating Amon in it too), Kiwami 1 is just... meh. It combines Yakuza 0 Combat, PS2 Cutscene Animations (outside of Nishiki's) with new models, green filter, and QUITE FRANKLY THE WORSE GUN BOSS I'VE EVER SEEN.
Kiwami 1 isn't bad but it isn't good enough in my opinion to be praised like the second coming of Christ. My issues from Kiwami 1 just stem from the issues of Dragon just feeling... not as good. Double finishers take heat, can't pick people up or drag their feet, Komaki Parry doing jack and rather just being completely useless to perform with. Also why couldn't Dragon just be the only style like in Yakuza 1? I have mixed opinions for Kiwami as a mediocre remake that borrows from Yakuza 0 combat, mixing with how Yakuza 1 combat worked (which ends up sucking because of the fights being mostly group fights and JINGU. OH MY GOD WHY.)
If you like Kiwami, that's alright no hate to ya and understandable if it's one of the first games you play in chronological order after 0.
(I don't talk about Kiwami 2 because I believe Yakuza 2 is ultimately the BETTER one and I will not budge on that hill.)
Don't lie to yourself buddy, it's almost impossible to drop a tiger drop and komaki counters in og yakuza 1. It's just that bad.
@austerplay47 What do you mean? I never said OG Yakuza 1 combat was good, in fact it's pretty much *the* worst version of the Dragon of Dojima fighting style and the counters are just stricter to perform, when you learn the timing and windows you can perform it more reliably. I don't give much crap for it because it's the first game in the series and the only reason why I prefer OG > Kiwami is cus of how the tone is consistently kept through the story but with the goofy bits still in and the fights feeling monumental compared to Kiwami just being... tedious. Also the OG OST is just better in my opinion but some of the Kiwami remakes are good.
@@Trankser You are entitled to your opinion but the boss fights are better and harder in kiwami, PS2 bosses were too easy and boring, especially the jingu and nishikiyama boss fights.
@@austerplay47 The reused movesets for some of the bosses in Kiwami felt off for me, especially for Shimano who was essentially Shakedown on a diet plan. But you're right, the PS2 bosses were easier (Amon was just hell cus of 3 phases) but I'll agree the Nishikiyama fight in Kiwami was overall better. Jingu's boss fight in Kiwami still sucks in my opinion though. I shudder in fear from the two cronies he has as he throws grenades at me...
@@austerplay47 No thank you, the OG wins here.
I remember when I beat Kiwami 2's final Ryuji fight with only tiger drop.
Kiwami 1 was my introduction to the original Yakuza, and I was fairly disappointed when I realized it was essentially a DLC expansion to 0, just with an atrocious 3rd act as far as encounter design goes
It really should have been given an extra year or so, because its clear they didn't have time to properly consider the particulars of Kiwami. It feels so sterile, even without having played the original
I think kiwami 1 is flawed remake while kiwami 2 is just bad remake
Both of em are flawed, Kiwami 2 isn't "bad" just because it had some cut locations.
We need to stop pretending these antiquated ps2 games still hold up today.
People complain about Yakuza 3's combat and it is leagues better then both 1's and 2's. The Kiwami games are fine, they're not bad in the slightest. We need to stop this bullshit narrative and take off the Rose Tinted Glasses.
@tonyflamingo3444 People complain about Yakuza 3's combat because enemies always fucking block, it makes it a slog to play through.
@@tonyflamingo3444 I prefer 1 and 2s ps2 combat to 3s honestly, the only real problem with it is the camera being somewhat annoying. telling other people theyre nostalgia blind also isnt very much more helpful than someone actually being nostalgia blind btw. people can like older things legitimately and its so strange how people always try to dismiss that
@@dreadfulroses I get that but I think I was just annoyed with people constantly trying to shit on the Kiwami's by constantly comparing them to older, more jank games instead of just letting them stand on their own as their own game. You can prefer one over the other but you shouldn't compare them as they are about 10 years apart
It's a common sentiment in the Yakuza community and I'm just tired of it.
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Good for you
Baffling that you didnt compare the end of drama to the end of dogma
i like the rest of the video tho :))
40:45 Ryu go gotoki 💀In all seriousness, I do think Ishin Kiwami falls more under the Remaster or even port categories more so than a remake. I mean it's literally just the original game ported to UE4, with the only changes being the trooper cards, recasting, and very slight combat tweaks. No idea why they chose to add "Kiwami" in the Japanese title since it's pretty much just a full-price rerelease over there.
The only thing brand new is the substory and new karaoke songs
They added Ms tatsu , Akari , Bacchus (who's straight up just a model port from 0 with no changes) , Kanda , Shindo and Shinji
@@FernHous I genuienly forgot about the zero characters even being in the game lmao
I feel bad for pointing this out, but your pronunciation of acupuncture reminded me of the Machu Picchu scene from K-On.
I feel like a crazy man when I said I didn't fall in love with Kiwami 1 and 2. As someone who never played the originals, I felt something was off about the remakes, especially the second one, like it was missing that somethin' somethin'. Loved Yakuza 0, liked Yakuza 3 (it isn't as bad as people make it out to be), but I didn't love Kiwami 1 and 2, thought the two games was ok and that was it
But again, you should give the original games a try.
Greenwami
not sure if i’m the only one but ever since kiwami 2 was announced and i got my hands on it, i really wish they would have gone with the ps3 engine. I appreciate what kiwami 2 did with helping to find the dragon engine’s footing but thinking about yakuza 2 with the gameplay and visuals of yakuza 0 really makes me think about what could’ve been.
I've played those Three Remakes, and they're not bad. But I will complain that the Money in Ishin, was very frustrating to get by. Since they've downgraded the Cock Race (Chicken/Rooster Race), due to it being an Exploiting of Quick and Small Chance of Winning. Like GTA SA's Horse Betting.
I don't mind people liking these remakes, but so many RGG fans are sensitive to any sort of criticism towards this series, which is a shame.
2:14 and you know what else is massive...?
Yes, next question. But seriously I can see an argument being made for K1 being better than OG but for K2 I vastly prefer the original. For Ishin I haven't played the OG but I don't like the replaced music and faces, it just feels wrong. Especially how for one battle they replaced the amazing track that plays in it with town bully of all things. I also just don't like that it's in unreal, some things cause the game to run awfully like that one battle in the flames where Ryoma turns super saiyan for some reason. Can't say how well it compares to OG ishin but it's the first Yakuza game I just did not enjoy at all.
Sorry to say, but shame on you for bashing on the original.
hey man not cool i love green :(
2:14 Repeat that?
Kiwami 1: no
Kiwami 2: ehh. I think it’s really good game on its own right, but as a remake it’s just really mediocre.
Ishin: Yes. Should’ve just been a remastered like you said.
I actually liked majima saga from a story perspective, but I agree it sucks gameplay wise. I feel like if it was some sort of canon animated movie, it would’ve been great.
these games are extremely weird
Implying the other yakuza games aren't ;)
quite kiwamily weird
You say that like the other Yakuza games aren't.
@@apanofbread thank you for being the only person to get the joke
BTW majima in kiwami 2 also has that counter move from y0 but it isn't mentioned anywhere.
Because it's not there for some reason.
@Mohammed1000real bro
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I found old enough video so that you don't think it's a mod or something
How hard it is to either try it ingame yourself or google it
@Mohammed1000real
I think my previous response got deleted (and I don't see it anymore), sorry if I sent this twice
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I made a mistake!
They're dragon engine so yea
I love enemies who either super-armor everything that's not a heat-action or weapon OR die in 2 hits
I agree with everything, except one thing, they are not abusing 0 likeness because of new players, it was because 0 made them known worldwide and the dev team still thinks that 0 is the peak and the path to follow thisis why most rgg games have stuff from 0 like the multiple fighting styles, gaiden having the money to buy skills, the pocket circuit, judgement 2 having 4 fighting styles, the annoying sad substory song and so on.
They can be creative and their biggest thing was making the main games full on rpgs, but they are including a bit of 0 in every game and it became tiresome; at this point they have enough resources to make 0 kiwami.
Also for the Osaka tower id like to think that they didn't have a permit for it since they use real restaurants and tons of real products
I played both yakuza ps2 and kiwami and i enjoy kiwami more. It's funny after i finished yakuza1 i try to play yakuza 2 on the ps2 and i quit it in the first 30 minutes. Once i saw the fixed angels were still there and the dodge was still trash i quit. Although, if i grew up with the ps2 games it would be different.
Oh look, a redditor.
I think yakuza fans just hate rgg no matter what
No one hates Yakuza more than Yakuza fans. (same with Persona fans, but I digress) Seems like I've been seeing more videos like this more recently than anything positive about the games.
criticism = hate apparently. All of the points he makes in this video are reasonable and point out some of the flaws in these games. He also says that none of these games are bad. This is my problem with a lot of RGG fans (TBH this also happens with a lot of other games too) they think that pointing out any flaws/strange decisions means they hate the series.
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when people like something they usually tend to be more critical of it (except redditors for whatever reason). you can be extremely critical towards something you like and still be a fan and not a mindless hater
Extremely vilifying? Huh?
I may or may not be stupid
You are wrong about the statement that nothing transpired from Majima's saga into the main game. The fact that you can send Kiryu money (to buy him a gift) also unlocks some special weapons that don't break in the shop, and without them I won't ever been able to finish the battles against the Amon family. So yes, there is a point.
And no mention about this mode makes me ask: did you even check Devola's barman missions?
I agree with almost every one of your opinions about the flaws from these two remakes but also you didn't say anything new. All those critics have been comented over and over in the community and I can think myself a few more that nobody use to mention that would have improved your video. But again, maybe you didn't have the time to complete them to 100%. If you return to Kiwami 2 I recommend you to try those battles. I had a lot of fun with them and the harder version of each mission was really challenging.
My general opinion about them is this:
Yakuza Kiwami is better than Yakuza OG
Yakuza 2 OG is better than Kiwami 2
Ishin OG is almost the same as Kiwami Ishin. Maybe I preferred the modeling and general color toning from the OG but the fact that Ishin Kiwami didn't run in that terrible dragon engine and had decent physics, was enough to make me enjoy
And finally 😂...
Majima Saga would be better than any Sayama expansion (I just don't give a f**k about her or any forced romance situations, including those in the Majima Saga itself)
Again, OG Yakuza 1 should be enjoyable with the Restored mod.
@@Mohammed1000real What mod is that? I play Yakuza OG emulated in pcsx2 and would like to try it. However, despite it's flaws Kiwami is just better. You have 4 fighting styles and I love how combat feels before the Dragon Engine. You have much more background story and for me personally Majima Everywhere is the reason why I return again and again to play it despite having 100%
No kiwami 1 was a masterpiece
in my opinion, kiwami 1 yes, kiwami 2, not as much. And I'm not too familiar with the original ishin to form an opinion
Don't care. I'm having fun with them.
In short: No. Bye.
Kiwami 1, no. Kiwami 2, absolutely.
@@baharry i dissagree with the kiwami 2 part.
@@baharry Both are no, bye.
nobody has a worse opinion on anything related to the yakuza games than a fan of yakuza, not my words but the fact that we are having this discussion... eh...
@TrenkaiLeand yeah, i think the issue is why try to make something subjective look like a fact.
No
No… They’re not. I just saved everyone an hour. Next!
Why do the always say Knee-she-key
It’s Nishki!