A great suggestion by Grumpy. It's hard to imagine the bravery of the men of 36 and 100 Squadrons as they faced off against the Japanese. Also surprised by the affection the Kiwis have for the Vildebeest. Check out the Air Force Museum of New Zealand channel ( @airforcemuseumofnewzealand9412 ) their restoration work is amazing. th-cam.com/video/_lahK_I0BY8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KJJrGyLDc-NI1boB
Foolish as well. They knew they would be outclassed. Their bravery is commendable if ill judged by them and their superior officers who ordered them into the air. Desperate time for the British Forces in Asia. It was a cruel war as all wars are. Fighting for peace is an anathema. The British had no choice given that they were the occupying forces themselves and were duty bound to protect the Empire and its territories including the trade routes and the lucrative raw materials that Japan so badly wanted for its own industries to aid their war efforts in establishing an empire for itself driven by blind ambition and misguided military leaders.
Very impressed with your channel . Informative without being opinionated . The RAF were thrown into WW2 with so many obsolete aircraft on the inventory , the result of pre war defense cuts. Thousands of well trained , intelligent your lives were thrown away . not through callousness , but thats all we have to fight with. Its hard to realize the in 1939 an 150 mph reccon plane would be suoerceded in a couple of years by a 450 mph aircraft. No other time in history had weaponry been advanced so quickly.
The best version for rubber power would be the Spanish CASA Type 245, unlike the British versions, the Spanish variant was powered by an inline Hispano-Suiza V-12. This made the nose proportionally longer, a desirable trait in a rubber powered model.
Those blaming pre war parsimony for the use of the Vildebeest to assist the suicide of aircrew in 1942 should take into account the modern aircraft that were protecting the mother country from a non-existent invasion. This was two years into the war. Denuding active theatres of war to build little empires at home was a real contrast to how the Axis worked, and is reminiscent of Chiang Kai Shek's warlords protecting their valuable assets rather than hurting the enemy. Great video, great photos. I have the 1/72 model kit from the thumbnail: one of the most difficult models I've managed to build.
Indeed. Whatever that might have been sent would have to be withdrawn from active theatres of battle which needed those new aeroplanes urgently themselves.
@@johnfisk811 My opinion... and certainly it's just my opinion... is those who replaced Dowding and Park were not very good, and hoarding Spitfires and light bombers to make pointless Rhubarbs into France was just glory seeking. After Barbarossa, the Germans held these raids with a minimum of force. The kill/loss ratio at times approached 20/1! Allied pilots were lost by the score and nobody cared about how many bombs fell on Lille or Cherbourg. Meanwhile, the "active theatres of war" were struggling along with Hurricanes, Buffaloes and even Gladiators... and Vildebeests. A brutal waste of good aircrew.
@@lllordllloyd I generally agree but they were also being driven from above to demonstrate some action in the west to the Soviets. The strategic influence of that helping keep the Soviets in the war was a factor, even if very minor. The drive to do that is also demonstrated by the diversion of armour and aeroplanes to the Soviets and, at the time Moscow was being closely approached, a significant proportion of the Soviet armour was British supplied. There was a point to it. It was gamble to keep the best away from the Far East but the gap between what was available and the demand from theatres of action made such gambles understandable at the time. We have full hindsight but they did not. With hindsight they would have down graded the priority of UK Air Defence in favour of the Middle East and passed on the lesser quality aeroplanes from the Middle East to Burma and Malaya but they made the judgement that they did on what they knew and expected. Similarly no one predicated planning on an assumption that France would fall in the first campaign in 1940. Why would one at the time?
it took guts to climb into a 1920s aircraft and go off to face the next generation of modern aircraft flown by very good Japanese pilots, who had been tested in the ongoing second Sino-Japanese war.
@@MrDino1953 The lad is a rarity among TH-camrs, he listens to his viewers comment and makes changes as required. Shows true dedication to both his work and his subs. We need to get him up over 100,000 subs.
I'm kind of amused they spelled it pretty much the way it would be pronounced in Dutch just to keep with the alliteration British aircraft manufacturers were so fond of for their products.
@@Aircraft_Files Vickers were known for giving their aircraft names that started with a "V". Over the history of the company, only a handful of aircraft had names that didn't begin with V and most of those were the bombers that used geodetic construction. Makes me wonder if the choice of names which began with "W" for those aircraft was a reference to Barnes Wallis, who was responsible for that construction method and often wrongly credited as their designer🤔
Viderbeest is an Afrikaans corruption. South Africa was a very important part of the British Empire strategically and for its resources and raw materials. This plane would have been ideal for the Veld in the Orange Free State and Kwa Zulu Natal. I think it was an internal memo from within Whitehall by some bean counter who named this project to build the plane in the early 1930’s. It would have been cheap to produce compared to the development of monoplanes and the armaments along with the torpedoes would have been considered adequate for the type of warfare envisioned at that time by High Command. The fact that they were produced in such low numbers suggests it was only meant as a stop gap.
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A great suggestion by Grumpy. It's hard to imagine the bravery of the men of 36 and 100 Squadrons as they faced off against the Japanese.
Also surprised by the affection the Kiwis have for the Vildebeest. Check out the Air Force Museum of New Zealand channel ( @airforcemuseumofnewzealand9412 ) their restoration work is amazing. th-cam.com/video/_lahK_I0BY8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KJJrGyLDc-NI1boB
Excellent work, yet again.
Thanks. It's a labour of love researching the trove of information around these aircraft.
Love the coverage of somewhat obscure aircraft.
These outliers were often very Important too. I'm amazed how many very brave men climbed into the cockpit of older aircraft to face modern aircraft.
Foolish as well. They knew they would be outclassed. Their bravery is commendable if ill judged by them and their superior officers who ordered them into the air. Desperate time for the British Forces in Asia. It was a cruel war as all wars are. Fighting for peace is an anathema. The British had no choice given that they were the occupying forces themselves and were duty bound to protect the Empire and its territories including the trade routes and the lucrative raw materials that Japan so badly wanted for its own industries to aid their war efforts in establishing an empire for itself driven by blind ambition and misguided military leaders.
@@davidgaine4697 somewhat ironic too given the Sempill Mission in the 20's.
That's Anoither great video. Quickly becoming my favourite channel.
High praise. Thanks.
Very impressed with your channel . Informative without being opinionated .
The RAF were thrown into WW2 with so many obsolete aircraft on the inventory , the result of pre war defense cuts. Thousands of well trained , intelligent your lives were thrown away . not through callousness , but thats all we have to fight with.
Its hard to realize the in 1939 an 150 mph reccon plane would be suoerceded in a couple of years by a 450 mph aircraft. No other time in history had weaponry been advanced so quickly.
Thank you for that wonderful compliment.
That would make for a very good WW2 rubberband powered model for the Flying Aces Club. Plans are around for it too.
The best version for rubber power would be the Spanish CASA Type 245, unlike the British versions, the Spanish variant was powered by an inline Hispano-Suiza V-12. This made the nose proportionally longer, a desirable trait in a rubber powered model.
Good video lad. Keep up the good work.
Those blaming pre war parsimony for the use of the Vildebeest to assist the suicide of aircrew in 1942 should take into account the modern aircraft that were protecting the mother country from a non-existent invasion. This was two years into the war.
Denuding active theatres of war to build little empires at home was a real contrast to how the Axis worked, and is reminiscent of Chiang Kai Shek's warlords protecting their valuable assets rather than hurting the enemy.
Great video, great photos. I have the 1/72 model kit from the thumbnail: one of the most difficult models I've managed to build.
Thanks for the feedback.
Indeed. Whatever that might have been sent would have to be withdrawn from active theatres of battle which needed those new aeroplanes urgently themselves.
@@johnfisk811 My opinion... and certainly it's just my opinion... is those who replaced Dowding and Park were not very good, and hoarding Spitfires and light bombers to make pointless Rhubarbs into France was just glory seeking. After Barbarossa, the Germans held these raids with a minimum of force. The kill/loss ratio at times approached 20/1! Allied pilots were lost by the score and nobody cared about how many bombs fell on Lille or Cherbourg.
Meanwhile, the "active theatres of war" were struggling along with Hurricanes, Buffaloes and even Gladiators... and Vildebeests. A brutal waste of good aircrew.
@@lllordllloyd I generally agree but they were also being driven from above to demonstrate some action in the west to the Soviets. The strategic influence of that helping keep the Soviets in the war was a factor, even if very minor. The drive to do that is also demonstrated by the diversion of armour and aeroplanes to the Soviets and, at the time Moscow was being closely approached, a significant proportion of the Soviet armour was British supplied. There was a point to it. It was gamble to keep the best away from the Far East but the gap between what was available and the demand from theatres of action made such gambles understandable at the time. We have full hindsight but they did not. With hindsight they would have down graded the priority of UK Air Defence in favour of the Middle East and passed on the lesser quality aeroplanes from the Middle East to Burma and Malaya but they made the judgement that they did on what they knew and expected. Similarly no one predicated planning on an assumption that France would fall in the first campaign in 1940. Why would one at the time?
Such a brilliant, informative and interesting channel, you deserve far more subs 👍🍻
Thank you for the praise. The channel is new and growing.
Always get to see the lesser known types get a mention. Especially those that saw some service, be it rather painfully. Great vid.
Thanks. Some of those interwar birds are great. Amazing to think how quickly the Germans advanced.
Thank you - loved it.
My Pleasure. :-)
Great video
Hit the like and subbed looking forward to the next ome
Glad you enjoyed it.
Good grief imagine going up against Oscars and Zero’s in one of those very brave and extremely tragic 🇦🇺🇬🇧
Lest we forget.
it took guts to climb into a 1920s aircraft and go off to face
the next generation of modern aircraft flown by very good Japanese pilots,
who had been tested in the ongoing second Sino-Japanese war.
You have spelled Vickers wrongly in the thumbnail image.
Fixed. Thanks so much for the heads up.
@@Aircraft_Files- wow, that was quick! 😳
@@MrDino1953 embarrassment is a great motivator :-)
@@MrDino1953 The lad is a rarity among TH-camrs, he listens to his viewers comment and makes changes as required. Shows true dedication to both his work and his subs. We need to get him up over 100,000 subs.
I'm kind of amused they spelled it pretty much the way it would be pronounced in Dutch just to keep with the alliteration British aircraft manufacturers were so fond of for their products.
Apparently it was a spelling mistake. :-)
@@Aircraft_Files Vickers were known for giving their aircraft names that started with a "V". Over the history of the company, only a handful of aircraft had names that didn't begin with V and most of those were the bombers that used geodetic construction. Makes me wonder if the choice of names which began with "W" for those aircraft was a reference to Barnes Wallis, who was responsible for that construction method and often wrongly credited as their designer🤔
No mention of Hong Kong RAF Kaitak VVs and the raid on Canton!
Didn't see any mention. Which Squadron was in HK?
Viderbeest is an Afrikaans corruption. South Africa was a very important part of the British Empire strategically and for its resources and raw materials. This plane would have been ideal for the Veld in the Orange Free State and Kwa Zulu Natal. I think it was an internal memo from within Whitehall by some bean counter who named this project to build the plane in the early 1930’s. It would have been cheap to produce compared to the development of monoplanes and the armaments along with the torpedoes would have been considered adequate for the type of warfare envisioned at that time by High Command. The fact that they were produced in such low numbers suggests it was only meant as a stop gap.
Low numbers also because it was highly specialised in coastal defence, a relatively new concept.
Uglier than a Stuka!
Blimey, it is isnt it...?