It is all the same river. The Little Ocqueoc flows into the Ocqueoc just down M68 a bit from where you turned to go into the road to the underground's. It is less than 10 miles from where I have lived all my life. A very magical spot. Hope you visited the falls too! And that whole track of land is for sale. There has been talk of turning it into a conservatory. I sure hope so.....it deserves to be loved by the public.
The Little Ocqueoc is a tributary to the main Ocqueoc then, right? That's what I had assumed. I went to the falls the same day, which was two or three weeks ago and it was in the low seventies. The place was packed with people. I went back last Tuesday and made another video of the falls. Are there any other good places to check out in the Rogers City/Onaway area? I'm in Alpena, so it's not too far to go. I have to get to Mystery Valley and the Bruski and Stevens sinkholes this fall too.
@J That sounds pretty chilly. Did you happen to find the area in this video? I had never heard of it although I have been to the falls several times. It's only a mile or so from the falls.
Becky Perkins I hope that Michigan legislators see fit to preserve this special area in our state. Too many times things are gone before we know, lost for all time like our great forest that covered Michigan in the 19th century.
Michigan Rocks There used to be an underground stream north of our piano on the property where the outdoor dinosaur museum fun park Used to be. It’s off of US 23 went up there a few times when I was 10 years old
dentician2000hotmail are you talking about Dinosaur Gardens in Ossineke? If so, it’s still there and still open. I think it’s the Devil’s River that runs through that property. I don’t remember it going underground in Dinosaur Gardens.
I wasn't expecting that. Crazy how it disappears then showing up again many times. What a beautiful area ! Love all the moss and tree roots. Thank you for sharing this!
Amazing find. Flowing creek, going underground, and resurfacing, stops and can hear the water underground, and coming out from rocks, and coming out under the road, awesome.
This is so cool, reminds me of stoney creek Park way back hidden in the woods where nobody ever goes. Only when the water level is high, there is flooded land and rivers flowing everywhere with little waterfalls everywhere. Bedrock and moss.... dang, this really looks just like it, brings me back, thanks for that memory.
Im a huge fan of creek watering and hiking. Looks like a great spot. Really cool how you can hear the river but not see it. Was fun to watch. Great video
I really enjoyed exploring here. Someone commented on this video asking if I had been to Devil's Falls in Minnesota. I looked it up and it's a waterfall where half of the falls appears to disappear. Maybe it's in your neck of the woods and you could go check it out.
@@MichiganRocks I was literally talking to my wife about that tonight! How funny! I was told about that about a month ago and its not too far from me (3ish hours) we will have to check it out.
How magical! There is a karst formation at the northern tip of Vancouver Island called the devils bathtub. It features a flooded sinkhole, with an underground river flowing through it, deep at the bottom. The water enters the hole and leaves the hole at different points. Somehow there is a fairly constant depth of water in the bathtub.
First of all thank you for the effort you put into these videos. I found you not long ago and I am currently (because of you lol) making a crazy 800 mile trip to Rockport quarry. I’ll be there tonight and tomorrow and maybe Saturday night too. If you’re around this is one of your “groupies” that would love to talk to you.
I thought so too. These are my favorite type of videos. For some reason they aren't as popular as videos where I slice up rocks or pick rocks on a beach. I don't understand that. Thanks for appreciating this one.
Wow! I have never seen anything like it , amazing place! So did it make u feel uneasy knowing that there was , basically , voids underneath ur feet !? Thank you for sharing!😃
Loved seeing this and hiking it last year. The moss and rocks are like a magical feeling when you are on them. When we were there the little creek that comes into the river was running then not dry.
I don't remember exactly. Usually I record the date in the details about the video, but I just looked and there's no date there. I can only tell you that it was in the summer a couple years ago.
@@MichiganRocks Hi Rob. I'm in the UK. I would have loved having that countryside on my doorstep as a kid, you would never have gotten me out of there :). Sean btw.
@@donk1822 Me too. I grew up on a lake and had woods to play in across the road. I was usually in one of the two places. We didn't have anything like this, but this is only about 25 miles from where I grew up.
Perfect spot to take a picnic lunch and just chill. Once again, you have it all to yourself ... How wonderful is that? Thank you for sharing it with us.
@@MichiganRocks You did a fine job. I lived in Iowa as a kid but that was as far north as I ever got in the east USA. I'm so happy to have found your site, I feel like they are mini vacations.
Michigan Rocks - directly East of Shoepac Lake - trails link up 4 Sinkholes. Just North of Shoepac Lake State Campgrounds. And North of Tomahawk Lake Hwy. In the Macinaw State Forest.
@@davemi00 I found the lake and the campground, but I can't see the sinkholes from the Google satellite view. Next time I'm in that area, I'll check it out. Thanks for the tip.
the mushroom is probably Amanita citrina, FYI. Thanks for this geology walk! I became a subscriber at the start of the pandemic and am almost done with the full back catalogue.
@@MichiganRocks Well if I'm right, it might not be poisonous. But now that I think about it, it might be a variety of A. muscaria (like A muscaria formosa) in which case, yes poisonous. In any event, eating any Amanita in the US is not recommended!
Also the water levels in it are way down, which is odd with the great lakes being up as high as they are. We usually see salmon and steelies this time of year there.
What does this area look like when the water is higher? Are some of the dry areas filled with water? I'm very intrigued by this place. Is it cool in the winter?
Some of the area you walked is under water. The main path you walked is usually dry but where the river is it's deeper. It is awesome to see the big fish in it. Winter time it is spectacular! It is on a groomed snowmobile trail and not plowed.
Northeastern Mi native here. Been to this spot many times. Quite a hidden treasure since most people don't know of it and they are more preoccupied with Ocqueoc falls.
We have something like that just on a grander scale here in Wyoming... it's called Sinks Canyon near Lander. The Popo Agie river dives underground then resurfaces a quarter mile downhill. Have you ever been out to Wyoming? I can rattle off a hundred good reasons to do it if you haven't.
Yes, our family drove to several national pars one summer. We went to Mt. Rushmore, Yellowstone, Grand Tetons, Glacier, and Banff. I’d love to go again. Last summer my wife and I went to Colorado to drive some Jeep trails.
I absolutely love vanished streams and rivers and looked for videos to add to a playlist on the topic and stumbled upon this. It is so good. I would love to see an area like this, but live halfway across the country and am not familiar with areas near me (and really not an all-terrain person either, hence watching videos). Did you know that the Danube does this same thing? As in *the* Danube? There's a German documentary on it that is VERY good, but lamentably, the subtitles even in German are absent or nonexistent, depending which channel you choose on YT. That means that even if you find a version with German auto-captions, the *English* captions are pretty wacky. Still, it is extremely interesting to see such a big riverbed just...dry during some parts of the year, and to watch the efforts of scientists to prove that it really does go underground. Thanks for the interesting content!
I did not know the Danube goes underground. That’s cool. The spot in my video is really interesting. There’s a small waterfall just down the road that gets all the attention but this is much cooler in my opinion.
Thats really cool and beautiful, although I'd be really on edge about falling thru into some abyss. That's how you end up on "I survived" or maybe not survived.
So blessed to know Allison and David from small group and church! I followed your page specifically because Allison told our group of your page and obviously I’ll support a friends dad’s page! How far is this from the actual falls? I LOVE that area! I’ve enjoyed rocks from as a kid. My husband is like “it’s just a rock” Maybe next time we head up to Alpena, we can meet you and maybe you can help me find some sweet rocks!
Sure, let me know if you're in town. The place in this video is very close to the falls. You'll need to drive from one to the other, but it's not far. Here's a Google Maps link for you. goo.gl/maps/vJpSUN9vNC7CS7Cf8 Park just before the bridge on the left side of the road. There is room for about three cars or so. Walk across the road on a path to the river. Follow the river to the right and you'll find it. I like this better than the falls.
@@MichiganRocks we camped up the Sunrise Coast for 2 weeks and visited the falls and biked the trail there. Didn't know about the lost river then - won't miss it next time.
Stunning! Now I get to walk in the woods again! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! (Would you be able to transfer some of that moss to your backyard successfully?) Are you gonna do a color tour??
I have some moss in my back yard. I tried to plant it between the stones of my path with mixed results. No plans for a color tour, but I might get out to some sinkholes or something with some color around.
It would be an awesome place to hike around. It reminds me of a hike in the Napa Valley on some private property I worked there for a couple weeks 6 or 7yrs ago. I had taken pic's of wild mushrooms and pretty much everything else too but it became a little dangerous when I found fresh mountain lion tracks and a an area where it had bedded down w/lots of old and new tracks
The DNR has confirmed that there are mountain lions in Michigan now, but I think they're pretty rare, so I don't worry about them. I worry more about ticks and mosquitos making me sick, but I don't spend a lot of time worrying about that either. Luckily, I spend most of my time on beaches where there aren't ticks or mosquitos most of the time.
Very interesting, never heard of that. As a kid we went to Ocqueoc Falls all the time. My memory of that...leeches! 😝😝😝 I really enjoy your videos and I am learning so much about the beautiful stones from the Great Lakes. . We have an attic full of untumbled stones and I am ready to sort through them to see what goodies I may have. The ones I don’t use will go back to Lake Huron if I am able to make another trip north. My health is not good so I spend a lot of my time on you tube. Thanks again.
May I suggest that you store your rocks in the basement rather than the attic. In the basement, they act as ballast so your house doesn't tip over. I haven't experienced leeches in the Ocqueoc, but I did go there once with my daughter to ad to her insect collection for biology class. We had a good time.
Michigan Rocks, I am going through them to see what I want to keep and then Ron is going to tumble them for me. I don’t know if we will make it up north this summer or not. I have a nasty lung disease and it is getting harder to travel. Sure miss it though. That’s why I love your videos.
@@patriciawilliams4314 I’m sorry you haven’t been feeling well. I just said a little prayer for you. Hopefully you’ll be able to come up and get out to some of your favorite spots.
Michigan Rocks Thank you for the prayer, they really help. We love the UP, we went to Tahquamenon Falls last summer. Spent most of our time in Harrisville.
Thanks for this. I'm planning on making a scene with an underground river in my fantasy story. I needed some inspiration to help visualize how it works.
@@MichiganRocks thank you. Even though my story is a fantasy my inspiration comes from the beauty of the real world. I think videos like this that show off how interesting something like a simple forest can be probably inspires lots of people in different ways.
Michigan Rocks - No that I know of. It was an active quarry when we last visited 5 yrs ago. They have several ‘lookouts’ you could drive to, then park and walk to them. The quarry is well below the surface of Lk Huron and only a narrow limestone wall separates the 2. Quite a view❕
@@davemi00 I drive by there quite often, but I have never really pulled over to look. I didn't realize that there was only a small amount of land separating it from Lake Huron.
I just looked that up as a possible trip for me, but it's a long way from where I live. I love stuff like that.
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Check out the Santa Fe River in Florida. Its "sink" sits inside O'Leno State Park, travels about three miles underground, and then has a "rise" resurfacing at River Rise Preserve State Park. I have kayaked the entire river from the head to its confluence with the Suwannee River. Hundred yards is pretty lame by comparison.
This is the Little Ocqueoc River. The main Ocqueoc River has a series of small waterfalls. I'll have a video of that for you in a few weeks too. It's the only waterfall in the lower peninsula of Michigan.
sloth boss I didn’t edit the audio in this video or in most of my videos. Most of the outdoor stuff is filmed with a GoPro. I bought an external mic with one of those fuzzy things on it to cut some of the wind noise. I also avoid filming on windy days the best I can. If there is some wind noise, sometimes I have to remove it in Final Cut Pro. There’s a control that says something like “remove background noise”. If you adjust it too far, it sounds weird, so I just sort of play with it until it sounds the best I can get. It’s not perfect though. I’m on my iPad right now, but if you want more details on FCP, let me know and I can look at the exact name of the thing I use. Mostly though, I just try to film on calm days and don’t adjust anything.
I just looked up the microphone I have for the GoPro. It's a Saramonic SR-XM1. It's an omnidirectional mic. I wanted that to capture the environmental sounds around me like the waves and birds. Another mic I considered was the Rode VideoMicro, but it's directional. That means that it's going to pick up mostly whatever is right in front of it. That would be good if you were in front of the camera talking right to the camera and you didn't want other surrounding noises that might be distracting. I am no expert in any of this, but I did some online research before buying equipment.
The river bank across the road from the parking spot is littered with fossils, we were there earlier in the year and the ticks were in full force. such a peaceful spot, I wouldn't sit under a few of those trees though lol
Great video! Nice seeing things close to home. I have heard, but haven't confirmed that despite the UP's abundance of water falls, Ocqueoc falls is the only one in the LP. Anyone know if that is true?
It's the only named waterfall. I know where there's another one in this area, but it's on private property. It's much taller, but is a much smaller stream. Here's a video: th-cam.com/video/nhzYFwfq34s/w-d-xo.html
This place would be a lot prettier. If it was cleaned up. So people can enjoy the beauty of nature. I have heard of underground rivers flowing. But this is the first one I have seen. Thank you for your wonderful video.
@@MichiganRocks We were living in Florida and after Katerina,snakes were everywhere,i hate them, I was bite by a viper whenI was a Child so we decide to move to France
I'm wondering if a person could collapse into a hole and disappear? The landscape seems fairy like but a little spooky with the roots of the trees and the creek disappearing and reappear ing. Mother nature is amazing.
The Ocqueoc before the falls is not as wild. That is where I've kayak. This is a section I've never seen before. Nor have I seen a river dip out of sight in that fashion. It was nice to see. Even the yellow mushroom was cute. Once again you've entertain the viewers in a professional style that surprises me. Only one question Rock Hound. Where are the stones?
@@MichiganRocks yeah I saw the dull gray shale. Guess ya got me there. But you know that your focus wasn't on stones. Just saying if your horizon can change your direction...and thats cool...have you ever heard of the Witchy Wolf of Omer Plains? It's on the Rifle River. OK so that's reaching a little. Truth be told I did like the under ground river. It looked like pretty tough terrain you had to forge through to show us that treat. Good job.
I didn't think that was quite right, so I just looked up billabong. A billabong is what we call an oxbow. I knew that at one time, but had forgotten. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billabong
I have no idea what’s underground. Mosquitos are the least of my bug problems. Bug spray usually works pretty well on them. Flies of various types can be a bigger problem. I don’t remember bugs the day I made this video.
we had a spring that ran underground coming down the bluff,it appeared 100 fett from are house,the creek ran about another500 ft then it stopped it went straight down into the ground,then ppl started complaing because it seeped into my nieghbors basement,had to tap it into the cities water system so it wouldnt do that.
@@MichiganRocks there is a cave 3/4s way up the bluff,im wondering if theres a underground lake,at dubuque,ia 40 miles from me,called crstal lake cave,this whole tri state region was a lead mining area back in mid 1800s,at platteville wi theres a mine shaft that runs underground of main street
Wow, that’s so awesome that it’s underground! Have you ever been to Devils Falls in Minnesota? That’d be the coolest thing ever to see that! I want to go there now! There’s an underground spring that flows through a cave near us (SE Wisconsin) that we get water from! There’s also another spring we get water from that looks very similar to this, it comes straight out of the Niagara Escarpment & I can hear the water flowing underneath the ground then it eventually comes out further away! ☺️
@@MichiganRocks There's a place were it sinks that is visible from the nearby highway. It is kind of disturbing as is doesn't re-surface anywhere nearby and land there is rolling pasture - no gullies or creek beds (wet or dry).
It is all the same river. The Little Ocqueoc flows into the Ocqueoc just down M68 a bit from where you turned to go into the road to the underground's. It is less than 10 miles from where I have lived all my life. A very magical spot. Hope you visited the falls too!
And that whole track of land is for sale. There has been talk of turning it into a conservatory. I sure hope so.....it deserves to be loved by the public.
The Little Ocqueoc is a tributary to the main Ocqueoc then, right? That's what I had assumed. I went to the falls the same day, which was two or three weeks ago and it was in the low seventies. The place was packed with people. I went back last Tuesday and made another video of the falls.
Are there any other good places to check out in the Rogers City/Onaway area? I'm in Alpena, so it's not too far to go. I have to get to Mystery Valley and the Bruski and Stevens sinkholes this fall too.
@J That sounds pretty chilly. Did you happen to find the area in this video? I had never heard of it although I have been to the falls several times. It's only a mile or so from the falls.
Becky Perkins
I hope that Michigan legislators see fit to preserve this special area in our state. Too many times things are gone before we know, lost for all time like our great forest that covered Michigan in the 19th century.
Michigan Rocks There used to be an underground stream north of our piano on the property where the outdoor dinosaur museum fun park Used to be. It’s off of US 23 went up there a few times when I was 10 years old
dentician2000hotmail are you talking about Dinosaur Gardens in Ossineke? If so, it’s still there and still open. I think it’s the Devil’s River that runs through that property. I don’t remember it going underground in Dinosaur Gardens.
I wasn't expecting that. Crazy how it disappears then showing up again many times. What a beautiful area ! Love all the moss and tree roots. Thank you for sharing this!
I was expecting it because I read a little about it before I went. It's still surprising even when you expect it somehow.
What an interesting walk with river above and below ground. Thank you.
I thought it was really interesting. This is only about an hour from my house, but I had never seen it or anything like it before.
Wow, what a beautiful place. It would be so cool to be able to see underground, the cave system, the underground river. Nice. Thanks for sharing!
Yeah, I didn't know about that place until a subscriber told me about it. It was a really cool place.
Amazing find. Flowing creek, going underground, and resurfacing, stops and can hear the water underground, and coming out from rocks, and coming out under the road, awesome.
This is so cool, reminds me of stoney creek Park way back hidden in the woods where nobody ever goes. Only when the water level is high, there is flooded land and rivers flowing everywhere with little waterfalls everywhere. Bedrock and moss.... dang, this really looks just like it, brings me back, thanks for that memory.
Sounds like a pretty place. That's right near Detroit?
Yeah, 45 mins north of Detroit. Not too many rocks there, but a peaceful hike.
Im a huge fan of creek watering and hiking. Looks like a great spot. Really cool how you can hear the river but not see it. Was fun to watch. Great video
This really is a great spot. I have a few short waterfall videos if you like that sort of thing.
It is so cool finding stuff like this!! Thanks so much for sharing it! Loving your videos BTW!
I really enjoyed exploring here. Someone commented on this video asking if I had been to Devil's Falls in Minnesota. I looked it up and it's a waterfall where half of the falls appears to disappear. Maybe it's in your neck of the woods and you could go check it out.
@@MichiganRocks I was literally talking to my wife about that tonight! How funny! I was told about that about a month ago and its not too far from me (3ish hours) we will have to check it out.
Make a video!
@@MichiganRocks I'll have to if I'm ever up that way, which we plan to!
My dad grew up in Ocqueoc. The locals call it "The Underground's" there are sink holes around there too.
Do you know where the sinkholes are? Sinkholes are fun.
Any actual caves in the area?
How magical! There is a karst formation at the northern tip of Vancouver Island called the devils bathtub. It features a flooded sinkhole, with an underground river flowing through it, deep at the bottom. The water enters the hole and leaves the hole at different points. Somehow there is a fairly constant depth of water in the bathtub.
Sounds cool. Kind of far away, though!
So is Michigan.
Lol!
First of all thank you for the effort you put into these videos.
I found you not long ago and I am currently (because of you lol) making a crazy 800 mile trip to Rockport quarry. I’ll be there tonight and tomorrow and maybe Saturday night too. If you’re around this is one of your “groupies” that would love to talk to you.
@Burninpowder Shoot me an email.
I sure will when I’m not driving later
So beautiful. Thank you for sharing.
I thought so too. These are my favorite type of videos. For some reason they aren't as popular as videos where I slice up rocks or pick rocks on a beach. I don't understand that. Thanks for appreciating this one.
Thanks for sharing, reminds me, we have a little stream in southern Indiana they call “lost river”. It pops up and then disappears several times.
Wow! I have never seen anything like it , amazing place! So did it make u feel uneasy knowing that there was , basically , voids underneath ur feet !? Thank you for sharing!😃
No, not really. It was sort of weird, but nothing looked like it had moved in long time.
Beautiful place . Love it ❤
Beautiful! Another gorgeous area I hope to meander around soon!
I thought that place was really cool. Better than the falls in my opinion.
That is so cool! I'm glad your Jeep was still above ground. Lol
Me too!
wow ! amazing area to explore !! so beautiful and peaceful....lucky you !! thanks for another great video !!
Lucky me is right! It was a lot of fun wandering around there.
That's so cool ! What an enchanted wood
The trickling sound of the stream is relaxing. Nice video.
I thought you were going to say you had to run to the bathroom in the middle of the video.
Michigan Rocks lol, that would be TMI.
Such a great way of o spend the day. I've gotten too timid to walk in the bush by myself, anymore, though!
Loved seeing this and hiking it last year. The moss and rocks are like a magical feeling when you are on them. When we were there the little creek that comes into the river was running then not dry.
I don't remember exactly. Usually I record the date in the details about the video, but I just looked and there's no date there. I can only tell you that it was in the summer a couple years ago.
What a beautiful place! Thanks for sharing!
An extremely pleasant walk with you Sir. Many thanks.
Thanks, and you don’t have to call me sir. Seems a bit formal for a guy tromping through the woods. Hi, I’m Rob!
@@MichiganRocks Hi Rob. I'm in the UK. I would have loved having that countryside on my doorstep as a kid, you would never have gotten me out of there :). Sean btw.
@@donk1822 Me too. I grew up on a lake and had woods to play in across the road. I was usually in one of the two places. We didn't have anything like this, but this is only about 25 miles from where I grew up.
This is amazing, I’m from Rogers City and did not know this, way cool and rugged, thanks
I didn't know about it until someone left me a message here. I'm in Alpena.
Ok, we’re outside of Gaylord, Johannesburg , will explore this
Man what a beautiful walk through a stunning piece of nature. All that moss!!! And trees! And rocks! Gorgeous 👌
Yeah, I really, really enjoyed this spot.
Thanks for the video. I've been searching for a video like this for quite a while.
You're welcome. Glad I could help.
Perfect spot to take a picnic lunch and just chill. Once again, you have it all to yourself ... How wonderful is that? Thank you for sharing it with us.
I had it to myself, but I shared it the best I could. I'm really thankful for the place I live.
@@MichiganRocks You did a fine job. I lived in Iowa as a kid but that was as far north as I ever got in the east USA. I'm so happy to have found your site, I feel like they are mini vacations.
Absolutely beautiful landscape!
Thanks a lot for making taping editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards luck and health.
Pretty cool! Such a beautiful area too. Thank for sharing Rob!✌️🤠
That place is really interesting. It's like a whole other world.
Oh my gosh Rob you continue to share the most interesting things about Michigan with us. Very cool!
I had never heard of this place until one of my subscribers told me about it. It's only about an hour from my house too.
That stream that goes underground is so bizarre! Very interesting! Kinda magical! Thank you for sharing that! 😊
I love that place. I don't know if I captured it in this video, but the whole area is really interesting.
Inspiring ! Great short video stories. Truly enjoy your work. Thank you !
Chuck Kowalski I’m glad you’re enjoying them. There’s a new one every Friday evening at seven.
THANK YOU FOR SHOWING THIS. AWESOME 😍
That's so cool.
Lovely mushroom! What a magical area. I enjoyed every second of this journey of yours. Thank you for sharing.
I have to give my wife credit for the mushroom. She pointed it out to me.
What a beautiful area!
That is awesome! Thank you for sharing with us. The mushroom looked perfectly grown.
My wife spotted the mushroom. I'm glad she pointed it out.
Very good eye.
Cool stuff! Thanks for sharing!
You're welcome!
That is super cool
How interesting! I have never come across a stream that went underground! The area is beautiful.
I had never heard of it either until one of the viewers here pointed this place out to me. It's really cool.
@@MichiganRocks What fun that you got to go see it and explore.
Beautiful area! Awesome river!
Love your videos!
Very cool place :)
Very neat. Visited the SinkHoles north of Onaway 20 ? years ago w the children.
Loaded w Blueberries in late Summer.
I'm not sure which sinkholes are north of Onaway. I have visited quite a few in the Alpena area. Can you give me directions or more information?
Michigan Rocks - directly East of Shoepac Lake - trails link up 4 Sinkholes. Just North of Shoepac Lake State Campgrounds. And North of Tomahawk Lake Hwy. In the Macinaw State Forest.
@@davemi00 I found the lake and the campground, but I can't see the sinkholes from the Google satellite view. Next time I'm in that area, I'll check it out. Thanks for the tip.
Fascinating
the mushroom is probably Amanita citrina, FYI. Thanks for this geology walk! I became a subscriber at the start of the pandemic and am almost done with the full back catalogue.
You've been busy! I assume that I'd die if I ate that one, right?
@@MichiganRocks Well if I'm right, it might not be poisonous. But now that I think about it, it might be a variety of A. muscaria (like A muscaria formosa) in which case, yes poisonous. In any event, eating any Amanita in the US is not recommended!
@@debivort I'll stick to morels.
Also the water levels in it are way down, which is odd with the great lakes being up as high as they are. We usually see salmon and steelies this time of year there.
What does this area look like when the water is higher? Are some of the dry areas filled with water? I'm very intrigued by this place. Is it cool in the winter?
Some of the area you walked is under water. The main path you walked is usually dry but where the river is it's deeper. It is awesome to see the big fish in it. Winter time it is spectacular! It is on a groomed snowmobile trail and not plowed.
Becky Perkins I might have to go ack at different times of the year. Thanks a lot for the information.
Northeastern Mi native here. Been to this spot many times. Quite a hidden treasure since most people don't know of it and they are more preoccupied with Ocqueoc falls.
I had been to the falls several iMessage, but never here. I thought this place was much more interesting.
Nice video, thanks for sharing. Hey someday you will have a cave to rock explore in. :) lol
That would be fun. Spelunking is a fun word. I'd like to be able to use in casual conversation more often.
We have something like that just on a grander scale here in Wyoming... it's called Sinks Canyon near Lander. The Popo Agie river dives underground then resurfaces a quarter mile downhill. Have you ever been out to Wyoming? I can rattle off a hundred good reasons to do it if you haven't.
Yes, our family drove to several national pars one summer. We went to Mt. Rushmore, Yellowstone,
Grand Tetons, Glacier, and Banff. I’d love to go again. Last summer my wife and I went to Colorado to drive some Jeep trails.
Very interesting! We’ll have to check that out when we are in the area.
I highly recommend it.
I absolutely love vanished streams and rivers and looked for videos to add to a playlist on the topic and stumbled upon this. It is so good. I would love to see an area like this, but live halfway across the country and am not familiar with areas near me (and really not an all-terrain person either, hence watching videos).
Did you know that the Danube does this same thing? As in *the* Danube? There's a German documentary on it that is VERY good, but lamentably, the subtitles even in German are absent or nonexistent, depending which channel you choose on YT. That means that even if you find a version with German auto-captions, the *English* captions are pretty wacky. Still, it is extremely interesting to see such a big riverbed just...dry during some parts of the year, and to watch the efforts of scientists to prove that it really does go underground.
Thanks for the interesting content!
I did not know the Danube goes underground. That’s cool. The spot in my video is really interesting. There’s a small waterfall just down the road that gets all the attention but this is much cooler in my opinion.
Thats really cool and beautiful, although I'd be really on edge about falling thru into some abyss. That's how you end up on "I survived" or maybe not survived.
Sometimes you just have to live on the edge.
We got our Michigan rocks shirts they are just perfect really nice 👍
Thanks for buying them! I'm glad you like them.
So blessed to know Allison and David from small group and church! I followed your page specifically because Allison told our group of your page and obviously I’ll support a friends dad’s page!
How far is this from the actual falls? I LOVE that area!
I’ve enjoyed rocks from as a kid. My husband is like “it’s just a rock”
Maybe next time we head up to Alpena, we can meet you and maybe you can help me find some sweet rocks!
Sure, let me know if you're in town.
The place in this video is very close to the falls. You'll need to drive from one to the other, but it's not far. Here's a Google Maps link for you. goo.gl/maps/vJpSUN9vNC7CS7Cf8
Park just before the bridge on the left side of the road. There is room for about three cars or so. Walk across the road on a path to the river. Follow the river to the right and you'll find it. I like this better than the falls.
I wonder if there are caves under there?
If there are, they are probably filled with water.
@@MichiganRocks It would be interesting to find out for sure, though, and maybe dangerous.
l love Maidenhair ferns. Definitely want to visit there. Thank you.
It's a really cool place. Much more interesting than Ocqueoc Falls just down the road.
@@MichiganRocks we camped up the Sunrise Coast for 2 weeks and visited the falls and biked the trail there. Didn't know about the lost river then - won't miss it next time.
I live 45 minutes away and didn't know about it until someone told me in a comment here on TH-cam.
Stunning! Now I get to walk in the woods again! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! (Would you be able to transfer some of that moss to your backyard successfully?) Are you gonna do a color tour??
I have some moss in my back yard. I tried to plant it between the stones of my path with mixed results.
No plans for a color tour, but I might get out to some sinkholes or something with some color around.
@@MichiganRocks cool!
It would be an awesome place to hike around. It reminds me of a hike in the Napa Valley on some private property I worked there for a couple weeks 6 or 7yrs ago. I had taken pic's of wild mushrooms and pretty much everything else too but it became a little dangerous when I found fresh mountain lion tracks and a an area where it had bedded down w/lots of old and new tracks
The DNR has confirmed that there are mountain lions in Michigan now, but I think they're pretty rare, so I don't worry about them. I worry more about ticks and mosquitos making me sick, but I don't spend a lot of time worrying about that either. Luckily, I spend most of my time on beaches where there aren't ticks or mosquitos most of the time.
Very interesting, never heard of that. As a kid we went to Ocqueoc Falls all the time. My memory of that...leeches! 😝😝😝 I really enjoy your videos and I am learning so much about the beautiful stones from the Great Lakes. . We have an attic full of untumbled stones and I am ready to sort through them to see what goodies I may have. The ones I don’t use will go back to Lake Huron if I am able to make another trip north. My health is not good so I spend a lot of my time on you tube. Thanks again.
May I suggest that you store your rocks in the basement rather than the attic. In the basement, they act as ballast so your house doesn't tip over.
I haven't experienced leeches in the Ocqueoc, but I did go there once with my daughter to ad to her insect collection for biology class. We had a good time.
Michigan Rocks, I am going through them to see what I want to keep and then Ron is going to tumble them for me. I don’t know if we will make it up north this summer or not. I have a nasty lung disease and it is getting harder to travel. Sure miss it though. That’s why I love your videos.
@@patriciawilliams4314 I’m sorry you haven’t been feeling well. I just said a little prayer for you. Hopefully you’ll be able to come up and get out to some of your favorite spots.
Michigan Rocks Thank you for the prayer, they really help. We love the UP, we went to Tahquamenon Falls last summer. Spent most of our time in Harrisville.
@@patriciawilliams4314 Tomorrow's video is rock hunting in Harrisville. We found a few.
Thanks for this. I'm planning on making a scene with an underground river in my fantasy story. I needed some inspiration to help visualize how it works.
Well that's a comment I didn't expect. Sometimes videos help people in ways that I didn't imagine. Good luck on your story!
@@MichiganRocks thank you. Even though my story is a fantasy my inspiration comes from the beauty of the real world. I think videos like this that show off how interesting something like a simple forest can be probably inspires lots of people in different ways.
Amazing! thank you for sharing. Do you know if the water runs in the dry stream bed in heavy rains or snow run off in the spring?
I have only been here a couple times, so I can't really say.
Thanks for answering all my recent comments. I so appreciate it. As you probably guessed I am binge watching your older videos.@@MichiganRocks
@@joang.cavanna2046 Yep, I figured that out.
Visit the Limestone Quarry near Rodgers City ?
Right on the edge of Lake Huron it’s amazing how close it is.
I have only driven past the quarry, never visited. Do they offer tours?
Michigan Rocks - No that I know of. It was an active quarry when we last visited 5 yrs ago. They have several ‘lookouts’ you could drive to, then park and walk to them. The quarry is well below the surface of Lk Huron and only a narrow limestone wall separates the 2. Quite a view❕
@@davemi00 I drive by there quite often, but I have never really pulled over to look. I didn't realize that there was only a small amount of land separating it from Lake Huron.
That's really cool
There is a similar thing on the Indian River at Warsaw caves in Ontario
I just looked that up as a possible trip for me, but it's a long way from where I live. I love stuff like that.
Check out the Santa Fe River in Florida. Its "sink" sits inside O'Leno State Park, travels about three miles underground, and then has a "rise" resurfacing at River Rise Preserve State Park. I have kayaked the entire river from the head to its confluence with the Suwannee River. Hundred yards is pretty lame by comparison.
Sorry, I had never seen anything like this so I thought it was pretty cool.
Did not expect the stream to go underground. I thought for sure it would lead to a waterfall.
This is the Little Ocqueoc River. The main Ocqueoc River has a series of small waterfalls. I'll have a video of that for you in a few weeks too. It's the only waterfall in the lower peninsula of Michigan.
@michigan rocks do you edit audio if you do how do you because I need help editing my audio I am having trouble
sloth boss I didn’t edit the audio in this video or in most of my videos. Most of the outdoor stuff is filmed with a GoPro. I bought an external mic with one of those fuzzy things on it to cut some of the wind noise. I also avoid filming on windy days the best I can. If there is some wind noise, sometimes I have to remove it in Final Cut Pro. There’s a control that says something like “remove background noise”. If you adjust it too far, it sounds weird, so I just sort of play with it until it sounds the best I can get. It’s not perfect though. I’m on my iPad right now, but if you want more details on FCP, let me know and I can look at the exact name of the thing I use. Mostly though, I just try to film on calm days and don’t adjust anything.
I just looked up the microphone I have for the GoPro. It's a Saramonic SR-XM1. It's an omnidirectional mic. I wanted that to capture the environmental sounds around me like the waves and birds. Another mic I considered was the Rode VideoMicro, but it's directional. That means that it's going to pick up mostly whatever is right in front of it. That would be good if you were in front of the camera talking right to the camera and you didn't want other surrounding noises that might be distracting. I am no expert in any of this, but I did some online research before buying equipment.
Thank you
The river bank across the road from the parking spot is littered with fossils, we were there earlier in the year and the ticks were in full force. such a peaceful spot, I wouldn't sit under a few of those trees though lol
I missed the fossils. I guess I was too intrigued with the river.
Great video! Nice seeing things close to home. I have heard, but haven't confirmed that despite the UP's abundance of water falls, Ocqueoc falls is the only one in the LP. Anyone know if that is true?
It's the only named waterfall. I know where there's another one in this area, but it's on private property. It's much taller, but is a much smaller stream. Here's a video: th-cam.com/video/nhzYFwfq34s/w-d-xo.html
Cool. 😎
Had one like this behind my house in scottsville ky.
I had never seen anything like this. I wonder how common it is.
This place would be a lot prettier. If it was cleaned up. So people can enjoy the beauty of nature. I have heard of underground rivers flowing. But this is the first one I have seen. Thank you for your wonderful video.
There are people who would like the trails in the Grand Canyon paved. I'm not one.
great landscape. dont think we have anything like that in calif
That's about 45 minutes from my house and I didn't know about it until one of my subscribers told me about it last summer.
It's beautiful , no snakes ?
I'm sure there are a few snakes in this area just like any other, but I didn't see any.
@@MichiganRocks We were living in Florida and after Katerina,snakes were everywhere,i hate them, I was bite by a viper whenI was a Child so we decide to move to France
I'm wondering if a person could collapse into a hole and disappear? The landscape seems fairy like but a little spooky with the roots of the trees and the creek disappearing and reappear ing. Mother nature is amazing.
If I suddenly stop posting videos, please come see if there's a fresh hole.
LOL 😃
I thought the same thing. Kind of creepy and scary.
I watched this before and I don’t remember when. Oh well, fun place.
Yes, very versatile.
The Ocqueoc before the falls is not as wild. That is where I've kayak. This is a section I've never seen before. Nor have I seen a river dip out of sight in that fashion. It was nice to see. Even the yellow mushroom was cute. Once again you've entertain the viewers in a professional style that surprises me. Only one question Rock Hound. Where are the stones?
You didn't see the stones? They were everywhere! Big too. Maybe you missed them because of all the moss.
@@MichiganRocks yeah I saw the dull gray shale. Guess ya got me there. But you know that your focus wasn't on stones. Just saying if your horizon can change your direction...and thats cool...have you ever heard of the Witchy Wolf of Omer Plains? It's on the Rifle River. OK so that's reaching a little.
Truth be told I did like the under ground river. It looked like pretty tough terrain you had to forge through to show us that treat. Good job.
I hadn’t heard of the witchy wolf, but I just looked it up. That’s a fun story, thanks for telling me about it.
I believe that is what the Australians call a billabong.
I didn't think that was quite right, so I just looked up billabong. A billabong is what we call an oxbow. I knew that at one time, but had forgotten. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billabong
Are there fish and mollusks and insects underground also? Frogs?
PS: I hope you have some badass mosquito repellant.
I have no idea what’s underground. Mosquitos are the least of my bug problems. Bug spray usually works pretty well on them. Flies of various types can be a bigger problem. I don’t remember bugs the day I made this video.
we had a spring that ran underground coming down the bluff,it appeared 100 fett from are house,the creek ran about another500 ft then it stopped it went straight down into the ground,then ppl started complaing because it seeped into my nieghbors basement,had to tap it into the cities water system so it wouldnt do that.
I loved seeing this, but I wouldn't want in anywhere near my house. I'm glad that they were able to fix the problem.
@@MichiganRocks there is a cave 3/4s way up the bluff,im wondering if theres a underground lake,at dubuque,ia 40 miles from me,called crstal lake cave,this whole tri state region was a lead mining area back in mid 1800s,at platteville wi theres a mine shaft that runs underground of main street
@@erickort1987 It sounds like a fun place to explore if it's safe to do so.
That looks like limestone. My guess is there's a shallow cavern system under there.
Yes, it is limestone, and I believe the shallow cavern collapsed into itself.
I wonder if that huge hill could be some sort of Indian mound. My imagination likes to run.
The hill by the Jeep? That was way too big to be an Indian mound.
6:58 um not sure but that looks similar to a man made bunker from the past
No, this is all natural. There are a lot of sinkholes in this area. It's all limestone bedrock here.
Wow, that’s so awesome that it’s underground! Have you ever been to Devils Falls in Minnesota? That’d be the coolest thing ever to see that! I want to go there now! There’s an underground spring that flows through a cave near us (SE Wisconsin) that we get water from! There’s also another spring we get water from that looks very similar to this, it comes straight out of the Niagara Escarpment & I can hear the water flowing underneath the ground then it eventually comes out further away! ☺️
I haven’t been to Devils Falls. I’ll have to look it up. I have a sister in Minnesota, maybe I’ll have to go visit her and check it out.
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That place looks like it was pulverized in the distant past.
I think that there was a cavern that collapsed.
river is flowing thru the path of least resistance ...
Yes, but it's unusual that the path of least resistance is underground.
@@MichiganRocks must be the space between rocks, mini cave of some sort. Beautifull find (=
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Future water fall
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Very cool. In southern Indiana, there's a similar feature - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_River_(Indiana) th-cam.com/video/7-ruH_ACArg/w-d-xo.html
Looks like that river has a lot more underground parts than this river. Looks like a cool place to visit.
@@MichiganRocks There's a place were it sinks that is visible from the nearby highway. It is kind of disturbing as is doesn't re-surface anywhere nearby and land there is rolling pasture - no gullies or creek beds (wet or dry).
My only words are PRIMARY WATER. We NEVER EVER will lack of water🙋♀️our earth makes it! Why have we been lied to🤷♀️😤
There's big cave underneath that
Totally agree