Two years ago, Ford dealerships had markups up to $10K for Mach-Es. Now, they're sitting on lots by the thousands. The greed chickens have come home to roost.
Everyone who is bitching about these cars has obviously never driven them. My Mach E GT is the nicest car I've ever owned. My previous car, a 2008 Mustang GT Premium, was costing me over 300 a month on gas. In the 2 months that I've had my Mach E, I've spent MAYBE 100 on charging. And I don't have a home charger setup either. Who cares that they called it a Mustang? The range is fine. I drive 60 miles a day and there are no problems. You think it's not fast? I blew the doors off a Challenger RT who kept trying to race me. Yes they are more expensive than a Tesla. For now. With all the competitors coming on the market, the pricing will change. ANd pretty soon we'll have access to the Tesla charging network. This is the future, my friends.
@@Philip__325 hahaha, that's funny. I see gas is now 4.29 a gallon in my area. It cost me $15 to charge my car and it's lasted all week. Oil is supposed to go up to $95 a barrel by the summer. So have fun paying $5 a gallon and crying about it.
Just bought one. Have had three gas mustangs including 2 GTs. This is a great car. Is it a “mustang”? Not a “mustang”? Who cares. Are the 1976 gen 2, 1980 or 1990 atrocities “mustangs”? Guys. It’s marketing. Get over it. They could have called this the “Optimus Prime Mach 2 Billion” and it would be still be what it is: the best performing EV SUV you can get.
I’ll tell you why. #1 too expensive #2 too short on range #3 never should have been called a mustang. #4 people are feeling like they are getting forced into EV’s pushing them to staying with ICE vehicles. #5 better or cheaper options on the EV market.
I was at Roseville Ford in CA last night and they had 50+ Mach E on the lot. They aren’t selling, no one really wants them. Mach E GT has a better interior than a Y performance, but the price tag just kills it.
1. Priced too high 2. No NACS yet 3. Dealer network with salesmen who know nothing about the product 4. Insane ADM stickers 5. Tesla offers more mature product with more features, range, etc.
So I went to a ford dealership to try and sell my mustang and I talked to a sells rep and he said everyone wanted them when there were shortages because people want what they can’t have. Also the people who got them including himself just wanted to see what it was like living with new technology. But after owning one he said it was very boring and had no character. That was why he sold his and the majority of the trade ins are from people complaining about a lack of character or dull experience
If driving a 2 door sport car then going to Mach-e you’re gonna loose sportiness for sure. But coming from another crossover to the Mach-e it’ll be much more fun….Mach-e or Prius? Mach-e or Tucson? Mach-e out characters both those.
Ford also is offering rebates of about $3,000 in some regions meaning you can buy a Select model for under $45,000 not including federal and state subsidies.
All you complainers but the next charger and Camaro are all electric and mustang fans still have the s650. Be happy we still have both and when forced to make the next mustang all electric, ford will have a leg up on ev development and hopefully iron out all the basic issues of ev production
They are not selling because nobody wants to be that guy with an SUV pretending to be a coupe muscle car. It's like Porsche would launch a new mini-van and slapping the 911 badge on it. Note that it's not so much that it's an EV, it's mostly people feel they are posers with a horse on a non-Mustang. I don't understand what the hell Ford marketing were smoking when they came up with this. One visit to one Mustang meet should have told them what they needed to know about who the target audience of the Mustang is.
I completely agree with this. Go to any enthusiast page and this is brought up all the time. Of course the people that want it keep glossing over this argument for the "you don't like it because it's an EV" argument. Or they keep trying to compare it to "insert your favorite manufacturer " building an suv as if it's a valid comparison.
If it drives well, and is comfy ride, not harsh like the Tesla, and has good fit and finish and a competitive price, I would consider buying it regardless of the name. I love the looks of the thing. And it definitely has similar looks to the Mustang. Would I have named it Mustang E Mach? no. but that name would not bother me a bit. I don't think anyone buying it is trying to ride the Mustang name plate, they simply want an EV with some of characteristics I listed above. With the prices dropping, I am definitely in market, I drive a shit ton of miles close in, not interstate. And no, I would not be taking the E Mach to Mustang meetups. But with Ford being able to utilize the Tesla chargers in the future, that would be huge.
EVs have almost reached their saturation point. Sales will be slowing from here on. I guarantee you that they will not double in sales from last year no matter what.
I’m on my second Tesla. The more I live with EVs the more I hate them. Currently trying to figure out how to get rid of it. Too many compromises with an EV, they feel too fragile, long distance trips are terrible, and phantom braking is ridiculously unsafe and there is no fix for it.
One thing about the Mach-e is that it’s not fragile. Long distance is a hassle, but that’s why I bought. Don’t know what phantom braking is but I’m yet to experience that. Having both EV and 2 other ICE vehicles I drive the EV every chance I get; when the Mrs. isn’t using it. I dread going to gas stations, having my own charger for the EV. Until you drive one, I’m telling you every day commute and errands are way better in the EV. There’s very few cars can touch you on the street. It handles pretty well, way better than my previous crossover. Im wondering if the Mach-e screwed these mustang owners wives because they hate them so much.
@@teamcaveman phantom braking is the tendency Teslas have to just slam on the brakes when using Cruise Control or Autopilot. Happens very frequently to me. People always reply to me saying saying “they fixed it with a software update”. I’m very diligent with the updates and I still have problems with it.
I disable auto emergency brakes on every vehicle we have. I almost was rear ended by a big ass truck one day when our mdx decided it didn't like how close I rode to someone. That feature should be outlawed😂
I’m a Ford guy but I wish they would have called this something different. Galaxie or Thunderbird would have been great choices. I’m not ready to make the jump to an electric. I would happily buy a PHEV with 80-100 miles of range and gas for the rest. My commute is 80 miles a day roundtrip and I could charge at home while having unlimited range for long trips via gas.
80 miles range is wishful thinking, unfortunately. You gotta jump into ev territory for that range and higher. The best that's out there is 50-60 miles at the most. And that's on vehicles that you have to pay a high premium for.
Maybe Utah just hasn’t had a bad winter yet. Having seen several times in my life people dumping perfectly good cars en mass for various reasons I can imagine a pull back on EV ownership.
They would of been fine calling it something other than mustang. No mustang fan wants that thing. If they would of used the same mustang body as the gas versions then it probably would of sold more. That crossover looking thing is just too ugly
@@DarrellC. Well pretty much. They Put a historical and cultural icon on a soulless electric soccer mom car... And for what? They could've made the exact same vehicle and not branded it as a Mustang.
These TH-camrs really suck you guys in…other then the Tesla the Ford Mach E is selling more EVs the the VW, Hyundai and Kia. Does the Escape have 480hp & 600lbs ft and do 0-60 in 3.8 seconds? F@#& No!!
I bought two of these recently, a base model to beat the shit out of and a GT. I wouldn't say that they aren't selling, I see them all over. I think the economy is in a downturn so the average consumer won't see value here, and/or they see the value but can't capture it due to life style. I actually would have three of these but as some also said they were charging 10k over as recently as May. Now I get it at 0% with incentive, no brainer.
They don't sell because they are too expensive, artificially limited in performance, and EVs are damned inconvenient. Home chargers are slow, super chargers are often broken or sabotaged, charging stations are few and far between, and the car isn't a Mustang. I like Ford, but I will never pay for one of these.
I'm not an EV fan in general but the 5 second power limitation in the Mach E makes it dead on arrival in my mind. It could be absolutely perfect in every other regard but that's a deal breaker for me. Kia or Tesla don't limit performance like this so either of them would be better options in my mind.
@@mustangsandstuff4245 the worst part is that without the power limitation it likely would be very competitive with the other EVs and “worthy” of the name plate (If you’re not a purist of course)
Don't forget about the well known HVJB issue. People who do proper research before buying a car are finding out about this problem. I trusted that Ford fixed the issue with MMEs made after late May 2022. Guess what, it's not fixed. My HVJB died last month and spent 9 days at the dealer. Saw someone online who said they were waiting on HVJB #3. I'd like to send my MME GT down the road and get into something else...but the market for the MME has tanked so I'm stuck with it for awhile. Edit: and yes, the 5 second limiter stinks!
@@Mantooth2851the HVJB is the only reason I didn’t get a GT when I got rid of my Select with the tech package. I did get a 23 Premium it’s my 3rd MME and absolutely zero issues. Ford gave me $40k on my select trade. But I agree the market has tanked.
Are you aware of why the drop off. EV batteries have a life expectancy. Ford put this safeguard in their 12 second quarter mile Mach E GT to maintain 70% Battery life for the owner of the car and the future owner if the Mach E is a lease return or traded in. Using Hyundai and Kia are poor examples of building solid engines. It appears Hyundai currently has major issues with many of his Ice engines with class action lawsuits. Hyundai owners are frustrated after engines randomly stop working. What's their future for their EVs.
Personally I’m waiting for the new PHEV I’m hoping for a good option from Ford, or Honda in the next year. Then after that I wanna get into an EV closer to 2030
You are about the only person who rates a Ford above a Tesla. The ACTAUAL (fact over fiction) sales of a vehicle vs just talking points where the Tesla destroys Ford EV's in EVERY SINGLE METRICS.... If what you were saying was even REMOTELY true, then the opposite would be true. Only a fool would spend $70K after taxes on a Ford over a Tesla. Now that is a fact based on real world sales of people actually buying cars. A ridiculous huge vertical screen with a giant knob at the bottom for volume. ALL unnecessary buttons and knobs of the the past are still there on this car. It's dated to say the least. ALSO, may I add that after you initially set up your driver profile in a Tesla, you seldom if ever need to go back into the settings on the screen to change anything... In essence the knobs and buttons are pointless. Off topic but it reminds me of the paddle shifters Lexus threw on their first EV SUV. The shifters change the amount of regenerative braking.... That makes ZERO sense to have physical paddles for a feature you set ONCE and NEVER touch again.... You also failed to mention that in a Tesla you can just speak to the car to turn on the wipers to the level you want them too, or set the temperature by simply saying it. No need to ever touch a knob or dial, nothing is more convenient than saying what you want and the car doing it. How often does one change say a temperature? Think about it.... If you set it for 66 degrees in the summer, the vehicle will ALWAYS be at that temperature, no different than a home's A/C. You don't see people running to their Central AC at home and messing with the temperature all the time. You set it and forget it.... Times change, holding on to the past to appease those that are still caught up in the past at the expense of the current generation that have grown up with "screens" without buttons and knobs in their hands from phones to tablets. Shows how old and non-contemporary Ford truly is. Kodak and Xerox also held on to the past.... Now they are a shell of the powerhouse they once were. They refused to understand the shift in user preference and the 'comfort' of the buying public with the 'new' technology (digital photography).... The 'new' tech the upper echelon felt was too radical and too complicated... History proved otherwise. I get it, you want to be invited back by this dealership to do another review so obviously you have to narrate carefully. This was a half baked "review" if you can even call it that. This vehicle is NOT selling just like the F-150 Lightning because no one is buying the 'marketing' that it's better than a Tesla.... F150 Lightning supposedly had 200K pre-orders. They only sold I believe 50K, however if you are to go to the Ford site and order one today you can get yours in less than 3 months. So the question remains, what happened to all those supposed pre-orders? How is it possible that your delivery date is less than three months if you order today when there are still ALLEGEDLY 150K pre-orders pending??? Maybe do a review on Ford's big LIE.... Redeem yourself and channel for a sloppy hit piece you just did. I was expecting much more detail and substance, such as, how inadequate the range is vs the size of the battery (NOT EFFICENT ~ larger battery than a Tesla Model Y to go LESS RANGE ~ hence costs more to charge to go less distance), also how the trunk is way smaller than the Model Y that you tried to pass it off as (functional) and also 0-60 speed still pales in comparison to a Model Y Performance. As aforementioned in every single metric the Ford fails against a Tesla from price, efficiency to performance. Even the Ford CEO is delusional. He just recently stated that the F150 Lightning is for people who use trucks for their work while the Tesla Cybertruck is for people who park outside their office building. LOGCIALLY think about it.... A Cybertruck is made of stainless steel NOT aluminum. A Cybertruck is impervious to dents and scratches, it has a FULL 6.5 ft bed vs the Lightning with it's 5 ft bed. On a construction site would I want a dainty truck that I have to worry about rusting, denting or being scratched or a truly rugged stainless steel vehicle that can take abuse..... Anyone with common sense would dissect what Jim Farley said and immediately come to a realization that he was actually 'reversing' his trucks capability for that of the Cybertruck. His pretty pained truck is meant for the office executive, nicely parked in a garage where there's no chance of having it's pretty paint scratched or it's side panel dented by someone opening their door into it.
You are right based on price Tesla is better have test drove a Mach-E it is comfortable and easy to get use to similar to an ICE vehicle on the inside.
Dealers are still trying to sell a Mustang. The Mach-E is a solid EV but a boring Mustang. Once dealers realize that EV buyers are not mesmerized by the Mustang name and start selling the Mach-E as the solid EV it is, sales will increase again.
@@TheDiameter Seems like you do, Cupcake. Did an EV driver steal your fat wife or your lunch money? I guess you're jealous because you can't get a charger installed down there in the trailer park. LOL!
I love the car but it's too expensive. They were priced for 2020 supply challenges and federal tax incentives, neither of which are a thing in 2024. It's a solid car but priced for enthusiasts, especially when you consider the rapid depreciation and high insurance costs.
From what I've heard, it's the 220 mile range ones that sit on the lot. The longer range models move faster. And Ford has sold about 9,000 the last two months in America.
First these should not have been called Mustang. Like GM little cross over should not have been called Blazer. Second the srating price should be around 30k for the base model. Ford does not have the charging network of Tesla. They are not cool like Tesla. The technology is inferior and so on. I know they wanna compete and they are already selling these at loss. But for a consumer it is just a BAD deal.
I am glad these things are not selling because if they were then ford would see the success of this car and might discontinue the actual mustang and just sell the stupid mustang mach e
ICE Mustang owners and E Mach are not the same buyers, or at least, they are not looking for the same thing in their purchases. I have seen many comments from drivers that own both, and they use them for totally different purposes.
Saying everyone who wants an EV already has one as an excuse for MME poor sales is not true. If that were true why is Tesla selling so many cars and manage to produce at full factory capacity?
They are not selling because Tesla's are just profoundly better in every way! The people who want buttons ALL OVER THE PLACE IN A CAR are the same that are upset their smartphone does not have a rotory dial on it. With Tesla you literally set the screen and forget about it. It does everything for you.
@@akennedystocks fit and finish. To some people the looks. People who used to regular cars and not Tesla have easier time crossing over to the Mach-e. TH-camrs talk about performance this and that, but in every day driving some think the Mach is more user friendly. For some reason Tesla people make excuses for Tesla’s problems, but look for anything to put the Mach-e down. Most Tesla owners have only owned teslas or it’s the first expensive vehicle they’ve owned. I don’t hate Tesla, but I’m not spending $60k on a vehicle hoping I don’t get a bad one, and I’ve seen really bad ones. So you’re biased in saying in every way…I agree there are many. But I have no problems with my wife’s Mach e GT, and I have a GT500 and have had many other cars before that…from 1965 2+2 mustangs to fox body cobra to German vehicles to Japanese vehicles and now 2 mustangs. Please stop riding the Tesla high horse and stop thinking the same things you like about Tesla are the same things everyone values in a vehicle. Why would you even troll a Mach e video…just to rant about teslas? This video shouldn’t even concern you but you seem to want to push your Tesla values on people who could care less about teslas
They arent selling because they are a complete affront to the nameplate. They shouldnt exist. I am personally insulted every time I see one. When driving my GT350 I ALWAYS pipe the crap out of them when I pass them. It shouldnt exist and the people who buy them are the real problem
awe, sounds like someone has had their feelings hurt, and had to come over to an E Mach video for some affirmation. Show us on the doll where the bad E Mach hurt you!
That thing is a complete embarrassment to the mustang local Ford dealership where I live has hard time selling those things has some that were traded back in for real cars
Two years ago, Ford dealerships had markups up to $10K for Mach-Es. Now, they're sitting on lots by the thousands. The greed chickens have come home to roost.
The funny thing is, this is EXACTLY what happened with the focus rs. You'd think they'd have learned
Everyone who is bitching about these cars has obviously never driven them. My Mach E GT is the nicest car I've ever owned. My previous car, a 2008 Mustang GT Premium, was costing me over 300 a month on gas. In the 2 months that I've had my Mach E, I've spent MAYBE 100 on charging. And I don't have a home charger setup either. Who cares that they called it a Mustang? The range is fine. I drive 60 miles a day and there are no problems. You think it's not fast? I blew the doors off a Challenger RT who kept trying to race me. Yes they are more expensive than a Tesla. For now. With all the competitors coming on the market, the pricing will change. ANd pretty soon we'll have access to the Tesla charging network. This is the future, my friends.
Agree with you 100%. Drive a Tesla then the Mach e. Mach e is built so much better.
@@Philip__325 hahaha, that's funny. I see gas is now 4.29 a gallon in my area. It cost me $15 to charge my car and it's lasted all week.
Oil is supposed to go up to $95 a barrel by the summer. So have fun paying $5 a gallon and crying about it.
Does the power limitation affect you at all? I know you can’t drive it too hard or it’ll limit power output.
@@Fishburne-_- not really. I drive it like a normal car and it's fine. It's not like I'm hotrodding it constantly.
They are faster off the line but isn’t the top speed limited to 120mph
Just bought one. Have had three gas mustangs including 2 GTs. This is a great car. Is it a “mustang”? Not a “mustang”? Who cares. Are the 1976 gen 2, 1980 or 1990 atrocities “mustangs”? Guys. It’s marketing. Get over it. They could have called this the “Optimus Prime Mach 2 Billion” and it would be still be what it is: the best performing EV SUV you can get.
Perfectly stated
I’ll tell you why.
#1 too expensive
#2 too short on range
#3 never should have been called a mustang.
#4 people are feeling like they are getting forced into EV’s pushing them to staying with ICE vehicles.
#5 better or cheaper options on the EV market.
They aren't selling because they are too expensive. That vehicle shouldn't be more than 40k.
I negotiated this one 38 k
I was at Roseville Ford in CA last night and they had 50+ Mach E on the lot. They aren’t selling, no one really wants them. Mach E GT has a better interior than a Y performance, but the price tag just kills it.
*Future Ford
I bought two.
My neighbor got one after me.
Who's this nobody you talking about?
The price tag is fine at 0% lmao.
@@michealcthompsonjr congrats on getting ripped off 🤣 I should have clarified. No *sane* people want these.
@@PlatinumPeasant sigh. Stop being an arrogant ill informed prick
Great daily driver. 38k sale price 43750 Otd. How it is rip off.
1. Priced too high 2. No NACS yet 3. Dealer network with salesmen who know nothing about the product 4. Insane ADM stickers 5. Tesla offers more mature product with more features, range, etc.
you mention all the reason I see. and please add they want to sell the car even 2023 at 2025 prices
It's made in Mexico!
So I went to a ford dealership to try and sell my mustang and I talked to a sells rep and he said everyone wanted them when there were shortages because people want what they can’t have. Also the people who got them including himself just wanted to see what it was like living with new technology. But after owning one he said it was very boring and had no character. That was why he sold his and the majority of the trade ins are from people complaining about a lack of character or dull experience
If driving a 2 door sport car then going to Mach-e you’re gonna loose sportiness for sure. But coming from another crossover to the Mach-e it’ll be much more fun….Mach-e or Prius? Mach-e or Tucson? Mach-e out characters both those.
range anxiety
Ford also is offering rebates of about $3,000 in some regions meaning you can buy a Select model for under $45,000 not including federal and state subsidies.
Not the GT
Desperation 🤡
All you complainers but the next charger and Camaro are all electric and mustang fans still have the s650. Be happy we still have both and when forced to make the next mustang all electric, ford will have a leg up on ev development and hopefully iron out all the basic issues of ev production
They are not selling because nobody wants to be that guy with an SUV pretending to be a coupe muscle car. It's like Porsche would launch a new mini-van and slapping the 911 badge on it. Note that it's not so much that it's an EV, it's mostly people feel they are posers with a horse on a non-Mustang. I don't understand what the hell Ford marketing were smoking when they came up with this. One visit to one Mustang meet should have told them what they needed to know about who the target audience of the Mustang is.
I completely agree with this. Go to any enthusiast page and this is brought up all the time. Of course the people that want it keep glossing over this argument for the "you don't like it because it's an EV" argument. Or they keep trying to compare it to "insert your favorite manufacturer " building an suv as if it's a valid comparison.
Or we have both and appreciate each vehicle for what they are
If it drives well, and is comfy ride, not harsh like the Tesla, and has good fit and finish and a competitive price, I would consider buying it regardless of the name. I love the looks of the thing. And it definitely has similar looks to the Mustang. Would I have named it Mustang E Mach? no. but that name would not bother me a bit. I don't think anyone buying it is trying to ride the Mustang name plate, they simply want an EV with some of characteristics I listed above. With the prices dropping, I am definitely in market, I drive a shit ton of miles close in, not interstate. And no, I would not be taking the E Mach to Mustang meetups. But with Ford being able to utilize the Tesla chargers in the future, that would be huge.
This Mustang Mach e Competitors Like a Tesla Model Y, Kia EV6, Hyundai Ioniq 5, BMW ix3, Audi E Tron Sportback, Jaguar I Pace, Mercedes EQC & More
Why would u buy this when a model Y is cheaper. Way better made. I shake my head a people when I see them driving a mach -e.
Price and not eligible for the full $7,500 tax incentive. While Tesla Model Y is less expensive and eligible for the full tax credit.
❤❤❤ my cyber orange Mach e. It's so much fun to drive but it's the safety enhancements that really sold me.
The mach e sucks
takes one to know one.
(I'm saying you suck.)@@akmba1790
EVs have almost reached their saturation point. Sales will be slowing from here on. I guarantee you that they will not double in sales from last year no matter what.
Why they not selling cause of prices went to high that's why ford discounting their gt e mach ford
Putting Pony badging on it doesn’t make it a Mustang.
Mustang Lite is what I call
Mine
I’m on my second Tesla. The more I live with EVs the more I hate them. Currently trying to figure out how to get rid of it. Too many compromises with an EV, they feel too fragile, long distance trips are terrible, and phantom braking is ridiculously unsafe and there is no fix for it.
One thing about the Mach-e is that it’s not fragile. Long distance is a hassle, but that’s why I bought. Don’t know what phantom braking is but I’m yet to experience that. Having both EV and 2 other ICE vehicles I drive the EV every chance I get; when the Mrs. isn’t using it. I dread going to gas stations, having my own charger for the EV. Until you drive one, I’m telling you every day commute and errands are way better in the EV. There’s very few cars can touch you on the street. It handles pretty well, way better than my previous crossover. Im wondering if the Mach-e screwed these mustang owners wives because they hate them so much.
@@teamcaveman phantom braking is the tendency Teslas have to just slam on the brakes when using Cruise Control or Autopilot. Happens very frequently to me. People always reply to me saying saying “they fixed it with a software update”. I’m very diligent with the updates and I still have problems with it.
I disable auto emergency brakes on every vehicle we have. I almost was rear ended by a big ass truck one day when our mdx decided it didn't like how close I rode to someone. That feature should be outlawed😂
That's a TESLA problem, not EV.
I have two Mach-E and one ETron, your issue is that Tesla is a marketing company, not an automotive company.
All they had to do was call it a Taurus and leave the Mustang name alone.
Or a Stallion. But, it definitely looks like a Mustang given the styling. I don't know why anyone cares what it's called.
I’m a Ford guy but I wish they would have called this something different. Galaxie or Thunderbird would have been great choices. I’m not ready to make the jump to an electric. I would happily buy a PHEV with 80-100 miles of range and gas for the rest. My commute is 80 miles a day roundtrip and I could charge at home while having unlimited range for long trips via gas.
Falcon Sprint GT.
80 miles range is wishful thinking, unfortunately. You gotta jump into ev territory for that range and higher. The best that's out there is 50-60 miles at the most. And that's on vehicles that you have to pay a high premium for.
Ford guy? I buy the best not a brand....not smart....
ZERO 0 desire for a AV Anxiety Vehicles
@@zoobrizz That is why there is Tesla's!
66,000 🤯
Love this car but I’m scared to leave Tesla’s charging network. Any talks of charging networks improving outside of Tesla?
Ford has joined the Tesla network, so no need to leave it.
@@lenm2857 they down talk Tesla without their own infrastructure lol
I'd probably still buy a Y performance for 10k less and not have to hassle with a dealer.
True
They're priced way too high for what they are.
Maybe Utah just hasn’t had a bad winter yet. Having seen several times in my life people dumping perfectly good cars en mass for various reasons I can imagine a pull back on EV ownership.
This last winter was horrible
It’s a great car to drive. Wish the price tag goes lower
Hey Ben did Ford make a deal with Tesla to use their chargers?
They did
They did do it.@@vannpatrickjr1353
They would of been fine calling it something other than mustang. No mustang fan wants that thing. If they would of used the same mustang body as the gas versions then it probably would of sold more. That crossover looking thing is just too ugly
"Why are these not selling?" Because its an electric 4 door Ford escape with a Mustang badge on it just because the Mustang is well known.
I rode in a Mach e today for the first time and it was super nice. Definitely not and escape, but yeah. They should have named it something else.
Man you guys just can’t seem to get over the damn Mustang badge. Like someone personally insulted you.
@@DarrellC. Well pretty much. They Put a historical and cultural icon on a soulless electric soccer mom car... And for what? They could've made the exact same vehicle and not branded it as a Mustang.
These TH-camrs really suck you guys in…other then the Tesla the Ford Mach E is selling more EVs the the VW, Hyundai and Kia. Does the Escape have 480hp & 600lbs ft and do 0-60 in 3.8 seconds? F@#& No!!
@@josephg41 yeah I guess. It was a marketing ploy that actually worked though.
I would think the price is the main issue. Really all cars are still so inflated
The one I want is the gt has the upgraded performance bronze appearance package panoramic sunroof comfort package loaded and they are 60k
The depreciation on these EV's are very high, more so than ICE vehicles.
I bought two of these recently, a base model to beat the shit out of and a GT. I wouldn't say that they aren't selling, I see them all over. I think the economy is in a downturn so the average consumer won't see value here, and/or they see the value but can't capture it due to life style.
I actually would have three of these but as some also said they were charging 10k over as recently as May. Now I get it at 0% with incentive, no brainer.
Never plan on buying an EV
Depending on where you live, you won’t have a choice
They don't sell because they are too expensive, artificially limited in performance, and EVs are damned inconvenient. Home chargers are slow, super chargers are often broken or sabotaged, charging stations are few and far between, and the car isn't a Mustang. I like Ford, but I will never pay for one of these.
I'm not an EV fan in general but the 5 second power limitation in the Mach E makes it dead on arrival in my mind. It could be absolutely perfect in every other regard but that's a deal breaker for me. Kia or Tesla don't limit performance like this so either of them would be better options in my mind.
100% agree. Just not fast enough for an EV named Mustang.
@@mustangsandstuff4245 the worst part is that without the power limitation it likely would be very competitive with the other EVs and “worthy” of the name plate (If you’re not a purist of course)
Don't forget about the well known HVJB issue. People who do proper research before buying a car are finding out about this problem. I trusted that Ford fixed the issue with MMEs made after late May 2022. Guess what, it's not fixed. My HVJB died last month and spent 9 days at the dealer. Saw someone online who said they were waiting on HVJB #3.
I'd like to send my MME GT down the road and get into something else...but the market for the MME has tanked so I'm stuck with it for awhile.
Edit: and yes, the 5 second limiter stinks!
@@Mantooth2851the HVJB is the only reason I didn’t get a GT when I got rid of my Select with the tech package. I did get a 23 Premium it’s my 3rd MME and absolutely zero issues. Ford gave me $40k on my select trade.
But I agree the market has tanked.
Are you aware of why the drop off. EV batteries have a life expectancy. Ford put this safeguard in their 12 second quarter mile Mach E GT to maintain 70% Battery life for the owner of the car and the future owner if the Mach E is a lease return or traded in. Using Hyundai and Kia are poor examples of building solid engines. It appears Hyundai currently has major issues with many of his Ice engines with class action lawsuits. Hyundai owners are frustrated after engines randomly stop working. What's their future for their EVs.
Personally I’m waiting for the new PHEV I’m hoping for a good option from Ford, or Honda in the next year. Then after that I wanna get into an EV closer to 2030
This is NOT a Mustang. Electric junkmobile
The v8 mustang is junk. Ford as as a whole is junk.
You are about the only person who rates a Ford above a Tesla. The ACTAUAL (fact over fiction) sales of a vehicle vs just talking points where the Tesla destroys Ford EV's in EVERY SINGLE METRICS....
If what you were saying was even REMOTELY true, then the opposite would be true. Only a fool would spend $70K after taxes on a Ford over a Tesla. Now that is a fact based on real world sales of people actually buying cars. A ridiculous huge vertical screen with a giant knob at the bottom for volume. ALL unnecessary buttons and knobs of the the past are still there on this car. It's dated to say the least.
ALSO, may I add that after you initially set up your driver profile in a Tesla, you seldom if ever need to go back into the settings on the screen to change anything... In essence the knobs and buttons are pointless. Off topic but it reminds me of the paddle shifters Lexus threw on their first EV SUV. The shifters change the amount of regenerative braking.... That makes ZERO sense to have physical paddles for a feature you set ONCE and NEVER touch again.... You also failed to mention that in a Tesla you can just speak to the car to turn on the wipers to the level you want them too, or set the temperature by simply saying it. No need to ever touch a knob or dial, nothing is more convenient than saying what you want and the car doing it.
How often does one change say a temperature? Think about it.... If you set it for 66 degrees in the summer, the vehicle will ALWAYS be at that temperature, no different than a home's A/C. You don't see people running to their Central AC at home and messing with the temperature all the time. You set it and forget it.... Times change, holding on to the past to appease those that are still caught up in the past at the expense of the current generation that have grown up with "screens" without buttons and knobs in their hands from phones to tablets. Shows how old and non-contemporary Ford truly is. Kodak and Xerox also held on to the past.... Now they are a shell of the powerhouse they once were. They refused to understand the shift in user preference and the 'comfort' of the buying public with the 'new' technology (digital photography).... The 'new' tech the upper echelon felt was too radical and too complicated... History proved otherwise.
I get it, you want to be invited back by this dealership to do another review so obviously you have to narrate carefully. This was a half baked "review" if you can even call it that. This vehicle is NOT selling just like the F-150 Lightning because no one is buying the 'marketing' that it's better than a Tesla.... F150 Lightning supposedly had 200K pre-orders. They only sold I believe 50K, however if you are to go to the Ford site and order one today you can get yours in less than 3 months. So the question remains, what happened to all those supposed pre-orders? How is it possible that your delivery date is less than three months if you order today when there are still ALLEGEDLY 150K pre-orders pending??? Maybe do a review on Ford's big LIE.... Redeem yourself and channel for a sloppy hit piece you just did. I was expecting much more detail and substance, such as, how inadequate the range is vs the size of the battery (NOT EFFICENT ~ larger battery than a Tesla Model Y to go LESS RANGE ~ hence costs more to charge to go less distance), also how the trunk is way smaller than the Model Y that you tried to pass it off as (functional) and also 0-60 speed still pales in comparison to a Model Y Performance. As aforementioned in every single metric the Ford fails against a Tesla from price, efficiency to performance.
Even the Ford CEO is delusional. He just recently stated that the F150 Lightning is for people who use trucks for their work while the Tesla Cybertruck is for people who park outside their office building. LOGCIALLY think about it.... A Cybertruck is made of stainless steel NOT aluminum. A Cybertruck is impervious to dents and scratches, it has a FULL 6.5 ft bed vs the Lightning with it's 5 ft bed. On a construction site would I want a dainty truck that I have to worry about rusting, denting or being scratched or a truly rugged stainless steel vehicle that can take abuse..... Anyone with common sense would dissect what Jim Farley said and immediately come to a realization that he was actually 'reversing' his trucks capability for that of the Cybertruck. His pretty pained truck is meant for the office executive, nicely parked in a garage where there's no chance of having it's pretty paint scratched or it's side panel dented by someone opening their door into it.
You are right based on price Tesla is better have test drove a Mach-E it is comfortable and easy to get use to similar to an ICE vehicle on the inside.
Dealers are still trying to sell a Mustang. The Mach-E is a solid EV but a boring Mustang. Once dealers realize that EV buyers are not mesmerized by the Mustang name and start selling the Mach-E as the solid EV it is, sales will increase again.
I would never buy one
Nobody cares.
@@evvirtuosonobody cares that you would waste your money on one either
@@TheDiameter Seems like you do, Cupcake. Did an EV driver steal your fat wife or your lunch money? I guess you're jealous because you can't get a charger installed down there in the trailer park. LOL!
@@evvirtuosoclearly Ben does or he would not have asked
Maybe because of the style
I love the car but it's too expensive. They were priced for 2020 supply challenges and federal tax incentives, neither of which are a thing in 2024. It's a solid car but priced for enthusiasts, especially when you consider the rapid depreciation and high insurance costs.
They aren't selling because they are insanely overpriced and do not provide any cost savings until you drive 150k miles.
Expensive, Glorified Golf Carts...
I’d buy one if they were 10k cheaper where they should be
From what I've heard, it's the 220 mile range ones that sit on the lot. The longer range models move faster. And Ford has sold about 9,000 the last two months in America.
Ford should follow boeing and make the extended range (ER) the new standard
love this suv
❤Thank you for sharing this God bless you
Just buy a slightly used one they are like 30-40% cheaper than sticker. Esp the gt
66K? Range. Not a Mustang. An EV Escape. No thank you.
I like my Escape. Half the cost. Much better range. Not as quick, but not worried about that.
They’re not selling because they’re not mustangs. Who did ford think they were appealing to. Should have just called it a Mach e with no pony emblem.
Like your reviews BUT would like to see you give an opinion on the vehicle ie good bad etc - " I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU TO COMMENT " bit lame
Why does this announcer have to speak so fast?
I'm buying a 200k raptor after watching this
Because they’re junk.
I like the taillights for sure.
My mom has this car in gt lol
Sucker
ZERO 0 desire for a AV Anxiety Vehicles
Not selling because 1. high prices and high interest rates.
Insane Mustang Ben !! ❤❤
Simple for me. It's too slow for an EV. I wouldn't mind one if it was faster.
So you were asking not telling why they are not able to sell...😂
Why is Pierre Polièvre doing Ford EV reviews?
First these should not have been called Mustang. Like GM little cross over should not have been called Blazer. Second the srating price should be around 30k for the base model. Ford does not have the charging network of Tesla. They are not cool like Tesla. The technology is inferior and so on. I know they wanna compete and they are already selling these at loss. But for a consumer it is just a BAD deal.
It’s not a Mustang for one. It’s made in Mexico with a Chinese battery. Who wants this crap?
It's looks like every other kia and hyundai and a rav on a monday😂 it cost 60k, like do the know how hard it is too come across 100 bucks.
I'll be 50 this year, I will never drive an electric car. Know how to work on an ICE Car not an electric vehicle.
Mostly because the idiots called it a mustang. It is a shame. My 5.0 will not clam it as family
Ford had a winner with mustang but now they have electric mustang a looser. Older Gas mustangs will increase in value
I am glad these things are not selling because if they were then ford would see the success of this car and might discontinue the actual mustang and just sell the stupid mustang mach e
ICE Mustang owners and E Mach are not the same buyers, or at least, they are not looking for the same thing in their purchases. I have seen many comments from drivers that own both, and they use them for totally different purposes.
if Ford sells a shit ton of them, that actually helps Ford in the future to be able to sell more of the cars you love.
Holy crap you need to slow down when you speak. You talk at 1.5x.
With bidumb pushing these I would never get one
Quit insulting Ford and Mustang Mach E. Didn’t your parents taught if you don’t have anything nice to say then don’t say anything.
Because nobody wants to spend their money on EV junk. If your not rolling a naturally aspirated engine, you bought trash.
It’s not 1990
Ford has a new lease special on these models. For the Select trim level, I believe it's about $340/month in some regions at least.
It is more
Hilarious. Poor people lease .
no lease is for companys why you want to buy a car and burn your money ?@@zoobrizz
Saying everyone who wants an EV already has one as an excuse for MME poor sales is not true. If that were true why is Tesla selling so many cars and manage to produce at full factory capacity?
you talk too fast
Lack of switch gear is a problem for me.
They are not selling because Tesla's are just profoundly better in every way! The people who want buttons ALL OVER THE PLACE IN A CAR are the same that are upset their smartphone does not have a rotory dial on it. With Tesla you literally set the screen and forget about it. It does everything for you.
Teslas are a scam . Just look into Elon Musk
Yep! What he said
Not in every way, but many ways
@@teamcaveman I don't know how the mustang EV is better than a Tesla in anyway. .
@@akennedystocks fit and finish. To some people the looks. People who used to regular cars and not Tesla have easier time crossing over to the Mach-e. TH-camrs talk about performance this and that, but in every day driving some think the Mach is more user friendly. For some reason Tesla people make excuses for Tesla’s problems, but look for anything to put the Mach-e down. Most Tesla owners have only owned teslas or it’s the first expensive vehicle they’ve owned. I don’t hate Tesla, but I’m not spending $60k on a vehicle hoping I don’t get a bad one, and I’ve seen really bad ones. So you’re biased in saying in every way…I agree there are many. But I have no problems with my wife’s Mach e GT, and I have a GT500 and have had many other cars before that…from 1965 2+2 mustangs to fox body cobra to German vehicles to Japanese vehicles and now 2 mustangs. Please stop riding the Tesla high horse and stop thinking the same things you like about Tesla are the same things everyone values in a vehicle. Why would you even troll a Mach e video…just to rant about teslas? This video shouldn’t even concern you but you seem to want to push your Tesla values on people who could care less about teslas
Clickbait!
Dude, learn how to talk.
Fake Mustang!
They arent selling because they are a complete affront to the nameplate. They shouldnt exist. I am personally insulted every time I see one. When driving my GT350 I ALWAYS pipe the crap out of them when I pass them. It shouldnt exist and the people who buy them are the real problem
Amen brother. 2022 GT here.
awe, sounds like someone has had their feelings hurt, and had to come over to an E Mach video for some affirmation. Show us on the doll where the bad E Mach hurt you!
Worst car reviewer ever. Boring and dull content
The majority does not want electric
Great answer. Video is over.
Don't worry, the government will make you buy one.
If I were a city driver Id be cool with one. But I drive across country all the time. Trying to charge the battery for that would be insane.
That is because they never tried driving an EV and they are profoundly closed minded and ignorant.
@@akennedystocks wrong.
Why not just call it a Mach-E and leave off the Mustang name?
That thing is a complete embarrassment to the mustang local Ford dealership where I live has hard time selling those things has some that were traded back in for real cars