Darcy Wilmot is like a mini Blakey, he's an absolute jet going forward whenever he gets the ball. He's been an absolute jet his entire time playing so far. Logan Morris is insane for how young he is, with Kai Lohmann too. Morris is a good contested mark and setshot but he's probably the best key forward in the comp when the ball hits the ground already. Also love how Berry didnt tag dirty either, he wasnt hitting bont or whacking him behind play, he just made sure to stay close to him and make it hard for him to get the ball cleanly
@@unktopiaYeah agree, last year he was clearly really struggling with his shoulder, you could see it he would panic handball, kick to avoid contact but now with his confidence back fully he has been absolutely awesome. Particularly as Fly is using him perfectly. He's our fifth highest goal kicker so far this year. If he can stay healthy he will help the pies heaps
Hoyney Summed Up "In terms of handball receives from a post-clearance contested possession, this player is the 47th best player in the competition when going on to take a running bounce when under a pressure rating of 1.6 or higher."
"Seven of the last two premiers had 20 or more players with this flying profile won the premiership, this profile means you can expect this team to make preliminary final weekend..."
Sydney beat Collingwood at the MCG in round two. Between 2014 and 2022 Sydney did not play Collingwood in Melbourne at all, meanwhile Collingwood made the trek to Sydney every year for two decades until 2022. If Sydney was serious about playing in front of large crowds at the MCG they would ask for more matches there against clubs like Collingwood instead of easy games at the SCG year after year.
Collingwood's defence didn't look as good last year cause we played much riskier football when we were going forward (relatively) safe in the knowledge that Moore and Murphy could intercept or get a stoppage when we turn it over in a bad position. This year we're playing with more caution (for most of the game anyway) going forward to protect our defense which isnt the same without Murphy
Daniel Hoyne: "Brisbane are back on track. There's no more damaging team ball-in-hand over the last six weeks than Brisbane". Seriously. They had a day out against a VFL Richmond side a few weeks ago. They are 13th on the ladder and don't have a single win on the board against a side in the top 8. The media declare them back in the premiership race after every win they have, and they invariably lose the following week. They are nowhere near it.
Healy 😂 the guys talking about gws and Healy goes, " Is that because of Tom Stewart?" I couldn't be the only one who missed the next 5 minutes in hysterics 😂
Coming to an AFL comment section is, i imagine, very similar to visiting a high-dependence psychiatric ward for a look around. Delusional people everywhere who are fixated on their own version of reality regardless of the facts that go against it. Not all of you; some great insights on here as well.
@@michaelmcclure3383 There are delusional Swans supporters, there are Pies supporters with excellent insights, and vice versa; just as there are both kinds from every supporter base. Granted, I hear and see more weird, dumb comments from some supporter bases than others but that could be more about socio-economic and educational factors than it is about the clubs they support.
I’ve got them winning two games they will need 3-4 to maybe make it 5 wins would secure being in the eight that’s basically the same for all teams currently in the eight 5 wins is needed except Sydney , maybe Iam wrong but the bombers have a long way to go
@@scotmclaughlin2113Essendon will win more games with the way they play rather then lose they just told you the profile Essendon is playing with but whatever you jealous haters will always hate
St Kilda scoring , by running the ball out of the opposition's forward line. Yes true . But .... Generally after their opposition has kicked 3 goals, and then , kicked a behind. So that's when StKilda gets an easy possession. They're good at keeping the ball in the opposition's forward line , that's their 90% effective stat 😂😂😂 Manangatang's 2nd 18 could beat the Saints , sorry no offence intended ' tang crew
As a Collingwood fan I knew the list was old and wanted McRae to accept it, blood youth and start rejuvenating. Take the losses now to build for the future. Except… McRae is playing young’uns and half the list is injured and we’re still playing really well. Not complaining but I don’t really know how things are going so well.
It's system. Everyone knows what they're doing, they play in unison and with confidence. And it's like all successful teams, you have to study and understand the system inside out to get into the team. Everyone who has come in has been outstanding almost seamsless. Contrast that to port Adelaide who have a shit defensive system, and Kane makes excuses for Hinkley. "Players aren't good enough"
@@Tatumstantrum Defs the case for DeGoey and Pendles (who is basically a free assistant coach). But Mitchell is no loss; tbh I think Sullivan has displaced him.
@matthewanderson4378 I don't think they need them as much as last year. Sullivan is doing exactly what Mitchell can do, Fin McRae is looking solid, Josh Daicos and Lipinski have stepped up massively, Schultz has found some form, Joe Richards has been unreal in the two games he's played before injury. A fully healthy Collingwood is the only team that can beat Sydney, and Collingwood likely don't lose until they face Sydney
@@TheMissiIe Not seeming to miss them right now as much but come the big games against other top4 calibre teams and they will need em out there. Very unlikely to win through to sydney mate.
Spelling isn’t you strong suit, either is Intelligence, Carlton has played every team in the top ten, and only lost 3 games with their three best back men out, plus one of the hardest draws in the AFL……….Not given a Sweetheart deal like Sydney………..and also a dozen Injuries………the Blues are the Real Deal, so suck it up.
I laugh at all the Blues supporters believing that their the number 2 seed. It's Collingwood for mine and by some margin. And unfortunately for my team Sydney, we may end up 3+ wins ahead of the Pies at the end of the season and still have to travel down to their home ground to play the ground final. A national competition this ain't. Gil sought to that by locking it in at the MCG until 2037, and possibly 2057! Insane lack of vision.
@@DylanJDS Yes, Dylan, I believe I am correct. That is why it is my opinion. Blues supporters would also believe they are correct. That would be their opinion. That's actually how opinions work. You probably have your opinion that you would believe to be correct. Amazing, ay?
@@robsonbennett-cochrane2004 You're clearly comfortable with the distortion. I presume you support a Victorian club? Actually, don't answer that. I already know.
@@sammythesloth9408 I don't support it necessarily, I'm just saying it's unlikely to ever change just due to the revenue of selling twice the amount of grand final tickets.
if lipinski is truly on the list of most underrated i will officially lose all respect for champion data. i was watching the pies on monday and paying close attention to lipinski and i’ve noticed this every time i’ve seen him play but his ball use is genuinely fucking horrendous. like he is an incredibly unskillful player. i was literally thinking imagine how much hate he would get if he played for richmond. much like taranto… and now 2 days later champion data is (potentially) claiming he’s underrated when he’s not even badly rated suggesting champion data rates him as a very good player.
Sounds as if you are basing this off of his performance last year and haven’t watched a game this year. Massive improvement. Especially when you look at his performance in the finals last year. Couldn’t hit a target. Not the case this year.
@@deanmckay5538 not from what i’ve watched. on saturday he missed an inside 50 kick by 10+ meters to the left and missed a basic handball by like 2 meters. and that’s just the ones that immediately come to mind. he’s gotten better sure. but better than awful can still be bad.
I'm not concerned about under-rated players' stats , it's the over-rated players' stats that concern me. It's what you see with the knacked -eye. More power to the opinion, from one -eyed people whom attend every week.
Darcy Wilmot is like a mini Blakey, he's an absolute jet going forward whenever he gets the ball. He's been an absolute jet his entire time playing so far. Logan Morris is insane for how young he is, with Kai Lohmann too. Morris is a good contested mark and setshot but he's probably the best key forward in the comp when the ball hits the ground already. Also love how Berry didnt tag dirty either, he wasnt hitting bont or whacking him behind play, he just made sure to stay close to him and make it hard for him to get the ball cleanly
Lipinski is playing great
Having the best season of his career
Yep, cleaned up his disposal a lot. Now a completely different player
I think his shoulder still hampered him last year. Was able to have a full pre-season this and it shows.
@@unktopiaYeah agree, last year he was clearly really struggling with his shoulder, you could see it he would panic handball, kick to avoid contact but now with his confidence back fully he has been absolutely awesome. Particularly as Fly is using him perfectly. He's our fifth highest goal kicker so far this year. If he can stay healthy he will help the pies heaps
He’s going like Nigel Lappin atm
Hoyney Summed Up
"In terms of handball receives from a post-clearance contested possession, this player is the 47th best player in the competition when going on to take a running bounce when under a pressure rating of 1.6 or higher."
"Seven of the last two premiers had 20 or more players with this flying profile won the premiership, this profile means you can expect this team to make preliminary final weekend..."
Sydney beat Collingwood at the MCG in round two. Between 2014 and 2022 Sydney did not play Collingwood in Melbourne at all, meanwhile Collingwood made the trek to Sydney every year for two decades until 2022.
If Sydney was serious about playing in front of large crowds at the MCG they would ask for more matches there against clubs like Collingwood instead of easy games at the SCG year after year.
Syd ducks are going to be flat come finals time because they have peaked way early. Bottom line dude Syd will not win the prem this season 😊
@@paulkyriakopoulos3444just what people tell themselves when they’re scared
Collingwood's defence didn't look as good last year cause we played much riskier football when we were going forward (relatively) safe in the knowledge that Moore and Murphy could intercept or get a stoppage when we turn it over in a bad position.
This year we're playing with more caution (for most of the game anyway) going forward to protect our defense which isnt the same without Murphy
Would genuinely be intrigued to see Hoyne's supercoach team...
Think it would be super interesting
Collingwood
@@89joshuadaviesdon’t swear
@@89joshuadaviesno swearing
haha the look on Hoyney's face when Gerard asked about Tom Stewart being tagged as the reason for GWS struggling
Daniel Hoyne: "Brisbane are back on track. There's no more damaging team ball-in-hand over the last six weeks than Brisbane".
Seriously. They had a day out against a VFL Richmond side a few weeks ago. They are 13th on the ladder and don't have a single win on the board against a side in the top 8. The media declare them back in the premiership race after every win they have, and they invariably lose the following week. They are nowhere near it.
Healy 😂 the guys talking about gws and Healy goes, " Is that because of Tom Stewart?"
I couldn't be the only one who missed the next 5 minutes in hysterics 😂
Lipinski being let go by the Dogs was a terrible decision. One that all dogs fans are angry about
Coming to an AFL comment section is, i imagine, very similar to visiting a high-dependence psychiatric ward for a look around. Delusional people everywhere who are fixated on their own version of reality regardless of the facts that go against it.
Not all of you; some great insights on here as well.
Cheers hoyney
Sounds a bit mean to Sydney supporters
@@michaelmcclure3383 There are delusional Swans supporters, there are Pies supporters with excellent insights, and vice versa; just as there are both kinds from every supporter base. Granted, I hear and see more weird, dumb comments from some supporter bases than others but that could be more about socio-economic and educational factors than it is about the clubs they support.
NFI why they are talking up Essendon lol. look at that percentage? ladder predictor barely has them in the 8 at the end of the season
I’ve got them winning two games they will need 3-4 to maybe make it 5 wins would secure being in the eight that’s basically the same for all teams currently in the eight 5 wins is needed except Sydney , maybe Iam wrong but the bombers have a long way to go
You nuff
@@scotmclaughlin2113Essendon will win more games with the way they play rather then lose they just told you the profile Essendon is playing with but whatever you jealous haters will always hate
St Kilda scoring , by running the ball out of the opposition's forward line. Yes true . But .... Generally after their opposition has kicked 3 goals, and then , kicked a behind. So that's when StKilda gets an easy possession. They're good at keeping the ball in the opposition's forward line , that's their 90% effective stat 😂😂😂
Manangatang's 2nd 18 could beat the Saints , sorry no offence intended ' tang crew
Nic newan has to be up there as the most underrated player
Cincotta would be Carlton’s 1
@Shreds111 newman has been solid defender for years. Cincotta has really hit his straps this year
Richmond won a flag at the Gabba too 😉
and yet still no one will talk about laverde, literally never takes a day off and im not even an essendon supporter
Amon is not having a great season. A good season.
Essendon top 4
As a Collingwood fan I knew the list was old and wanted McRae to accept it, blood youth and start rejuvenating.
Take the losses now to build for the future.
Except… McRae is playing young’uns and half the list is injured and we’re still playing really well.
Not complaining but I don’t really know how things are going so well.
It's system. Everyone knows what they're doing, they play in unison and with confidence. And it's like all successful teams, you have to study and understand the system inside out to get into the team. Everyone who has come in has been outstanding almost seamsless. Contrast that to port Adelaide who have a shit defensive system, and Kane makes excuses for Hinkley. "Players aren't good enough"
Pies can't win back 2 back without Degoey, Mitchell,Pendles etc
They'll play finals but not sure how high they finish
@@Tatumstantrum Defs the case for DeGoey and Pendles (who is basically a free assistant coach). But Mitchell is no loss; tbh I think Sullivan has displaced him.
@matthewanderson4378 I don't think they need them as much as last year. Sullivan is doing exactly what Mitchell can do, Fin McRae is looking solid, Josh Daicos and Lipinski have stepped up massively, Schultz has found some form, Joe Richards has been unreal in the two games he's played before injury.
A fully healthy Collingwood is the only team that can beat Sydney, and Collingwood likely don't lose until they face Sydney
@@TheMissiIe Not seeming to miss them right now as much but come the big games against other top4 calibre teams and they will need em out there.
Very unlikely to win through to sydney mate.
Jordan Clark he’s having a better season then Blakey playing the same role
Different role, Blakey has to play tall at times, and more lockdown at times.
@@Jopup5 Didn’t know that
Hello hoynie:)
Spelling isn’t you strong suit, either is Intelligence, Carlton has played every team in the top ten, and only lost 3 games with their three best back men out, plus one of the hardest draws in the AFL……….Not given a Sweetheart deal like Sydney………..and also a dozen Injuries………the Blues are the Real Deal, so suck it up.
Port is the only top side swans haven’t played? Wdym sweetheart deal
Another Carlton L lmfao bruh Carlton made the prelim last season of course there draw is gonna be harder this season you guys are clueless
I laugh at all the Blues supporters believing that their the number 2 seed. It's Collingwood for mine and by some margin. And unfortunately for my team Sydney, we may end up 3+ wins ahead of the Pies at the end of the season and still have to travel down to their home ground to play the ground final. A national competition this ain't. Gil sought to that by locking it in at the MCG until 2037, and possibly 2057! Insane lack of vision.
So the blues supporters sharing their opinion is wrong as opposed to your opinion being correct?
@@DylanJDS Yes, Dylan, I believe I am correct. That is why it is my opinion. Blues supporters would also believe they are correct. That would be their opinion. That's actually how opinions work. You probably have your opinion that you would believe to be correct. Amazing, ay?
Build a bigger stadium
@@robsonbennett-cochrane2004 You're clearly comfortable with the distortion. I presume you support a Victorian club? Actually, don't answer that. I already know.
@@sammythesloth9408 I don't support it necessarily, I'm just saying it's unlikely to ever change just due to the revenue of selling twice the amount of grand final tickets.
Freo Vs Swans GF
Freo not a chance, they would need to finish 2nd and not leave Optus till Granny
Lol... freo will drop out first week of finals
@@lukeowneslol well at least my team will make the finals your team won't 😂
@@Tatumstantrum well I think after Dee's game I think they have a chance, we play Sydney in 2 weeks
@@MickSchwager-gu5wp gotta beat the dogs this week first at Marvel
if lipinski is truly on the list of most underrated i will officially lose all respect for champion data. i was watching the pies on monday and paying close attention to lipinski and i’ve noticed this every time i’ve seen him play but his ball use is genuinely fucking horrendous. like he is an incredibly unskillful player. i was literally thinking imagine how much hate he would get if he played for richmond. much like taranto… and now 2 days later champion data is (potentially) claiming he’s underrated when he’s not even badly rated suggesting champion data rates him as a very good player.
wanted him dropped last year every game but if you don't see an insane improvement this year I don't know what you've been watching
Sounds as if you are basing this off of his performance last year and haven’t watched a game this year.
Massive improvement. Especially when you look at his performance in the finals last year. Couldn’t hit a target. Not the case this year.
@@deanmckay5538 not from what i’ve watched. on saturday he missed an inside 50 kick by 10+ meters to the left and missed a basic handball by like 2 meters. and that’s just the ones that immediately come to mind. he’s gotten better sure. but better than awful can still be bad.
I'm not concerned about under-rated players' stats , it's the over-rated players' stats that concern me. It's what you see with the knacked -eye. More power to the opinion, from one -eyed people whom attend every week.
He’s come a fair way this year