Should I use The chisel Bevel Up or Bevel Down
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2023
- The age old argument. Bevel up or bevel down.
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This man knows a lot about his paint can opener.
Oh boy... So true... I did open my share of paint cans with chisels, screwdrivers and many other "non can opening" devices :D
@@ogi22are you implying that a flat blade screwdriver isn't the correct tool for opening paint cans?
I worked construction for 20 years and have never seen anyone use anything else to open paint cans.
@@iwontliveinfear Nope, If it works, then it's up to you my friend 😁
😂
Well actually you’re supposed to lose all of your actual openers then you use your screwdriver/chisel, or if the can opener is more than 5 feet away, whichever is closer.
as a chiseled woodworker once said: “it’s your choice if tou want to go up or down.”
That’s bloody big-ender talk
That's what both grandfathers taught me. There's times when you use both ways. Granted they were born before power tools.
@@Klaaismjoke went over your head
@@zimzimph Did it? XD
"Its your choice if you want to go top or bottom"
Personally I like to flip it around, and rub the handle on the wood
The chad option
The trickster chisel
🤨📸
I put my chisel in a vice and take the block of wood to it.
Same, I love it when the chisel cuts my hand open, the blood really adds colour to my projects
You're coming at this from a good angle
I was gonna say he’s being obtuse, and you are being acute 😂
@@Nogdog945 acute girl? where?!
“The only people who are wrong are the people arguing about it saying one is better than the other” Love this.
The bevel is in the details😳
You realize that by saying that he will use this joke later right?
are you a father? because that is a dad joke if I've ever seen one
🤣🤣 There are so many great comments here, this is my favorite!
And ironically all the details are held within the bevel. We've come full circle lads!
You missed a golden opportunity for that bowl to be full of cereal and water, or even more trolling.. orange juice. 😂
Soda water and powdered milk (for potion of instant spoiled milk) and rice crispies for "Angry Spoiled Cereal".
Chuck Norris puts the soda then the powdered milk then the cereal then placed the bowl....
@@arceejackson8936 and they knew better than to spill, because it was Chuck Norris, so it all made it into the bowl.
Back in the early 80’s, my high school woodwork teacher explained it like this. Both ways are right. He then got us to make a housing joint to show what he meant. Bevel down while hacking out the majority of the recess, then bevel up, and lay the chisel flat to finish off the bottom of the recess. First for the control and speed, second to ensure a level cut.
That’s the best advice about hand tools anyones ever said. I honestly want to do more with them.
There is one time when it is acceptable to put milk in first. If you don't have enough milk for a full serving, put thw milk in and then add cereal until there's the right ratio.
Na man, poor the whole bowl, add the milk. Eat from the bottom while tipping excess milk back into the bowl and regretting not going to the store earlier.
I'll allow this method ONLY in these circumstaces. Even then, I'll have you know that plain dry cereal is preferable to putting the milk first.
@@Ares_V I eat cold quick oats, which are inedible dry...
Bruh, this is exactly why people put milk first at all. You always get a good ratio, always have a manageable amount of cereal in the bowl to eat before it gets soggy, and you can still portion your breakfast by how much milk you pour because once it gets to a certain point you can't add any more cereal and have it still get fully wet by the milk.
@@kcj1993 heyyy man you didnt have to go n call em poor like that! I like a good pun but that was just dirty dude lol
This is the best answer to almost every question… “Depends.”
Ahh, ya beat me too it.😂😂
You are absolutely correct. The only thing I care about is if my chisel is sharp and has been taken care of
I switch based on what I need the chisel for :3
Bevel up for rough and wide spaces, bevel down for small and precise cases.
Yup same here.. bevel up for trimming dowels or bow ties and such.. a good razor sharp chisel will work either way
Same here too. Bev up rough cut with big chip removal. Bevel down for final surfaces.
Usually bevel down for fast removal, bevel up,for finishing?
I trained (and failed) to be a carpenter for 2 years, and you explained it better in a minute than anyone else who was supposed to train me.
I don’t know much more than you’ve taught me about woodworking, or the tools themselves that you use while, but I enjoy watching your videos more than I do watching things about hobby’s or interests of my own. I thank you for your contributions and applaud your efforts.
No shit, this somehow never occurred to me. Thank you, sir
same. was never taught this in shop class at school so just never even considered that it was an option.
Being brought up by a cabnetmaker, and, a carpenter, and now I work machine maintenance for a living, I love your hammer😅
Dr. Seuss covered this topic perfectly in his "Bevel Battle Book."
Great short!! Good editing, well-written, personal touch as a creator, excellent and useful information. Keep more coming, if sustainable.
Great explanation! I use them so rarely that like a USB cable, i flip it multiple times before I get it "right". But now I learn the real difference and why both are correct. Thanks!
This was a fabulous lesson! use the "Right way" for the job you are doing!
I have never seen a chisel used like that.
I have learnt something today.
The jokes at the end keep me coming back. Content is great and I've learned a lot. But the jokes are just peak dad.
I never would have thought you could use it bevel down but that makes so much sense actually 😂
Different techniques for different tasks
That is a weird question to ask. There are a lot of different uses for a chisel and each use you're going to switch it for what you need.
Depends of what you want to do.
I preffer bevel down for rough work and bevel up for fine one. (When i'm making hole or similar, center of opening is up, wood i want to keep is down)
As a dentist, we use a scaled down version of this to smooth after using the drill. 10-7-14 enamel hatchet if you're curious. We're taught bevel down only, I often start bevel down and swap. Makes it even more consistent
I said that as soon as you asked the question "either way, depending on what you are going to do"
I'm unsure why I'm getting so many woodworking recommendations lately, but I sure as heck am not complaining. Nowadays I really wish that I had focused on all the times we did woodwork back in school, but I was a hyperactive child that could never focus on anything and got easily bored. Woodwork feels like such a Zen thing to do. I hope I get the chance to do some (at the very least as a hobby) in the future again.
All techniques have their proper application was one of the very first things i was taught as a machinist honestly. Good points all around buddy.
Both are good. I've always learned to use the flat side for digging deep and the bevel side for riding along the surface.
"If you're arguing, you're wrong."
Damn, didn't expect to have an existential crisis from a woodworking channel, but here we are 😂
I like to use my chisel sideways. This confuses the wood so much which makes the fibers lower their guard, making the cut easier.
I agree. The bevel is there to give the tool more functionality. You want a straight cut downwards, you should have bevel towards the area of wood being removed so that the downwards cut is straight and smooth. However, once one removes most of the wood, then one should go bevel down to level off the bottom of the cut to avoid gouges. Also bevel down helps ply the wood upwards. Each side has it own application.
My grandpa would say, "talking isn't getting that mortise done."
I asked myself this question a two days ago.
My head said it depends on what you’re carving for.
I had a feeling this was one of those "depends what you wanna do with it" situations
Just had this argument at work the other day. I like bevel down for the control and majority of the work and bevel up for the tight finish and making initial cuts.
I had no clue Bill Burr was such a skilled carpenter. Good on ya Bill!
That wall just earned you a Subscription. Magnificent!
that explains a LOT about what went wrong last time o used a chisels for a project. ty
This was once upon a time how we were taught in woodwork class at school .
Glad i finished the short. I was about to open the comments and write, what are you talking about, it depends on what youre doing
"That boy puts the milk into the cereal before the bowl." Sound like an old saying.
I can’t get over how this guy looks and sounds like the prop guy who does puns as well.
Bevel side is my personal favorite to confuse anyone
I’ve always been curious about this, it’s pretty cool!
That shirt is awesome and the cereal and milk hack only works for certain cereals. For example if the cereal has a lot of air pockets in it like Captain Crunch - I will apply milk first because I will continue to add more as I go. If it’s a heavy cereal - I will apply the cereal first and then milk 🥣
I feel very strongly both ways. lol
Competition will prove who style wins, but like you said, all depends. Have fun, nice video 🙂
Thanks for bevelling up our game...
ahhhh. NICE check mate!!!! well said and now I have something to ponder about!!!!!!!
Knowledgeable And hilarious!
U made me interested in wood working, thanks dad
This was great! I've seriously wondered this many times. Makes complete sense. Thanks
His joke reminded me of that guy who does the movie prop videos lol I like it
The best method: Whatever one is the right one for the job at hand.
Your one liners are great 😂
'dig or scrape' is how I was taught.
tbh the only job I have for a chisel is cleaning off old gaskets
This is also how I feel about what color tennis balls are
I was quite literally thinking this 2 minutes ago then this short popped up.
I like mind reading!
my teacher taught me how to use it both ways i didnt know people thought there was a "right way" to it
I do metal most of the time, but that bevel down rising up out of the wood....holy crapoli how did I miss that
Now I need to test this with my wax carving.
Bevel up for planing and cutting corners 😊
As someone that took shop class in highschool my teacher always told me both ways works it's all about the skill of the user this was a old timer now probably in his 80's so there way of doing things sometimes seems unconventional but their methods actually work well
Thanks for explaining.
That milk like got me. Lmao
To quote LegalEagle, "it depends"
there is a thing tho, if you need to make hole like for latch keep, use bevel up on surface you need to remove. As bevel will lift material, and wrong way it will damage the part you want to be nice. Learned it hard way myself :D
Bruh. I thank you for this advice. I've never questioned bevel down as a way before now.
Dude… you’re alright. Thanks for the video.
I have used my chisel your way for years. I also use a draw knife the same way because it allows me to control the depth of the cut.
Bro the bowl goes last dude. Always.
I fully endorse what ever method you think is wrong.
I just use it however I feel most comfortable on the project I'm working on.. when I hand carved a sakazuki out of mahogany I used bevel up to carve out the inside of the bowl and bevel down to help shape the outside easier
this dude is like the good cop version of bill burr, also I like your videos
I'm giving you a thums for your T-shirt.😂😂😂
Great composition and content!
How the milk situation is even an argument, is the reason why we still have cereal killers on the street.
Cereal first:
+Covers cereal with milk as you pour
+Measures out the right amount of milk for the bowl of cereal
+Mess free and convinient
-can let the cereal get soggy by the time your almost done
Milk first:
+Allows you to put extra milk in so you can keep adding more cereal in increments
+Prevents cereal getting soggy
+More milk stays colder longer, cereal first can reach room temp real quick
+Can measure how much youre gonna eat by how much milk you add
+No extra trips to the fridge required
-can be messy and easy to spill
-requires you to add more cereal as you're eating
Im in the milk first club myself. Especially for conrflakes and cereal that goes soggy quick, but usually just because i know im gonna eat more than a single bowl worth and would rather bring the cereal box to my room than keep making multiple trips to the fridge to refill my bowl.
🎵 rise up when you're livin on your knees you risee up🎶
It all depends on the work you're doing at the time, that's what knowing your tools will do for you!
This video radiates Ask This Old House energy?
chisel is a small knife blade on the end of a stick at a slight angle from the length of the stick, it does not matter which face of the blade faces the wood, as long as the edge is digging into the wood. use the chisel in whichever way is most optimal for the purpose at hand, and always consider which way will be most mechanically advantageous
Thanks for the information.
Thumbnail image looks like James is playing the flute lol
This was everything and I love you for it 😂
Ty for the knowledge I plan on doing kumiko and this actually helps a lot so thank you very much good sir
Very nicely explained.
Your jokes always make me smile, but this one made me laugh.
The order of cereal and milk depends on the types of milk and cereal. I take granola before regular milk, but yoghurt before cornflakes. The cases are perhaps more similar than you intended. 😊
You know what they say: “It’s your choice if you want to go top or bottom”
I didn't realize bevel down was an option 😮
Perfect explanation!
I usually put my milk in a cup, and then add cereal. Usually in small increments, so I don't loose any milk, and keep adding till there is no more milk.
Milk before when you do the midnight run and need to be quiet. Acts like a silencer for the clinking of the cereal
"It doesn't matter if you put the milk or the cereal first, the bowl comes last" -Therussianbadger
I found this out two cut thumbs after using my first (dull) chisel
As someone who has had to chisel things and learn by doing, I was wondering why it was a question and if I had missed something. It's happened before.
Me having never worked with wood: "I knew it."
I never knew you could actually do bevel down, my woodworking teacher years ago only taught us to use it bevel up 🙃😭
You are not the only one. there were a lot of interesting things taught in shop classes. it is hard when you only have so much time to get it all in.