To the person who asked how to start dating at 30 when you never have dated anyone at all - I'm 31 and 2 months into my first real relationship ever. I'm having a great experience because I found a woman who is kind, thoughtful, and understanding. She knows that everything is new. My advice is to not settle for anything less than someone who will understand, go at your pace, and make you feel celebrated.
Great advice! I didn't start dating until late twenties. So I can relate. One huge benefit was that by the time that I started dating, I was better at saying what I wanted and needed. I was better at setting good boundaries. Wasn't perfect at any of these things of course. But I wasn't the people pleaser I had been as a teenager. So I second the above advice. take your time. Get to know people. And find somebody who respects you and your needs
Mak with the wig off and the lipstick is kinda giving Robert Smith of The Cure, as opposed to Sia dragged backwards through a ditch. And Alayna looks like she should be in the video for the Toybox song 'Sailor Song' from the 2000s. 😂
Also I just want to validate the person who is 30 and never dated anyone, I'm 26 and never dated anyone because I was bullied so much growing up for my size, and now have this mindset that no one could possibly be attracted to which I'm trying really hard to work through. I don't know what the person who submitted the question's situation is, but I'm bisexual and in my late 20s and still have never dated anyone, so I just want that person to know they're not alone!
Me too! My first date was at age 31 and Ashley’s advice is solid but easier said than done 😅 I’m still working on just having fun and not putting too much pressure on myself.
I love that Alayna has spider hallucinations. I mean I hate it for her, but I have those hallucinations too! I've seen my room FILLED with spiders, and other things, so many times. I haven't seen anybody else talk about that.
I'm 28, asexual, and have also never dated anyone ever. Lately, I've been considering dating for the first time. Thank you for your insight, it was actually very helpful and gave me a lot to think about
I love horror movies because it gives my brain a chance to be “scared” of something that can’t hurt me rather than my own real life things I’m afraid of.
I'm 36 and I've never dated either. Had plenty of opportunity but I was just never interested at the time. I'm arospec asexual. As a teen I did not know this and kept waiting for the feelings to come that people kept claiming would. In my 20s I finally learned about asexuality and then later aromanticism. Now knowing that those applied to me, I had no reason to keep looking for those supposed feelings. When I was 32 I had a bit of a shift and started feeling a little bit of something but it's hard to hold on to and it doesn't come easily for me. I think I might be interested in dating now but it's going to be very difficult. People have their own paths through life and move at different paces. I agree with what Alayna said: I think I do have an advantage in dating in some aspects. My slate is blank. No past dating trauma, I'm not stuck in a heteronormative dating mindset which I could have gotten stuck in if I had tried dating guys in my teens (back when I assumed I must be straight), etc. I think I have a pretty healthy view of relationships and of myself. I've done practically nothing but spend time with myself, becoming confident and whole, independent of another person. Also, yes Ashley, I'm definitely gonna be bad at it. 😅
Ok but when I lived in missouri last year I dressed up as a straight girl for halloween and this is exactly what it felt like so I feel seen. Thank you Mak for the representation
I think we can all agree that Mak is officially the Czar of questions 😉👍 But sincerely, appreciate you keeping the fam on track with making sure Patreon is being considered haha
To bolster what Mak was maybe saying, most of the lessons you can learn from trauma can also be learned by challenging yourself in a controlled, non-trauma, setting. It's true that my specific traumas have taught me stuff, but I could have learned those same things through therapy, or with solid mentors
Obviously the burst of gut laughter I experienced during the first 30 seconds reminded me who the comedian is on this Pod. I love yous guysy!!! Ash, you da man!
My rebel side will never submit to Ashley yelling that we must subscribe to the patreon. So thx to all the people who are willing to donate because I love watching this content.
I am 29, and I have only dated one person at 18 for a few months and another at 23 for two months. I think the reason is that I have such a bad fear of emotional and physical intimacy; it just takes away my all interest
Re: straight line or peaks and valleys, whenever someone calls me “resilient,” I think “yeah but I wish I didn’t have to be.” I’m happy with who I am, but I didn’t need these traumas. But/and I know it’s made my life more… life-y.
I have been a pretty straight line type, but I was always there wishing I could check out the peaks and valleys like others were. I felt too scared to go low, and too inadequate to go up. Now my goal is to be in the middle by choice and to find they joy that resides there.
I am the person who listened to this in the morning while I was on my run but later had to come watch it on TH-cam because I didn’t want to miss out on Mak as Barbie 😅😂
Mak in lipstick gave me flashbacks to the gender dysphoria I felt wearing makeup to prom, back when I didn't have words for how weird it made me feel. 😂
23:37 as a person with a highly active imagination, personally, I cannot relate to this 😂 I know it’s not real but my brain is like “but what if it is?” I usually have to watch a kids show after a horror movie to cleanse my brain lmao
Probably some people are gonna think Ashley is mean or whatever but Ashley roasting Mak and Alayna was so fucking funny 😂 Seriously made my morning. Also I'm wearing earbuds because I watch this pod super early in the morning and don't want to wake up my apartment neighbors, but this morning it was futile because I was laughing so hard 😂
If it makes you feel better, most of those ppl have fucked off and my shows and the comment sections are so much better now, and it’s making me feel freer and consequently funnier.
23:50 the correlation with horror movies and anxiety is so real ime. I’ve loved horror movies, games, & haunted houses (like GOOD ones where they touch you and shit) etc my whole life. I’ve had anxiety my entire life, as long as I can remember. I was that kid with no nails and a red ass bottom lip (from sucking on it) lmao. The best way I can explain it is there’s something kinda comforting about being able to control your anxiety, and the relief that it isn’t real.. even when in the moment it sorta feels that way. Idk lol. I hope some people with anxiety understand what I’m talking about 😆
Not a huge horror game player or film watcher but I *definitely* understand enjoying the thrill of haunted houses and rollercoaster drops, etc. In the right doses and with a set end time, feeling fear can definitely be a thrill!
I’m a peaks a valleys gal. As someone who was a sociopath most of my life, peaks and valleys is how I healed myself and gained empathy. I needed extreme situations and contrasts to be able to finally connect to other humans. It’s more about integrating the full human experience than glorifying disability or illness, etc… but I know not all people have the same end goal and for probably many the flat line is a more constructive goal to have.
the extreme highs and lows can be really difficult, but if you are living a life that is a completely straight line it might be indicative of hiding away from truly living. i think it really depends on where that line is if that makes sense, like if it is in the middle or low or high. I also heard a quote about how trying to control the highs and lows completely means you flatline, and you stop living. idrk though, i think i see both sides of it.
Alayna being serious, thinking about the question in her little sailor outfit was sending me 😂 Also I was getting massive Harry Styles vibes from the outfit. I think it was the glasses that did it.
The reality of my transition is I lost the ability to just sit and people watch as a passing FTM. Breaks my heart and makes me really empathize with cis men on the burden of assumption.
I've seen only a couple of minutes of this so far. You're always fantastic. This is priceless. Priceless. After watching all the way through: a higher level of hysterically funny. I appreciate so much that you make my day.
Mak low-key flattered by the eyebrow love. Also, isn't break-up season right after the holidays cause you want someone to come with you to events, then you can dip out once that's all done? Am I wrong?
So in the peaks & valley's convo - I think we need the valley's (to a certain extent) to appreciate the peaks. Im ridiculously happy now but if my wife & I had started dating earlier, I know I wouldn't have appreciated her as much. I don't think it means you have to go through fully awful things, but even a slight valley can teach us things!
Hah I was on the same page as Ashley. As soon as I heard the chaos I switched to yt and got caught up and shes just like "no, they can get on TH-cam" 😂
“Are you Sia? What is happening?” 😂😂😂😂 “Walk of Shame Barbie”!!!!😂😂😂😂
To the person who asked how to start dating at 30 when you never have dated anyone at all - I'm 31 and 2 months into my first real relationship ever. I'm having a great experience because I found a woman who is kind, thoughtful, and understanding. She knows that everything is new. My advice is to not settle for anything less than someone who will understand, go at your pace, and make you feel celebrated.
Great advice! I didn't start dating until late twenties. So I can relate. One huge benefit was that by the time that I started dating, I was better at saying what I wanted and needed. I was better at setting good boundaries. Wasn't perfect at any of these things of course. But I wasn't the people pleaser I had been as a teenager.
So I second the above advice. take your time. Get to know people. And find somebody who respects you and your needs
Ashley's dad rant about the soundboard was giving Gordon Ramsay, I don't think I've ever laughed so hard as that whole segment
I feel like not licking people at meet and greets is common sense, but sometimes the world surprises you.
Ashley feeling uncomfortable with Mak in the wig is a total vibe! 😂🤣😂
Mak with the wig off and the lipstick is kinda giving Robert Smith of The Cure, as opposed to Sia dragged backwards through a ditch. And Alayna looks like she should be in the video for the Toybox song 'Sailor Song' from the 2000s. 😂
Mak without the wig= Some kind of avant garde male 1980s singer
Ashley=DILF (no change there)
Alayna= Nautical Elton John
“You’re regret Barbie” LMAO
Ashley’s smile when she saw Alayna’s Sailor Barbie was so cute ✨🤪
Mak is channeling weird barbie 😂Had to pause the audio podcast to come watch it here and see the reveal
Also I just want to validate the person who is 30 and never dated anyone, I'm 26 and never dated anyone because I was bullied so much growing up for my size, and now have this mindset that no one could possibly be attracted to which I'm trying really hard to work through. I don't know what the person who submitted the question's situation is, but I'm bisexual and in my late 20s and still have never dated anyone, so I just want that person to know they're not alone!
ditto!!
I'm also 26 and never dated anyone!
Me too! My first date was at age 31 and Ashley’s advice is solid but easier said than done 😅 I’m still working on just having fun and not putting too much pressure on myself.
me too, and i am 29! and my few dating experiences for a 3 months were really bad.. thats why i havent dated anyone the last 6 years
and thats ok! :)
34 and never dated here🤚
I've been on dates but never more than 2 with the same person and only a handful.
I'm laughing so much at Alayna being so serious while wearing those glasses
Them addressing each other as Barbie made me chuckle. I just love that concept of calling all girls Barbies 😂. Wholesome content
There’s just something about Alayna giving the most wise and heartfelt insight I’ve ever heard while wearing a kid’s sailor uniform
The reactions to Macs costume, I’m absolutely dead 😭
Ashley to Mak: "Thank you Chad for comparing your ice baths to my disability." Uhhh laughing so hard
I love that Alayna has spider hallucinations. I mean I hate it for her, but I have those hallucinations too! I've seen my room FILLED with spiders, and other things, so many times. I haven't seen anybody else talk about that.
This episode is a hazard! I'm home alone and I almost choked when Ashley said "wet porcupine"
the jumpscare wig reveal took me out, thank you, Mak. Fantastic work!
I'm 28, asexual, and have also never dated anyone ever. Lately, I've been considering dating for the first time. Thank you for your insight, it was actually very helpful and gave me a lot to think about
"You think I look like Jennifer Anniston?" "Not at all what I'm saying" 😆😆
I love horror movies because it gives my brain a chance to be “scared” of something that can’t hurt me rather than my own real life things I’m afraid of.
Also but what if you’re just a 32 year old who loves to swing on a swing lol 😂
I gotta say, every time Ashley takes her hat off to reveal her hair, I FEEL something...
"I just want to be horizontal and be safe" is a Hinge profile for the age
WAIT, Imma go watch the last ep again so I can agree with all the points in Ashley's list just for the fun of it!
okay i'm back, and yes, everything Ashley said is so true. Everything in that list is true and factual, and correct
I lmao sooo hard while Ashley went full father mode and read list of things they did wrong last time 😂
I am 6 minutes in and it literally hurts from how much I'm smiling
I actually really relate to the recognizing peaks and valleys in retrospect - especially when it comes to romantic emotions
Ashley's ~alright, show dad your cool new clothes~ vibe is so spot on 😂 equal parts 'lets get this over with' and real adoration ❤
I'm 36 and I've never dated either. Had plenty of opportunity but I was just never interested at the time. I'm arospec asexual. As a teen I did not know this and kept waiting for the feelings to come that people kept claiming would. In my 20s I finally learned about asexuality and then later aromanticism. Now knowing that those applied to me, I had no reason to keep looking for those supposed feelings. When I was 32 I had a bit of a shift and started feeling a little bit of something but it's hard to hold on to and it doesn't come easily for me. I think I might be interested in dating now but it's going to be very difficult.
People have their own paths through life and move at different paces. I agree with what Alayna said: I think I do have an advantage in dating in some aspects. My slate is blank. No past dating trauma, I'm not stuck in a heteronormative dating mindset which I could have gotten stuck in if I had tried dating guys in my teens (back when I assumed I must be straight), etc. I think I have a pretty healthy view of relationships and of myself. I've done practically nothing but spend time with myself, becoming confident and whole, independent of another person.
Also, yes Ashley, I'm definitely gonna be bad at it. 😅
Ok but when I lived in missouri last year I dressed up as a straight girl for halloween and this is exactly what it felt like so I feel seen. Thank you Mak for the representation
Alayna recognizing Jennifer Anistons mouth and exact lipstick shade is peak sapphic
I think we can all agree that Mak is officially the Czar of questions 😉👍
But sincerely, appreciate you keeping the fam on track with making sure Patreon is being considered haha
To bolster what Mak was maybe saying, most of the lessons you can learn from trauma can also be learned by challenging yourself in a controlled, non-trauma, setting. It's true that my specific traumas have taught me stuff, but I could have learned those same things through therapy, or with solid mentors
I fully agree that Mak with the cat eye and lip gloss was a look! Giving lesbian mechanic barbie 😂
Dad is back 😂😂
The family appreciates him a little more...finally 😂
FINALLY
@@ashgavs 😂🤣
Obviously the burst of gut laughter I experienced during the first 30 seconds reminded me who the comedian is on this Pod. I love yous guysy!!! Ash, you da man!
Alayna's smile could melt the SUN!
The first thing I thought of when they brought up the soundboard was the fact that Ashley literally has one for her other pod😂
My rebel side will never submit to Ashley yelling that we must subscribe to the patreon. So thx to all the people who are willing to donate because I love watching this content.
Yeah I just don't have the money for it, so very glad that others do!
Elite Weird Barbie Mak, Kate McKinnon would approve
Mak' "lesbian who was sent on a conversion camp Barbie" is now my costume for Halloween 😤
Where can i buy regret Barbie lol?
I am 29, and I have only dated one person at 18 for a few months and another at 23 for two months. I think the reason is that I have such a bad fear of emotional and physical intimacy; it just takes away my all interest
Mac revealing punk ‘it’s not a phase’ lil brother vibes without the wig 🤘
Re: straight line or peaks and valleys, whenever someone calls me “resilient,” I think “yeah but I wish I didn’t have to be.” I’m happy with who I am, but I didn’t need these traumas. But/and I know it’s made my life more… life-y.
I have been a pretty straight line type, but I was always there wishing I could check out the peaks and valleys like others were. I felt too scared to go low, and too inadequate to go up. Now my goal is to be in the middle by choice and to find they joy that resides there.
This brings me so much joy, the dynamic is my favorite. 🤣❤ got tickets to see Ashley in 25 days for my bday 🎉🥰
Mak needs more love she did a good job Omg she has make up even
The peaks and valleys reach you to be grateful for a straight consistent line of happiness
Mak's eye makeup is actually really cute and i juat felt that needed some appreciation here. Her gf did a good job
This went from dad rant to community theater director rant. ❤
I am the person who listened to this in the morning while I was on my run but later had to come watch it on TH-cam because I didn’t want to miss out on Mak as Barbie 😅😂
Mak in lipstick gave me flashbacks to the gender dysphoria I felt wearing makeup to prom, back when I didn't have words for how weird it made me feel. 😂
The amount of times I have rewatched and watched 2:52 - 2:58 is unreal because my stomach hurts so fucking bad I almost pissed myself
23:37 as a person with a highly active imagination, personally, I cannot relate to this 😂 I know it’s not real but my brain is like “but what if it is?” I usually have to watch a kids show after a horror movie to cleanse my brain lmao
The Costumes are EVERYTHING!!! I wanna go as ✨️Mak as Barbie✨️ now for Halloween❤❤😂 Happy Halloween & Fall to everyone❤❤❤
Yes, Ashley! Horizontal and safe!
Mak DOES look kinda hot with the cat eye 🤣🤣🤣
Ashley going off about the soundboard was exactly like my dad going off when I fucked up as a kid😂😂😂😭
I’m so glad Ashley is back with the roasts😂 I love it!!❤️
Probably some people are gonna think Ashley is mean or whatever but Ashley roasting Mak and Alayna was so fucking funny 😂 Seriously made my morning.
Also I'm wearing earbuds because I watch this pod super early in the morning and don't want to wake up my apartment neighbors, but this morning it was futile because I was laughing so hard 😂
If it makes you feel better, most of those ppl have fucked off and my shows and the comment sections are so much better now, and it’s making me feel freer and consequently funnier.
Actually, I think Mak being in Missouri makes the whole costume better
23:50 the correlation with horror movies and anxiety is so real ime. I’ve loved horror movies, games, & haunted houses (like GOOD ones where they touch you and shit) etc my whole life. I’ve had anxiety my entire life, as long as I can remember. I was that kid with no nails and a red ass bottom lip (from sucking on it) lmao.
The best way I can explain it is there’s something kinda comforting about being able to control your anxiety, and the relief that it isn’t real.. even when in the moment it sorta feels that way. Idk lol. I hope some people with anxiety understand what I’m talking about 😆
Not a huge horror game player or film watcher but I *definitely* understand enjoying the thrill of haunted houses and rollercoaster drops, etc. In the right doses and with a set end time, feeling fear can definitely be a thrill!
I've had HUGE peaks and valleys and I would still always choose that over flat... I would never want to give up the peaks!
Off topic but Alayna slayed her look❤😍
I’m a peaks a valleys gal. As someone who was a sociopath most of my life, peaks and valleys is how I healed myself and gained empathy. I needed extreme situations and contrasts to be able to finally connect to other humans. It’s more about integrating the full human experience than glorifying disability or illness, etc… but I know not all people have the same end goal and for probably many the flat line is a more constructive goal to have.
i always look forward to this podcast😂❤️ all my favorite people
the extreme highs and lows can be really difficult, but if you are living a life that is a completely straight line it might be indicative of hiding away from truly living. i think it really depends on where that line is if that makes sense, like if it is in the middle or low or high. I also heard a quote about how trying to control the highs and lows completely means you flatline, and you stop living. idrk though, i think i see both sides of it.
LOVED this episode! I laughed so hard. Thanks for the good start to my day, chosen family 🌞
This episode is so f’ing hilarious
7:59 I like that Mak is drinking a „blonde“ roast, wearing a blonde wig to impersonate Barbara Millicent Roberts.
Alayna being serious, thinking about the question in her little sailor outfit was sending me 😂 Also I was getting massive Harry Styles vibes from the outfit. I think it was the glasses that did it.
I always enjoy hat-free Ashley!😍😍
"are you Sia" had me on the floor
I Love this podcast so much, it’s a solid part of my Wednesday routine by now
The reality of my transition is I lost the ability to just sit and people watch as a passing FTM. Breaks my heart and makes me really empathize with cis men on the burden of assumption.
Ashley at 2:33 looks like she's admiring Alayna then remembered she was being filmed 😂
I've seen only a couple of minutes of this so far. You're always fantastic. This is priceless. Priceless.
After watching all the way through: a higher level of hysterically funny. I appreciate so much that you make my day.
Had to come back to this one. The bits are sooo funny!! 😂😂 (for the gen z 💀)
I just wanted to say not dating till late sounds maybe an asexual spectrum experience. Something else to consider!
The way Mak just popped up on the screen 😂
I'm with Alayna on the peaks and valleys vs. flat-line. :D
Are you Sia?! 😂😂😂That was exactly what I thought 😂😂😂
SIMPING FOR CAPTAIN ALAYNA
2:56 THE RAW CUT TO MAC 😂😂😭😭😭
Awwww Dad, how I missed your roasting the whole family ❤
Mak looked awesome! Loved the cat eye.
I think I want neither the peaks and valleys nor the plains, I want waves
I love the podcast been following since day one I don’t believe it’s been 53 episodes already.
Mak low-key flattered by the eyebrow love.
Also, isn't break-up season right after the holidays cause you want someone to come with you to events, then you can dip out once that's all done?
Am I wrong?
So in the peaks & valley's convo - I think we need the valley's (to a certain extent) to appreciate the peaks. Im ridiculously happy now but if my wife & I had started dating earlier, I know I wouldn't have appreciated her as much. I don't think it means you have to go through fully awful things, but even a slight valley can teach us things!
Hah I was on the same page as Ashley. As soon as I heard the chaos I switched to yt and got caught up and shes just like "no, they can get on TH-cam" 😂
Love this podcast!
This is friggin’ hilarious!! 😂 Love you all! I want to be the “Hot Auntie”!! 😂😂😂🎉
Ashley came back strong, I couldn't stop laughing this episode
"I'm fine" ... "It got cold, is the thing"
I think peaks and valleys are a part of my personality. If they don't happen to me, I get bored and create them for myself.
I'm only 3 minutes in and this is now my favorite episode
LOVE you all so much!!!!!❤❤❤