My favorite scene in The Postman was when he comes across Tom Petty and says, "I know you. You're famous." and Tom says, "I was once. Sorta. Kinda. Not any more."
I wanted Tom Petty to pop back up again and be a badass, since I cant remember the details (read the book in 98) but wasn't he playing the character who led the community that allied with the postman and gave them an army capable to fight the Holinists.
@@christopherkowalczyk4405 I do believe so. He was the head of Bridgetown, which should have been very strategic. I think it was the drive of the postal workers under Ford Lincoln Mercury, though, who ultimately brought the country out of the darkness.
I grew up in the area the Book is set (right out by Cheshire, West of Eugene, OR), and had the oddest bit of serendipity while reading the book. I had just been over the hill the character uses to enter Eugene, the day before I read that section of the book, and the day I read the part about the University of Oregon, I was working on the skylights in the building he mentioned (I do commercial glass work). I have always loved the film for its connections, but the book was super close to home. "The Emberverse," series also takes place here.
One of my favorite places. I grew up in Springfield, and had folks all over the Willamette valley. One of the reasons I loved this book, and the Emberverse books :D
I had a similar experience with a book by John Ringo. I was reading the book while attending training in Dahlgren Virginia and I often drive by the National Guard building in nearby Fredericksburg. That building, or at least its location became a pivotal part of the story during it's climactic scene.
@@EpsilonNPC there's different kinds of centrists. Many centrists are just wimps that can't make up their minds. They give all true centists a bad reputation
Man that was beautiful! I have been a mail carrier through the entire pandemic and although our actual post office doesn’t represent this mindset I could definitely see how it could bring hope in a post apocalyptic world. Man, that was just a really good video!
It galls to me think that City Carriers could save us all... us Rural carriers would be left out almost entirely from the so-called battle. Eh, just as well.
Thank you for this video. I was in the minority of those who really enjoyed this movie when it came out. It has been a small reminder of the direction we should be headed, especially the last few years.
In following generation films I've found it's content both entertaining and amusing. This is the first time the content has been moving for me. Bravo Allen for speaking your mind. Please continue to do so. Too easily people sway too far left or right. The pandemic is something that should have brought everybody together. Instead the opposite has occured. But where there are good people there is hope.
Glad you got appreciate this movie,I loved it from day 1 then I bought the DVD 📀. Also Tom Petty did a cameo in there. The fact that renewed communication could heal a fractured isolationist society, was amazing and gives hope that there is a light at the end of this too.
One of my favorite movies, you did well here. Several years ago I unsubscribed because you pissed me off. I have now resubscribed. 2020-2021 has been hell for me lost my job and then my leg. Still recovering, I hope to be back to work asap. You made some good points that a lot of people tend to ignore.
There is a huge population of people who were drawn closer to there immediate family or roommates during this pandemic, circles got smaller but better in quality for a lot of us.
I have assumed that the postal service was one of the first services provided by the federal government. And, it is the most under appreciated and maligned services. An under appreciated, but important, service that is grasped at in near desperation
@@johnwolf2829 I agree...but they have numbers and like most zombie movies, they don't need to be fast, just persistent and soon enough our numbers will be whittled down.
@@kfeltenberger Stop thinking in terms of combat, at least that sort. THEY didn't get there that way... but you are right about one thing; they only feel brave when numbers are on their side. That is why they go around in gangs when they feel Froggy. Organize, for bonds with people you know, and keep in touch. That's the best way to start.
This movie basically inspired a lot of aspects in Fallout New Vegas and alot of the excuses the Postman say's are taken near-verbatim in Fallout 3 as Enclave propaganda.
An interesting detail, perhaps a coincidence, many miss due to a lack of historical knowledge is that IRL the postal service was in fact one of the first federal level institutions in the US, in fact it served as the backbone, impetus of much of the early federal level impact in the western states
One of my favorite films. Yes it is a bit fantastic but as you say reconnecting communities is important. It would be needed help develop trade for rebuilding infrastructure. I thought worked well in the theater. It reflected the establishment of the pony express which was supposed to be similar to the communication network of the Incas.
It’s a corny movie but I love it. The Postman gives people something to believe in. In time belief is all you need to aspire to more. The moment the new American flag is carried into battle always brings me to tears. That and the sight of the young and old people who have pledged their lives to defend the idea of our country.
People are going to react to the first two minutes of this video. Because, as you mentioned "Conflict in opposition" arising in every facet of existence. Be poised.
You are never going to "get" your pre-2020 life back, you will have to TAKE it. Aren't 100 of you brave enough to take on a couple of Karens? (this might be the best Gen Films clip ever) Yes, I remember this movie, and got a big kick out of seeing Tom Petty say "that was all a long time ago" .... (sigh) And honest to god, what good is Rotten Tomatoes except to laugh at these days?
I feel like the film should have ended on a less clear-cut note. Instead of a dramatic final confrontation ending 8n the destruction of the enemy faction, and rebuilding on the United States, the ending should have been more ambiguous, with the Holness weakened, but still around. Bacicaly, a new hope has arisen, but there's still work to be done. Costener's character should have been portrayed as the man who lit the spark, not as some kind of action hero that saves everyone by besting the bad guy in single combat. The ending was too tidy to be relatable.
Furthermore, a postal service does not need any technology other than a map, compass, and maybe a horse. An electrical grid requires coordination everywhere on the grid, and a manufacturing base to add to and repair said grid and electricity consumption. That someone could even conceive to start that high on the technological slope, I assumed, was a joke. In the book, the (first self-aware) computer ran to the end of its batteries, trying to Hari Seldon society back as fast as possible, and repairing the grid was far in the future.
@@Egilhelmson very good points. It seems to me that a postal service of some sort, is a foundational bit of infrastructure. It's a prerequisite for everything else. You must be able to communicate, beyond the horizon.
I was in this movie as an extra and the whole experience was kind of a train wreck. There is one takeaway though…let the leaders fight the war not the warriors.
Interesting interpretation. I always thought it was a lesson about how your actions have consequences and that you should always be the best you you can be 'cause you never know who's watching and what impact your actions could have on them.
Wait I thought Trump was trying to make America great again and AOC was just playing crazy it never really knew what she was talking about? I think this is an excellent video and is definitely your best monologue that I have ever seen. I am heading over to Movie Trading Company to pick up a copy of the postman right now, thank you Alan.
Dam, after everything going on in the world that is testing my love for this country, especially with our debacle in Afghanistan, I needed to hear someone who stills believes in it being that shining city on a hill. Thanks.
I believe that people have sort of lost sight of what the Shining City on the Hill really is. Its shouldn't an empty title we use to pay ourselves on the back, but an affirmation of what we swear to do. It comes with a responsibility and burden that unfortunately has no easy solution that will last forever. To be that city and to be that beacon of democracy is a constant struggle that America has to fight with itself, we are still the great democratic experiment and I for one still believe in it.
Great Video and wonderful message Allen, thank you. I have always loved this movie and have always gotten crap for it. My favorite scene/ quote I have pasted below: General Bethlehem: You see the reason you don't want to die for anything is because you have nothing to die for. That's the difference between you and me. You don't believe in anything. The Postman: I believe in the United States.
Alan not any big messages ... you got it right i got the film straight away ....whats happened to America ..Uk and others its sooooooo truthfu ..l stay Safe Alan ,Neil
I think this is common knowledge nowadays but the critics are charlatans, this movie is awesome and definitely my favorite Post Apocalyptic movie coming just in front of The Book of Eli. Ironically I never even realized this movie was 3 hours long until I heard someone complaining about it on youtube, this is one of those movies like Star Wars that I can just watch again and again. Most post-apocalypse movies seem to take a perverse pleasure in one-upping each other in level of psychotic savagery they can pull off which seems to be a common theme these days, you just need to look at things like Game of Thrones. Humans are sinful fallen creatures and we need to recognize that fact but it doesn't mean we have to revel in it. Post Apocalyptic stories are a great way to show the depravity that man is capable of when he gives in to his darker desires but we are also gifted with free will and are capable of great good also. So a wonderful day to everyone and God Bless.😉
we dont live in a democracy , its a constitutional republic. our founders knew true "democracy" always ends bad with a dictator. The safe guards they put in place in the constitution and the bill of rights were there to restrict the fed government and to stop the majority from imposing their will on the minority. To the founders, freedom and liberty of the INDIVIDUAL was the most important thing. They knew by looking at history that all governments when given too much power go bad.. the very reason for the Bill of rights. especially the first 10 amendments was to protect the people FROM the fed government.
Just remember folks. 2020 in the cyberpunk universe would be way worse than our universe’s year 2021 here. Corporate wars that destroy infrastructures, a huge economic collapse that makes 2008 recession look petty, no social security, 100,000,000 american deaths that makes the Stalin’s and Maos purges look weak in comparison, the Middle East being a wasteland, Colombian drug lords nuking New York City that makes 9/11 look like a topical Tuesday. Rising sea levels that actual sink coastal cities, droughts that make Canada, Alaska and Russia become the new California style bread baskets of the world. But hey. If there’s some pro independent Taiwan supporters out there, Taiwan would be recognized as a country and not a rogue province of PR China.
Costner's character is NOT a postman. He is a bluffer who finds a dead postman and he PRETENDS to be a postman. This pretense causes him inner tension when the people begin to believe in him. He faked it 'til he made it. Classic hero journey.
I always felt that David Brin wrote The Postman 1982 as a direct response to the libertarian bent of Lucifer's Hammer 1977 by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. Each hero group in Lucifer's was a villain in The Postman. Altough they had a surving letter carrier too.
The Courier thing in FNV was probably inspired by this book/movie too
You mean the book
And Death Stranding
My favorite scene in The Postman was when he comes across Tom Petty and says, "I know you. You're famous." and Tom says, "I was once. Sorta. Kinda. Not any more."
I wanted Tom Petty to pop back up again and be a badass, since I cant remember the details (read the book in 98) but wasn't he playing the character who led the community that allied with the postman and gave them an army capable to fight the Holinists.
@@christopherkowalczyk4405 I do believe so. He was the head of Bridgetown, which should have been very strategic.
I think it was the drive of the postal workers under Ford Lincoln Mercury, though, who ultimately brought the country out of the darkness.
The scene where the Postman comes back and snatches the letter from the kid on the gallop was just beautiful. One of my favorite moments in cinema.
i still don't get the hate this film gets
Great video sir…your comments capture the essence of what America or and free country should strive for.
I actually REALLY enjoyed this movie, despite all the hate it got.
Same here.
Ford Lincoln Mercury gets me every time 😂
Bravo man, bravo. I can tell that was from the heart. Loved it!
I grew up in the area the Book is set (right out by Cheshire, West of Eugene, OR), and had the oddest bit of serendipity while reading the book. I had just been over the hill the character uses to enter Eugene, the day before I read that section of the book, and the day I read the part about the University of Oregon, I was working on the skylights in the building he mentioned (I do commercial glass work). I have always loved the film for its connections, but the book was super close to home. "The Emberverse," series also takes place here.
One of my favorite places. I grew up in Springfield, and had folks all over the Willamette valley. One of the reasons I loved this book, and the Emberverse books :D
I had a similar experience with a book by John Ringo. I was reading the book while attending training in Dahlgren Virginia and I often drive by the National Guard building in nearby Fredericksburg. That building, or at least its location became a pivotal part of the story during it's climactic scene.
This is the kind of hope-filled centrist content we need more of. Thanks Allan.
weird how centrist has become such a hated word in US politics.
@@EpsilonNPC there's different kinds of centrists. Many centrists are just wimps that can't make up their minds. They give all true centists a bad reputation
A centrists in the us is a rightwing in the other countries in the west.
Thank you Alan. As always, your writing and passion for the topic is a salve in these troubled times.
I love your thoughtful in-depth analysis.
Man that was beautiful! I have been a mail carrier through the entire pandemic and although our actual post office doesn’t represent this mindset I could definitely see how it could bring hope in a post apocalyptic world. Man, that was just a really good video!
It galls to me think that City Carriers could save us all... us Rural carriers would be left out almost entirely from the so-called battle.
Eh, just as well.
@@Deridus Rural carriers march to the beat of their own drum lol.
@@bradleycombs2626 I resemble that remark.
Still, you guys help keep the fabric of society together. Thank you.
Great analogy. Some of your best work.
One of your best videos, Allen.
This was an Amazing Video. Thank You.
Thank you for this video. I was in the minority of those who really enjoyed this movie when it came out. It has been a small reminder of the direction we should be headed, especially the last few years.
In following generation films I've found it's content both entertaining and amusing. This is the first time the content has been moving for me. Bravo Allen for speaking your mind. Please continue to do so. Too easily people sway too far left or right. The pandemic is something that should have brought everybody together. Instead the opposite has occured. But where there are good people there is hope.
Fun fact:
The USPS is the ONLY mail carrier for the USA that will deliver in a war or disaster zone.
I so needed this video today.
Glad you got appreciate this movie,I loved it from day 1 then I bought the DVD 📀. Also Tom Petty did a cameo in there. The fact that renewed communication could heal a fractured isolationist society, was amazing and gives hope that there is a light at the end of this too.
I love these videos. The allegories are really good.
Allan you are my favorite civics professor
Thanks for a well thought out video.
One of my favorite movies, you did well here. Several years ago I unsubscribed because you pissed me off. I have now resubscribed. 2020-2021 has been hell for me lost my job and then my leg. Still recovering, I hope to be back to work asap. You made some good points that a lot of people tend to ignore.
Thank you for this, Allen. This is why I call you God-Emperor Allen Xie. You cut to the quick of a problem. Thank you again.
There is a huge population of people who were drawn closer to there immediate family or roommates during this pandemic, circles got smaller but better in quality for a lot of us.
Facebook Messenger has been awesome for this purpose
I have assumed that the postal service was one of the first services provided by the federal government. And, it is the most under appreciated and maligned services.
An under appreciated, but important, service that is grasped at in near desperation
"It's easy to be a saint when you k ow where your next meal is coming from." Commander Benjamin Sisko.
damm cardies....
Best opening monologue I've heard in years.
One good thing about all this; it has given people a lot of time to think.
But now is the time to act, if anyone wants their lives back, that is.
@@johnwolf2829 Completely agree. Sadly, I think too many are going to take a knee and do nothing except beg for more boot on the neck.
@@kfeltenberger Such creatures are worthless, go 'round them and keep on going.
@@johnwolf2829 I agree...but they have numbers and like most zombie movies, they don't need to be fast, just persistent and soon enough our numbers will be whittled down.
@@kfeltenberger Stop thinking in terms of combat, at least that sort.
THEY didn't get there that way... but you are right about one thing; they only feel brave when numbers are on their side. That is why they go around in gangs when they feel Froggy.
Organize, for bonds with people you know, and keep in touch.
That's the best way to start.
This is very serendipitous, I was just currently watching a Kevin Costner movie, The Good Father when I got my notification from this video. 👍🏾
Haven’t seen it in a while but I remember it being a good movie.
Unlike a lot of people, I did most things with friends online beforehand, and was thus more social during the pandemic than before
Hehe yeah I found out I wasn’t really an introvert after the pandemic
Well said sir, well said.
"Stuff is getting better. Stuff is getting better everyday"
Damn that was good. Run for office, we could use more people in the center that can help everyone.
This movie basically inspired a lot of aspects in Fallout New Vegas and alot of the excuses the Postman say's are taken near-verbatim in Fallout 3 as Enclave propaganda.
An interesting detail, perhaps a coincidence, many miss due to a lack of historical knowledge is that IRL the postal service was in fact one of the first federal level institutions in the US, in fact it served as the backbone, impetus of much of the early federal level impact in the western states
Awesome monologue
Great video! You've made me reconsider that movie. I guess sometimes you need a pandemic to put things in perspective.
One of my favorite films. Yes it is a bit fantastic but as you say reconnecting communities is important. It would be needed help develop trade for rebuilding infrastructure. I thought worked well in the theater. It reflected the establishment of the pony express which was supposed to be similar to the communication network of the Incas.
The Postman is one of my favorite post-apocalyptic movies. Kostner did a good job with this one.
The book is excellent. David Brin is an outstanding author and i enjoyed the book long before the movie was made.
Excellent take, something to think about. Movie was good.
Ahhh this is where Kojima got the idea for death stranding
It’s a corny movie but I love it.
The Postman gives people something to believe in. In time belief is all you need to aspire to more.
The moment the new American flag is carried into battle always brings me to tears. That and the sight of the young and old people who have pledged their lives to defend the idea of our country.
Great vid!!! Thanks! Nice to know there’s still some normal out there!
People are going to react to the first two minutes of this video. Because, as you mentioned "Conflict in opposition" arising in every facet of existence.
Be poised.
I am just thankful for Kevin Costner being the actor he is, without him I would rarely sleep due to chronic insomnia.
Go to bed four (4) hours earlier. You won’t, and you’ll argue, but that’ll do the trick.
You are never going to "get" your pre-2020 life back, you will have to TAKE it. Aren't 100 of you brave enough to take on a couple of Karens?
(this might be the best Gen Films clip ever)
Yes, I remember this movie, and got a big kick out of seeing Tom Petty say "that was all a long time ago" .... (sigh)
And honest to god, what good is Rotten Tomatoes except to laugh at these days?
A movie about hope & connection
Life sometimes changes our point of view of a movie.
Thank you for using your earning to learn more about the whole wide world.
You guys should do a video of the most powerful human empires
I feel like the film should have ended on a less clear-cut note. Instead of a dramatic final confrontation ending 8n the destruction of the enemy faction, and rebuilding on the United States, the ending should have been more ambiguous, with the Holness weakened, but still around. Bacicaly, a new hope has arisen, but there's still work to be done. Costener's character should have been portrayed as the man who lit the spark, not as some kind of action hero that saves everyone by besting the bad guy in single combat. The ending was too tidy to be relatable.
Wait hold on a sec... Is this the inspirations for Death Stranding then??!
Kojima stealing successful ideas? Noooo, he would neeveeer do that.
"Wait, it's all Kevin Costner?"
::draws envelope::
"Always has been."
I believe that movie is great . I watch kid small things can be bigger
Two Couriers Fighting Beneath An Old World Flag.
I've enjoyed many of David Brin's books.
good job
A postal service would be more important than electricity. You need to be able to communicate with other communities.
Furthermore, a postal service does not need any technology other than a map, compass, and maybe a horse.
An electrical grid requires coordination everywhere on the grid, and a manufacturing base to add to and repair said grid and electricity consumption.
That someone could even conceive to start that high on the technological slope, I assumed, was a joke. In the book, the (first self-aware) computer ran to the end of its batteries, trying to Hari Seldon society back as fast as possible, and repairing the grid was far in the future.
@@Egilhelmson very good points. It seems to me that a postal service of some sort, is a foundational bit of infrastructure. It's a prerequisite for everything else. You must be able to communicate, beyond the horizon.
Yoo I been telling everyone I can tell for the last 12 years that they need to see this movie this what we have to look forward to frfr
I've always admired since seeing this as a kid the scene where the father when faced with betrayal screamed ride postman ride that shit
Postman reminded me of the early stages of the New California Republic.
Amazing.... and Very relevant.
The true hero of the movie was Lincoln Ford Mercury, who single handled made the idea into reality.
Change My Mind
Also Allen. Humanity first! Survive. That’s how we will prevent a dolphin uprising 🐬
I was in this movie as an extra and the whole experience was kind of a train wreck. There is one takeaway though…let the leaders fight the war not the warriors.
I still thought the movie was awesome, watched it as a teen, and I really liked it.
Interesting interpretation. I always thought it was a lesson about how your actions have consequences and that you should always be the best you you can be 'cause you never know who's watching and what impact your actions could have on them.
Good movie/book have mote than one layer of ideas behind it.
Wait I thought Trump was trying to make America great again and AOC was just playing crazy it never really knew what she was talking about? I think this is an excellent video and is definitely your best monologue that I have ever seen. I am heading over to Movie Trading Company to pick up a copy of the postman right now, thank you Alan.
The intro was very true
Dam, after everything going on in the world that is testing my love for this country, especially with our debacle in Afghanistan, I needed to hear someone who stills believes in it being that shining city on a hill. Thanks.
The USA is a bulwark of Arrogance, built on top of the corpses and suffering of the native population and slavery.
@@vgames1543 Feel better now?
@@chrishahn3834 Yes, I do.
@@vgames1543 and so is every single other country on this planet. Get real.
I believe that people have sort of lost sight of what the Shining City on the Hill really is. Its shouldn't an empty title we use to pay ourselves on the back, but an affirmation of what we swear to do. It comes with a responsibility and burden that unfortunately has no easy solution that will last forever. To be that city and to be that beacon of democracy is a constant struggle that America has to fight with itself, we are still the great democratic experiment and I for one still believe in it.
Wonderful episode Alan.....
God this opener……..is jus priceless, everything he said is genuine facts
'Divide and conquer'. Tactic as old as the first empires on Earth. Still works. Always will.
Lincoln Murcery became a CCA LMAO
Don’t know how to express the hope that the video gave me. Thanks Alan, going to work today in a better mind set. Well done.
Love Allan’s social commentary videos
This channel is growing up
8:03 ANAKIN
If my last name was Mercury I would have name oldest Ford Lincoln Mercury.
I absolutely applaud you for the awesome video and the movies similarities it shares with today's world. Looking forward to the next one! Stay safe.
Great video.
Great Video and wonderful message Allen, thank you. I have always loved this movie and have always gotten crap for it. My favorite scene/ quote I have pasted below:
General Bethlehem:
You see the reason you don't want to die for anything is because you have nothing to die for. That's the difference between you and me. You don't believe in anything.
The Postman:
I believe in the United States.
Alan not any big messages ... you got it right i got the film straight away ....whats happened to America ..Uk and others its sooooooo truthfu ..l stay Safe Alan ,Neil
I think this is common knowledge nowadays but the critics are charlatans, this movie is awesome and definitely my favorite Post Apocalyptic movie coming just in front of The Book of Eli.
Ironically I never even realized this movie was 3 hours long until I heard someone complaining about it on youtube, this is one of those movies like Star Wars that I can just watch again and again.
Most post-apocalypse movies seem to take a perverse pleasure in one-upping each other in level of psychotic savagery they can pull off which seems to be a common theme these days, you just need to look at things like Game of Thrones. Humans are sinful fallen creatures and we need to recognize that fact but it doesn't mean we have to revel in it. Post Apocalyptic stories are a great way to show the depravity that man is capable of when he gives in to his darker desires but we are also gifted with free will and are capable of great good also. So a wonderful day to everyone and God Bless.😉
Then the water started to rise.
we dont live in a democracy , its a constitutional republic. our founders knew true "democracy" always ends bad with a dictator. The safe guards they put in place in the constitution and the bill of rights were there to restrict the fed government and to stop the majority from imposing their will on the minority. To the founders, freedom and liberty of the INDIVIDUAL was the most important thing. They knew by looking at history that all governments when given too much power go bad.. the very reason for the Bill of rights. especially the first 10 amendments was to protect the people FROM the fed government.
Well said Alan Well fuckin said 😊😊😊
as is usually so the Book was whole factors better than the Movie.
No, not really. They were both pretty bad.
Well said!
Just remember folks. 2020 in the cyberpunk universe would be way worse than our universe’s year 2021 here. Corporate wars that destroy infrastructures, a huge economic collapse that makes 2008 recession look petty, no social security, 100,000,000 american deaths that makes the Stalin’s and Maos purges look weak in comparison, the Middle East being a wasteland, Colombian drug lords nuking New York City that makes 9/11 look like a topical Tuesday. Rising sea levels that actual sink coastal cities, droughts that make Canada, Alaska and Russia become the new California style bread baskets of the world. But hey. If there’s some pro independent Taiwan supporters out there, Taiwan would be recognized as a country and not a rogue province of PR China.
Read the book - the film doesn't really do it justice. And, the end of the film, if I remember correctly, is more up beat than the book.
I did enjoy the book more than the movie, but I usually do.
Damn good vid. I wish all Americans could see this. Thanks, Allen.
Best video...
ooh Fallout IRL
Gork and mork
Well done sir
Costner's character is NOT a postman. He is a bluffer who finds a dead postman and he PRETENDS to be a postman. This pretense causes him inner tension when the people begin to believe in him. He faked it 'til he made it. Classic hero journey.
It’s very optimistic, but america has never been accepting of all peoples. Jim Crow, native genocide, Japanese internment etc.
I always felt that David Brin wrote The Postman 1982 as a direct response to the libertarian bent of Lucifer's Hammer 1977 by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. Each hero group in Lucifer's was a villain in The Postman. Altough they had a surving letter carrier too.
sounds like this movie should have A revival as a cult classic
Great vid Alan. If I could like it more I would.
Fantastic video and agree with every word