I'm a mountain rescue volunteer, and I think you did pretty much everything right. You had beacons, you knew how to use them, you zeroed in on his location quickly, and you dug him out fast. Bravo, mates.
Ive never experienced and avalanche. But I have a buddy who back country skis and him telling me about the time they had to rescue a buddy. They found him quick because a little of his board was sticking out. But he took off his gloves to put the shovel together and eventually he couldnt dig anymore his hands were to cold to grip it. Luckily there was 2 other people and they got him out
Is this true? because i counted a lot of time where he wasn't shoveling and he wasnt very quick to uncover mans face so he could breathe.... Still did so much right considering how hard it can be to remember everything under pressure but was a big ? for me watching the video
I don't know what is the safety standard in France but in Canada that would be unacceptable. The guy started to shovel with his hands without even probing before. Probably because he didn't have any of these with him as he asked the other people if they had a probe and shovel. And then only one guy digging while others are looking... What a joke... The guy is lucky he wasn't buried 2.5 meters deep or he would be dead
How can you say that? He is literally panicking and headlessly running around for 2.5 minutes doing nothing but screaming. Also saw lots of hand digging for several minutes before a shovel even entered the rescue. You sure you mountain rescue mate?
One thing i will add is as you knew there was only one person buried, once located and partially visible, switch your beacons always back to transmit. We got hit by a secondary once as we were digging the person out. Luckily was just some "hang fire" and not a big slab. Great video of a rescue and glad the victim was ok.
@@cmdmd couple days ago 2 guys were buried in Van/Turkey. 40 turkish soldiers came for help, but a second avalanche hit all of them also. Everyone died, so sad!
As a reckless uk back country snowboarder with no training or avi gear this is absolutely terrifying. Buried deep on a relatively shallow face and completely lost without the beacon despite his mate watching it happen. This video has changed my attitude big time. Thanks for posting.
@@henryburton6529 snowboarding backcountry alone is a death trap What if you fell head first into pow? Not even avalanche. Fully visible above ground with your board and legs in the air?
That's amazing, you couldn't even tell just by looking that there was actually somebody under the snow. I can imagine how heavy all that snow and people walking on you.
He totally sensed it no problem, and the reaction was just proper mint and super wholesome when they found him. Very heart warming to see how much they cared
This is a great post to show how a rescue may happen in real-time. I appreciate you sharing this as it will teach us many things. A few times, we'll do avalanche rescue simulations and it's amazing how many mistakes even experience backcountry skiers will make. Easy to play "armchair quarterback" but good to see how this all works in reality.
Biggest mistake is being in the terrain and not having the basic gear... Beacon, shovel and a probe are only three of the basic tools but people should not be out in avy terrain without those 3 at a minimum. These guys got VERY lucky.
Great way to put it! I wanted to comment on mistakes, but then I see how many happen even with LOTS of practice to us. Just maybe they should have made looking for secondaries a first step, not last. Great job though guys!
Dude had neither a shovel nor a probe...If those guys below didn't have the shovel this could have been much worse. Too many people riding back country with just a beacon. That's only ONE piece of the vital equipment. Great to see no one got hurt this time.
@F .A The send out a signal so that in the case you get buried other people with beacons or rescue helicopters can track you down. Remember avalanche areas can be pretty huge, trying to find a person without a beacon can take many days, or even weeks in extreme cases.
I was having a free ride lesson today and i only had a dva. All the time i was just thinking what would happen if my teacher would have gotten into an avalanche
@F .A They send or receive a radio beacon and an audio signal based on how close you are to the transmitter (fallen person). You have to get close before you get any signal. The deeper they are, the closer you must get before you hear anything, so always be aware of your partners track, & look for other evidence of their possible location. Think ahead. Take a course. Think again.
Thank you for sharing. What an incredible lesson to share for others to learn from. I hope this makes every skier who watches more mindful and more careful of their actions. Wow! You are both very lucky.
I found this incredibly emotional to watch; the bonds we share with our companions in the mountains are strong. I’m glad you had such a positive outcome. Well done on staying relatively calm and following rescue procedure - I’m sure it wasn’t easy at the time, given the circumstances. One question: was he able to consciously make an airspace during or immediately after burial, or was he just lucky to find himself with one?
Robin Taggart while he was asking if he could hear him further into his yelling you could hear his voice getting shakier and more panicked that’s what made me feel the emotion of the guy looking
In general you are not able to move your arms, in rare cases people have managed to stay in a fetus like position. You can feel like you are doing an air pocket by moving your head, but it does not change anything, as when you breath you inhale the oxygen in the surrounding non compacted snow anyway. He was lucky the avalanche was able to spread wide and he was not deep. My father who is a mountain guide was cought in one and was 2m deep (he is OK), when the person freed his head and arm, he tried to pull a mic attached to a cable/wire to call for help, the snow was so compact he could not even pull the mic (to tell you to what extend you can't move)...
Wow - I have tears I'm my eyes. I was swept down by an avalanche in Washington State at Granite Peak. But somehow I stayed on top of the rolling ice blocks. Scary!
The terror. You don't ever want to know that feeling. The fear was felt by both victim and rescuing friend. Powerful stuff right here. Dennis was unhurt, conscious, and helpless to save himself. This should be viewed by everyone who has to deal with snow.
@@roykale9141 they can. 20 minutes is generally what avalanche safety courses teach as “the point of no return”. Obviously still dig them out if it’s been over 20 minutes, but do whatever you can to get them out before the 20 minute mark
Blimey - we'd been there a few weeks before, and risked solo off piste. SO lucky to have the right equipment, other people close by, and one very determined, clear-headed, resourceful, brave friend. Classic line - "Thankyous are for later, first we get you out of here"!
You guys are awesome! Great rescue!! Couldn’t have gone better under the circumstances!!! Well done! 👍🚨 I’m sure everyone sitting behind their computer screens have a better plan but .... eh..,, great work!
Very well done, so many things done right. You did very well in an extremely high stress situation and saved his life. There’s always mistakes and improvements but the outcome is the bottomline. 🙏
Good video to learn from because a simple looking snow slide can certainly bury a person. This looks like a difficult situation that could have ended badly. Good safety equipment was available and used effectively.
Technology working at its best ...which is great ....however a basic tool like the shovel should never be under stated in this type of rescue ....well done and great outcome 👍
Thank you for sharing the video for saving life. A clear message to all skiers for real danger for skiing off-pisted without proper training and equipment!!! By the way, the victim seems already carried the avalanche backpacker at his back, but looks like never inflated, any clues?
Even if he had an airbag he needs to pull the cord in order to get it going. In this case he crashed and got buried immediately without the chance of reacting to the avalanche.
You always have 'shovels'. Hands, boots, skis, pack, helmet, anchors, ... maybe even a shovel. Heated snow from an avalanche can set pretty hard in mere seconds (same process as under a skater's blade). Think ahead. Take a class. Think again.
Luckily in EU people either have the full avalanche set or don't have it at all. Avalanche control in the US would just put ropes for dangerous off-piste slopes so I understand why americans don't carry it. However, I don't understand whats the logic behind carrying just the tranceiver? It's useless if everyone carry just the tranceivers. Many hate to carry backpack full of equipment but its super essential.
TnA jamais été dans se genre de situation. Mais selon moi sa se comparerait à se mettre la tête dans un oreiller. tu respires au debut mais sa se dégrade au file du temp avec l’humidité que tu expires qui créera une couche de neige plus épaise sur ton visage et te suffoqueras.
Sans apporter de jugement, j'aimerais connaître le risque du BRA , les chutes récentes , la hauteur de neige fraiche et le degré de pente ? C'est toujours utile d'analyser le risque à posteriori. Merci pour la vidéo.
Pour une analyse complète de cet accident, nous te conseillons de jeter un oeil à l'article réalisé avec Skipass et l'Anena : www.skipass.com/news/118225-avalanche-analyse-de-cas-chatel-2.html En espérant que ces infos permettront d'éviter de futurs accidents.
C’était une petite avalanche, mais tout de même dangereuse. Erreurs ou pas, vous aviez tout ce qu’il fallait ; premièrement, des copains tout proche et puis des secouristes providentiels ! Je souhaite que toutes les victimes aient la même chance !
Il manquait au gars son téléphone portable puisqu'il demande aux autres d'appeler le 112. Et pour le gars sous la neige 1 sifflet.. si tant est qu'il eût pu l'attraper.
Great job saving your friend but telling everyone trying to help to back away and move away when they were helping to dig was kind of douchy. Your cries for help were answered and shovels brought..probe..112 called. Dennis tried to show gratitude to those who came to help and you hushed him. Lol. Anytime is a good time to be thankful to be alive Sir! With all due respect. And to be thankful to your rescuers. You may have wanted the solo props but the love goes to all involved. You...did fantastic as a friend tho!
Desperate situations calls for taking extra measures. I take it you have worked with people in panic and/or avalanches before. Or are you simply going on emotion like most other people today?
imagine worrying about being "kind of douchy" when your friends life is on the line. If those people were digging with their hands he could not use the shovel
@@xandermohan6331 dangerously false. Anything above 30 degrees is considered avalanche terrain. 25-30 can slide under extreme conditions. That said, 30 degrees is probably steeper than you think.
At 2:21 you can hear the rescuer turn his beacon ON not just to search but to ON. If he was buried there would be little hope. A relatively small area like that turns into a huge area with no signal. Tell me if im wrong.
He turns it on (should have been on anyway) because he first has to ride a sketchy bit to get to his buddy. If he gets buried too, he also wants to be found. Modern beacons can search for victims with multiple signals.
It is possible, considering how panicked he was, that he inadvertently turned it off instead of switching to search first. However I’d say it’s just as likely he was turning it on for the first time that day too.
Hi @Ben Muise , Colin (the rescuer) had his beacon turned on all along. The mistake he made before beginning the rescue was to set it to the rescue mode before droping the cliff and being on the accident's location. If another slab was triggered by him while he was riding to the first avalanche it could have been a problem.
Are we using the airbags now? This guy was lucky to walk out of there thanks to his buddy and doing the best it could be done for the situation.....but that is not always the case.
This is amazing!!! When I was 22 a group of us decided to lift a rope and sign that said “warning avalanche area” and ski that avalanche area ... for the powder. What idiots we were! Lucky to be alive. All young skiers need to see this!
Even though snow is porous, carbon dioxide builds up over time. It's a matter of minutes, not hours. Survivability is above 90% after 15 mins, but drops drastically after that. 20mins survival time is what we focus on in our local SAR team.
When the avalanche starts the snow actually heats up slightly from the friction. As soon as it settles the snow has added moisture and becomes iced up and incredibly heavy. This wasn't even a crazy slide but still could have been fatal.
@@fugginrambo Well i do not believe fiction would cause that, as the fiction coefficient between ice ice crystals at angles above 30 degrees is quite low Its more to do with the fact that 1x1m of water weighs a litteral metric tonne In cases of snow, this would be about 500-700kg depending on packing factor I cant lift 500kgs Not can you Avalanches weigh a lot
avalanche de plaque, comme ça peut t'enfoncer c'est impressionnant. Dans ces cas là, lâcher les bâtons, (voila pourquoi je ne mets jamais les sangles quand je descend ce genre d'endroit) pour ne pas être gêné pour directement mettre ses mains au niveau de la bouche pour qu'une fois immobilisé, on puisse former une poche d'air et attendre les secours.
Facile à dire, plus dur à faire. Les mais peuvent servir pendant la coulée pour essayer de se maintenir en surface mais il est impossible de garder ses mains sur sa bouche. Sinon le reste est plutôt vrai
les 3 anges de la mort: pente de plus de 30 degrés, danger marqué, pente orienté nord. J'aurais bien aimé savoir s'ils réunissaient ces 3 caractéristiques pour s'aventurer ici
Tu as toutes les réponses sur le post FB. La pente est de 28° et l'orientation ouest, si je me souviens bien, mais tu peux aller voir (c’est dans la description).
En plus, il y'a plein de plaque à vent qui pointe vers où il se dirigeait. De la minute qu'il drop dans la creux de la pente concave ( le dépôt ) l'avalanche se déclenche ! Tout y était .... pour que ça se déclenche
thank god they had peeps.....or that guy would be done, ...............what a god awful way to die man...........I spent years in the mountains and fortunately, I never was buried, a few scares but I was always cautious as hell man......we always dug pits and examined the layers on questionable terrain and we always carrieds peeps , shovels, and probes when in the back country......
Did he study a list of all the worst possible things to do riding anything steeper than 30° in the Backcountry? Especially if it snowed within 24 hours. Let the snow set kids, or youll get buried alive, cant imagine a worse way to go myself. Thankful dude got out alive that was getting close. I got taken out by a tiny little slide, knee high but we were riding a steep, open face the thing was haul assin'. Took me smooth off my feet like nothing and sent me into the tree line. Broken board, ribs, sternum, and ego. Ride safe my sisters and brothers.
Haha one man with a shovel and 3 on the look out for a second wave until hes almost unburied?.?..?.. haha with friends like that, he's lucky to be alive!
Scary shit! That’s why I never go off piste without my avalanche Air Backpack! Includes all vital safety equipment and Avalanche Airbag it creates a barrier around your upper back, Neck, shoulders and head if it’s activated! You can do it manually or it will auto deploy when experience a certain force and pressure to the system! 9 out of 10 times it will force you on top of the available and prevent you from being buried! And if you are buried it creates a good pocket for air.
was cursing at the screen... wheres your (*&*% probe?? wheres your probe??? then no shovel. Good god. At least you knew your beacon. Anyway, thanks for posting. Glad everyones ok
Si tu regardes bien sur la video de la personne qui le suit on voit que c'est bien l'avalanche qui le fait tomber parce que la neige se dérobe en dessous de lui, on le voit légèrement aussi a 1:03 1:04
bien joue ! Qand on voit sa sa calme directe l'envie de fair du hors piste !!! Voilas a cois sert l'arvat ,pelle .... je essepere que ton collegue va bien ?
Le Recco ne sert pas à grand chose, seuls les secours peuvent trouver une personne avec le Recco, ils arriveront trop tard. Les randonneurs ne s'équipent pas de Recco.
@@mathiasroy9364 Faut pas oublié que c'est un ensemble d'objets arva plus pelle qui lui sauve la vie, parce que son pote qui viens l'aider sans pelle il aurait gardé un autre souvenir de cette sortie si il n'y avait pas eu les randonneurs pour lui fournir une pelle. Arva, pelle et sonde.
Bonjour joséphine. L'endroit où se produit l'avalanche est en dehors des pistes donc il n'y a pas d'ouverture ou de fermeture. Toute la statin était sécurisée et ouverte ce jour là, il n'y avait aucun risque sur les pistes. Là où nous étions oui, comme le montre la vidéo malheureusement
Ce qui me choc c'est qu'il y en a qu'un qui a l'air d'être actif dans la recherche et lorsqu'il se met à creuser c'est le seul, entouré par trois spectateur ! il est carrément obligé de leur demander de l'aide à la fin pour qu'ils l'aident à le sortir, consternant.
Bonjour Florian, Ces "spectateurs" sont de simples témoins de l'accident... Ils sont partis tous ensemble avant nous un peu plus loin sur la face et aucun n'était équipé du matériel de sécurité de base. Ils n'étaient pas prêt pour ce genre de situation et ne savait pas comment réagir. Heureusement que ce n'était pas eux en dessous... Cependant, nous les remercions car ils n'ont pas paniqué et nous ont bien aidé en appelant les secours et en commençant à creuser.
Never saw an avalanche like that- on what was the flat run out part. Dude got gobbled up and gone from view instantly. Too few of the guys in the video here wearing helmets. Incredibly stupid to not protect one's brain. Nobody should head out without one.
I'm a mountain rescue volunteer, and I think you did pretty much everything right. You had beacons, you knew how to use them, you zeroed in on his location quickly, and you dug him out fast. Bravo, mates.
Ive never experienced and avalanche. But I have a buddy who back country skis and him telling me about the time they had to rescue a buddy. They found him quick because a little of his board was sticking out. But he took off his gloves to put the shovel together and eventually he couldnt dig anymore his hands were to cold to grip it. Luckily there was 2 other people and they got him out
Is this true? because i counted a lot of time where he wasn't shoveling and he wasnt very quick to uncover mans face so he could breathe....
Still did so much right considering how hard it can be to remember everything under pressure but was a big ? for me watching the video
I don't know what is the safety standard in France but in Canada that would be unacceptable. The guy started to shovel with his hands without even probing before. Probably because he didn't have any of these with him as he asked the other people if they had a probe and shovel. And then only one guy digging while others are looking... What a joke... The guy is lucky he wasn't buried 2.5 meters deep or he would be dead
How can you say that? He is literally panicking and headlessly running around for 2.5 minutes doing nothing but screaming. Also saw lots of hand digging for several minutes before a shovel even entered the rescue. You sure you mountain rescue mate?
One thing i will add is as you knew there was only one person buried, once located and partially visible, switch your beacons always back to transmit. We got hit by a secondary once as we were digging the person out. Luckily was just some "hang fire" and not a big slab.
Great video of a rescue and glad the victim was ok.
Many transceivers turn back to transmit when you don't move for a while
Correct.
@@cmdmd couple days ago 2 guys were buried in Van/Turkey. 40 turkish soldiers came for help, but a second avalanche hit all of them also. Everyone died, so sad!
Thank GOD for those beacons, he was completely buried. You saved his life.
Frode Grunsvold yes they are nice! Nice people and beacons ❤️
No.. Literally, thank the inventor.. god did not invent those..
The beacons are lit...
@Danny Dolan blessings are a myth
@@lil-link oh just stfu lmao
Figure of speech bud grow up
As a reckless uk back country snowboarder with no training or avi gear this is absolutely terrifying.
Buried deep on a relatively shallow face and completely lost without the beacon despite his mate watching it happen.
This video has changed my attitude big time. Thanks for posting.
Worst thing. I often snowboard alone....😬
@@henryburton6529 snowboarding backcountry alone is a death trap
What if you fell head first into pow?
Not even avalanche. Fully visible above ground with your board and legs in the air?
pfhrmb I know I have a child now so just off the edge of the piste from now on
That's amazing, you couldn't even tell just by looking that there was actually somebody under the snow. I can imagine how heavy all that snow and people walking on you.
Can we talk about the "send for a friend" 2:37
He totally sensed it no problem, and the reaction was just proper mint and super wholesome when they found him. Very heart warming to see how much they cared
Agreed on all accounts. Good friend
He knew he might trigger a second slide, and get buried himself. He also knew there was no time to do anything else. A friend, indeed.
@@josephastier7421 +1
"send for a friend" thats awsome lol, but also so serious... I'm so glad it worked out... good job getting out guys!
This is a great post to show how a rescue may happen in real-time. I appreciate you sharing this as it will teach us many things. A few times, we'll do avalanche rescue simulations and it's amazing how many mistakes even experience backcountry skiers will make. Easy to play "armchair quarterback" but good to see how this all works in reality.
Biggest mistake is being in the terrain and not having the basic gear... Beacon, shovel and a probe are only three of the basic tools but people should not be out in avy terrain without those 3 at a minimum. These guys got VERY lucky.
Great way to put it! I wanted to comment on mistakes, but then I see how many happen even with LOTS of practice to us. Just maybe they should have made looking for secondaries a first step, not last. Great job though guys!
Wow! Thanks for sharing. That is a real wake up call for any backcountry skiiers
Dude had neither a shovel nor a probe...If those guys below didn't have the shovel this could have been much worse. Too many people riding back country with just a beacon. That's only ONE piece of the vital equipment. Great to see no one got hurt this time.
@F .A The send out a signal so that in the case you get buried other people with beacons or rescue helicopters can track you down.
Remember avalanche areas can be pretty huge, trying to find a person without a beacon can take many days, or even weeks in extreme cases.
He did have probe and shovel the guys that came up from below had no equipment. Both he and victim had full kit.
Yep people are stupid. Let em learn the hard way
I was having a free ride lesson today and i only had a dva. All the time i was just thinking what would happen if my teacher would have gotten into an avalanche
@F .A They send or receive a radio beacon and an audio signal based on how close you are to the transmitter (fallen person). You have to get close before you get any signal. The deeper they are, the closer you must get before you hear anything, so always be aware of your partners track, & look for other evidence of their possible location. Think ahead. Take a course. Think again.
Thank you for sharing. What an incredible lesson to share for others to learn from. I hope this makes every skier who watches more mindful and more careful of their actions.
Wow! You are both very lucky.
@@paologallardo8869 Don't get too excited, Recco is only good for finding your dead body.......and a beacon isnt any good without a shovel :)
This must have been terrifying for both of you. Thank you for sharing.
I found this incredibly emotional to watch; the bonds we share with our companions in the mountains are strong. I’m glad you had such a positive outcome. Well done on staying relatively calm and following rescue procedure - I’m sure it wasn’t easy at the time, given the circumstances.
One question: was he able to consciously make an airspace during or immediately after burial, or was he just lucky to find himself with one?
Robin Taggart while he was asking if he could hear him further into his yelling you could hear his voice getting shakier and more panicked that’s what made me feel the emotion of the guy looking
In general you are not able to move your arms, in rare cases people have managed to stay in a fetus like position. You can feel like you are doing an air pocket by moving your head, but it does not change anything, as when you breath you inhale the oxygen in the surrounding non compacted snow anyway. He was lucky the avalanche was able to spread wide and he was not deep. My father who is a mountain guide was cought in one and was 2m deep (he is OK), when the person freed his head and arm, he tried to pull a mic attached to a cable/wire to call for help, the snow was so compact he could not even pull the mic (to tell you to what extend you can't move)...
@@alexdubois6585 🤯
MORE SHOVELS CLEAR HIS FACE FIRST NOT THE BOOT
GLAD ALL OK easy to critique from a living room
They didn’t know where his face was and yes I agree everyone should have a shovel while in the backcountry or off piste
Thanks for sharing! All back country skiers should see this!
My biggest respect for uploading this admitting mistakes...
Wow - I have tears I'm my eyes. I was swept down by an avalanche in Washington State at Granite Peak. But somehow I stayed on top of the rolling ice blocks. Scary!
Thanks for sharing. Really demonstrates the importance of knowing how to use your rescue equipment!
The terror. You don't ever want to know that feeling. The fear was felt by both victim and rescuing friend. Powerful stuff right here.
Dennis was unhurt, conscious, and helpless to save himself. This should be viewed by everyone who has to deal with snow.
People can survive over a half an hour in there trapped just waiting for death
@@roykale9141 they can. 20 minutes is generally what avalanche safety courses teach as “the point of no return”. Obviously still dig them out if it’s been over 20 minutes, but do whatever you can to get them out before the 20 minute mark
To clarify, the survival rate if you get an individual out before the 18 minute mark are about 90% I believe, but after 20minutes it drops to like 30
@@wman887 holy sht just 2 more added onto the minutes drops to to 30 percent? Damn.
Blimey - we'd been there a few weeks before, and risked solo off piste. SO lucky to have the right equipment, other people close by, and one very determined, clear-headed, resourceful, brave friend. Classic line - "Thankyous are for later, first we get you out of here"!
Scarriest movie I've seen recently :/
Hearing him scream from under the snow is haunting!
You guys are awesome! Great rescue!! Couldn’t have gone better under the circumstances!!! Well done! 👍🚨
I’m sure everyone sitting behind their computer screens have a better plan but .... eh..,, great work!
yes, absolut right. The men did it very well!
Very educational video, thank you for sharing and so glad all ok.
Jeez that was scary! So glad you found your mate! Life would be awful if you'd lost him.
Very well done, so many things done right. You did very well in an extremely high stress situation and saved his life. There’s always mistakes and improvements but the outcome is the bottomline. 🙏
Looks hard to figure out where without beacon
It's just impossible if it's completely buried
@@jacopoparavano Well
Impossible to find the person alive atleast
It saved his life. Fortunately the others arrived with probe and shovel, but without that beacon they would never have found him in time.
@@josephastier7421 Aye, death sets on early, after 20 minutes something like 1/10 (a tad more) have died
I’m no expert and I’m sitting in my armchair but the snowpack doesn’t look right from 0:18 in ?
Wow... what a slide.
Great video.
Comment on dit?...Chanceux!? Belle attitude de ride les gars et bonne réaction.
Glad, he's alive and safe! Don't like to see tragedy in the end.
Good video to learn from because a simple looking snow slide can certainly bury a person. This looks like a difficult situation that could have ended badly. Good safety equipment was available and used effectively.
Except the guy had neither a shovel nor a probe. It's the guys who walked up from below who lent him the shovel...
Was fighting back tears the whole time he was yelling for Dennis. Lost it when Dennis started speaking.
Very heartwarming
Jesus man - thanks for sharing. The dude in the white stuff was one lucky SOB. Thank God for those other guys with the detector!!!
Technology working at its best ...which is great ....however a basic tool like the shovel should never be under stated in this type of rescue ....well done and great outcome 👍
Thank you for sharing the video for saving life. A clear message to all skiers for real danger for skiing off-pisted without proper training and equipment!!! By the way, the victim seems already carried the avalanche backpacker at his back, but looks like never inflated, any clues?
It's not and airbag compatible bag, so he couldn't inflated it
Even if he had an airbag he needs to pull the cord in order to get it going. In this case he crashed and got buried immediately without the chance of reacting to the avalanche.
Wow!! That's scary. So glad he's OK.
Imagine getting a beacon signal but being unable to dig up your friend because you didn't pack a shovel and probe 🤦♂️
You always have 'shovels'. Hands, boots, skis, pack, helmet, anchors, ... maybe even a shovel. Heated snow from an avalanche can set pretty hard in mere seconds (same process as under a skater's blade). Think ahead. Take a class. Think again.
When I saw those big blocks? Yikes. That kind of slide can bust you up pretty good.
Luckily in EU people either have the full avalanche set or don't have it at all. Avalanche control in the US would just put ropes for dangerous off-piste slopes so I understand why americans don't carry it. However, I don't understand whats the logic behind carrying just the tranceiver? It's useless if everyone carry just the tranceivers. Many hate to carry backpack full of equipment but its super essential.
Also whats up with the chairlift safety bars? Why is no one using them there? Ah... questions questions questions
@@loggiic because you are an idiot if you fall of the lift
on peut respirer combien de temps sous la neige comme ça ?? car 6 min ça me parait énorme deja
TnA jamais été dans se genre de situation. Mais selon moi sa se comparerait à se mettre la tête dans un oreiller. tu respires au debut mais sa se dégrade au file du temp avec l’humidité que tu expires qui créera une couche de neige plus épaise sur ton visage et te suffoqueras.
c’est une mort lente. Horrible
Entre 20 et 30 minutes... Au bout de 10 tu as des hallucinations.
Au bout de 15 minutes, les chances de survie sont réduites de 90%
Sans apporter de jugement, j'aimerais connaître le risque du BRA , les chutes récentes , la hauteur de neige fraiche et le degré de pente ? C'est toujours utile d'analyser le risque à posteriori. Merci pour la vidéo.
Le lien vers le post FB qui raconte ça est dans la description.
Pour une analyse complète de cet accident, nous te conseillons de jeter un oeil à l'article réalisé avec Skipass et l'Anena :
www.skipass.com/news/118225-avalanche-analyse-de-cas-chatel-2.html
En espérant que ces infos permettront d'éviter de futurs accidents.
C’était une petite avalanche, mais tout de même dangereuse. Erreurs ou pas, vous aviez tout ce qu’il fallait ; premièrement, des copains tout proche et puis des secouristes providentiels ! Je souhaite que toutes les victimes aient la même chance !
Il manquait au gars son téléphone portable puisqu'il demande aux autres d'appeler le 112. Et pour le gars sous la neige 1 sifflet.. si tant est qu'il eût pu l'attraper.
Great job saving your friend but telling everyone trying to help to back away and move away when they were helping to dig was kind of douchy. Your cries for help were answered and shovels brought..probe..112 called. Dennis tried to show gratitude to those who came to help and you hushed him. Lol. Anytime is a good time to be thankful to be alive Sir! With all due respect. And to be thankful to your rescuers. You may have wanted the solo props but the love goes to all involved. You...did fantastic as a friend tho!
Desperate situations calls for taking extra measures. I take it you have worked with people in panic and/or avalanches before. Or are you simply going on emotion like most other people today?
It’s called trauma. Imagine two buddies on a battlefield. And he opens by admitting mistakes.
imagine worrying about being "kind of douchy" when your friends life is on the line. If those people were digging with their hands he could not use the shovel
Thank God he is ok, watching this was scary
Il entendait et répondait aux appels au début ?
Bloody hell I assume it's usually much steeper snow that avalanches. Scary stuff.
@@xandermohan6331 dangerously false. Anything above 30 degrees is considered avalanche terrain. 25-30 can slide under extreme conditions. That said, 30 degrees is probably steeper than you think.
@@xandermohan6331 Above 45° human trigger avalanches are rare.
Wow, didnt know that you're not able to move being in a depth where you can still see the light
Snow is very heavy, and once it stops moving it hardens quite a bit
It's just the film the camera gives, the camera processing, in reality the guy sees nothing, only black and not light
When an avalanche stops, the snow hardens instantly. You can be trapped below only a few inches.
At 2:21 you can hear the rescuer turn his beacon ON not just to search but to ON. If he was buried there would be little hope. A relatively small area like that turns into a huge area with no signal. Tell me if im wrong.
He turns it on (should have been on anyway) because he first has to ride a sketchy bit to get to his buddy. If he gets buried too, he also wants to be found. Modern beacons can search for victims with multiple signals.
It is possible, considering how panicked he was, that he inadvertently turned it off instead of switching to search first. However I’d say it’s just as likely he was turning it on for the first time that day too.
Cobbled edging
Hi @Ben Muise , Colin (the rescuer) had his beacon turned on all along. The mistake he made before beginning the rescue was to set it to the rescue mode before droping the cliff and being on the accident's location. If another slab was triggered by him while he was riding to the first avalanche it could have been a problem.
Only one shovel in the whole bunch? What happens if the guy with the shovel gets buried. The other guys stand around posing.
8:30 attention attention c ma gueule là haha
5:30 " youre standing on my crotch!!!! get oooofff!!"
How can you ski in those conditions without a shovel AND airbag?????? Just don’t get it??
Are we using the airbags now? This guy was lucky to walk out of there thanks to his buddy and doing the best it could be done for the situation.....but that is not always the case.
Really emotional , a true friend 😭
This is amazing!!! When I was 22 a group of us decided to lift a rope and sign that said “warning avalanche area” and ski that avalanche area ... for the powder. What idiots we were! Lucky to be alive. All young skiers need to see this!
Glad ur okay stay strong ❤️🙏great friend u have
Damn can you breathe when your under there? From Louisiana so I’ve never even see snow.
Mason W No, snow restricts your ability to breathe hence how dangerous avalanches actually are.
Xander MacDonald they are no doubt dangerous.....
Even though snow is porous, carbon dioxide builds up over time. It's a matter of minutes, not hours. Survivability is above 90% after 15 mins, but drops drastically after that. 20mins survival time is what we focus on in our local SAR team.
When the avalanche starts the snow actually heats up slightly from the friction. As soon as it settles the snow has added moisture and becomes iced up and incredibly heavy. This wasn't even a crazy slide but still could have been fatal.
@@fugginrambo Well i do not believe fiction would cause that, as the fiction coefficient between ice ice crystals at angles above 30 degrees is quite low
Its more to do with the fact that 1x1m of water weighs a litteral metric tonne
In cases of snow, this would be about 500-700kg depending on packing factor
I cant lift 500kgs
Not can you
Avalanches weigh a lot
Du coup c'est quoi le projet odos?
Great job, great rescue 👏🏻🙏🏻
That dude that got saved-he’s buying the drinks tonight...
great job dude!
I had trouble breathing even watching it.. I can imagine how frightening this has been for all...
avalanche de plaque, comme ça peut t'enfoncer c'est impressionnant. Dans ces cas là, lâcher les bâtons, (voila pourquoi je ne mets jamais les sangles quand je descend ce genre d'endroit) pour ne pas être gêné pour directement mettre ses mains au niveau de la bouche pour qu'une fois immobilisé, on puisse former une poche d'air et attendre les secours.
Facile à dire, plus dur à faire. Les mais peuvent servir pendant la coulée pour essayer de se maintenir en surface mais il est impossible de garder ses mains sur sa bouche. Sinon le reste est plutôt vrai
Ne pas mettre les dragonnes a pour but de pouvoir tirer la sangle de son airbag si évidemment on en a un
les 3 anges de la mort: pente de plus de 30 degrés, danger marqué, pente orienté nord. J'aurais bien aimé savoir s'ils réunissaient ces 3 caractéristiques pour s'aventurer ici
Tu as toutes les réponses sur le post FB. La pente est de 28° et l'orientation ouest, si je me souviens bien, mais tu peux aller voir (c’est dans la description).
excuse my ignorance, but "pente orienté nord". So are north facing slopes more inclined to avalanche, or flow (in northern hemisphere)?
@@Timothy_Pitt the sun never bright noth faces in North hemisphere, so the snow stay cold and slopes don't stabilize.
En plus, il y'a plein de plaque à vent qui pointe vers où il se dirigeait. De la minute qu'il drop dans la creux de la pente concave ( le dépôt ) l'avalanche se déclenche ! Tout y était .... pour que ça se déclenche
thank god they had peeps.....or that guy would be done, ...............what a god awful way to die man...........I spent years in the mountains and fortunately, I never was buried, a few scares but I was always cautious as hell man......we always dug pits and examined the layers on questionable terrain and we always carrieds peeps , shovels, and probes when in the back country......
Did he study a list of all the worst possible things to do riding anything steeper than 30° in the Backcountry? Especially if it snowed within 24 hours. Let the snow set kids, or youll get buried alive, cant imagine a worse way to go myself. Thankful dude got out alive that was getting close. I got taken out by a tiny little slide, knee high but we were riding a steep, open face the thing was haul assin'. Took me smooth off my feet like nothing and sent me into the tree line. Broken board, ribs, sternum, and ego. Ride safe my sisters and brothers.
Bon de partager ça ! Pff ca calme direct.
a better love story than twilight.
Haha one man with a shovel and 3 on the look out for a second wave until hes almost unburied?.?..?.. haha with friends like that, he's lucky to be alive!
only one was a friend and that was the guy with the shovel
Great job saving him!
Не сидится дома!
Could be wrong but it looked like the victim had an airbag on... if he did and didn't attempt to deploy it then I am truly lost for words!
He had not actually, this is just a simple mountain/ski bag
I can’t believe how those people could just stand a watch instead of doing some digging
Der Horror!!!
E' stato fortunato. Purtroppo non va sempre così. Prudenza massima nei fuoripista.
Good work guys.
Scary shit!
That’s why I never go off piste without my avalanche Air Backpack!
Includes all vital safety equipment and Avalanche Airbag it creates a barrier around your upper back, Neck, shoulders and head if it’s activated! You can do it manually or it will auto deploy when experience a certain force and pressure to the system!
9 out of 10 times it will force you on top of the available and prevent you from being buried! And if you are buried it creates a good pocket for air.
You can feel the frustration of the rescue .. they came too late, dispute the fact that... They came as fast as they can
Never take your gloves off if you can help it
I can't believe they brought transceivers but not probes or shovels. They said they wanted training, and they got it.
was cursing at the screen... wheres your (*&*% probe?? wheres your probe??? then no shovel. Good god. At least you knew your beacon. Anyway, thanks for posting. Glad everyones ok
You always think "oh I'd be able to dig myself out". Nope. Not in that packed ice
J'ai l'impression que c'est souvent ça le scénario : une avalanche dont on aurait sûrement pu échaper mais on chute et l'Avalanche nous ratrappe
Si tu regardes bien sur la video de la personne qui le suit on voit que c'est bien l'avalanche qui le fait tomber parce que la neige se dérobe en dessous de lui, on le voit légèrement aussi a 1:03 1:04
bien joue ! Qand on voit sa sa calme directe l'envie de fair du hors piste !!!
Voilas a cois sert l'arvat ,pelle ....
je essepere que ton collegue va bien ?
Ben... non, ça ne calme pas l'envie de faire du hors-piste
Повезло Денису, оч. повезло.
I hope it was worth it for Dennis... Go ski everywhere you want....
Sans ARVA et réflecteur RECCO c'est fini ! l'air bag aussi permet de rester en surface et/ou de créer une poche d'air pour les plus chanceux.
La on ne sait pas si il était équipé d'un réflecteur . En tout cas il était équiperd'un arva ça c'est sûr c'est ça qu'il la sauver
Le Recco ne sert pas à grand chose, seuls les secours peuvent trouver une personne avec le Recco, ils arriveront trop tard. Les randonneurs ne s'équipent pas de Recco.
@@mathiasroy9364
Faut pas oublié que c'est un ensemble d'objets arva plus pelle qui lui sauve la vie, parce que son pote qui viens l'aider sans pelle il aurait gardé un autre souvenir de cette sortie si il n'y avait pas eu les randonneurs pour lui fournir une pelle.
Arva, pelle et sonde.
Good job guys
Wow. Just wow.
Imagine not having that beacon..you're fucked. One od the worst ways to die imo..
without a beacon there would have been alot of space to search. Glad it had a happy ending
les pistes n'etaient pas ferme est ce que il yh 1vait un risque
Bonjour joséphine.
L'endroit où se produit l'avalanche est en dehors des pistes donc il n'y a pas d'ouverture ou de fermeture. Toute la statin était sécurisée et ouverte ce jour là, il n'y avait aucun risque sur les pistes. Là où nous étions oui, comme le montre la vidéo malheureusement
Le hors piste est TOUJOURS risqué.
You can be proud of saving Denis's life. But, damn, you did it so slow.
Ce qui me choc c'est qu'il y en a qu'un qui a l'air d'être actif dans la recherche et lorsqu'il se met à creuser c'est le seul, entouré par trois spectateur ! il est carrément obligé de leur demander de l'aide à la fin pour qu'ils l'aident à le sortir, consternant.
Bonjour Florian,
Ces "spectateurs" sont de simples témoins de l'accident... Ils sont partis tous ensemble avant nous un peu plus loin sur la face et aucun n'était équipé du matériel de sécurité de base. Ils n'étaient pas prêt pour ce genre de situation et ne savait pas comment réagir. Heureusement que ce n'était pas eux en dessous...
Cependant, nous les remercions car ils n'ont pas paniqué et nous ont bien aidé en appelant les secours et en commençant à creuser.
Just...wow!!!
Never saw an avalanche like that- on what was the flat run out part. Dude got gobbled up and gone from view instantly. Too few of the guys in the video here wearing helmets. Incredibly stupid to not protect one's brain. Nobody should head out without one.
Pas tres balisée cette piste
glad he got saved
Why is the world so scary?? 😭😭
Ao' ma movete !
What a nightmare.
He just stepped out of his grave.
He already warmed himself up considerably when he shit his pants at the beginning.