@@zjzr08 they dont. Nintendo and TPC make the release dates. That's why pokemon has been on a one year release schedule. The people who own gf make that schedule. Whether its Nintendo or TPC idk, but I'm leaning towards TPC
I am really disappointed that we never got to battle Sonia. It is stated a couple of times that she was Leon’s main rival back in the day. The fact that Leon is one of the strongest trainers in the world indicates that Sonia was probably a really strong trainer too, so I would have LOVED to see more Pokemon she owned, instead of only seeing her with a little Yamper
Sword and Shield feel like they wanted to be fantastic, but low development time and probably mediocre programming kept them from being the very best they could. Swsh put so much emphasis on spectacle that it's hard to believe they didn't at least try their best.
Concepts does seem great, but the execution seemingly is a mixed bag -- wonder if something a bit basic would've sufficed at the moment, as long as they were executed well (like would a Let's Go overworld with Sword & Shield mechanics suffice?).
@@zjzr08 I don't think that would've been enough. People were wanting innovation out of swsh, and i think the overworld And wild areas were made for that purpose. People were expecting swsh to be the biggest and best looking Pokemon games yet, so other areas like the dex had to suffer for them to fit in these innovations. They bit off too much to chew and didn't get the time to swallow it all.
No...just no. Do not compare Gen VIII to the insult that is Sonic Forces. At least Sword and Shield actually tried to be a fun video game that respected what came before.
@@smashmaster521 I've started playing sonic forces recently and it is surprisingly like swsh. They are both mediocre games that try to do something innovative with the series (making everything bigger and more grand with swsh and an attempt at a much more mature story with forces, even if forces did a bad job), but both can at least be enjoyed as fun to play. Forces also feels a bit rushed, just like swsh.
You've pretty much summed up my feelings with this. But one flaw that I still can't get over is that regular Pokemon can't use their Gigantamax forms. You HAVE to catch a Gigantamax Pokemon from specific raids. The Corviknight, Coalossal and Toxtricity I had on my team that I had with me for my entire journey just don't get to use Gigantamax, and that really sucks. It's directly the opposite of the series' most hammered down messages: It doesn't matter whether what's objectively the "best" way to battle, the bonds you share with your friends are what are really important. Kinda hard to say that with a straight face when you're basically telling me to trash one of my team members because they aren't allowed to do the special transformation that's exclusive to their species.
SilverJakler the thing is, many Gigantamax Pokémon are worse then the dynamax ones. They have the same stats, just different effects in the moves and appearances. Your Corviknight is better of normal, same with charizard and many more.
1ts2EZ I still believe that you should have the option to make your Pokémon able to gigantamax Pokémon you caught during your playthrough. Perhaps we could have gotten an item like the dynamax candies from doing gigantamax raids, needing to complete raids of the specific Pokémon you want to be able to gigantamax. By making it so that you need to do the raid of the Pokémon you want to gigantamax, this allows them to both give us the ability to gigantamax our playthrough Pokémon, while still allowing gamefreak to do events with mons that currently have unavailable gigantamax forms.
Yeah, they could at least let us turn in our Dynamax Candies for an item that lets us make eligible Pokémon Gigantamaxable, because lord knows we get more Dynamax Candies than we actually use
Yeah, you’ve pretty much summed up all my thoughts on Sword and Shield: As a whole, very enjoyable, but the finer parts of it make it obvious that the devs were forced to cut corners.
@@Source-Z-rer The region was kinda small and railroded for my tastes. Although it had more content than SWSH. It probably helped that 2015 didn't have any mainline Pokemon game. We had 4 years in a row with one mainline Pokmeon game each year. That's not a good schedule.
@@Source-Z-rer but, since it works because people continue defending this rushed games, I won't be surprised they release another new mainline Pokemon game next year.
Can I just say I love Opal? I normally don’t like anything associated with the Fairy Type (except Mimikyu), but Opal is just too damn energetic and fun. Also, seeing her freak out about Bede’s pinkness has me laughing absurdly.
Yeah Opal is easily my favorite gym leader here. She's crazy, smart, and is a massive troll as well with the gym questions XD. "What is my age?" I was dead on the floor.
For me, this game is the epitome of "style over substance." All of the positives I've seen made about this video game are mainly ones that revolve around the aesthetics or just general eye candy, namely the Camping and Gigantamaxing. In terms of visuals, they're a great appeal, but when you dive into their gameplay purposes, they're pretty pointless. Definitely cool and charming the first go around, but not something to really come back to; again, just like the game itself. It's good as a first time, but nothing really more than that.
One complaint i have is how the primary conflict comes so late in these games. Having the climax come RIGHT before your champion battle is far too late, and it kinda feels like it rushes through the rose arc.
PikaCinema in that case, it really feels worse to shove it in at the end, you’re better off not including it at all if you aren’t gonna make it a focus like Gen 7 did.
@PikaCinema then why not have Sordward and Shielbert appear sooner so theres justification for the good bois to show up and have you and Hop then use them against Eternatus before the league begins instead of the "oh wait, real quick I forgot about this" the story ended up doing with everything.
@PikaCinema My point is that the justification should move happened sooner for pacing reasons and so you can use the pokemon that's on the box before the game ends. The way the story flip flops back and forth in the third act is comparable to a fanfiction. Two different primary stories are happening and instead of having one play out then the other, they have break up the story beats and order them in a ABABAB format with no consideration for how they would transition between each other. It's like if in Back to the Future Marty Mcfly was trying to get his parents to get together, then suddenly he has to deal with Buford the old west outlaw, then suddenly we're back to seeing Marty set his parents up. You see how that doesn't flow at all? And no, the fact that it's "realistic" for things to happen unexpectedly In real life doesn't justify bad story telling because the writers are in full control.
I'm shocked that you didn't bring up the 20 mins on Single Battles for online or there's no VS. Recorder. But yeah, I can agree that they were rushed and I did had fun playing them, but something deep down inside wanted them to be better. Also, I been noticing the lack of F-Bombs in your videos. Not a problem, just shocked. LOLz
This game may have gotten a lot of controversy, but is very enjoyed by many and I think I see why that is. It’s standard Pokémon of course people will have fun with it
That's the problem though... Peel back the paint and you'll see the statue is sub-par at best. I played Dragon Quest 11 instead of Sw/Sh, and the difference between it and modern Pokemon is night and day. I personally think Gen 5 was the best JRPG at the time of its release. Where did it go so wrong that a franchise that's only highly popular in one country overtook it so far in quality? And that's not even mentioning Persona 5, which has profits that are dwarfed by both. Pokemon should be so much more, and I think Game Freak would agree. However, the higher ups in decision making have turned Pokémon into a cash cow, and Game Freak has to work incredibly fast to keep up with demand. As long as we keep buying these games Game Freak won't get the time they deserve and we, the fans, won't get the best product we possibly could. Not to mention maybe the higher ups would start making high quality high effort deep spinoffs again, like Colosseum, Ranger, Mystery Dungeon and the earlier Rumbles. The only one we've gotten in recent times is Pokken. Everyone is free to like this game, but I just can't support it. Fans and creators are hurt when corporate gets greedy and tries to make as much money as it can in as little time as it can.
@@jowysw Sure Dragon Quest has kept a lot of its core elements, such as turn based combat, but it's been expanded in so many areas to keep being fun and entertaining to play. The locations, characters, story, monster (and everything else) designs, voice acting, music (11s at least), the amount of weapons, the forge, the amount of dialogue that changes as you go through the game, the free-roam camera, the open world... It keeps everything fans of the genre like about the classic games while improving upon them, adding new stuff and taking away things most people don't like. Heck, even with the turn-based combat, you can let the computer control your team-mates if you don't want to manage multiple party members. And by the end of the post-game my highest level characters were nearly at max level. That's something Pokémon could really do to improve: rather than giving us items to fix the flaws of leveling, why not have the levels of Pokémon be around 90 by the end of the game, and adjusting the levels Pokémon evolve at and the amount of experience it takes to level up to compensate?
The worst game I've enjoyed this year. Do read this sentence carefully. It's so obvious that there were great ideas here: The characters are fun, the world's pleasantly designed, and the new pokemon designs are cool...But there's a HUGE lack of polish that I'm normally used to in all of Nintendo's games: Huge FPS drops despite looking like a mobile game, lots of non-animations for things that really should have them etc.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. For me, I feel like the whole idea for these games has so much potential, but that potential is never truly taken advantage of. I feel like they could’ve done so much more, but didn’t.
Hoping they improve but seeing this happened before, people can't complain about it without being called haters and people always buy them I guess they won't.
Honestly, one of the most fair, even-sided reviews for SwSh I've come across since its release. Other reviews either gush nonstop over the same few bullet points and nothing else, or bash these games so hard against the wall that they only serve to spread the toxicity even further among the fanbase. But with this review, he makes sure to address EVERY issue with equal treatment, BOTH good AND bad. Logan, kudos for making a justified review acknowledging the highs and lows of these games fairly and NOT just being a pile of fanboy-ing or cutthroat belittling. 😄👍
I disagree. This review seemed fairly biased imo since he failed to mention a few notable flaws in the game. For example, he didn't really mention that 6v6 single battles have a 20 minute time limit, which completely butchers an entire battle format. He had given some positive aspects a +4 or +5 when it is fairly undeserved in my eyes.
My problem with Sw/Sh is that if you peel back the paint, you'll see the statue is sub-par at best. I played Dragon Quest 11 instead of Sw/Sh, and the difference between it and modern Pokemon is night and day. I personally think Gen 5 was the best JRPG at the time of its release. Where did it go so wrong that a franchise that's only highly popular in one country overtook it so far in quality? And that's not even mentioning Persona 5, which has profits that are dwarfed by both. Pokemon should be so much more, and I think Game Freak would agree. However, the higher ups in decision making have turned Pokémon into a cash cow, and Game Freak has to work incredibly fast to keep up with demand. As long as we keep buying these games Game Freak won't get the time they deserve and we, the fans, won't get the best product we possibly could. Not to mention maybe the higher ups would start making high quality high effort deep spinoffs again, like Colosseum, Ranger, Mystery Dungeon and the earlier Rumbles. The only one we've gotten in recent times is Pokken. Everyone is free to like this game, but I just can't support it. Fans and creators are hurt when corporate gets greedy and tries to make as much money as it can in as little time as it can.
The lamentation of megas being gone and game devs needing to be given more time made me smile a little, now that Pokemon Legends Z-A is coming out next year
I agree with you for the most part, but I feel like you were a little too generous with the +5s. The Pokemon designs here are really good, but they’re not all perfect imo. It’s about on par with SM which has my 2nd favorite designs in the series. Also, what? Dynamaxing is (moslty) balanced? Did we play the same game?
Not to mention some "positives" are actually negatives. Dynamax is AWFUL, the game looks terrible and some designes are just BAD (I'm looking at you, dracovish).
“You can’t accidentally cancel stone evolutions”? I’m replaying FireRed and I tried purposefully cancelling a Stone evolution and it still evolved as normal.
I feel like you should pull it back a bit with the rating numbers. Sticker star (deservedly) got the first -4 but since then,you seem more inclined to give other not as impotent topics a +4/-4. So now if you want to make something sound exiting you give it a 5... And eventually you'll give it a 6 once more stuff gets 5's And so on and so forth. (Great video but a just hope the numbers don't get too bloated in the future!)
I intended the score to go as high as 5 from the beginning, just wanted to wait for the right time to break it in. Oh, and that's as high as they're going. So, don't worry about that.
I can definitely imagine the time constraints GameFreak have to go through when making these games on a yearly release ever since Sun and Moon, even with the production in mind. Giving them an extra year will definitely polish up the game to make them the best games possible! Plus, this is *MUCH* better than people spamming “Bring Back National Dex” to the developers as it gives GameFreak the feedback they need to improve future games without getting harassed with threats and false allegations as doing that will make GameFreak unmotivated with making this amazing series as the controversy did affect the developer's morale when making the games. Let's do the right thing.
Gamefreak is quite incompetent at times, but they can make great games as long as they have enough time to do so. I blame The Pokemon Company. There's so much potential here, but it's all been ruined by ridiculous time restraints.
@@StickMaster500If you're talking about the Masuda allegations, they were denounced by all parts of the community, and found that it's more of a simple internet troll.
What I don't understand is why they flat out refused to add cut Pokemon and moves back into the game with waves of patches. I mean they literally reused Sun and Moon's models so it's just a matter of animating them and creating new effects for moves. I guarantee people wouldn't be so mad if they did that, because yeah almost 1000 Pokemon is definitely a lot to handle and people would probably understand needing to create a base of half and add the others later. But not only are they not doing that afaik I believe they also said they are going to limit the dex in all future releases from now on, which is a move I really don't think is smart because we'll just keep getting the same reaction when X Pokemon gets cut and replaced with Y Pokemon.
If I had to guess about that, time crunch is going to be the biggest driver of that. They've basically got to get the best they can out before the timeline for that game runs dry. If I was going to be smart about this, I would do the mons that didn't show up this game and steadily build up the full catalog, then release them all in the next possible game. The mons missing are something they can control, Pokemon Company timelines for the games are something they don't have a choice but to follow
Probably because they have to get cracking on next year's games. The Pokemon Company'll have a stroke if new games don't come out every November apparently.
Tbh, I haven't even compared it much to any other Pokemon games. I've just been comparing my experience with Shield to my time with other recent Switch releases, and it still comes out messed for me.
Dragon Gamer Z agreed. Sure there are problems with the game, and people are entitled to address them as such. But I’ve seen people hating on parts of the game that are done incredibly well (Hop’s character arc was written incredibly well and was a very interesting part of the story, yet I’ve seen so many people say that he was just a clone of hau and leave it like that.) There was plenty of things in this game that was done well, but too many people only see the negatives.
@@Blaze-nm1uh people said that of Hop because of how it comes across early on and how much it interrupts you. It doesn't help it reuses the same animations from Hau.
I really wished Sword and shield could have been better It had the best new Pokémon they add(including galarian forms) It had the best gym Best soundtrack because we are blessed by Toby fox But everything else involving National dex, Dynamax, Gigantamax, Gen 1 pandering/fanservice with Charizard, Gengar, Meowth, Eevee, Pikachu, and Snorlax Finally the most boring story since everything just thrown at you without good reasoning, and uninteresting Champion, villian, and rival Well only Hop because Marnie and Bede are WAY better as a rival Lysandre and Lusamine was more interesting and reasonable compare to what Gen 8 is
Im not gonna judge you fot not liking it, this is just my takes Dynamax/Gigantamax is based on how a lot of European myths are giants and stuff, and while i dont see it as a good replacement megas (not Z-Moves, i dont really care imo) There was a LOT of stuff outside of Kanto reps, specifically for Unova and kinda Sinnoh and Johto) The idea for the story was AMAZING, even if it was meh Leon was actually super cool for me, a really cool champion overall Hop's character development is some of the best in the entire series, meanwhile Bede is like they were trying too hard to have a mean rival again, it wasnt horrible but he was the weakest for me But i cant lie that the national dex was annoying
@PikaCinema It's just another happy go lucky BEST FRIEND 'rival" that interrupts you two times at every route. I ended up more annoyed with his story at the end because of that.
@@jowysw So? Whats wrong with that archetype of rival? Plus i wouldnt describe Hop as that at all, he's more in the leagues of Barry, Hugh, and Marnie who are your friends but aren't up in your face about it, they show their rival side off happily and with loads of pride, yet still giving you a friendship, and that's probably my favorite type of Rival
Ok minor point: but the pokeball button was in Gen 7, unless it's been changed idk. Overall I agree with everything. I don't hold anything against GameFreak here. I put the blame on the Pokemon Company for insisting that the first main Switch Pokemon games follow their strict release schedule. I was in favor of the dex cut if it helped the games perform better/let GF flush out mechanics more, but that didn't really happen this time. The Pokemon designs are top notch, my favs include the Applin line, Falinks, and G Darmanitan. However, I don't fully agree with the sixty dollar price, especially considering they're rushed. It lead me to decide to pass on these games, which is sad because I was really excited for them. I just don't want to support sacrificing quality for annual releases: that's not Pokemon.
For Gen 7, the Specific Button for the Pokeballs was on the Touch Screen, though I think it did have an acyion button assigned to it. The difference is, the button brought up your Pokeball Bag Menu, whereas the Gen 8 Pokeball Button brings up a shortcut to the list WITHOUT opening the menu.
My biggest problem with sword and shield is honestly just the small things that make it seem unprofessional. Like how time stops when you get on a ladder or sit on a bench. Or how every single Gigantamax form has a physical attack animation... that they will never use in battle. Or the god forsaken MOUSE CURSOR that literally appears in the credits. It's stuff like that that turns me off. That feeling of seeing them trying to shove a game out so fast that they can't even check Zamazenta's model to make sure that his cape doesn't clip into his body just feels infuriating. (Also while I agree for the most part with the characters thing Marnie is hot Garbodor shit in terms of personality and importance)
While I disagree with the personality thing, I completely agree with Marnie being unimportant. You see more of Team Yell than you do her, and she doesn't even do anything that important (involving her story or the main story) until near the end of the game. *What*
@@Source-Z-rer I feel like she lacks a lot of things. She has less battles with you in the main story than Bede, who, might i remind you, is disqualified from the gym challenge and dragged off to go train with Opal halfway through the story. Marnie gets less than him despite being able to be around more. What makes me say Marnie has no personality is how she feels... basic. Like, how does she feel towards team yell? Oh they're just a fanbase who sometimes gets a little too riled up at times. She doesnt feel annoyed by them constantly watching her, nor does she get defensive of them. She takes the most plain, simple, nonconfrontational road of, "they're good but they make mistakes." And that feeling of "taking the easiest possible route" feels repeated over and over with Marnie. Why does she reject Piers' offer to be Spikemuth's gym leader? Because she cant if she'll be champion, duh! Her card literally says "Though many in Spikemuth see her as a local celebrity, she herself has no interest in pursuing fame. However, she says she does appreciate the support of Team Yell, her personal cheering squad." So... what you're saying is that she doesnt want to be famous but doesnt mind the downside to being famous, that being obnoxious clingy fans? And also, if one of the reasons you'd want to be champion is to breathe life back into your hometown, then why would you say you're not pursuing fame?! Isnt that the reason you're becoming champion? To become famous enough that you can bring in tourists and money to spikemuth and help it get better? Why doesnt even say that you dont want fame, it's clear that you dont seem to care at all about followers and crowds chanting for you. The card doesnt even say whether she likes or dislikes her fans mimicking her accent. She has no interactions with anyone outside of you and team yell, and she never shows any character growth. Shes just there. And even that's incorrect since YOU BARELY EVER SEE HER IN THE GAME!
@@flarecoils1573 Oh, don't even get me started on that! I felt that both Bede and Marnie should have gotten more battles with you so you could at least get more of their story or personality, but with Marnie especially it feels like she just kinda exists in the story as an unimportant side character. Even when you get to Spikemuth, it just comes across as another roadblock to clear instead of a major area to go to for story purposes. I feel it comes down to the story of SwSh itself, where most of the major plot events just happen out of seemingly nowhere and then end, like the crap with Chairman Rose. Marnie is absolutely no exception to this. My solution would be to make the campaign last longer and have her battle you more or be around more often, or give her a larger part in the post game, instead of her just practicing her smiling (while that moment was cute, it's all we get in terms of character growth from her. Even Bede has a larger part in the post game). If the story was longer, I think Marnie (and some other characters by extension) could have been more fleshed out with their motivations. I don't think Marnie is a bad character overall, as I see some potential in her and it could have been tapped if the story was handled better in some areas, and I'd honestly rather deal with a character that's missed potential and is just kinda there than a character who has a major role in the story and fucks it up (I don't like Chairman Rose, if you couldn't tell already), but I do agree that Marnie could have been handled WAYYY better, mostly with her role in the story and some of her personality.
@@flarecoils1573 I know, right? We get so much backstory and buildup for Zacian and Zamazenta, but almost nothing for Eternatus. Not even a hint that he was behind the Darkest Day from long ago, when that's all that was needed. Edit: I meant before he was released by Chairman Rose.
Yeah it's clear that gamefreak weren't given the time and that's the biggest issue, I don't get why people think they are greedy, awful people who only care about the bottom line. There's clear passion and creativity in all the installments
How is cutting Pokemon from the games and forcing you to pay for a subscription service, Pokemon Home, to keep your transferred Pokemon hostage until they're finally added to a new game, and likely deleting all of the Pokemon you have deposited if you unsubscribe not "greedy"? Have you thought this through at all?
@@MxPokirby You got it wrong, Gamefreak did really try on this game, but The Pokemon Company (not Gamefreak) gave them a deadline that didn't allow for all of this other content. Gamefreak has no call in Pokemon Home being a subscription service.
@@mx.e2176 it's not about resources, it's about the amount of time given. They can't do it all in 3 years. Pokemon games used to take about 4-5 years to make, but as the series grows bigger and bigger The Pokemon Company wants games coming out quicker and quicker. Gamefreak can't design A new region, new Pokemon, a new story, new characters, new moves, new gameplay fixes in that timeframe. They have proven with time they can deliver, but now TPC wants a new game every year weather a remake, sister game or new generation.
@@paperluigidrivinthecar5070 Thank you for realizing this. I've always put the blame on the Pokemon Company, not GameFreak. GF is under their thumb. Pokemon may be the highest grossing multimedia franchise in the world, but people forget the *multi* part. The games are only a part of the overall income. They can flop and the PC will just push the plushies and toys and shows and etc.
Also this: The postgame content is pathetic. While it’s better than XY, it’s a far cry from gen 7’s postgame (particularly Ultra SM), which gave us quite a bit to do with catching Ultra Beasts and Legendaries. In contrast, Galar only gives us a small side story and 1 Legendary to catch after the main game (the single worst gen for Legendary Hunting to date. When XY does something as fun as Legendary hunting better than this game, you know you have messed up hard somewhere) aside from the usual P v NPC Competitive facilities. Considering this is a $60.00 game, I don’t approve of this (+3 for bad). Edit: also, I think the presentation as a whole is rough. I’m not just talking about graphics- there’s also sound effects. Like, we’re they too lazy to update sound effects?!?!
The reason that Hidden Power was likely removed is for multiple reasons: The Type Calculations for it would likely be really weird with it as Max Moves, I.E., would it be Normal type, or the Type given, and the mints probably fucked the calculations something fierce.
I feel that you gave the games far too much credit for things which should be givens(as in, things that most other franchises take for granted. Let's be real, if just about any other company made pokemon, half the convience changes they made in sword and shield would have been implemented by the time platinum came out. And by the way, they had a dedicated button for poke balls in gen 7.) Few other comments: If you think dynamax is balanced, I don't know what fangame you're playing, because it ain't in the slightest. you comment on the choice lock, and its worth noting it. still. gets. the. boost. from. whatever. item. its. holding. There's a reason that both megas and z moves required an item lock, because all three need it to be balanced. Just look at mega rayquaza versus either mega mewtwo. One is banned from ubers, the other is barely used in ubers. one needs the item, one can hold anything but a z crystal. pretty obvious correlation. Either way, dynamax definitely does not deserve a +3. +2 is pushing it. I don't want to make the "IDK what game you've been playing twice" joke twice, but seriously, how the cinnamon toast f*** is chairman rose "morally fascinating"? He's starting doomsday events in an attempt to stop a problem 1000 years in the future and catching anyone who can prevent mass destruction with their pants down. Speaking of pants, Leon ain't hooking up with cynthia if he doesn't stop wearing short shorts.(No people, Leon does not dress like football players do. I have yet to see any soccer players wear short shorts or a cape. Stop trying to pretend Leon's pitiful attempt at "Fashion" is anything other than a turn off.) Jeez, three in a row? Team yell is literally the exact same "Bad guys aren't actually bad" trope as team skull. just the same as how Macro cosmos turning out to be the ones causing problems is the same "seemingly benevolent but kinda mysterious figure is secretly the big bad" they pulled with both lusamine and lysandre. The exp candies, while good for competitive, take an already broken leveling system and subject it to the explosion of a dynamaxed electrode. You also dodge around the graphics issue, but it is actually quite a big one. If you are cutting a corner as big as the national dex, it makes sense that you would improve in every other area, and we just don't see that in sword and shield. If you upscale the previous games, USUM, 3DS games, they look basically identical to sword and shield, and even arguably better in many areas(and without many of the problems in sword and shield), compared to literally every other console change which improved the graphics considerably, not just upscaling previous graphics, despite a largely reduced workload. and like you say, other franchise advanced their graphics considerably with their moves to the switch. Even when this video released, we had already seen the switch's potential, and sword and shield don't come anywhere near the likes of Breath of the Wild, Smash Ultimate, or Mario Oddessy, which not only look beautiful but blow the graphics of other entries in their franchises out of the water. It's not quite worth +5, but I would definitely have given it +3 or 4. Also, the regional evolutions, while definitely a plus, barely count as evolutions for the pokemon which need them. Sirfetch'd and Mr rime are great, yeah, but kantonian farfetch'd is still useless as ever. I'm hoping you will update this for the DLC, not just because it fixed some of the issues(whilst introducing new a plethora of new ones, unfortunately), but also because you were a bit too generous. Believe me, I wanted to love these games, but you talk about they are still fun, despite all the problems, and issues not directly in the game such as with gamefreak's marketing recent tactics, which have been immoral at best and the sort of thing which would provoke lawsuits for a less fanatical fanbase than pokemon's at worst(Most notably, blatant false advertising. They at one point explictly said they cut the dex because they remade the models(which were future proofed anyways, so this wouldn't have been an issue if they hadn't claimed they remade them), then proceeded to release the game with a handful of models which were even remotely changed, and none which were changed enough to be visible. You think they are still fun, but all the problems(particularly the broken levelling system, which make the game far too easy) have just rendered them nearly unplayable. It just feels like for ever step forward, there's either two steps back, or just one bigger step back. Really, my thoughts on this game can be summed up by a quote from Shigeru Miyamoto, a quote which whoever made the decisions which caused all these problems should have heeded: "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is bad forever." Sorry for the wall of text.
Pokemon is in a tough spot with deadlines. They can't exactly delay the game when a date is already set and announced, because Pokemon is more than just a game. Theres the anime episodes already set to release, the merchandise stores will be getting, the TGC. Should they get more time? Yes, of course. But if they were to, all of the above would need to be pushed back
@@MxPokirby again, its not that simple. With Animal crossing for example, its just 1 game. Deadlines are set for a reason. Cuz other things rely on it. It just so happens this game needed more time than they originally scoped. A delay for SwSh woulda been bad business, because of all the external media
Good video, however it did feel a bit biased when we got to the bad. The reason why people are upset with Gen 8’s graphics are that we now finally got a mainline Pokémon game on a home console as powerful as the switch, and it still looks and plays like 3ds game. This honestly baffles me because the Coliseum games have been looking like actual console games for almost 2 decades. As for the National Dex, most of us who aren’t just crying that their favorite mon didn’t make it in are upset that GameFreak said that they had reasons to cut it that were obviously false. They said they were re modeling all the Pokémon: the models are reused. They said they’re gonna be more expressive with animations: most of the animations used for battling are extremely dated and of low quality. It just boggles my mind that this even had to happen honestly.....
While I acknowledge these games were far more fun than I anticipated given the bad prep, I'd still say Gen 8 is in the bottom 3, along with Gen 1 and 6. After I beat them, I went to play my HeartGold copy for the heck of it, and it just reminded me how good Pokemon used to be. Or how much better it was. In truth, I doubt any Pokémon game that will be released in the future will touch HGSS or BW2
Mighty Mitochondria it’s funny you mention that but when I first played Soul Silver (which was after both Emerald and Platinum for me) I hated it. I felt like my ass was getting kicked. But as time grew on, I learned and adapted. I really love this game now it encourages me to train more than 6 Pokémon, and it encourages me to use Pokémon I would never use because they weren’t as good an alternative. Emerald you can get away with a team of six comfortably, Platinum I HAD to stick with a team of six specialized Pokémon. Pokémon B&W taught me how to plan my team in advance, X allowed me to pick literally anything and have fun, and Moon again had me at a specialized team although I did have to backtrack to catch a Ribombee.
@@giraffedragon6110 I feel like HGSS are the perfect difficulty. You can use a team of your favorites, and get a reasonable challenge without feeling like you needed to use better pokemon. It's definitely my favorite Nuzlocke game by far, due to the following feature making you get more attached, and the Johto Gym leaders being solid challenges, especially Morty and Clair. I think the hardest games were probably FRLG, BW/2, and USUM. They sorta kicked my ass out of nowhere.
Mighty Mitochondria I still rarely have a good plan for Clair outside a skarmory spikes roar toxic stall because of that bloody kingdra. I swear every time I see a kingdra in any game that isn’t kalos ORAS or Moon I think “well fuck, how am I gonna get out of THIS?”. Cause in Emerald the only dragon type you get without trade till postgame is flygon and Rayquaza. Yeah Walreign’s fantastic but Juan’s has double team and Drake is scary. Then Clair the only dragon type you could POSSIBLY obtain by that point is a dratini in the gamecorner with voltorb flip (you can’t even buy tokens en mass) and if you want a real good ice type you’ll go for mamoswine by finding a hidden heart scale or trading a razor claw so Sneasal can evolve. There’s a chance someone doesn’t know about lapras and either try to tank with the red Gyrados with ice fang or use Feraligator ice fang. I’ve just never HAD a good answer for Clair.
@@Jdudec367 Sorta. It's hard to grind after Morty, and Pryce is a total pushover compared to Clair. This was definitely more noticeable in the original 3 games from Gen 2. It isn't as bad in HGSS.
From a Sw-Sh hater: My standards are high, but I cannot argue with you about the rating. They need more time. However there are still some unforgivable things about Pokemon, preferably the "High Quality Animations" we were promised.
You do realize it could have meant something OTHER than moves, right? If not, grab a dictionary and look up the TM for common sense. Might fit well with your team.
@@jowysw They're higher deffinitions, similarly to let's go, slot less pixels are noticable. Also, assuming that the TM comment was an insult and not a passing suggestion makes your argument invalid for false accusations.
I think Sword and Shield are honestly my least favorite games in the series but even then I at least still enjoyed them. Seriously, give these games more development time. That's the one thing holding his series back in my eyes.
You are waiting so much, Pokémon doesnt re-use characters and if they do that, it Will be only really simple and it won't have anything important for the story
My only real gripes personally have been Y Comm especially with college wifi and linking to friends, raid battle NPCs (Screw Magikarp, Wobbufett, and Solrock), and Gigantamaxing. Specifically that it was made to where you need to hunt down that specific version of a mon in a raid battle over raising it's evolution line in order to get it. And if that doesn't work, it could very well have a trigger to let the line be capable of GMax over DMax. For example, what if in its final stage of evolution, you make curry with Gigantamix and if you get a 4 or higher with that Mon in the lead, it makes a text box appear saying you can GMax it now. Would make having to farm dens less annoying given they are locked to extremely rare spawns in rare dens
Can I take a moment to talk about team yell? • Cool as fuck designs for the grunts • Marnie is easily the best rival in the game, the perfect combination of respect for the player with charming snark • The team looks edgy and intimidating and yet the members are just wholesome and caring and I fucking love that • Still on the wholesome point, the historical accuracy of team yell being wholesome punks warms my heart as a Brit that loved learning about punk culture and how they literally were just musicians that wanted their message heared • Piers is my new favourite gym leader eclipsing Norman's ORAS appearance in character design and battle. Plus his theme is god tier along with Marnie's.
Lee Stephen, I agree 100% that team yell are just wonderful! I really hate it when people downplay team yell as "the worst evil team in Pokemon." Because they clearly were not meant to be one! Sure, it's considered a series staple to have an "evil" team in every Pokemon game. But these people need to get with the times!
Dynamax was a fun idea, but ultimately felt like "mega evolution but less" because they were somehow simultaneously worse and more powerful than megas. Dynamax and Gigantimax are only available for 3 turns, but otherwise offer no real downside. However a mega salamance is way scarier and harder to beat in the right hands. Z moves felt fine as well, and they made it a choice of "Use a z move or mega stone or something else." Allowing for mind games in the right situations. Dynamax feels like it wanted to be climactic but its surprisingly easy to endure in single player, and in competitive play they can and can't sweep a team somehow, depending on the format and team. They feel like a threat and a joke, making it just a big joke over all. The biggest issue is the hand holding, or at least how the game treats you like you can't do anything. The scene where leon defeats a dynamax purrzerker off screen is basically how the game treats everything, "Don't worry just continue." But I WANT to be involved!I WANT to help! I WANT TO HAVE FUN! The game has events happen off screen, dangerous events that you are told happened and then told to just ignore it. Compare the infamous scene where leon beats a dynamax purrzerker off screen and tells you to continue versus the lake valor explosion in gen 4. You get there a moment too late, but you still fight and defeat Saturn. Then you rush up to snow point, once again just being too late. You only continue with the last gym after team galactic is beaten. You aren't told to continue with your journey, cynthia doesn't say she can handle it. Rowan doesn't tell you to not go, he tells you to be careful. He knows and expects you to go and trusts you to handle yourself. You are treated as the competent trainer that you are. If dppt were more like swish then Rowan would tell you to not go to the lake, you would go with Barry to smowpoint and he would rush ahead, Cynthia would deal with most of the events at veilstone and she would free the lake guardians with you, after you had beaten Saturn... Its way less climactic and you are treated like a kid. Yeah its somewhat more realistic in the sense that a newbie wouldn't be as good but realism is not what they should be aiming for. I liked being an exceptionally good trainer. I liked others trusting me to handle myself and proving them right with their trust. I liked doing thing in the plot.
I feel like the competitive tweaks didn't deserve a +5, it's what you'd expect from every new mainline game. Personally, I feel I liked the main story fine enough, albeit very by-the-numbers, music is amazing, the new mons are top-quality, even more so than Gen 7 in my eyes. But man, lack of content for offline players, the horrible gimmick that is Dynamax that only works in story and is broken in an actual fair competitive match... Oh and did I mention those competitive matches have a 20-minute timer now if you do singles? Oy oy oy.... Not to mention the capped damage and horrible AI in raid battles, the terrible weather gimmicks constant in the wild area that clog up the speed in both performance and in-battle. The concept of the gym challenge being a full-on sport event is amazing, but didn't amount to a whole lot in the end other than rematching a couple gym leaders in the tournament... And this is all not having even mentioned the dex cut, which I honestly feel the same as Logan on. Sucks, but I'm not gonna go apeshit about it. These games are rough. I'd argue not worth the pricetag. I'd recommend to wait for a drop in price but I doubt they're willing to do that anytime soon. 40 euros would be fair enough, but not 60.
The balance is horrendous. People bitch about megas but dynamax as a whole got itself banished to anything goes. Where only mega rayquaza resided for the longest time. That should have been five negative points.
Here's the thing with pokemon swsh. They're fun and I had a lot of fun but every pokemon game is fun, i have not played one that wasn't. So for me, atleast, having it be fun is low. Some of my problems: 1. I dislike Hop. Yes he has good character growth but man is he annoying. And it doesn't help that he's stupid easy. 2. Max Raid Battle NPC are annoying as hell. If you play a 4-5 star max raid battle with npcs, you aren't going to win because one will use cosmic power, another helping hand, and the other will die 4 times because they brought a fire type to a ground water type raid battle. 3. The game is too easy. If you have a pokemon that's supereffective, then dynamax it you guaranteed a win. Ik it's been like that for almost every pokemon game but it feels more apparent here. 4. Post Game isn't good. It feels like a boring side quest rather than something big. Plus why are the box legendaries in post game and not main game, that's dumb. Eternatus should've been post game.
@PikaCinema Yeah, but like Emerald kinda has that already, where you meet Rayquaza storywise, then you can catch it if you reach Sky Pillar -- also, something like Diamond and Pearl with extra areas and characters like Stark Mountain and the Marley missions could've been nice.
@@1lluusio if he wsnts to defend gamefreak commenting in every comment that is slightly critical of Swsh then he cant accept other people opinions either.
This is something that I did when the final tally was put up. I decided to do some math to get a general percentage for Logan's thoughts on this game, and a 37:21 ratio come to a 63% for positive, and 37% for negative. Now on the surface 37 to 21 sounds like a lot, but it actually isn't. If I remember correctly, USUM had a even closer ratio of 22:21. Which in percentage is a 51% positive and a 49% negative. The Let's Go games were an even 50% on both sides. If we are going by how reviews work, that means that Logan considers this game to be barely passable and the other two(USUM and Let's Go) failures. If you are saying that this video is full of bias, then look back at what I calculated. These numbers that I calculated are showing that Logan is actually being tougher than most critics are. Most critics are giving this game 8's and 9's and the lowest score by critics is higher than what Logan is giving with it being a 7. So the question is, is Logan being bias? Well, if he was, the gap in points would be much bigger, like the ratio would probably be more like a 54:8. I bet someone is going to try and say that what I am saying is wrong and that I need to "wake up" and see the truth. Well, math like that cannot lie, it just shows the answers to the problems. I am not siding with Logan, I am just showing the calculation that I got. So, if you have responses, step right up. Hit me with your best shot!
Ok, I'll go up to bat. The blessed or messed series is not about failures or success. Rather it's about looking at the good AND bad in everything. If you get caught up in one side, you definitely forget the other and develop an unhealthy mindset. Also, he looked at USUM's additions rather than the whole game. All of this he said in his videos. Happiness dies when we forget the positives, improvement dies if we forget the negatives. It's an important balance.
@@Ed-sd5ft That is not the point I am trying to make. The point here is not to say that Logan has no opinion, it is that he is not being terribly bias. Being bias is different from having an opinion.
@@Ed-sd5ft Well, there is always going to be bias in anything that is subjective. I'm not saying he has no bias, just not terrible bias. If it was terrible bias, there would be very little to no points in messed.
Can we just mention how Galar's nation vault, let me say that again, NATIONAL VAULT. As in, the place that should contain the most valuable things in all of Galar, has only 4 fuckin tapestries in it.
yeah... more time and this game would've been great, at least to me. I don't think this game looks very good in my opinion, so I'm not buying it, but if the next game is improved on, I might get that.
I burst only laughing when he called this game balanced after complaining about the balance in X and Y. Like bruh. This is the worst balanced Pokémon game of all time. Smogon were probably pulling their hairs out trying to hold the competitive scene together for this shitshow. Most gigantamax Pokémon were just thrown into anything goes. Megas were Uber at worst other than Rayquaza.
This game...It was a rollercoaster for me. Keep in mind, this comes from the heart of someone who loves the games as a concept, and never got to experience the supposed best games of the series. I apologize for the text wall, so I'll summarize: I loved it in concept, I hated what came out during the leadup, I can't support this game myself but I see why others would. I just want the game I know can exist on this hardware now. When I first heard of it, I was in love instantly, since it was going to be the most ambitious game yet, taking that Switch hardware and pushing its limits, and the pokemon team themselves pushing their own limits with a new generation, a new region, new ideas...and right off the bat, I knew I would love the Fire Starter for once (as someone who was always on the Grass team) Then the Dexit news came out, and I was distraught at the concept of losing some of the ones who I loved so much. Of course, the leaks confirmed that more than half of my favorites were shorn away, but at the time I didn't know that, and I was shaken at the idea. Not helping was the slow trickle of other losses, like the straight removal of Mega Evolution. Every day was more bad news, and my fears only grew. The Games leaked, and all my worst fears were getting validated, a full scan of the 400 mon roster, 320 mons were returning in some form, 40% of all, and indeed, only about 40% of my own picks made it in. It wrenched my gut enough to solidify my choice not to get the game; I wouldn't support this direction before, but the loss felt too personal to reconsider. Tack onto that the various technological and graphical issues that were evident in the game (time stopping ladders still gets me,) and the more on-rails story progression of "just do the league" for most of the game, I was content to sit back and watch this game go up in flames on release... ...Then they released officially, and, surprisingly, there was still something good about it. Designs were still wonderful, the region as a concept felt very alive, ignoring the obvious visual faults, and most of the newcomers had very clear identities of their own, which I do greatly respect. I still can't see myself supporting or reccomending this game to anyone but diehard fans, especially in the state of its release and with the executive decision to straight can the idea of "Gotta Catch Em All," but i'm not so blind as to ignore why people can and do still like it themselves. I just can't do so in good faith. Taking a line from an old review I saw a long time ago for Skyrim of all things; "This is not a bad game...yet. It's hard to ruin a franchise with just one entry, but if things keep going this way, it can only go downhill." Enjoy Sword and Shield if you can, I will just stand aside and wait for the product it should have been. Whether that's a Second release edition or whatever the next entry/remake in the series is, I only hope it takes the lessons from this game, and runs with it somewhere it deserves to be. Also have you heard of the unbeatable champion?
@@RampagingFlippy030 he bring it up as a negative to only say that he doesn't care about it. And he didn't bring up other negative points. But whatever. Pokemon is good and anyone that says otherwise is a biased hater.
@@jowysw He only doesn't care because everyone brings it up to rag on Pokemon....y'know like politics. And besides, he did complain about the Y-comm and the online anyway. Did you watch the video or did skip to the end so you can complain about him not calling SWSh a mess? Don't put words in my mouth, pricklord.
I'm just worried. If this game has so many issues as is and didn't live up to its potential, what does that mean for future games? I wonder if the problems not fixed yet, or even introduced this gen, will ever be addressed, or if the removed moves/Pokémon will ever return. It's really uncertain - I sure hope they're given the time they need to fully develop these games.
Since people apperantly can't critize those issues without being haters and Pokemon always sells those problems have a chance to reappear in multiple games in the future.
Fun fact, the devs werent going to even have a Wild Area in the original game. Corperate told them that they had to due to the reception of Let's Go, so they had to delete a lot of work just to make it. And yes, this is 100% believeable. Remember what happened to KH3? An engine switch made them lose a YEAR of progress, and had to start from scratch. Game deveopment is broken, man.
@@zacharylandrum4789 I mean, does he really need to explain that his opinions have changed? Even if that were the case, I recall from his Blessed or Messed video on Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee mentioned him being disappointed that Mega Evolutions don't get introduced until the 8th gym. If his opinion on Mega Evolutions didn't change from 6 years ago, why would that be a point against the games for him?
About Move deletion: It's going to be for importing pokemon into Sword/Shield. Also the worst offender imo is that Vespiquen lost Heal Order. She still gets Attack and Guard Order but can't use Heal Order because it got deleted. WHY?
Hopefully, whenever gen 9 gets announced, it won't be quite as much of a controversial topic. If there is one thing I could wish for, it would be that the devs are given more time than just 1 year. Even though it can and has been done right, it's a challenging amount of time to work with.
Reno Kyrie my bad, I meant I still haven’t bought the game yet, not that the game came out late because that definitely isn’t the case lol Gave me a good idea for a better comment though, so thanks for the edit
I feel like the complete absence of plot deserved a 5 on the negative side. The writing hasn't been this weak since Gen 1. Most of the interesting story telling in the game came from design choices, like Hop's wild team changes in the middle of the game. Everything the characters said was either generic or just... nonsense.
4:00 **Insert MGS sound effect here** ... Consider me excited. **Spoiler** Ah, I see you're team Cinderace, mien Miniòn. I tip my non-existant hat to you, we have similar taste in starters...
I'm Team Scorbunny too, but I pity picked Sobble since no one liked Inteleon _(which is pretty unfair, Secret Agent Lizard's awesome in his own right.)_ I did eventually Masuda breed me a Shiny rabbit to make up for the one that went to Hop.
@@midnight_matter8707 I'm nothing but anxiety and Sobble appears to be essentially me as a cute water lizard Pokemon. Of course I'm going to pick Sobble! Now if there was only a way for me to get Zacian and the rest of the Galar Starter Trio after I complete the main story and post game...
@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 To me, Intelleon is Galar's equivalent to Greninja, and I'm not sure why. Through an equivalent to GTS (if Sword and Shield even has one for all I know), were you able to get a good trade for Scorbunny or no? When I complete the main story and post-game, I'm planning to get the rest of the starters and the opposite mascot legendary like I did in Sun and Moon and Ultra Sun and Moon. I really hope I can do that in someway in Sword and Shield...
@@opusmagnus26 The other two Starters are no problem at all. Just do surprise trades on a regular basis and you're bound to have one of each in a couple different languages. Getting the other dog will be a bit trickier though. If it were me, I'd only Trade for the data and give it back. I don't care how psychotically good Zacian is compared to her more Defensive-based younger brother. I'm not taking another player's dog for keeps unless they're wiping their save to start over anyway and don't mind or care. Also, there is no GTS- I know, I was crestfallen about that too. Something recommended to me but I've been putting off since I'm lazy; you should look into making a Discord account if you haven't already. might come in handy for specific Trades.
The Wild Area and Dynamax Raid Battles are a blessed for me. Now I can capture Pokémon that can only evolve through trading.. since I have no friends. ;u; But for real though, I can definitely go along with Logan’s opinion. It’s a great game, but it definitely needs improvement. Here’s to the next generation that will *hopefully* fix these problems.
Who knows Logan, with the upcoming Isle of Armour and Crown Tundra DLC's on the horizon maybe you'll see your Shiny Scizor and first ever starter again
One of the think I’m surprised you never talked about was the region layout, I feel like it was really lack luster, specifically the routes. Routes felt boring compared to the amazing wild area and had almost nothing interesting in them. Another thing, no post game areas, even the battle tower some how is included in the main story.
I believe the GTS should be a red +3 Yes those turds existed, but I always ignored them and laughed. But it sucks that you now need to buy both games OR have a friend who has the other version to get version exclusives. Also... 20 minutes for an online battle? Come on. That's like bieng forced to eat a tower of pancakes while you're on a hurry to get somewhere, it's not gonna feel good.
Happy to see someone else who likes Rose as a character, I really do think hes interesting I only used 1 team of 6 and dont really remember being overleveled, Piers was a close match and Leon beat me 3 times I hate Ycomm. I try to join Giga raids to catch em... and I dont get the update until said raids are ready filled or gone with no prior way of knowing
I honestly didn't see his betrayal coming. This is the dude who wore a cyan Pokéball patterned pair of shorts and has a potbelly. And I can relate to his sudden rushed nature of awakening Eternatus. He was overtly worrying about the future, fearing that the power shortage would come at anytime. Sure, it was said to happen in a thousand years or so, but fate has a tendency to fuck people over. Sure, he wasn't justified by his actions, but he had a character that I could personally relate to, so he'll have a special place in my heart.
@@wobblewokgaming655 plus I liked how he wasnt actually evil like the previous villains Yes his actions were reckless and he hurt people, but he seemed like the "end justifies the means" sorta person
Yeah I did a second playthrough where I only did rare max raid battles and had to beat 1 gym per day. I used a really weird team with vespiquen and ninetales. I beat Raihan's gym with levels in the high 40's and I went back and finished my first profile. I saw Leon lead with a level 64 Aegislash. I was 17 levels behind. Game is tough if you want it to be. Also, Rose slots in as my favorite villain in the series above Ghetsis, as although N is my favorite and is technically a villain I guess, I see him more as a rival.
Honestly my biggest, relatively minor nitpick is the model sizes. I absolutely cannot stand a console title not giving accurate sizes to the Pokémon models, like I can understand why the models for Pokémon were shrunk in the 3DS games, the screen was small and wouldn’t have been able to fit or even barely _run_ most of these models, but this is the _Switch_ we’re talking about! Gimme my accurately sized Tyranitar! Honestly the biggest offender is Eternatus. You see it in a cutscene as this gigantic, intimidating, rotten dragon corpse of a Pokémon thats as long as a goddamned school bus, and five seconds later you’re fighting six foot lizard bones like come _on_
In my opinion Pokemon Sword and Shield can be summed up in a few sentences; It's a rushed game, but, it's a good rushed game. It's rough around the edges, yes, but it still is a shining jewl despite it's obvious flaws... Back durning 5 gen I was thinking about how some Pokemon were only available after the post game, I then thought ' with Pokemon being so popular, there may come a time where the Pokemon devs won't be able to put every Pokemon in the same game... that's gonna happen eventually'...I was unfortunately right... I still think Sword and Shield are amazing games... But like the weapons the games were named after, thay still needed more time in the forge, despite their already good quality... Contraversial opinion: Marnie, out of all the rivals in Sword and Shield, in my opinion... Is the least develope. She still cool, but I feel like she needed more time to shine.
I really feel like he did great too. After playing through Shield myself (expect for battle tower, I want to shake up my team for that) I think that we had some of the best rivals in a long time. Having them all come full circle and seeing how the world impacted them and your actions did and the actions with each other. It was really nice, to be fully honest. I would've loved to see more of Marnie and have a bit more growth on the Bede level, but it doesn't bug me much at all as she was a great rival and had the most busted support cheering in the game. As for the national dex...meh? I know the feeling of losing your friends along the games and being scared of seeing them vanish for good, but I don't discount Gamefreak to just let you never bring them back. Maybe this game isn't where they'll show up, but they'll come back in another, and they seem to want to be sure to bring them with, no matter how far back you got them. I really hope they do more with the series in the future, but now I just want them to be able to work on the game for longer than they were allowed on this one.
@@startouchedFeline lucky for me, my top six Pokemon (Pokemon I would want on my team) all got in Sword and Shield, but I know some people's favorites didn't get in... This time. Marnie is a good rival...just not on the level of Hop or Bed, who had full on in-depth character arch. I did like all the stuff they did with Marnie, but I feel like there was some miss potential. For crying out loud Piers had more time for characterization, Marnie just needed more time to shine. Out of all the rivals, I guess you could say, Marnie is the most Pokemon rival out of the rivals in Sword and Shield.
Ooof, the comments I made have not aged well-especially those concerning Jowe. I’m sorry if I painted myself as a mindless consumer...because that’s not what I wanted to be known as. I openly admit...Sword and Shield are far from perfect. Yes, the draw distance is not ideal. Yes, some of the designs are AWFUL in the environments. But it’s those flaws and accepting them that make me enjoy the upsides more. Hopefully this clears any bad blood between us...
I still haven't bought it But i absolutely hate how they decide that cut dexes is how they want to move forward Post release updates to add every pokemon is very much a possibility and the only thing stopping them from doing it is not caring. Now whenever there's a pokemon i like I'll think to myself why bother if there's the possibility that they'll just get cut out only a few years later
You make a pretty good point. Who's to say they won't add something specifically for one game, but the only Pokemon you actually wanted to use for that feature got cut? That would suck. Also, thanks for the Ed, Edd, and Eddy nostalgia with your pic👍
@@darkmoon2503 it happened even now cuz the feature to change a pokémon's nature, I'd really like to use on my shiny chansey so that i could use it in battle But i can't cuz chansey isn't in the game.
Adham Was Here Something tells me nature changing is one of those rare cool features they actually decide to keep for future releases. I'd imagine your Chansey will get her *chance* someday. ...But if I'm wrong and they remove it for some bullcrap reason, like so many other features, my disappointment with Gamefreak will reach depths I didn't know existed.
@@darkmoon2503 yeah Another thing that disappoints me is that i don't know when chansey will be available again It could be soon or could be 3 generations from now There's no real way of knowing It's like a friend that you can't see and do anything with and the only thing your friend or parents say is that you MIGHT see them soon in the future
I honestly didn't enjoy Sword and Shield. Yes, the cutscenes are gorgeous, yes, the characters are all interesting, but it didn't feel like it was MY story i was telling. Everything plot relevant was happening without the player and I felt like a side character for someone else's story the who went and stole the spotlight at the very end. The legendaries and Big Bad Evil Team weren't even MENTIONED until AFTER you beat the eighth Gym. Even the player's whole motivation for becoming a trainer in the first place was just: Your childhood friend wants to be Ash, you be Gary. F***ing. What. Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
Yes, but it comes with the drawback of not being permanent and protect acts similarly do Z-moves where you only do a tiny bit of damage. Also, it doesn't bypass focus sash, so pokemon reliant on that kinda got a buff in a sense. Another thing I like is that it can absolutely destroy the annoying ass stall teams if used properly. But seriously, PLEASE NERF THE CHOICE ITEM INTERACTION. That is my only real problem with this mechanic.
Hey, I bet it's a fun game. But I can't dictate how fun it is when I have to pay $60 in order to find that fun. I'll wait for the next games, because I don't really want to support something I feel is just a 3DS game. Power to you all who play it, though. Have fun. 👍
Am I the only person who hates it when the National Dex is brought up? The excuse has been ABUSED to kingdom come at this point. It's honestly why I prefer Yo-kai Watch to Pokémon. Didn't stop me from getting both Sword and Shield, tho...
People bring it up because game freaks reason to cute the pokemon is because for better animation. Which is a lie most animation are form sun and moon or pokemon just do barely any animations.
I still feel games these days should prioritize fun more than anything else cause I feel that's the most important aspect of a game especially these days cause I'll be honest outside of that aspect anything else about a game us just icing on top of a cake.
@@MxPokirby You do realize at the end of the day a conversation about fun factor is heavily subjective right? Not everyone is the same on opinions that's pretty much a fact. Especially when considering everyone views Pokemon differently.
@@MxPokirby I mean, that's what I think every Nintendo game is about, personally. Just having fun. And hell, I've had a lot of fun WATCHING people play the game. But that's me. Sorry you couldn't enjoy it as much as I did.
My biggest issue with the new Pokemon games is that they are just stagnant and have frankly been that way since Gen 6. It's not that they're bad, it's Pokemon for Christ's sake making a "bad" mainline Pokemon game is next to impossible, it's just that its competition is getting much better and more appealing. Why should I fork over $60 and an additional $30 if I wanted to play the DLC just to experience practically the same thing that I have been for the past decade when I could instead buy something like FE: 3 Houses, FF7R, Monster Hunter Rise, Monster Hunter Stories 2, DQ11, Xenoblade Chronicles DE, Bug Fables, ect. And that's what I fear most with this series. Pokemon is so big nowadays that they don't need to shoot for the moon to realistically make a big profit and TPC seems content with just making a "good" game when in the past they would've gone for fantastic. Maybe they'll prove me wrong this year for their 25th anniversary or for Gen 9 but right now I'm going to be looking at their next mainline projects with much scrutiny.
I'm gonna say it: You were too generous with the game. It has glaring issues like Brokemax, lack of story, removing content for nothing and lack of postgame. I TRIED to look at it with good eyes but is just a bad game by switch standars.
I feel the only reason he didn’t mention how rediculously difficult or unreasonable some of the evolutionary conditions are is because he likes the more silly ones.
My team in this Gen honestly is my favorite. I’ve never actually tried to strategize before with my teams, really just tanking everything with my Starter and one other Pokemon. But I dunno why, this one inspired my to actually treat my team like...well, a team. I love this one.
GD Omar Yeah? And? You can be competitive and still like the game too. Plenty of my friends are competitive and love it. And there’s not really a problem with playing a Pokemon game casually.
GD Omar Yeah the game normally is too easy. But, competitive players usually you know- play against other people? The game’s difficulty itself isn’t gonna change the skills of players. Plus, again, you can’t literally just say “not this game”. I know tons of people who love competitive gameplay and love this game. Competitive or casual gameplays don’t really matter in this case. It just depends on if you actually have fun the way you play. If you didn’t, that’s fine! Just don’t try to talk for a group of people like you represent an entire half of the community.
GD Omar See that’s entirely fair. I’m just saying, you’re still allowed to like this game even competitively. But, yeah I get the complaints. Dynamaxing definitely isn’t all too balanced, and the timer not being changeable is dumb.
@@senabea Very true. It goes to show that Gamefreak is constantly turning a blind eye to the single battle format despite the fact that 90% the main story is composed of single battles. They really should've put more thought into the balancing for both singles and doubles, rather than just one format imo.
@@its_just_an_opinion_bro But then why would they add Court Change? I feel like they gave their focus to VGC play but gave just a little bit to singles but it clearly wasn't enough
@@DaVideoGameBeastr They also added Heavy Duty Boots, yet proceed to make 6 vs 6 single battles take 20 minutes at most. To put that into perspective, the average 6 vs 6 battle would take between 25-30 minutes (assuming each player isn't picking their moves quickly). 1 step forward, 2 steps back.
Yearly releases need to stop being a thing.
Nuff said
Very true. GF needs to stop prioritizing merch as the prime reason for yearly entries, cause it's hurting them in the longrun.
@@thatdudebro9918 gf only makes the games, not the merch. That's TPC
@@blitz4779 Then TPC, same argument towards them though
@@blitz4779 They still have influence to them though, so it's not like they have no power to decide releases.
@@zjzr08 they dont. Nintendo and TPC make the release dates. That's why pokemon has been on a one year release schedule. The people who own gf make that schedule. Whether its Nintendo or TPC idk, but I'm leaning towards TPC
There was an adventure going on behind the scenes of the Gym Challenges.
And it was Leon and Sonia who got to enjoy much of it.
Aaaand ye just summed up my biggest problem with 'ze game.
I am really disappointed that we never got to battle Sonia. It is stated a couple of times that she was Leon’s main rival back in the day. The fact that Leon is one of the strongest trainers in the world indicates that Sonia was probably a really strong trainer too, so I would have LOVED to see more Pokemon she owned, instead of only seeing her with a little Yamper
Sword and Shield feel like they wanted to be fantastic, but low development time and probably mediocre programming kept them from being the very best they could. Swsh put so much emphasis on spectacle that it's hard to believe they didn't at least try their best.
Concepts does seem great, but the execution seemingly is a mixed bag -- wonder if something a bit basic would've sufficed at the moment, as long as they were executed well (like would a Let's Go overworld with Sword & Shield mechanics suffice?).
@@zjzr08 I don't think that would've been enough. People were wanting innovation out of swsh, and i think the overworld And wild areas were made for that purpose. People were expecting swsh to be the biggest and best looking Pokemon games yet, so other areas like the dex had to suffer for them to fit in these innovations. They bit off too much to chew and didn't get the time to swallow it all.
It felt like it had sonic forces quality..... which is NOT something any game should want.
No...just no. Do not compare Gen VIII to the insult that is Sonic Forces. At least Sword and Shield actually tried to be a fun video game that respected what came before.
@@smashmaster521 I've started playing sonic forces recently and it is surprisingly like swsh. They are both mediocre games that try to do something innovative with the series (making everything bigger and more grand with swsh and an attempt at a much more mature story with forces, even if forces did a bad job), but both can at least be enjoyed as fun to play. Forces also feels a bit rushed, just like swsh.
You've pretty much summed up my feelings with this. But one flaw that I still can't get over is that regular Pokemon can't use their Gigantamax forms. You HAVE to catch a Gigantamax Pokemon from specific raids. The Corviknight, Coalossal and Toxtricity I had on my team that I had with me for my entire journey just don't get to use Gigantamax, and that really sucks. It's directly the opposite of the series' most hammered down messages: It doesn't matter whether what's objectively the "best" way to battle, the bonds you share with your friends are what are really important. Kinda hard to say that with a straight face when you're basically telling me to trash one of my team members because they aren't allowed to do the special transformation that's exclusive to their species.
THIS.
I agree, at least Megas doesn't discriminate in a species, which are already had their own power structure with IVs built in.
SilverJakler the thing is, many Gigantamax Pokémon are worse then the dynamax ones. They have the same stats, just different effects in the moves and appearances. Your Corviknight is better of normal, same with charizard and many more.
1ts2EZ I still believe that you should have the option to make your Pokémon able to gigantamax Pokémon you caught during your playthrough. Perhaps we could have gotten an item like the dynamax candies from doing gigantamax raids, needing to complete raids of the specific Pokémon you want to be able to gigantamax. By making it so that you need to do the raid of the Pokémon you want to gigantamax, this allows them to both give us the ability to gigantamax our playthrough Pokémon, while still allowing gamefreak to do events with mons that currently have unavailable gigantamax forms.
Yeah, they could at least let us turn in our Dynamax Candies for an item that lets us make eligible Pokémon Gigantamaxable, because lord knows we get more Dynamax Candies than we actually use
Can we appreciate HOW DAMN ARTICULATE HE SOUNDS????????????????????
Like we didn’t appreciate it already?
@@pokeblue596 well let's appreciate it again
I think that's why we're all here. His wordplay is like no other.
How did you not mention the fact that we FINALLY got a dark type gym leader??
And an incredible one at that!
I couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw the NPC dialogue refer to the Spikemuth leader as a dark type specialist
And he refuses to dynamax his Pokémon, even when it's possible.
And despite that he can actually hold his own.
Wait... didnt't Sun and Moon had a dark type Kahuna? (or trial captain?)
Jowe true, but Kahunas aren’t quite the same as gym leaders
Yeah, you’ve pretty much summed up all my thoughts on Sword and Shield:
As a whole, very enjoyable, but the finer parts of it make it obvious that the devs were forced to cut corners.
(like all the Pokemon games since X&Y)
@@jowysw I don't know about that. I mean, Sun and Moon were pretty sound to me.
@@Source-Z-rer The region was kinda small and railroded for my tastes. Although it had more content than SWSH. It probably helped that 2015 didn't have any mainline Pokemon game. We had 4 years in a row with one mainline Pokmeon game each year. That's not a good schedule.
@@jowysw Yeah, I agree that there should be at least a break between games.
@@Source-Z-rer but, since it works because people continue defending this rushed games, I won't be surprised they release another new mainline Pokemon game next year.
Can I just say I love Opal? I normally don’t like anything associated with the Fairy Type (except Mimikyu), but Opal is just too damn energetic and fun. Also, seeing her freak out about Bede’s pinkness has me laughing absurdly.
Dragon's Beard Gamer that made me laugh, I just wasn’t expecting it at all.
I just like the fact that she appears out of no where a lot of the times you see her.
PINK
Yeah Opal is easily my favorite gym leader here. She's crazy, smart, and is a massive troll as well with the gym questions XD. "What is my age?" I was dead on the floor.
Opal is the greatest boomer to ever exist tbh
I wish these games weren’t released yearly. Three years in between is preferred.
For me, this game is the epitome of "style over substance." All of the positives I've seen made about this video game are mainly ones that revolve around the aesthetics or just general eye candy, namely the Camping and Gigantamaxing. In terms of visuals, they're a great appeal, but when you dive into their gameplay purposes, they're pretty pointless. Definitely cool and charming the first go around, but not something to really come back to; again, just like the game itself. It's good as a first time, but nothing really more than that.
One complaint i have is how the primary conflict comes so late in these games. Having the climax come RIGHT before your champion battle is far too late, and it kinda feels like it rushes through the rose arc.
PikaCinema in that case, it really feels worse to shove it in at the end, you’re better off not including it at all if you aren’t gonna make it a focus like Gen 7 did.
@PikaCinema then why not have Sordward and Shielbert appear sooner so theres justification for the good bois to show up and have you and Hop then use them against Eternatus before the league begins instead of the "oh wait, real quick I forgot about this" the story ended up doing with everything.
@PikaCinema My point is that the justification should move happened sooner for pacing reasons and so you can use the pokemon that's on the box before the game ends. The way the story flip flops back and forth in the third act is comparable to a fanfiction. Two different primary stories are happening and instead of having one play out then the other, they have break up the story beats and order them in a ABABAB format with no consideration for how they would transition between each other. It's like if in Back to the Future Marty Mcfly was trying to get his parents to get together, then suddenly he has to deal with Buford the old west outlaw, then suddenly we're back to seeing Marty set his parents up. You see how that doesn't flow at all? And no, the fact that it's "realistic" for things to happen unexpectedly In real life doesn't justify bad story telling because the writers are in full control.
And don't forget we finally got our dark type gym leader
It's still interesting that it's still related to the "villainous team" though, but it is a great twist (and more natural than Giovanni's in Kanto).
And our poison type legendary
Kabu my homeboy repping Hoenn
*Casually unleashes Zombie invasion on Hoenn*
"I promise the next episode won't be about Pokémon"
*Pokémon DLC gets announced*
Ha! That’s what I was thinking.
I'm shocked that you didn't bring up the 20 mins on Single Battles for online or there's no VS. Recorder.
But yeah, I can agree that they were rushed and I did had fun playing them, but something deep down inside wanted them to be better.
Also, I been noticing the lack of F-Bombs in your videos. Not a problem, just shocked. LOLz
This game may have gotten a lot of controversy, but is very enjoyed by many and I think I see why that is.
It’s standard Pokémon of course people will have fun with it
So they won't ever improve and they will continue to rush games since they can get away with it.
That's the problem though... Peel back the paint and you'll see the statue is sub-par at best. I played Dragon Quest 11 instead of Sw/Sh, and the difference between it and modern Pokemon is night and day. I personally think Gen 5 was the best JRPG at the time of its release. Where did it go so wrong that a franchise that's only highly popular in one country overtook it so far in quality? And that's not even mentioning Persona 5, which has profits that are dwarfed by both. Pokemon should be so much more, and I think Game Freak would agree. However, the higher ups in decision making have turned Pokémon into a cash cow, and Game Freak has to work incredibly fast to keep up with demand. As long as we keep buying these games Game Freak won't get the time they deserve and we, the fans, won't get the best product we possibly could. Not to mention maybe the higher ups would start making high quality high effort deep spinoffs again, like Colosseum, Ranger, Mystery Dungeon and the earlier Rumbles. The only one we've gotten in recent times is Pokken. Everyone is free to like this game, but I just can't support it. Fans and creators are hurt when corporate gets greedy and tries to make as much money as it can in as little time as it can.
@@epiccarrot88 The ironic thing is that Dragon Quest is usually critized for being too oldschool and not evolving much.
But Pokemon XD
@@jowysw Sure Dragon Quest has kept a lot of its core elements, such as turn based combat, but it's been expanded in so many areas to keep being fun and entertaining to play. The locations, characters, story, monster (and everything else) designs, voice acting, music (11s at least), the amount of weapons, the forge, the amount of dialogue that changes as you go through the game, the free-roam camera, the open world... It keeps everything fans of the genre like about the classic games while improving upon them, adding new stuff and taking away things most people don't like. Heck, even with the turn-based combat, you can let the computer control your team-mates if you don't want to manage multiple party members. And by the end of the post-game my highest level characters were nearly at max level. That's something Pokémon could really do to improve: rather than giving us items to fix the flaws of leveling, why not have the levels of Pokémon be around 90 by the end of the game, and adjusting the levels Pokémon evolve at and the amount of experience it takes to level up to compensate?
Hence the issue. People don't wanna accept that other monster collectors exist so they'll take absolutely anything.
The worst game I've enjoyed this year. Do read this sentence carefully. It's so obvious that there were great ideas here: The characters are fun, the world's pleasantly designed, and the new pokemon designs are cool...But there's a HUGE lack of polish that I'm normally used to in all of Nintendo's games: Huge FPS drops despite looking like a mobile game, lots of non-animations for things that really should have them etc.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. For me, I feel like the whole idea for these games has so much potential, but that potential is never truly taken advantage of. I feel like they could’ve done so much more, but didn’t.
Hoping they improve but seeing this happened before, people can't complain about it without being called haters and people always buy them I guess they won't.
Honestly, one of the most fair, even-sided reviews for SwSh I've come across since its release. Other reviews either gush nonstop over the same few bullet points and nothing else, or bash these games so hard against the wall that they only serve to spread the toxicity even further among the fanbase. But with this review, he makes sure to address EVERY issue with equal treatment, BOTH good AND bad. Logan, kudos for making a justified review acknowledging the highs and lows of these games fairly and NOT just being a pile of fanboy-ing or cutthroat belittling. 😄👍
You mean the toxtricity in the fan base
@@tomasstringer7200 I wanted to make the pun honestly, but I forgot how to spell it 😂
@@thatdudebro9918 it was the perfect joke
@@tomasstringer7200 ik ikk! 😭😭
I disagree. This review seemed fairly biased imo since he failed to mention a few notable flaws in the game. For example, he didn't really mention that 6v6 single battles have a 20 minute time limit, which completely butchers an entire battle format.
He had given some positive aspects a +4 or +5 when it is fairly undeserved in my eyes.
My problem with Sw/Sh is that if you peel back the paint, you'll see the statue is sub-par at best. I played Dragon Quest 11 instead of Sw/Sh, and the difference between it and modern Pokemon is night and day. I personally think Gen 5 was the best JRPG at the time of its release. Where did it go so wrong that a franchise that's only highly popular in one country overtook it so far in quality? And that's not even mentioning Persona 5, which has profits that are dwarfed by both. Pokemon should be so much more, and I think Game Freak would agree. However, the higher ups in decision making have turned Pokémon into a cash cow, and Game Freak has to work incredibly fast to keep up with demand. As long as we keep buying these games Game Freak won't get the time they deserve and we, the fans, won't get the best product we possibly could. Not to mention maybe the higher ups would start making high quality high effort deep spinoffs again, like Colosseum, Ranger, Mystery Dungeon and the earlier Rumbles. The only one we've gotten in recent times is Pokken. Everyone is free to like this game, but I just can't support it. Fans and creators are hurt when corporate gets greedy and tries to make as much money as it can in as little time as it can.
Also the song that the Wild Areas were revealed with in that trailer is an absolute jam.
The lamentation of megas being gone and game devs needing to be given more time made me smile a little, now that Pokemon Legends Z-A is coming out next year
*sets up flame shields*
I like Sword and Shield, despite its flaws and horrible prerelease period.
Nothing wrong with that.
Me too. *flame shield up too* :)
I mean if you want to throw your money into the fire go ahead. Just know that I won't be.
@@Superluigi881 Okay. That's fine.
I agree with you for the most part, but I feel like you were a little too generous with the +5s. The Pokemon designs here are really good, but they’re not all perfect imo. It’s about on par with SM which has my 2nd favorite designs in the series.
Also, what? Dynamaxing is (moslty) balanced? Did we play the same game?
He does bring up the Choice Scarf exploit, so there's that.
Not to mention some "positives" are actually negatives. Dynamax is AWFUL, the game looks terrible and some designes are just BAD (I'm looking at you, dracovish).
“You can’t accidentally cancel stone evolutions”? I’m replaying FireRed and I tried purposefully cancelling a Stone evolution and it still evolved as normal.
Sword and Shield was one of 2019's most controversial games
*Messed*
Sword and Shield has a song composed by Toby Fox himself
*_Blessed_*
Good song but Marines is better imo
Agreed
Edit: I mean agreed to the blessed messed opinions
Sword and Shield gives us good bois like Snom, Pincurchin, Yamper and Applin
*_U L T R A B L E S S E D_*
Begone redditor
One Toby Fox song isn't enough to get me interested. Even Megalovaniacs should know this.
I feel like you should pull it back a bit with the rating numbers.
Sticker star (deservedly) got the first -4 but since then,you seem more inclined to give other not as impotent topics a +4/-4.
So now if you want to make something sound exiting you give it a 5...
And eventually you'll give it a 6 once more stuff gets 5's
And so on and so forth. (Great video but a just hope the numbers don't get too bloated in the future!)
I definitely think +5/-5 is where it should cap. Anymore, and it starts to lose value.
I intended the score to go as high as 5 from the beginning, just wanted to wait for the right time to break it in.
Oh, and that's as high as they're going. So, don't worry about that.
@@FawfulsMinionCountdowns Power creep scare averted.
@@FawfulsMinionCountdowns 👍
Ok you dont have to be passive agressive about sticker star. Its. It like the pm fanbase is waiting to jump you for not disrespecting the game
Logan: "How's the soundtrack?"
Game Freak: "We turned Gene Simmons into a pokemon, the soundtrack is kickass."
@@zacharylandrum4789 WHAT?!
*ETERNUS PHASE 3 MUSIC PLAYS* YOU DARE CALL THIS SONG FORGETTABLE?
I can definitely imagine the time constraints GameFreak have to go through when making these games on a yearly release ever since Sun and Moon, even with the production in mind. Giving them an extra year will definitely polish up the game to make them the best games possible! Plus, this is *MUCH* better than people spamming “Bring Back National Dex” to the developers as it gives GameFreak the feedback they need to improve future games without getting harassed with threats and false allegations as doing that will make GameFreak unmotivated with making this amazing series as the controversy did affect the developer's morale when making the games. Let's do the right thing.
Could I ask what the false allegations are?
StickMaster500 agreed
zjzr08 False rape allegations from a “former GameFreak employee” that came up as soon as the National Dex controversy came about.
Gamefreak is quite incompetent at times, but they can make great games as long as they have enough time to do so. I blame The Pokemon Company. There's so much potential here, but it's all been ruined by ridiculous time restraints.
@@StickMaster500If you're talking about the Masuda allegations, they were denounced by all parts of the community, and found that it's more of a simple internet troll.
We wish you a Fawful Christmas
We wish you a Fawful Christmas
We wish you a Fawful Christmas
And a fury new year.
@Mofter Mof no. I meant Fury. Lime the phrase. "I have fury.".
No that's gonna be a bad year
Oh well
@Mofter Mof uh
*no evidence of furrism*
Boi i came quicker than speed form deoxys using extreme speed when I saw the notification
What I don't understand is why they flat out refused to add cut Pokemon and moves back into the game with waves of patches. I mean they literally reused Sun and Moon's models so it's just a matter of animating them and creating new effects for moves. I guarantee people wouldn't be so mad if they did that, because yeah almost 1000 Pokemon is definitely a lot to handle and people would probably understand needing to create a base of half and add the others later.
But not only are they not doing that afaik I believe they also said they are going to limit the dex in all future releases from now on, which is a move I really don't think is smart because we'll just keep getting the same reaction when X Pokemon gets cut and replaced with Y Pokemon.
If I had to guess about that, time crunch is going to be the biggest driver of that. They've basically got to get the best they can out before the timeline for that game runs dry. If I was going to be smart about this, I would do the mons that didn't show up this game and steadily build up the full catalog, then release them all in the next possible game. The mons missing are something they can control, Pokemon Company timelines for the games are something they don't have a choice but to follow
Probably because they have to get cracking on next year's games. The Pokemon Company'll have a stroke if new games don't come out every November apparently.
Further proof that quantity is nothing compared to quality when it comes to game releases I suppose.
@@Walumancer the only thing it's good for is temporary profits
@@cameroncooper5941 and people won't critize it because Pokemon is perfect and if you complain you are a hater.
He named his zacian ‘stabby’. That is amazing.
In comparison to the other mainline Pokemon games it is messed. I think it is average game overall.
Tbh, I haven't even compared it much to any other Pokemon games. I've just been comparing my experience with Shield to my time with other recent Switch releases, and it still comes out messed for me.
Jeez, after all the indiscriminate hating that I've seen for the past few weeks, this is a breath of fresh air
Dragon Gamer Z Oh no you told your opinion in the internet! I can already hear the brain dead typing on how your opinion is wrong
cavalierSpace 30 LMAO! I must brace myself
Dragon Gamer Z agreed. Sure there are problems with the game, and people are entitled to address them as such. But I’ve seen people hating on parts of the game that are done incredibly well (Hop’s character arc was written incredibly well and was a very interesting part of the story, yet I’ve seen so many people say that he was just a clone of hau and leave it like that.) There was plenty of things in this game that was done well, but too many people only see the negatives.
Blaze Never have I agreed with something so much before
@@Blaze-nm1uh people said that of Hop because of how it comes across early on and how much it interrupts you. It doesn't help it reuses the same animations from Hau.
I really wished Sword and shield could have been better
It had the best new Pokémon they add(including galarian forms)
It had the best gym
Best soundtrack because we are blessed by Toby fox
But everything else involving National dex, Dynamax, Gigantamax, Gen 1 pandering/fanservice with Charizard, Gengar, Meowth, Eevee, Pikachu, and Snorlax
Finally the most boring story since everything just thrown at you without good reasoning, and uninteresting Champion, villian, and rival
Well only Hop because Marnie and Bede are WAY better as a rival
Lysandre and Lusamine was more interesting and reasonable compare to what Gen 8 is
Im not gonna judge you fot not liking it, this is just my takes
Dynamax/Gigantamax is based on how a lot of European myths are giants and stuff, and while i dont see it as a good replacement megas (not Z-Moves, i dont really care imo)
There was a LOT of stuff outside of Kanto reps, specifically for Unova and kinda Sinnoh and Johto)
The idea for the story was AMAZING, even if it was meh
Leon was actually super cool for me, a really cool champion overall
Hop's character development is some of the best in the entire series, meanwhile Bede is like they were trying too hard to have a mean rival again, it wasnt horrible but he was the weakest for me
But i cant lie that the national dex was annoying
Well if you guys think Hop and Leon are good, well thats great to hear
Because some people do enjoy them, but some also dont seem to enjoy them xD
@PikaCinema Hop is just Hau 2.0. Even with the same animations
@PikaCinema It's just another happy go lucky BEST FRIEND 'rival" that interrupts you two times at every route. I ended up more annoyed with his story at the end because of that.
@@jowysw So? Whats wrong with that archetype of rival? Plus i wouldnt describe Hop as that at all, he's more in the leagues of Barry, Hugh, and Marnie who are your friends but aren't up in your face about it, they show their rival side off happily and with loads of pride, yet still giving you a friendship, and that's probably my favorite type of Rival
Ok minor point: but the pokeball button was in Gen 7, unless it's been changed idk. Overall I agree with everything. I don't hold anything against GameFreak here. I put the blame on the Pokemon Company for insisting that the first main Switch Pokemon games follow their strict release schedule. I was in favor of the dex cut if it helped the games perform better/let GF flush out mechanics more, but that didn't really happen this time. The Pokemon designs are top notch, my favs include the Applin line, Falinks, and G Darmanitan. However, I don't fully agree with the sixty dollar price, especially considering they're rushed. It lead me to decide to pass on these games, which is sad because I was really excited for them. I just don't want to support sacrificing quality for annual releases: that's not Pokemon.
You can select any ball with that shortcut
For Gen 7, the Specific Button for the Pokeballs was on the Touch Screen, though I think it did have an acyion button assigned to it. The difference is, the button brought up your Pokeball Bag Menu, whereas the Gen 8 Pokeball Button brings up a shortcut to the list WITHOUT opening the menu.
@@ChaoticTeen16 action* button assigned to it?
So an alternative catching style?
My biggest problem with sword and shield is honestly just the small things that make it seem unprofessional. Like how time stops when you get on a ladder or sit on a bench. Or how every single Gigantamax form has a physical attack animation... that they will never use in battle. Or the god forsaken MOUSE CURSOR that literally appears in the credits. It's stuff like that that turns me off. That feeling of seeing them trying to shove a game out so fast that they can't even check Zamazenta's model to make sure that his cape doesn't clip into his body just feels infuriating.
(Also while I agree for the most part with the characters thing Marnie is hot Garbodor shit in terms of personality and importance)
While I disagree with the personality thing, I completely agree with Marnie being unimportant. You see more of Team Yell than you do her, and she doesn't even do anything that important (involving her story or the main story) until near the end of the game. *What*
@@Source-Z-rer I feel like she lacks a lot of things. She has less battles with you in the main story than Bede, who, might i remind you, is disqualified from the gym challenge and dragged off to go train with Opal halfway through the story. Marnie gets less than him despite being able to be around more. What makes me say Marnie has no personality is how she feels... basic. Like, how does she feel towards team yell? Oh they're just a fanbase who sometimes gets a little too riled up at times. She doesnt feel annoyed by them constantly watching her, nor does she get defensive of them. She takes the most plain, simple, nonconfrontational road of, "they're good but they make mistakes." And that feeling of "taking the easiest possible route" feels repeated over and over with Marnie. Why does she reject Piers' offer to be Spikemuth's gym leader? Because she cant if she'll be champion, duh! Her card literally says "Though many in Spikemuth see her as a local celebrity, she herself has no interest in pursuing fame. However, she says she does appreciate the support of Team Yell, her personal cheering squad." So... what you're saying is that she doesnt want to be famous but doesnt mind the downside to being famous, that being obnoxious clingy fans? And also, if one of the reasons you'd want to be champion is to breathe life back into your hometown, then why would you say you're not pursuing fame?! Isnt that the reason you're becoming champion? To become famous enough that you can bring in tourists and money to spikemuth and help it get better? Why doesnt even say that you dont want fame, it's clear that you dont seem to care at all about followers and crowds chanting for you. The card doesnt even say whether she likes or dislikes her fans mimicking her accent. She has no interactions with anyone outside of you and team yell, and she never shows any character growth. Shes just there. And even that's incorrect since YOU BARELY EVER SEE HER IN THE GAME!
@@flarecoils1573 Oh, don't even get me started on that! I felt that both Bede and Marnie should have gotten more battles with you so you could at least get more of their story or personality, but with Marnie especially it feels like she just kinda exists in the story as an unimportant side character. Even when you get to Spikemuth, it just comes across as another roadblock to clear instead of a major area to go to for story purposes. I feel it comes down to the story of SwSh itself, where most of the major plot events just happen out of seemingly nowhere and then end, like the crap with Chairman Rose. Marnie is absolutely no exception to this. My solution would be to make the campaign last longer and have her battle you more or be around more often, or give her a larger part in the post game, instead of her just practicing her smiling (while that moment was cute, it's all we get in terms of character growth from her. Even Bede has a larger part in the post game). If the story was longer, I think Marnie (and some other characters by extension) could have been more fleshed out with their motivations. I don't think Marnie is a bad character overall, as I see some potential in her and it could have been tapped if the story was handled better in some areas, and I'd honestly rather deal with a character that's missed potential and is just kinda there than a character who has a major role in the story and fucks it up (I don't like Chairman Rose, if you couldn't tell already), but I do agree that Marnie could have been handled WAYYY better, mostly with her role in the story and some of her personality.
@@Source-Z-rer also really dont like how Oleana just blurts out about Eternatus in the most anticlimactic legendary reveal possible.
@@flarecoils1573 I know, right? We get so much backstory and buildup for Zacian and Zamazenta, but almost nothing for Eternatus. Not even a hint that he was behind the Darkest Day from long ago, when that's all that was needed.
Edit: I meant before he was released by Chairman Rose.
14:47 Actuslly if we count regional variants, the total is only 921
Yeah it's clear that gamefreak weren't given the time and that's the biggest issue, I don't get why people think they are greedy, awful people who only care about the bottom line. There's clear passion and creativity in all the installments
How is cutting Pokemon from the games and forcing you to pay for a subscription service, Pokemon Home, to keep your transferred Pokemon hostage until they're finally added to a new game, and likely deleting all of the Pokemon you have deposited if you unsubscribe not "greedy"? Have you thought this through at all?
@@MxPokirby You got it wrong, Gamefreak did really try on this game, but The Pokemon Company (not Gamefreak) gave them a deadline that didn't allow for all of this other content. Gamefreak has no call in Pokemon Home being a subscription service.
Erik Olexy Game Freak had the resources to make something bigger than this
@@mx.e2176 it's not about resources, it's about the amount of time given. They can't do it all in 3 years. Pokemon games used to take about 4-5 years to make, but as the series grows bigger and bigger The Pokemon Company wants games coming out quicker and quicker. Gamefreak can't design A new region, new Pokemon, a new story, new characters, new moves, new gameplay fixes in that timeframe. They have proven with time they can deliver, but now TPC wants a new game every year weather a remake, sister game or new generation.
@@paperluigidrivinthecar5070 Thank you for realizing this. I've always put the blame on the Pokemon Company, not GameFreak. GF is under their thumb. Pokemon may be the highest grossing multimedia franchise in the world, but people forget the *multi* part. The games are only a part of the overall income. They can flop and the PC will just push the plushies and toys and shows and etc.
Also this:
The postgame content is pathetic. While it’s better than XY, it’s a far cry from gen 7’s postgame (particularly Ultra SM), which gave us quite a bit to do with catching Ultra Beasts and Legendaries. In contrast, Galar only gives us a small side story and 1 Legendary to catch after the main game (the single worst gen for Legendary Hunting to date. When XY does something as fun as Legendary hunting better than this game, you know you have messed up hard somewhere) aside from the usual P v NPC Competitive facilities. Considering this is a $60.00 game, I don’t approve of this (+3 for bad).
Edit: also, I think the presentation as a whole is rough. I’m not just talking about graphics- there’s also sound effects. Like, we’re they too lazy to update sound effects?!?!
The reason that Hidden Power was likely removed is for multiple reasons: The Type Calculations for it would likely be really weird with it as Max Moves, I.E., would it be Normal type, or the Type given, and the mints probably fucked the calculations something fierce.
So this brings the question of : will you do blessed or messed on the Dlc for Isle of Armour and The Crown Tundra?
I feel that you gave the games far too much credit for things which should be givens(as in, things that most other franchises take for granted. Let's be real, if just about any other company made pokemon, half the convience changes they made in sword and shield would have been implemented by the time platinum came out. And by the way, they had a dedicated button for poke balls in gen 7.)
Few other comments:
If you think dynamax is balanced, I don't know what fangame you're playing, because it ain't in the slightest. you comment on the choice lock, and its worth noting it. still. gets. the. boost. from. whatever. item. its. holding. There's a reason that both megas and z moves required an item lock, because all three need it to be balanced. Just look at mega rayquaza versus either mega mewtwo. One is banned from ubers, the other is barely used in ubers. one needs the item, one can hold anything but a z crystal. pretty obvious correlation. Either way, dynamax definitely does not deserve a +3. +2 is pushing it.
I don't want to make the "IDK what game you've been playing twice" joke twice, but seriously, how the cinnamon toast f*** is chairman rose "morally fascinating"? He's starting doomsday events in an attempt to stop a problem 1000 years in the future and catching anyone who can prevent mass destruction with their pants down. Speaking of pants, Leon ain't hooking up with cynthia if he doesn't stop wearing short shorts.(No people, Leon does not dress like football players do. I have yet to see any soccer players wear short shorts or a cape. Stop trying to pretend Leon's pitiful attempt at "Fashion" is anything other than a turn off.)
Jeez, three in a row? Team yell is literally the exact same "Bad guys aren't actually bad" trope as team skull. just the same as how Macro cosmos turning out to be the ones causing problems is the same "seemingly benevolent but kinda mysterious figure is secretly the big bad" they pulled with both lusamine and lysandre.
The exp candies, while good for competitive, take an already broken leveling system and subject it to the explosion of a dynamaxed electrode.
You also dodge around the graphics issue, but it is actually quite a big one. If you are cutting a corner as big as the national dex, it makes sense that you would improve in every other area, and we just don't see that in sword and shield. If you upscale the previous games, USUM, 3DS games, they look basically identical to sword and shield, and even arguably better in many areas(and without many of the problems in sword and shield), compared to literally every other console change which improved the graphics considerably, not just upscaling previous graphics, despite a largely reduced workload. and like you say, other franchise advanced their graphics considerably with their moves to the switch. Even when this video released, we had already seen the switch's potential, and sword and shield don't come anywhere near the likes of Breath of the Wild, Smash Ultimate, or Mario Oddessy, which not only look beautiful but blow the graphics of other entries in their franchises out of the water. It's not quite worth +5, but I would definitely have given it +3 or 4.
Also, the regional evolutions, while definitely a plus, barely count as evolutions for the pokemon which need them. Sirfetch'd and Mr rime are great, yeah, but kantonian farfetch'd is still useless as ever.
I'm hoping you will update this for the DLC, not just because it fixed some of the issues(whilst introducing new a plethora of new ones, unfortunately), but also because you were a bit too generous.
Believe me, I wanted to love these games, but you talk about they are still fun, despite all the problems, and issues not directly in the game such as with gamefreak's marketing recent tactics, which have been immoral at best and the sort of thing which would provoke lawsuits for a less fanatical fanbase than pokemon's at worst(Most notably, blatant false advertising. They at one point explictly said they cut the dex because they remade the models(which were future proofed anyways, so this wouldn't have been an issue if they hadn't claimed they remade them), then proceeded to release the game with a handful of models which were even remotely changed, and none which were changed enough to be visible. You think they are still fun, but all the problems(particularly the broken levelling system, which make the game far too easy) have just rendered them nearly unplayable. It just feels like for ever step forward, there's either two steps back, or just one bigger step back.
Really, my thoughts on this game can be summed up by a quote from Shigeru Miyamoto, a quote which whoever made the decisions which caused all these problems should have heeded: "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is bad forever." Sorry for the wall of text.
@@zacharylandrum4789 well with the Ultra game's, they had time
Pokemon is in a tough spot with deadlines. They can't exactly delay the game when a date is already set and announced, because Pokemon is more than just a game. Theres the anime episodes already set to release, the merchandise stores will be getting, the TGC. Should they get more time? Yes, of course. But if they were to, all of the above would need to be pushed back
They could've delayed. How scummy can people get, putting greed above the integrity of creating art?
@@MxPokirby again, its not that simple. With Animal crossing for example, its just 1 game. Deadlines are set for a reason. Cuz other things rely on it. It just so happens this game needed more time than they originally scoped. A delay for SwSh woulda been bad business, because of all the external media
Mariokemon Still no excuse as to why they can't patch in the full roster later though. They're just choosing not to.
TGC
Good video, however it did feel a bit biased when we got to the bad. The reason why people are upset with Gen 8’s graphics are that we now finally got a mainline Pokémon game on a home console as powerful as the switch, and it still looks and plays like 3ds game. This honestly baffles me because the Coliseum games have been looking like actual console games for almost 2 decades. As for the National Dex, most of us who aren’t just crying that their favorite mon didn’t make it in are upset that GameFreak said that they had reasons to cut it that were obviously false. They said they were re modeling all the Pokémon: the models are reused. They said they’re gonna be more expressive with animations: most of the animations used for battling are extremely dated and of low quality. It just boggles my mind that this even had to happen honestly.....
While I acknowledge these games were far more fun than I anticipated given the bad prep, I'd still say Gen 8 is in the bottom 3, along with Gen 1 and 6.
After I beat them, I went to play my HeartGold copy for the heck of it, and it just reminded me how good Pokemon used to be. Or how much better it was. In truth, I doubt any Pokémon game that will be released in the future will touch HGSS or BW2
Mighty Mitochondria it’s funny you mention that but when I first played Soul Silver (which was after both Emerald and Platinum for me) I hated it. I felt like my ass was getting kicked. But as time grew on, I learned and adapted. I really love this game now it encourages me to train more than 6 Pokémon, and it encourages me to use Pokémon I would never use because they weren’t as good an alternative. Emerald you can get away with a team of six comfortably, Platinum I HAD to stick with a team of six specialized Pokémon. Pokémon B&W taught me how to plan my team in advance, X allowed me to pick literally anything and have fun, and Moon again had me at a specialized team although I did have to backtrack to catch a Ribombee.
@@giraffedragon6110 I feel like HGSS are the perfect difficulty. You can use a team of your favorites, and get a reasonable challenge without feeling like you needed to use better pokemon. It's definitely my favorite Nuzlocke game by far, due to the following feature making you get more attached, and the Johto Gym leaders being solid challenges, especially Morty and Clair.
I think the hardest games were probably FRLG, BW/2, and USUM. They sorta kicked my ass out of nowhere.
Mighty Mitochondria I still rarely have a good plan for Clair outside a skarmory spikes roar toxic stall because of that bloody kingdra. I swear every time I see a kingdra in any game that isn’t kalos ORAS or Moon I think “well fuck, how am I gonna get out of THIS?”. Cause in Emerald the only dragon type you get without trade till postgame is flygon and Rayquaza. Yeah Walreign’s fantastic but Juan’s has double team and Drake is scary. Then Clair the only dragon type you could POSSIBLY obtain by that point is a dratini in the gamecorner with voltorb flip (you can’t even buy tokens en mass) and if you want a real good ice type you’ll go for mamoswine by finding a hidden heart scale or trading a razor claw so Sneasal can evolve. There’s a chance someone doesn’t know about lapras and either try to tank with the red Gyrados with ice fang or use Feraligator ice fang. I’ve just never HAD a good answer for Clair.
Mighty Mitochondira didn't it have like a big difficulty spike? I keep on hearing about that...or maybe it's only from the original gen 2 games
@@Jdudec367 Sorta. It's hard to grind after Morty, and Pryce is a total pushover compared to Clair. This was definitely more noticeable in the original 3 games from Gen 2. It isn't as bad in HGSS.
This is why I love Mr Minion. Gives everyone a fair chance.
From a Sw-Sh hater: My standards are high, but I cannot argue with you about the rating. They need more time. However there are still some unforgivable things about Pokemon, preferably the "High Quality Animations" we were promised.
You do realize it could have meant something OTHER than moves, right? If not, grab a dictionary and look up the TM for common sense. Might fit well with your team.
@@Jacob-rf7ci What is that other thing that they improve if they aren't talking about Pokemon moves? Also, insults do not help your point.
@@jowysw They're higher deffinitions, similarly to let's go, slot less pixels are noticable. Also, assuming that the TM comment was an insult and not a passing suggestion makes your argument invalid for false accusations.
I think Sword and Shield are honestly my least favorite games in the series but even then I at least still enjoyed them. Seriously, give these games more development time. That's the one thing holding his series back in my eyes.
No matter what opinion you have on the game
OST Still bops
In gen 9 they’re going to make the champion the villain, can’t wait for Pokémon rose and violet taking place in Canada. At least I hope so
You are waiting so much, Pokémon doesnt re-use characters and if they do that, it Will be only really simple and it won't have anything important for the story
Well... you got the Violet part right.
My only real gripes personally have been Y Comm especially with college wifi and linking to friends, raid battle NPCs (Screw Magikarp, Wobbufett, and Solrock), and Gigantamaxing. Specifically that it was made to where you need to hunt down that specific version of a mon in a raid battle over raising it's evolution line in order to get it. And if that doesn't work, it could very well have a trigger to let the line be capable of GMax over DMax. For example, what if in its final stage of evolution, you make curry with Gigantamix and if you get a 4 or higher with that Mon in the lead, it makes a text box appear saying you can GMax it now. Would make having to farm dens less annoying given they are locked to extremely rare spawns in rare dens
Togepi and Clefairy too
One thing I don’t like is the difficulty and how railroaded the game is.
Can I take a moment to talk about team yell?
• Cool as fuck designs for the grunts
• Marnie is easily the best rival in the game, the perfect combination of respect for the player with charming snark
• The team looks edgy and intimidating and yet the members are just wholesome and caring and I fucking love that
• Still on the wholesome point, the historical accuracy of team yell being wholesome punks warms my heart as a Brit that loved learning about punk culture and how they literally were just musicians that wanted their message heared
• Piers is my new favourite gym leader eclipsing Norman's ORAS appearance in character design and battle. Plus his theme is god tier along with Marnie's.
Lee Stephen, I agree 100% that team yell are just wonderful!
I really hate it when people downplay team yell as "the worst evil team in Pokemon." Because they clearly were not meant to be one!
Sure, it's considered a series staple to have an "evil" team in every Pokemon game. But these people need to get with the times!
Not Teams at all
(Sorry)
Dynamax was a fun idea, but ultimately felt like "mega evolution but less" because they were somehow simultaneously worse and more powerful than megas. Dynamax and Gigantimax are only available for 3 turns, but otherwise offer no real downside. However a mega salamance is way scarier and harder to beat in the right hands. Z moves felt fine as well, and they made it a choice of "Use a z move or mega stone or something else." Allowing for mind games in the right situations. Dynamax feels like it wanted to be climactic but its surprisingly easy to endure in single player, and in competitive play they can and can't sweep a team somehow, depending on the format and team. They feel like a threat and a joke, making it just a big joke over all. The biggest issue is the hand holding, or at least how the game treats you like you can't do anything. The scene where leon defeats a dynamax purrzerker off screen is basically how the game treats everything, "Don't worry just continue." But I WANT to be involved!I WANT to help! I WANT TO HAVE FUN! The game has events happen off screen, dangerous events that you are told happened and then told to just ignore it. Compare the infamous scene where leon beats a dynamax purrzerker off screen and tells you to continue versus the lake valor explosion in gen 4. You get there a moment too late, but you still fight and defeat Saturn. Then you rush up to snow point, once again just being too late. You only continue with the last gym after team galactic is beaten. You aren't told to continue with your journey, cynthia doesn't say she can handle it. Rowan doesn't tell you to not go, he tells you to be careful. He knows and expects you to go and trusts you to handle yourself. You are treated as the competent trainer that you are. If dppt were more like swish then Rowan would tell you to not go to the lake, you would go with Barry to smowpoint and he would rush ahead, Cynthia would deal with most of the events at veilstone and she would free the lake guardians with you, after you had beaten Saturn... Its way less climactic and you are treated like a kid. Yeah its somewhat more realistic in the sense that a newbie wouldn't be as good but realism is not what they should be aiming for. I liked being an exceptionally good trainer. I liked others trusting me to handle myself and proving them right with their trust. I liked doing thing in the plot.
I feel like the competitive tweaks didn't deserve a +5, it's what you'd expect from every new mainline game.
Personally, I feel I liked the main story fine enough, albeit very by-the-numbers, music is amazing, the new mons are top-quality, even more so than Gen 7 in my eyes. But man, lack of content for offline players, the horrible gimmick that is Dynamax that only works in story and is broken in an actual fair competitive match... Oh and did I mention those competitive matches have a 20-minute timer now if you do singles? Oy oy oy....
Not to mention the capped damage and horrible AI in raid battles, the terrible weather gimmicks constant in the wild area that clog up the speed in both performance and in-battle. The concept of the gym challenge being a full-on sport event is amazing, but didn't amount to a whole lot in the end other than rematching a couple gym leaders in the tournament... And this is all not having even mentioned the dex cut, which I honestly feel the same as Logan on. Sucks, but I'm not gonna go apeshit about it.
These games are rough. I'd argue not worth the pricetag. I'd recommend to wait for a drop in price but I doubt they're willing to do that anytime soon. 40 euros would be fair enough, but not 60.
The balance is horrendous. People bitch about megas but dynamax as a whole got itself banished to anything goes. Where only mega rayquaza resided for the longest time. That should have been five negative points.
Here's the thing with pokemon swsh. They're fun and I had a lot of fun but every pokemon game is fun, i have not played one that wasn't. So for me, atleast, having it be fun is low.
Some of my problems:
1. I dislike Hop. Yes he has good character growth but man is he annoying. And it doesn't help that he's stupid easy.
2. Max Raid Battle NPC are annoying as hell. If you play a 4-5 star max raid battle with npcs, you aren't going to win because one will use cosmic power, another helping hand, and the other will die 4 times because they brought a fire type to a ground water type raid battle.
3. The game is too easy. If you have a pokemon that's supereffective, then dynamax it you guaranteed a win. Ik it's been like that for almost every pokemon game but it feels more apparent here.
4. Post Game isn't good. It feels like a boring side quest rather than something big. Plus why are the box legendaries in post game and not main game, that's dumb. Eternatus should've been post game.
@PikaCinema man you are always defending GameFreak no matter what...
@PikaCinema Yeah, but like Emerald kinda has that already, where you meet Rayquaza storywise, then you can catch it if you reach Sky Pillar -- also, something like Diamond and Pearl with extra areas and characters like Stark Mountain and the Marley missions could've been nice.
Jowe man you cant accept that people can have opinions without people saying its wrong
@PikaCinema fair enough but I feel they could've swapped the legendaries around
@@1lluusio if he wsnts to defend gamefreak commenting in every comment that is slightly critical of Swsh then he cant accept other people opinions either.
This is something that I did when the final tally was put up. I decided to do some math to get a general percentage for Logan's thoughts on this game, and a 37:21 ratio come to a 63% for positive, and 37% for negative. Now on the surface 37 to 21 sounds like a lot, but it actually isn't. If I remember correctly, USUM had a even closer ratio of 22:21. Which in percentage is a 51% positive and a 49% negative. The Let's Go games were an even 50% on both sides. If we are going by how reviews work, that means that Logan considers this game to be barely passable and the other two(USUM and Let's Go) failures.
If you are saying that this video is full of bias, then look back at what I calculated. These numbers that I calculated are showing that Logan is actually being tougher than most critics are. Most critics are giving this game 8's and 9's and the lowest score by critics is higher than what Logan is giving with it being a 7. So the question is, is Logan being bias? Well, if he was, the gap in points would be much bigger, like the ratio would probably be more like a 54:8.
I bet someone is going to try and say that what I am saying is wrong and that I need to "wake up" and see the truth. Well, math like that cannot lie, it just shows the answers to the problems. I am not siding with Logan, I am just showing the calculation that I got. So, if you have responses, step right up. Hit me with your best shot!
Ok, I'll go up to bat. The blessed or messed series is not about failures or success. Rather it's about looking at the good AND bad in everything. If you get caught up in one side, you definitely forget the other and develop an unhealthy mindset. Also, he looked at USUM's additions rather than the whole game. All of this he said in his videos. Happiness dies when we forget the positives, improvement dies if we forget the negatives. It's an important balance.
@@StormC9A Exactly, you summed up what I was saying in a smaller format.
@@Ed-sd5ft That is not the point I am trying to make. The point here is not to say that Logan has no opinion, it is that he is not being terribly bias. Being bias is different from having an opinion.
@@Ed-sd5ft Well, there is always going to be bias in anything that is subjective. I'm not saying he has no bias, just not terrible bias. If it was terrible bias, there would be very little to no points in messed.
WhiteShadow aon oh okay
Can we just mention how Galar's nation vault, let me say that again, NATIONAL VAULT. As in, the place that should contain the most valuable things in all of Galar, has only 4 fuckin tapestries in it.
Say whatever you want about the game but you gotta admit...the game has the best pokemon weve seen in nearly a decade
Gigantimax balanced?
Not everyday you hear someone say that.
20:38 - 21:31
Given that Peirs doesn't use Dynamax, this makes sense.
Probably done cause the only Dark-type pokemon capable of Gigantamax is Grimmsnarl, which is already Marnie's ace
yeah... more time and this game would've been great, at least to me.
I don't think this game looks very good in my opinion, so I'm not buying it, but if the next game is improved on, I might get that.
If you didn’t like these games, why did you give them a 37/21?
Also, you hated Megas in X/Y, so why are you mad that they’re gone now?
I burst only laughing when he called this game balanced after complaining about the balance in X and Y. Like bruh. This is the worst balanced Pokémon game of all time. Smogon were probably pulling their hairs out trying to hold the competitive scene together for this shitshow.
Most gigantamax Pokémon were just thrown into anything goes. Megas were Uber at worst other than Rayquaza.
This game...It was a rollercoaster for me. Keep in mind, this comes from the heart of someone who loves the games as a concept, and never got to experience the supposed best games of the series. I apologize for the text wall, so I'll summarize: I loved it in concept, I hated what came out during the leadup, I can't support this game myself but I see why others would. I just want the game I know can exist on this hardware now.
When I first heard of it, I was in love instantly, since it was going to be the most ambitious game yet, taking that Switch hardware and pushing its limits, and the pokemon team themselves pushing their own limits with a new generation, a new region, new ideas...and right off the bat, I knew I would love the Fire Starter for once (as someone who was always on the Grass team)
Then the Dexit news came out, and I was distraught at the concept of losing some of the ones who I loved so much. Of course, the leaks confirmed that more than half of my favorites were shorn away, but at the time I didn't know that, and I was shaken at the idea. Not helping was the slow trickle of other losses, like the straight removal of Mega Evolution. Every day was more bad news, and my fears only grew.
The Games leaked, and all my worst fears were getting validated, a full scan of the 400 mon roster, 320 mons were returning in some form, 40% of all, and indeed, only about 40% of my own picks made it in. It wrenched my gut enough to solidify my choice not to get the game; I wouldn't support this direction before, but the loss felt too personal to reconsider. Tack onto that the various technological and graphical issues that were evident in the game (time stopping ladders still gets me,) and the more on-rails story progression of "just do the league" for most of the game, I was content to sit back and watch this game go up in flames on release...
...Then they released officially, and, surprisingly, there was still something good about it. Designs were still wonderful, the region as a concept felt very alive, ignoring the obvious visual faults, and most of the newcomers had very clear identities of their own, which I do greatly respect. I still can't see myself supporting or reccomending this game to anyone but diehard fans, especially in the state of its release and with the executive decision to straight can the idea of "Gotta Catch Em All," but i'm not so blind as to ignore why people can and do still like it themselves. I just can't do so in good faith.
Taking a line from an old review I saw a long time ago for Skyrim of all things; "This is not a bad game...yet. It's hard to ruin a franchise with just one entry, but if things keep going this way, it can only go downhill." Enjoy Sword and Shield if you can, I will just stand aside and wait for the product it should have been. Whether that's a Second release edition or whatever the next entry/remake in the series is, I only hope it takes the lessons from this game, and runs with it somewhere it deserves to be.
Also have you heard of the unbeatable champion?
oh you are talking about The UnBeAtaBlE Champion? The one with a CHARIZARD that is also pants with directions?
Never heard of him.
I'm really surprised you didn't say anything about the Charizard pandering, I guess the meme is dead.
Because the game had to be blessed. Because of course it had to.
@@jowysw ...are you assuming he's biased?
@@RampagingFlippy030 yes. Because he is.
@@RampagingFlippy030 he bring it up as a negative to only say that he doesn't care about it. And he didn't bring up other negative points. But whatever. Pokemon is good and anyone that says otherwise is a biased hater.
@@jowysw He only doesn't care because everyone brings it up to rag on Pokemon....y'know like politics. And besides, he did complain about the Y-comm and the online anyway. Did you watch the video or did skip to the end so you can complain about him not calling SWSh a mess? Don't put words in my mouth, pricklord.
I'm just worried. If this game has so many issues as is and didn't live up to its potential, what does that mean for future games? I wonder if the problems not fixed yet, or even introduced this gen, will ever be addressed, or if the removed moves/Pokémon will ever return. It's really uncertain - I sure hope they're given the time they need to fully develop these games.
Since people apperantly can't critize those issues without being haters and Pokemon always sells those problems have a chance to reappear in multiple games in the future.
This is intended to be their new direction. The future is looking pretty bleak.
Fun fact, the devs werent going to even have a Wild Area in the original game. Corperate told them that they had to due to the reception of Let's Go, so they had to delete a lot of work just to make it. And yes, this is 100% believeable. Remember what happened to KH3? An engine switch made them lose a YEAR of progress, and had to start from scratch. Game deveopment is broken, man.
Source for this?
19:29, remember when Logan used to disapprove of mega evolutions?
Times have surely changed.
@@zacharylandrum4789 Or maybe his opinions have changed over the years since his X/Y review? It's not hypocrisy if he's legitimately changed his mind.
@@zacharylandrum4789 I mean, does he really need to explain that his opinions have changed?
Even if that were the case, I recall from his Blessed or Messed video on Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee mentioned him being disappointed that Mega Evolutions don't get introduced until the 8th gym. If his opinion on Mega Evolutions didn't change from 6 years ago, why would that be a point against the games for him?
About Move deletion: It's going to be for importing pokemon into Sword/Shield. Also the worst offender imo is that Vespiquen lost Heal Order. She still gets Attack and Guard Order but can't use Heal Order because it got deleted. WHY?
Or how they kept Swoobat and Woobat, but got rid of their basically Signature move, Heart Stamp.
Hopefully, whenever gen 9 gets announced, it won't be quite as much of a controversial topic.
If there is one thing I could wish for, it would be that the devs are given more time than just 1 year. Even though it can and has been done right, it's a challenging amount of time to work with.
@PikaCinema it doesn't seem like that at all to be honest
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Really, they were working on this at the same time as Ultra Sun and Moon and Let’s Go Pikachu and Eevee?
@@SilvAegisTV Because Pokemon is CoD but with even lower standards so it has to come out every year.
@PikaCinema A "much bigger one"
@PikaCinema They are both just doing the bare minimum while trying to release yearly.
I was early for this one, just like sword and shield
Accualy Sword and shield is earlier, but you have more reasonable point unlike Sword and shield rushing for no reason
Reno Kyrie my bad, I meant I still haven’t bought the game yet, not that the game came out late because that definitely isn’t the case lol
Gave me a good idea for a better comment though, so thanks for the edit
I feel like the complete absence of plot deserved a 5 on the negative side. The writing hasn't been this weak since Gen 1. Most of the interesting story telling in the game came from design choices, like Hop's wild team changes in the middle of the game. Everything the characters said was either generic or just... nonsense.
Stone evolutions have been uncancellable for a few gens now
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**Insert MGS sound effect here**
... Consider me excited.
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Ah, I see you're team Cinderace, mien Miniòn. I tip my non-existant hat to you, we have similar taste in starters...
I'm Team Scorbunny too, but I pity picked Sobble since no one liked Inteleon _(which is pretty unfair, Secret Agent Lizard's awesome in his own right.)_ I did eventually Masuda breed me a Shiny rabbit to make up for the one that went to Hop.
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To be fair, Sobble is *REALLY* cute...
@@midnight_matter8707 I'm nothing but anxiety and Sobble appears to be essentially me as a cute water lizard Pokemon. Of course I'm going to pick Sobble! Now if there was only a way for me to get Zacian and the rest of the Galar Starter Trio after I complete the main story and post game...
@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 To me, Intelleon is Galar's equivalent to Greninja, and I'm not sure why. Through an equivalent to GTS (if Sword and Shield even has one for all I know), were you able to get a good trade for Scorbunny or no? When I complete the main story and post-game, I'm planning to get the rest of the starters and the opposite mascot legendary like I did in Sun and Moon and Ultra Sun and Moon. I really hope I can do that in someway in Sword and Shield...
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The other two Starters are no problem at all. Just do surprise trades on a regular basis and you're bound to have one of each in a couple different languages.
Getting the other dog will be a bit trickier though. If it were me, I'd only Trade for the data and give it back. I don't care how psychotically good Zacian is compared to her more Defensive-based younger brother. I'm not taking another player's dog for keeps unless they're wiping their save to start over anyway and don't mind or care.
Also, there is no GTS- I know, I was crestfallen about that too. Something recommended to me but I've been putting off since I'm lazy; you should look into making a Discord account if you haven't already. might come in handy for specific Trades.
The Wild Area and Dynamax Raid Battles are a blessed for me. Now I can capture Pokémon that can only evolve through trading.. since I have no friends. ;u;
But for real though, I can definitely go along with Logan’s opinion. It’s a great game, but it definitely needs improvement. Here’s to the next generation that will *hopefully* fix these problems.
People complained about the graphics because GF said they cut half of the Pokémon for better graphics. Problem is that didn't happen.
@PikaCinema the models and animations are the same. And they are not using well the power of the Switch at all despite the cut.
Who knows Logan, with the upcoming Isle of Armour and Crown Tundra DLC's on the horizon maybe you'll see your Shiny Scizor and first ever starter again
One of the think I’m surprised you never talked about was the region layout, I feel like it was really lack luster, specifically the routes. Routes felt boring compared to the amazing wild area and had almost nothing interesting in them. Another thing, no post game areas, even the battle tower some how is included in the main story.
If he had rated these games using the criteria of his Greatest Pokemon Generations videos then Sw/Sh would have been near the bottom.
@@TheMadMadman but this game had to be blessed because Pokemon and Pokemon good
To be fair, routes are rarely exciting to begin with
@@captainmega6310 That's no reason they couldn't improve.
@@TheMadMadman I'm just saying, this is a very "you" problem
I believe the GTS should be a red +3
Yes those turds existed, but I always ignored them and laughed. But it sucks that you now need to buy both games OR have a friend who has the other version to get version exclusives.
Also... 20 minutes for an online battle? Come on. That's like bieng forced to eat a tower of pancakes while you're on a hurry to get somewhere, it's not gonna feel good.
Happy to see someone else who likes Rose as a character, I really do think hes interesting
I only used 1 team of 6 and dont really remember being overleveled, Piers was a close match and Leon beat me 3 times
I hate Ycomm. I try to join Giga raids to catch em... and I dont get the update until said raids are ready filled or gone with no prior way of knowing
I honestly didn't see his betrayal coming. This is the dude who wore a cyan Pokéball patterned pair of shorts and has a potbelly. And I can relate to his sudden rushed nature of awakening Eternatus. He was overtly worrying about the future, fearing that the power shortage would come at anytime. Sure, it was said to happen in a thousand years or so, but fate has a tendency to fuck people over. Sure, he wasn't justified by his actions, but he had a character that I could personally relate to, so he'll have a special place in my heart.
@@wobblewokgaming655 plus I liked how he wasnt actually evil like the previous villains
Yes his actions were reckless and he hurt people, but he seemed like the "end justifies the means" sorta person
Yeah I did a second playthrough where I only did rare max raid battles and had to beat 1 gym per day. I used a really weird team with vespiquen and ninetales. I beat Raihan's gym with levels in the high 40's and I went back and finished my first profile. I saw Leon lead with a level 64 Aegislash. I was 17 levels behind. Game is tough if you want it to be. Also, Rose slots in as my favorite villain in the series above Ghetsis, as although N is my favorite and is technically a villain I guess, I see him more as a rival.
Honestly my biggest, relatively minor nitpick is the model sizes. I absolutely cannot stand a console title not giving accurate sizes to the Pokémon models, like
I can understand why the models for Pokémon were shrunk in the 3DS games, the screen was small and wouldn’t have been able to fit or even barely _run_ most of these models, but this is the _Switch_ we’re talking about! Gimme my accurately sized Tyranitar!
Honestly the biggest offender is Eternatus. You see it in a cutscene as this gigantic, intimidating, rotten dragon corpse of a Pokémon thats as long as a goddamned school bus, and five seconds later you’re fighting six foot lizard bones like come _on_
In my opinion Pokemon Sword and Shield can be summed up in a few sentences; It's a rushed game, but, it's a good rushed game. It's rough around the edges, yes, but it still is a shining jewl despite it's obvious flaws... Back durning 5 gen I was thinking about how some Pokemon were only available after the post game, I then thought ' with Pokemon being so popular, there may come a time where the Pokemon devs won't be able to put every Pokemon in the same game... that's gonna happen eventually'...I was unfortunately right... I still think Sword and Shield are amazing games... But like the weapons the games were named after, thay still needed more time in the forge, despite their already good quality...
Contraversial opinion: Marnie, out of all the rivals in Sword and Shield, in my opinion... Is the least develope. She still cool, but I feel like she needed more time to shine.
I really feel like he did great too. After playing through Shield myself (expect for battle tower, I want to shake up my team for that) I think that we had some of the best rivals in a long time. Having them all come full circle and seeing how the world impacted them and your actions did and the actions with each other. It was really nice, to be fully honest. I would've loved to see more of Marnie and have a bit more growth on the Bede level, but it doesn't bug me much at all as she was a great rival and had the most busted support cheering in the game. As for the national dex...meh? I know the feeling of losing your friends along the games and being scared of seeing them vanish for good, but I don't discount Gamefreak to just let you never bring them back. Maybe this game isn't where they'll show up, but they'll come back in another, and they seem to want to be sure to bring them with, no matter how far back you got them. I really hope they do more with the series in the future, but now I just want them to be able to work on the game for longer than they were allowed on this one.
@@startouchedFeline lucky for me, my top six Pokemon (Pokemon I would want on my team) all got in Sword and Shield, but I know some people's favorites didn't get in... This time.
Marnie is a good rival...just not on the level of Hop or Bed, who had full on in-depth character arch. I did like all the stuff they did with Marnie, but I feel like there was some miss potential. For crying out loud Piers had more time for characterization, Marnie just needed more time to shine. Out of all the rivals, I guess you could say, Marnie is the most Pokemon rival out of the rivals in Sword and Shield.
Ooof, the comments I made have not aged well-especially those concerning Jowe. I’m sorry if I painted myself as a mindless consumer...because that’s not what I wanted to be known as. I openly admit...Sword and Shield are far from perfect. Yes, the draw distance is not ideal. Yes, some of the designs are AWFUL in the environments. But it’s those flaws and accepting them that make me enjoy the upsides more. Hopefully this clears any bad blood between us...
I still haven't bought it
But i absolutely hate how they decide that cut dexes is how they want to move forward
Post release updates to add every pokemon is very much a possibility and the only thing stopping them from doing it is not caring.
Now whenever there's a pokemon i like I'll think to myself why bother if there's the possibility that they'll just get cut out only a few years later
You make a pretty good point. Who's to say they won't add something specifically for one game, but the only Pokemon you actually wanted to use for that feature got cut? That would suck.
Also, thanks for the Ed, Edd, and Eddy nostalgia with your pic👍
@@darkmoon2503 it happened even now cuz the feature to change a pokémon's nature, I'd really like to use on my shiny chansey so that i could use it in battle
But i can't cuz chansey isn't in the game.
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Something tells me nature changing is one of those rare cool features they actually decide to keep for future releases. I'd imagine your Chansey will get her *chance* someday.
...But if I'm wrong and they remove it for some bullcrap reason, like so many other features, my disappointment with Gamefreak will reach depths I didn't know existed.
@@darkmoon2503 yeah
Another thing that disappoints me is that i don't know when chansey will be available again
It could be soon or could be 3 generations from now
There's no real way of knowing
It's like a friend that you can't see and do anything with and the only thing your friend or parents say is that you MIGHT see them soon in the future
I honestly didn't enjoy Sword and Shield. Yes, the cutscenes are gorgeous, yes, the characters are all interesting, but it didn't feel like it was MY story i was telling. Everything plot relevant was happening without the player and I felt like a side character for someone else's story the who went and stole the spotlight at the very end. The legendaries and Big Bad Evil Team weren't even MENTIONED until AFTER you beat the eighth Gym. Even the player's whole motivation for becoming a trainer in the first place was just: Your childhood friend wants to be Ash, you be Gary. F***ing. What.
Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
Isn't Dynamax just Mega Evolutions with extra steps also the win button like come on am I the only one that saw dynamex as Beyond busted
Yes, but it comes with the drawback of not being permanent and protect acts similarly do Z-moves where you only do a tiny bit of damage. Also, it doesn't bypass focus sash, so pokemon reliant on that kinda got a buff in a sense. Another thing I like is that it can absolutely destroy the annoying ass stall teams if used properly. But seriously, PLEASE NERF THE CHOICE ITEM INTERACTION. That is my only real problem with this mechanic.
Hey, I bet it's a fun game. But I can't dictate how fun it is when I have to pay $60 in order to find that fun. I'll wait for the next games, because I don't really want to support something I feel is just a 3DS game. Power to you all who play it, though. Have fun. 👍
Am I the only person who hates it when the National Dex is brought up? The excuse has been ABUSED to kingdom come at this point. It's honestly why I prefer Yo-kai Watch to Pokémon. Didn't stop me from getting both Sword and Shield, tho...
People bring it up because game freaks reason to cute the pokemon is because for better animation. Which is a lie most animation are form sun and moon or pokemon just do barely any animations.
I'm just here playing through Gen 5 again
I still feel games these days should prioritize fun more than anything else cause I feel that's the most important aspect of a game especially these days cause I'll be honest outside of that aspect anything else about a game us just icing on top of a cake.
@PikaCinema If you think Sword and Shield are "what Pokemon is about", you deserve to be smacked.
@PikaCinema games are apperantly just having no challenge or much content and repeat the same formula forever while also being rushed ;)
@@MxPokirby You do realize at the end of the day a conversation about fun factor is heavily subjective right? Not everyone is the same on opinions that's pretty much a fact. Especially when considering everyone views Pokemon differently.
@@MxPokirby I mean, that's what I think every Nintendo game is about, personally. Just having fun. And hell, I've had a lot of fun WATCHING people play the game. But that's me. Sorry you couldn't enjoy it as much as I did.
My biggest issue with the new Pokemon games is that they are just stagnant and have frankly been that way since Gen 6. It's not that they're bad, it's Pokemon for Christ's sake making a "bad" mainline Pokemon game is next to impossible, it's just that its competition is getting much better and more appealing. Why should I fork over $60 and an additional $30 if I wanted to play the DLC just to experience practically the same thing that I have been for the past decade when I could instead buy something like FE: 3 Houses, FF7R, Monster Hunter Rise, Monster Hunter Stories 2, DQ11, Xenoblade Chronicles DE, Bug Fables, ect. And that's what I fear most with this series. Pokemon is so big nowadays that they don't need to shoot for the moon to realistically make a big profit and TPC seems content with just making a "good" game when in the past they would've gone for fantastic. Maybe they'll prove me wrong this year for their 25th anniversary or for Gen 9 but right now I'm going to be looking at their next mainline projects with much scrutiny.
You can count on Mr Minion to be able to gush about a game while also Not pulling any punches.
Thanks you for a fair review I swear all the rest of them have been so biased
I'm gonna say it: You were too generous with the game. It has glaring issues like Brokemax, lack of story, removing content for nothing and lack of postgame. I TRIED to look at it with good eyes but is just a bad game by switch standars.
Forget the switch. It's bad by 3DS standards.
The Scottish trainer makes it a definite bless for me .
she doesnt speak
@@smeadswanson She's a silent-protagonist; the player chooses the voice. :)
They patched out the resetting of the choice lock so that’s now a problem anymore
I feel the only reason he didn’t mention how rediculously difficult or unreasonable some of the evolutionary conditions are is because he likes the more silly ones.
My team in this Gen honestly is my favorite. I’ve never actually tried to strategize before with my teams, really just tanking everything with my Starter and one other Pokemon. But I dunno why, this one inspired my to actually treat my team like...well, a team. I love this one.
GD Omar Yeah? And? You can be competitive and still like the game too. Plenty of my friends are competitive and love it. And there’s not really a problem with playing a Pokemon game casually.
GD Omar Yeah the game normally is too easy. But, competitive players usually you know- play against other people? The game’s difficulty itself isn’t gonna change the skills of players. Plus, again, you can’t literally just say “not this game”. I know tons of people who love competitive gameplay and love this game. Competitive or casual gameplays don’t really matter in this case. It just depends on if you actually have fun the way you play. If you didn’t, that’s fine! Just don’t try to talk for a group of people like you represent an entire half of the community.
GD Omar See that’s entirely fair. I’m just saying, you’re still allowed to like this game even competitively. But, yeah I get the complaints. Dynamaxing definitely isn’t all too balanced, and the timer not being changeable is dumb.
"Dynamax" and "balanced" should never be used in the same sentence.
LOL!
Yep
Dynamax is balanced for doubles but definitely not for singles lmao
@@senabea Very true. It goes to show that Gamefreak is constantly turning a blind eye to the single battle format despite the fact that 90% the main story is composed of single battles.
They really should've put more thought into the balancing for both singles and doubles, rather than just one format imo.
@@its_just_an_opinion_bro But then why would they add Court Change? I feel like they gave their focus to VGC play but gave just a little bit to singles but it clearly wasn't enough
@@DaVideoGameBeastr They also added Heavy Duty Boots, yet proceed to make 6 vs 6 single battles take 20 minutes at most.
To put that into perspective, the average 6 vs 6 battle would take between 25-30 minutes (assuming each player isn't picking their moves quickly). 1 step forward, 2 steps back.