Charles Fields ... I had to watch this again because I didn't understand what the hack was either. I'm thinking about putting up a hack video tonight on how I clean my teeth. 😄 that said, I like that people take the time to do this stuff, because it's great to sit down at the bench and play something while you're doing it... Sort of like a reassurance that your not about to break the new thing you got. Just wish they were titled accurately... Especially since, if I ever load a vid after not affixing a rail for a year or two, this video clearly won't be the one I pull up due to the title.
This video is by far the best explanation of how to make M-Lok installation work in a relatively easy way. This is a lot less complicated than all the other videos that other people have posted. This helps a lot of people.
MAGPUL WANTS THIS VIDEO BANNED (POLICE CALLED)(GONE SEXUAL) ... and see what happen next. Epic! must see. You won't believe your eyes. Click now and buy!!
Fun video. Thanks for sharing the trick. I wouldn't be surprised if Magpul updated their install instructions to utilize this method. Blind install with absolutely zero guess work.
Just added an MLOK Hand Grip and attached my first accessory to it quickly an easily thanks to your tips. I saved this video for future reference, though I think I'll remember. Thank you!
TWANGnBANG I haven't watched one of your videos in a while, but laughed when I saw that so figured I would watch it. but yea most of my spam says weird trick lol
This popped back up on my Recommendations and I had to watch it again. Can’t like it twice so I’ll just leave a Thank You. I hope T&B is doing well I these C19 times. God bless brother
I use this method but first thing I do is grab a driver handle with the proper sized bit. Sure makes for a simpler process. My 'OCD' also prevents me from buying any other M-LOC rails(when I need a 5 slot) but Arisaka 5 slot with 3 fasteners. They don't sound like it but they're even made in the US.😁
I am new to mounting accessories to M-Lock, so this hack has been VERY helpful!! I don’t understand the frustration in the comment section though. The other videos I’ve watched, they did it a totally different way...I like this way better.
For those unfamiliar with how Magpul says to do this, here are the instructions they include with their accessories. Two whole pages are spent instructing you to measure rail thickness, attempt to match with t-nut spacing, remove and repeat until you get it right (PDF file): www.magpul.com/Files/Images/PDF/M-LOK/M-LOK_Tips.pdf
TWANGnBANG the way youve shown in this video is actually the way i was taught to install these and if anyone is nervous about doing it this way and doing something outside of the instructions we have shot full auto set ups 5.56 7.65 300 blackout etc using this mounting technique over and over till you could cook bacon on the barrel and weve never had one get lose on us yet! great video twang!
they probably actually do not approve, doing this will mar parts, leave scratches and what not that would not happen if you take your time and go by the manual. i just use a small crescent wrench and eyeball it, little trial and error but pretty much everything is first time go
Took me almost four minutes to realize it's meant to be comedic. You're too accurate to what firearm channels are actually like these days- you were two years ahead!
Man,just bought my 1st ar and looked at the mloc sheet and thought what the hell.they really should have people who use the product make the instructions.always found engineers can find a harder way to do the simplest thing.found your vid 15 min.after I figured it out.still enjoyed it.thank you.
No longer will I dread mounting M-Lok devices. I had two of them mounted within five minutes and even mounted one upside down, then removed it and reattached it correctly still within the five minutes. Thank you sir.
If I had to take a guess, it's because adjusting as you tighten ensures that the final tightening will be done into fresh threadlock compound, not compound that's potentially displaced or stripped off by having the threads pass over it multiple times.
I never read the instructions. Glad I didn't realize that I was doing it "wrong." Some things are self evident. Nice to see someone else figured it out. 😋
You can use a 7 mm open end wrench on the T-nut rather than the Crescent wrench or pliers. Neat trick, BTW. Recently I needed to cut one screw to the minimum length to get it to turn into place between the gas block and handguard's flats for a bipod stud mount. It cleared by a whisker. I put the screw in a vice and cut it using a Dremel & cutting wheel.
This is the only way that makes any sense to install the T-nuts and I;ve been doing it since M-lok came out. Why would "Magpul hate this"??? Nie click-bate title.
Hi I'm Magpul and I hate this trick I absolutely hate this trick I wanted to be dissolved I wanted to be hung I wanted to be shot I hate this trick I can't stand it!!!!
You can put a small piece of electrical tape at the end of the thread right where it rotates freely that way it doesn’t back itself all the way out at the same time marking the spot.
A lot of morons don't understand seo optimization and why the word "hack" was used. Being under 50, I understood why. This was helpful to me. I now don't have to fiddle my mlok stuff as much AND I realize why everyone hates the gun community so much. Thank you for the video and please ignore the stupid comments. 🤘
Thank you thank you thank you. I have a 1 piece hand guard where I can't get to the back of it. I was at this for over an hour. After this video, got it perfect 1st try in 10 secs. Thanks again.
It is in the directions. Crap videos like this are why I can't take this guy serious. "Magpul hates this hack" it's literally in their directions to do this
It is now, but the original instructions that were the only instructions at the time of this video were quite different. Any guess as to why the instructions now say to do this method that I clearly demonstrate on video? lol
I'm glad to see so many people get the joke, yet feel sorry for those who are getting so butt hurt. Regardless, great tutorial and so much easier than Magpul's instructions.
This is actually pretty smart. Bought a Black Rain Ordnance rifle and has M Lok on the handguard and putting an m lok grip on for the first time really fucking pissed me off. But now I realize that it is a good system.
That just worked like an absolute charm for my 1st own M-LOK! But I do remember trying to help a friend with his and how frustrating bit was, so thank you! Awesome. #M-LOK
I don't know why Magpul would hate this vid. I thought for sure it would be clickbait. I was pleasantly surprised to find this was a very informative, and to the point tip! Thanks!
A hack learned late is still a good hack. A few months ago I struggled not knowing this hack trying to hold the T-nut in place on M&P 15-22 fore end where you can remove it. If I add another rail some where I will remember you help.
reminds me of when my dad showed me how to install those drywall toggle bolts. Same principle. I didnt know it was a hack...he just said this is how ya do it. Hack=Tip. Tip = proper install.
Magpul uses too strong of a thread lock, in fact if you don't pre-thread then back off you run the risk of tightening down once and having to drill out the t-nut to remove. Unless you're doing a tour downrange and an accessory falling off means difference between life and death you don't need thread lock, tnuts get plenty tight on their own. Great instructional.
I was just in a gun store the other day and heard a guy asking if they could drop another trigger in his gun I was like it’s called a drop in trigger for a reason and if you don’t know how to dissemble the old one then you might not need that gun lol
If I screw the nut approx 2/3 the way down, press the accessory into the slot and tighten the nut down into place, I struggle to see how this method is more effective.
thanks sir...great video again...my comment really is how did 741 people give this a thumbs down??? even if you had this figured out before watching or whatever, how do you thumbs down this video??? chuckle-heads!
I must be getting old because what we used to call common sense, is now called a hack... Good instructional video.
Charles Fields ... I had to watch this again because I didn't understand what the hack was either. I'm thinking about putting up a hack video tonight on how I clean my teeth. 😄 that said, I like that people take the time to do this stuff, because it's great to sit down at the bench and play something while you're doing it... Sort of like a reassurance that your not about to break the new thing you got. Just wish they were titled accurately... Especially since, if I ever load a vid after not affixing a rail for a year or two, this video clearly won't be the one I pull up due to the title.
Common Sense means a different thing nowadays, its a metaphor to give up your rights for the false safety of others now.
Raymo_2_u HA, basically
Well said!
Funny how over time people talk different, isn't it? Eventually a "life hack" is gunna be an old person thing.
This video is by far the best explanation of how to make M-Lok installation work in a relatively easy way. This is a lot less complicated than all the other videos that other people have posted. This helps a lot of people.
Glad it helped!
You forgot to add the screenshot with you holding the handguard at the screen with a surprised look on your face for the full click bait feel
😬
yuck
But you watched it....
Came here looking for a comment like this, I am fully satisfied.
Lol
MAGPUL WANTS THIS VIDEO BANNED (POLICE CALLED)(GONE SEXUAL)
Nice!! :)
MAGPUL WANTS THIS VIDEO BANNED (POLICE CALLED)(GONE SEXUAL)
... and see what happen next.
Epic! must see. You won't believe your eyes.
Click now and buy!!
GONE SEXUAAAAAAAL!
(GUN PULLED)
Lmao!
dermatologists hate him
:)
It’s amazing how many tutorials didn’t show how to loosen and then tighten to lock it… 👍
This video is a public service. Great and simple tutorial.
Residents in Lawrence Kansas didn’t know this simple trick could save them millions
Should have came to k.c.ks.........lol.
More like Ottawa
Man gathers custom rifle accessories, check out Jennifer Aniston's shocking reaction!
That click bait title, nice. "Centipedes, in MY AR-15?"
Match grade Wolf Ammo? Has Science gone TOO FAR? REAL or FAKE
keymod isnt MLOK
Shanna, neither of us said it was so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
has science gone too far?
Fun video. Thanks for sharing the trick. I wouldn't be surprised if Magpul updated their install instructions to utilize this method. Blind install with absolutely zero guess work.
A soccer mom discovers this one weird trick!
:)
1 in 5 dentists don't recommend this
:)
Doctor's hate him
Zach Conant... But parents love him!
Just added an MLOK Hand Grip and attached my first accessory to it quickly an easily thanks to your tips. I saved this video for future reference, though I think I'll remember. Thank you!
Sheeeesh ....4yrs later, your still saving lives.... Damn. This thing was starting to piss me off lol . Thanx
Click bait beat down.
I think too many of my viewers get the joke even if a few don't.
TWANGnBANG I haven't watched one of your videos in a while, but laughed when I saw that so figured I would watch it. but yea most of my spam says weird trick lol
Top 10 Gun Clickbaits of 2017
Well, I'd say by the negative thumbs down votes it's about 1/6 think it's clickbait....so far......
@@TWANGnBANG we get the joke its just so dead and unfunny its considered an insult
This popped back up on my Recommendations and I had to watch it again. Can’t like it twice so I’ll just leave a Thank You. I hope T&B is doing well I these C19 times. God bless brother
I use this method but first thing I do is grab a driver handle with the proper sized bit. Sure makes for a simpler process. My 'OCD' also prevents me from buying any other M-LOC rails(when I need a 5 slot) but Arisaka 5 slot with 3 fasteners. They don't sound like it but they're even made in the US.😁
Wow! Thanks! I was using bubblegum to hold my mlok on and thought the screws and stuff were "extra parts". I feel so tactical now!
THANK YOU 🍻
I've been going crazy setting up my SCAR'S KINETIC forend and all it took was your video to get me going 👍.
Your friend in OREGON 🤠
If you're over 40, you can't afford not to see this!
:)
Amen!
I just fiddled with my m-lok for like 30 mins then found this video and it worked instantly. thank you for posting this trick!
Glad it helped!
I am new to mounting accessories to M-Lock, so this hack has been VERY helpful!! I don’t understand the frustration in the comment section though. The other videos I’ve watched, they did it a totally different way...I like this way better.
Glad it was helpful!
For those unfamiliar with how Magpul says to do this, here are the instructions they include with their accessories. Two whole pages are spent instructing you to measure rail thickness, attempt to match with t-nut spacing, remove and repeat until you get it right (PDF file): www.magpul.com/Files/Images/PDF/M-LOK/M-LOK_Tips.pdf
TWANGnBANG yeah fuck that... your instructions are looking way easier
TWANGnBANG interesting. I literally did this out of box without reading the information haha. No idea you were supposed to measure
TWANGnBANG the way youve shown in this video is actually the way i was taught to install these and if anyone is nervous about doing it this way and doing something outside of the instructions we have shot full auto set ups 5.56 7.65 300 blackout etc using this mounting technique over and over till you could cook bacon on the barrel and weve never had one get lose on us yet! great video twang!
Good info. But the “magpul hates this” click bait is pretty lame
they probably actually do not approve, doing this will mar parts, leave scratches and what not that would not happen if you take your time and go by the manual. i just use a small crescent wrench and eyeball it, little trial and error but pretty much everything is first time go
GREAT! Just got my first M-Lok forend and accessories. This tip made it easy. Thank you!
I am about to order my first M-LOK accessories. I'm glad I found this video, as it illustrates quite well how the system works.
Took me almost four minutes to realize it's meant to be comedic. You're too accurate to what firearm channels are actually like these days- you were two years ahead!
Man,just bought my 1st ar and looked at the mloc sheet and thought what the hell.they really should have people who use the product make the instructions.always found engineers can find a harder way to do the simplest thing.found your vid 15 min.after I figured it out.still enjoyed it.thank you.
Thank you! I'd given up on adding a rail a week ago but this made it so easy.
Surpising MagPul instructions don't tell you you need a 7mm wrench and a 1/8" allen.
Holy shit! This trick takes Mlok accessory installation from F-bombs to “the bomb”! Thanks so much Twang n Bang!
You’re the first guy who successfully explained this to me. Jebus this was hard to figure out by yourself.
"You have to push it in or it doesn't work."
No longer will I dread mounting M-Lok devices. I had two of them mounted within five minutes and even mounted one upside down, then removed it and reattached it correctly still within the five minutes. Thank you sir.
great tip. I preferred k-mod to m-lok because I thought it was hard to attached m-lok accessories. This will help.
Why the hell doesn't Magpul put that in the instructions? It would be so much easier to attach things if I knew to try this.
I honestly don't know. Sometimes engineers are better at designing things than using them. :)
If I had to take a guess, it's because adjusting as you tighten ensures that the final tightening will be done into fresh threadlock compound, not compound that's potentially displaced or stripped off by having the threads pass over it multiple times.
Probably want u to strip the nut or screw so u gotta buy new ones
lawyers and liability
Sometimes? That's basically every engineer ever. Most of them have zero real-world experience with the products they design.
I never read the instructions.
Glad I didn't realize that I was doing it "wrong."
Some things are self evident.
Nice to see someone else figured it out. 😋
I’ve never been able to do one of these properly by feel. Always had to see it enough. But still managed to be successful in all my uses of them.
You can use a 7 mm open end wrench on the T-nut rather than the Crescent wrench or pliers. Neat trick, BTW. Recently I needed to cut one screw to the minimum length to get it to turn into place between the gas block and handguard's flats for a bipod stud mount. It cleared by a whisker. I put the screw in a vice and cut it using a Dremel & cutting wheel.
This is the only way that makes any sense to install the T-nuts and I;ve been doing it since M-lok came out. Why would "Magpul hate this"??? Nie click-bate title.
Outstanding video sir. I discovered this by mistake and it is how I have been installing these devices. Thank you!
Hi I'm Magpul and I hate this trick I absolutely hate this trick I wanted to be dissolved I wanted to be hung I wanted to be shot I hate this trick I can't stand it!!!!
Another excellently done presentation from the Master himself. You and Mr. Harrell leave all the others in the dust...
Thanks so much!
perfect title
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Ah the obligatory Mrgunsngear comment on a gun channel for a bit of advertising ;) Lol
all the 3 comments above mine, made me laugh my ass off.
Florida Man wow doesnt take much to make you laugh. r u a little on the spectrum?
@@heyzoos-cgr9369 LMAO. right. He pops his head in every gun channel
You can put a small piece of electrical tape at the end of the thread right where it rotates freely that way it doesn’t back itself all the way out at the same time marking the spot.
2-3 Dentist perfer Colgate.
A lot of morons don't understand seo optimization and why the word "hack" was used. Being under 50, I understood why.
This was helpful to me.
I now don't have to fiddle my mlok stuff as much AND I realize why everyone hates the gun community so much.
Thank you for the video and please ignore the stupid comments. 🤘
The definitive video on this topic. Bless you good sir 🙏
seriously? I thought this was common sense ??
BangSwitch
It is...
Thank you!!! You just saved me from high blood pressure 😂
Thank you thank you thank you. I have a 1 piece hand guard where I can't get to the back of it. I was at this for over an hour. After this video, got it perfect 1st try in 10 secs. Thanks again.
1st time gun owner as of 2 days. I'm learning.
BIG THANKYOU! I WAS GETTING P*SSED, BUT ITS SOOOO EASY! :) TY!
Sweet! I'll keep this in mind on my next mlok accessory.
I'm amazed at how difficult and over complicated forearm accessories companies have made guns.
This is how it’s always been done. I think I actually read this in instructions at some point.
It is in the directions. Crap videos like this are why I can't take this guy serious. "Magpul hates this hack" it's literally in their directions to do this
It is now, but the original instructions that were the only instructions at the time of this video were quite different. Any guess as to why the instructions now say to do this method that I clearly demonstrate on video? lol
I'm glad to see so many people get the joke, yet feel sorry for those who are getting so butt hurt. Regardless, great tutorial and so much easier than Magpul's instructions.
The little piece of paper that I got with my M Lok show this exact same thing they must be up to date
M-LOK for the win
This is actually pretty smart. Bought a Black Rain Ordnance rifle and has M Lok on the handguard and putting an m lok grip on for the first time really fucking pissed me off. But now I realize that it is a good system.
Click bait title. Used the word hack in place of tip. Said, "X hates this..." No Twang and Bang intro. What is the world is going on?
Instead of pliers I usually use the rail as the wrench to hold the t nut.
great hack!
I honestly thought this is how this was supposed to work. I've been doing this since I got my first M-Lok ar15 rail.
Great video. The cam wasn't working for me but this video with the advice to tighten all the way then back down was the trick!!! Thanks!
That just worked like an absolute charm for my 1st own M-LOK! But I do remember trying to help a friend with his and how frustrating bit was, so thank you! Awesome. #M-LOK
Excellent vid, thanks! Worked perfectly! Did not have to take the handguard off which really made my day (not literally I'm pretty happy).
I don't have anything with the MLok system, but this is a good trick to know in case I ever do.
I don't know why Magpul would hate this vid. I thought for sure it would be clickbait. I was pleasantly surprised to find this was a very informative, and to the point tip! Thanks!
Yeah, magpul hates this so much. They had a board meeting about it yesterday.
I figured this out pretty quick when I got my first rail, works great.
A hack learned late is still a good hack. A few months ago I struggled not knowing this hack trying to hold the T-nut in place on M&P 15-22 fore end where you can remove it. If I add another rail some where I will remember you help.
Great hack. I have yet to mount a M Lok accessory but that’s about to change with the Ruger Precision. Thanks.
reminds me of when my dad showed me how to install those drywall toggle bolts. Same principle. I didnt know it was a hack...he just said this is how ya do it. Hack=Tip. Tip = proper install.
Magpul uses too strong of a thread lock, in fact if you don't pre-thread then back off you run the risk of tightening down once and having to drill out the t-nut to remove. Unless you're doing a tour downrange and an accessory falling off means difference between life and death you don't need thread lock, tnuts get plenty tight on their own.
Great instructional.
Nice! I wish I would've found this vid a while ago. It definitely would have made experience a lot easier
Now that's a nice trick...makes it effortless!! Thanks.
FYI, it'll take a lot less effort if you put the Allen wrench's short end in the screw and use the long end in your fingers for leverage.
I feel pretty good about myself. I figured this out the first time I installed an M-lock accessory.
I was just in a gun store the other day and heard a guy asking if they could drop another trigger in his gun I was like it’s called a drop in trigger for a reason and if you don’t know how to dissemble the old one then you might not need that gun lol
the force is strong with this one
That is real "Common Sense" gun accessory control.
Never mind I read down in the comments , ok you got me too but it persuaded me to watch the video ! Nicely done !
Thanks for this, trying to figure it out the first time was a pain in the ass :)
Haha this is how I did it out of the gate. It just made sense this way. Nice title I got a chuckle out of it.
Had a hard time until I found this. Thank you.
I don't have to do any fitting I just put them together put them in and tighten them up and they work just fine
The best video for Mounting m-lock… thanks
wow, i've wasted so much time in the past disassembling everything and putting back. this will save that time. thanks. i feel stupid
why would magpul hate this?...and this only works if you want to take that hand guard off everytime you add something
If I screw the nut approx 2/3 the way down, press the accessory into the slot and tighten the nut down into place, I struggle to see how this method is more effective.
so demoralizing when i feel like i need to go to a gunsmith to get some simple mlok rails installed my t nut does not turn at all once tightening
hmm the t nuts must be larger now because i just got the cantilever rail and the t nuts will not fit through the foreend.
thanks sir...great video again...my comment really is how did 741 people give this a thumbs down??? even if you had this figured out before watching or whatever, how do you thumbs down this video??? chuckle-heads!
What's wrong with just starting the t nut then putting them.in the rail and just pulling against it as you tighten down?
An easier way to do it: just put the nut loosely on the screw and pull back on the accessory as you tighten it on the rail
As an employee of MAGPUL I can honestly say, No.... No we don't have any problems with people doing this to a product they bought and paid for!
worked like a charm. potato grip wooble no more
Key mod verses M-lok is like Betamax verses VHS .
Great idea. I fail to see why Magpul would hate it though.