Had a honey locust tree in our backyard in the suburbs. About 100 ft. tall and evil. Like one of these trees from a Disney movie in a haunted forest. Thorns were at least 4 inches in length. Tree got hit by lightning one summer and I did a happy dance around the base of the trunk.
Honey locust is a savanna species. You two should gather a bunch of pods from some urban parks since they plant the thornless variety (Gleditsia triacanthos ‘inermis’. Since they are a true variety their seeds give about 90-95% thornless seedlings. These seedlings would need some protection when young but then you would have sylvopastures of thornless honey locust. We have them throughout the orchard and no thorns is a winner.
You might be able to grow them to a height above sheep grazing, and just protect them with an electric wire/tape around them until they get established
I have more Black Locust (they're not related) but it's great in that it has thorns when it's young, and then the trunk stops growing them. Makes fantastic posts and lumber--as does Osage Orange (but I don't get much of that up on the higher ground-have to import it from the low lands). Buckeye-my neighbor had some cattle get sick on them, he cut every one he could find. But what it tells me is that he didn't have enough food/forage for the cattle. He's old school, spends most of his summers making hay, and winters moving it around.
It's a Legume. The seeds & pods are palatable for deer, sheep, goats and cattle. The pods are high in sugar content which provides weight gain. The tree provides ample shade but your are able to grow grass under it too.
I sawed a honey locust about 20 years ago and the tree fell the wrong way. One of the thorns went into my shoulder. A person had to get a pliers to pull it out. The thorn was 3 inches long and I still have a scar from it. It didn’t take much to go through my skin and heavy shirt I was wearing.
Been watching Greg's channel for almost a year and like hearing your perspectives on your experiences with him. I have heard the avocado is another archaic tree. Its seed is huge and not consumable by any current herbivore.
Wouldn't Black Locust(Robinia pseudoacacia) be a better choice for a pasture due to it having much smaller thorns than Honey Locust? Their growth habits/features are very similar: light dappled shade, nitrogen fixers(some debate as to whether honey locust fixes nitrogen), handle compacted/degraded soil well, firewood, pollinator forage, etc.
The honey locust provides A LOT of fodder when the pods drop. So it provides more food than black locust, but black locust is probably better for posts
Had a honey locust tree in our backyard in the suburbs. About 100 ft. tall and evil. Like one of these trees from a Disney movie in a haunted forest. Thorns were at least 4 inches in length. Tree got hit by lightning one summer and I did a happy dance around the base of the trunk.
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Honey locust is a savanna species. You two should gather a bunch of pods from some urban parks since they plant the thornless variety (Gleditsia triacanthos ‘inermis’. Since they are a true variety their seeds give about 90-95% thornless seedlings. These seedlings would need some protection when young but then you would have sylvopastures of thornless honey locust. We have them throughout the orchard and no thorns is a winner.
Cool idea!
You might be able to grow them to a height above sheep grazing, and just protect them with an electric wire/tape around them until they get established
I have more Black Locust (they're not related) but it's great in that it has thorns when it's young, and then the trunk stops growing them. Makes fantastic posts and lumber--as does Osage Orange (but I don't get much of that up on the higher ground-have to import it from the low lands).
Buckeye-my neighbor had some cattle get sick on them, he cut every one he could find. But what it tells me is that he didn't have enough food/forage for the cattle. He's old school, spends most of his summers making hay, and winters moving it around.
It's a Legume. The seeds & pods are palatable for deer, sheep, goats and cattle. The pods are high in sugar content which provides weight gain. The tree provides ample shade but your are able to grow grass under it too.
Rosinia pseudoacacia is black locust, but I share the enthusiasm for honey locusts. Although it did take me reading Tree Crops to see the light
Haha trees are the best
I sawed a honey locust about 20 years ago and the tree fell the wrong way. One of the thorns went into my shoulder. A person had to get a pliers to pull it out. The thorn was 3 inches long and I still have a scar from it. It didn’t take much to go through my skin and heavy shirt I was wearing.
Man that sounds brutal
@@BenHawley actually it didn’t hurt that much. At first they tried used a tweezers to get it out but realized it was deeper than that.
Been watching Greg's channel for almost a year and like hearing your perspectives on your experiences with him. I have heard the avocado is another archaic tree. Its seed is huge and not consumable by any current herbivore.
Cool
Wild avocados are much smaller, I believe. I've seen a picture of a quetzal (a bird) eating a wild avocado
Wouldn't Black Locust(Robinia pseudoacacia) be a better choice for a pasture due to it having much smaller thorns than Honey Locust? Their growth habits/features are very similar: light dappled shade, nitrogen fixers(some debate as to whether honey locust fixes nitrogen), handle compacted/degraded soil well, firewood, pollinator forage, etc.
The honey locust provides A LOT of fodder when the pods drop. So it provides more food than black locust, but black locust is probably better for posts
this channel... is actually... interesting...
Glad you think so
Honey locust is a tree from hell
Anyone have a link to ben and isaac instagram pages?
Ben’s insta: instagram.com/onthegraze
Isaac’s insta: instagram.com/isaactappenden
Not to mention they may make great trees for tree nesting birds!