I'm doing a graduate degree in music, and I think it's worth noting that the idea of music stirring the emotions and leading to "catharsis" was heartily believed by the Ancient Greeks. Certainly God can use music, but we have to be careful that we are centered on the preaching of the Word.
Unfortunately, most reports replay Asbury using the contemporary music. They have clearly avoided Asbury's use of classic hymns. Asbury is too broad in their scope to just fall into contemporary only!
I’ve had a music ministry and still play at church sometimes and I completely agree with you. Sound doctrine is infinitely more important than music. For that matter strive to have sound doctrine in the music as well.
@@MarkEvanWhite I too play in music ministry, (guitar) . I enjoy or prefer hymns, first. But there are other contemporary that passes theological muster; "In Christ Alone" "Mighty To Save" etc. But I have welled up in years plenty of times when singing the verse that contained words: "It is nailed to the cross and I bear it no more, it is well, it is well with my soul". Emotions are funny things. I refuse to dismiss it as evil. Knowing we are created in God's image. We musicians sometimes are in a precarious position, I don't always like certain songs, but I'll always play skillfully my very best. What else is there?
I'm a pretty fickle person emotionally. I experience many highs and lows, often in the same day. I used think that having an emotional high meant I was filled with the Holy Spirit, while I interpreted an emotional low as being abandoned or punished by God. I've since come to realize, as Scripture explains, that being filled with the Holy Spirit means to abide in Him and to live according to the truth from the moment I get up to the moment I go to bed, day in and day out, regardless of how I feel. Marathon church services don't really mean much in the greater scheme of things. "Revivals" in the sense of people spontaneously coming to Christ is great and all, but what really matters is that they go on to live a life that shows they were truly saved. Live a life of consistently trusting God and studying His word and you will truly be full of the Holy Spirit.
Same. I found that in Church. That my worship was emotional. Emotionalism. SOME Churches I have attended help create that state with music and twisting the word. God is helping me change. Hallelujah
Justin Peters is part of a cult. From his own website: --------------- " There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. " ---------------- This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@colepriceguitar1153 He is part of a cult called Calvinism. Calvinism perverts scripture and denies Jesus' atonement for sin, and it preaches a false Jesus who only died for an elite group. Worse is, they believe true salvation occurs outside of Christ. This is not Christian whatsoever.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU - I am 70 years old and have been abandoned by my family and my former church for reporting abuse within leadership and for speaking out about the false teaching that this particular organization has promoted for decades - so thankful for the true, faithful men of God who are teaching and speaking about what IS truly biblically correct~
You acted as a true child of our Father. It took courage and faith to do what you did, It is disappointing and hurtful how people reacted to you I am sorry for that you deserve better
A true 'personal' revival doesn't have to take place at even a church. God can bring refreshment and revival in our personal walk with Him right in our homes. As a matter of fact God saved me, not in a church, but at my bedside on my knees in repentance at the age of thirty-five. The gospel wasn't being preached to me, but everything I ever heard of the gospel was brought to my mind and conscience. Most especially repentance.
My pastor went to the revival and on the 11th. He said he kept making excuses, but God told him he’d regret it in 10 years if he didn’t go. He used his missing the Super Bowl and driving three hours in the rain that day as an example of dying to self. I spent the last two weeks looking for a new church.
Glad to hear you're practicing discernment and holding to Christ instead of remaining loyal to a person/church you're familiar with. Many wouldn't. Proud of you Brother. 👍🙂
Yesss!!!! This is exactly what’s I’ve been thinking about the Asbury situation. I am having to keep my thoughts and my discernment to myself among my church lady friends. They are so easily going along with the waves it shocks me 😮
People want experiences, yet God's word is available to them. Imagine the bible saying that if you hear them saying Jesus is there, don't go, we are gullible as humans. May God help us...
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I was a Pentecostal for many years, and part of a few so-called revivals in the past. I have left the word of faith movement and I'm now in a biblical sound church. This video has a great breakdown on what a true revival is from a theological perspective. Great to hear these men of God talk about this topic🙏
I was in a nondenominational church for about 2 years after moving to a different province (NB, Canada). I had to leave because I wasn't being fed. It was a stagnant church that focused on bringing in new people, wouldn't talk about sin, emotional, worship concerts, lots of Hillsong, Bethel and Elevation. I left and am in a small country Baptist Church that is biblically sound.
I got saved by the Grace of God at 21, 25 now. I wouldn’t say I grew up in Christianity. But many times in my life before Christ, I went to church events like this. And every time I would go home and be back in my life of sin. I remember at 19-21, I was grieved with my shame and guilt. My girlfriend and I were in ministry, both self deceived. I did a sermon on God’s holiness and I saw the giant distance between God’s perfection and me. I was wrought with grief and I knew I was going to hell. My pastor and elders told me that grace covers me. I found out every Christian around me was living a life of habitual sin. I sat there and told my girlfriend that if this is true Christianity then Christianity isn’t true. Thankfully, we both left that church, went to a biblical church. I got saved, we broke up, eventually the lord brought her back, saved her last year. And we are planning on getting married lord willing. And now we understand what true Christianity is. We were in the hyper grace movement, now we are in a biblical church that preaches the word and pours into the body of believers. With all that said, I can agree this movement will burn out people. That happened to me, thankfully God in his sovereignty decided to save me.
Well I attended a church that had a similar revival. The pastor was extremely anointed. The revival was powerful as he continued to preach repentance. It is the first time I experienced many people rejoice at repentance. And lives changed. 23 years later I am still changes and we spread the good news of the gospel to others.
I used to believe that too. Then the Lord opened my eyes to the fact that we all have the same amount of anointing as children of God with the same Holy Spirit. I also used to say I was a WHOLE Bible believer. Then the Lord opened my eyes to the fact that almost everything I believed was taking Scripture out of context. It was all emotionalism and it was the music that kept me in it for so many years. I challenge you to go 2 months without contemporary Christian music but keep praying and stay in your Bible. See what the Lord does in your life. 🙏🏻
At age 70 and being a Christian for 50 years I am approaching this or any so called revival with deep decernment. Living through and being a part of the charismatic movement we often witnessed these things that led to many false conversions and churches becoming infected with false doctrines. Satan enjoys putting on a show but Jesus doesn't need that at all. True repentance will take place in the private and personal moments we have with God. True revival will begin first in the background during those private moments individuals have. Only our Lord can work out front but in the background.
I am age 70 and I totally agree. I like to think that Jesus is coming soon and if I have 15 more years that's gonna go very quickly and he's coming soon for me.
@ada2step Amen. I thank God for your fair assessment of what is happening in Ashbury. Seems like the Reformed camp is hoping that this revival is a sham. I wonder how they would have reacted during the First Great Awakening
@@kevinevans8892 it seems like to me and reading all ur comments ur unable to accept the opinions and facts of others and you so desperately want Asbury to be a real revival. God doesn't work that way Sir. These men are actually giving you scripture to back up what they are saying. Go read about the Azusa revival or the revival in the Hebrides or the revival that happened in Pond Inlet and around those surrounding areas . True revival is always birthed in deep repentance, prayer and intercession. And I never read about any revival throughout history having meetings for certain age groups or homosexual people leading worship or services. You can't just take somethings from what's happening at Asbury and ignore others it doesn't work that way
At 65 years of age. And growing up in church, attending many different churches. I have seen many so called revivals. The thing that bothers me...is after those meetings. The growth does not follow. The people go back to the stagnant way of life. Years later they still have not grown in they're faith or love in God. Still committing the same sins, over and over. But still believing that Heaven will be they're home when they die. I gave my heart to God when I was 9 years old, in my bedroom...alone. Then from then grew in my faith in God. I have very little regret in my life, experienced falls, picked myself back up...asked God to forgive my sin. And moved forward away from that sin, to never do it again. That's real repentance, a faith in God that keeps you moving forward, growing, leaving sinful ways and actions behind. It does not stop at the alter, but moves forward...to a greater and greater love for God. Yes, some really do really repent in these meeting. And for that I'm very thankful but it hurts to see the many that got swept in by the emotions and never really repented. So sad.😢
I'm very glad you covered this Justin. I did a short video too as even at my limited level of knowledge and understanding, even I saw issues here that needed to be addressed. Truth must prevail, and the Word of God must come first in such things. Bless you all
Justin Peters is part of a dangerous cult. From his own website: " There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. " This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@TEXAS-SMITH The Catholics say the same thing when I tell them Jesus is the "rock." So I read it every day, but they -and now Calvinists- keep telling me the same thing. So I keep reading it. I say with some certainty that reformed theology (ie. Calvinism and Arminianism) is a cult as much as Catholicism. Christians need to stop sitting on the fence about this.
@@TEXAS-SMITH NO... jedi is actually correct!!! Calvininists believe in predestination meaning that God chose from the beginning who will be saved and nothing we do can change that. Ive heard calvinists teach that after they get saved they can live the way they want and are still saved. This is once saved always saved. This is not true. Paul clearly teaches that while under grace we do not continue to sin. Our names can be blotted out of the Book of Life. God knows the end from the beginning so he knows who will respond and who will turn away. That's not predestination but simply that the author knows the end of story. We do not know. Which is why we evangelize. We also have to live within God's laws to keep our heart tender towards him. If we were allowed to keep sinning because we once gave our life then our hearts would be hard. Calvinists are excellent Bible teachers, like Peters, but they are NOT CORRECT in a few very important areas.
@jedimasterham2 it is scriptual. It runs through the whole Bible. Just read Paul's letters such as Romans. All you did was complain about something, you either proved error nor offered a valid alternative.
I sincerely appreciate your ministry and your gift of rightly dividing the word of God. It has been a blessing of growth to my faith since finding your ministry.
I know people don't like hearing this, but Justin Peters is part of a cult. From his own website: --------------- " There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. " ---------------- This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
What a timely and discerning and helpful discussion ! Praise God. Thank you so much brothers Justin, Josh, Scott and Matt for giving clarity and light to falsehood in this “revival” thing! Soli Deo Gloria.
We should be very careful with Justin Peters. He is part of a dangerous cult called Calvinism. Calvinism deny Jesus' atonement for sin, preach a false Jesus who didn't die for everyone's sin, and believe true salvation occurs outside of Christ. From his own website:, Justin writes: " There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. " This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@jedimasterham2 brother , I think you have made a very terrible mistake! Please do not write falsehood and lies about His faithful saint because vengeance belongs to The Lord and He is always faithful and true to His own. Hallelujah. If you are a true Christian, it is time that you confess your sins against God and truly repent and our ever Gracious Father will forgive you of your sins. Praise God.
Hallelujah! The voices of solid biblical truth and reason. So thankful for you godly men. May God give discernment to countless others who are blinded by feelings and not grounded in the Word !
Hey Kim, be very careful with Justin Peters. He is part of a dangerous cult called Calvinism. Calvinist deny Jesus' atonement for sin, preach a false Jesus who didn't die for everyone's sin, and believe true salvation occurs outside of Christ. From his own website:, Justin writes: " There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. " This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@allaboutgrace2560 The context of the passage is on two fronts, 1. The Israelites as a nation coming out of captivity. 2. The foreshadowing to Christ and the ultimate reviving to life. Now that we are alive in Christ and covered by His blood, can we be revived a second time? According to scripture no. There are 4 heart states as shown in the parable of the sower and the seed. Only one is good heart soil and never departs from the Lord. 2 heart states, although had the banner of christian, did falle away. So revival is not biblical. You are already in Christ and growing or you are damned.
PRAY for the kids!!! PRAY that tbe LORD would keep dealing with their hearts and would PROTECT them from the Wolves. I got saved dureing the JESUS movement. Some of tbe people passing out materials like Bibles and Tracts were actually from "TheWay" and the LORD protected me. I ended up going to the DBC in Detroit, Mich and grew in discernment and strength with a Deep desire to witness to everyone who would listen. PRAY for these kids❤
Same here I also got saved during the Jesus movement and it's the best thing that's ever happened to me People said it wouldn't last and it wasn't real So glad I didn't listen to the naysayers 73 yrs old now and still serving the Lord. God inhabits the praises of his people. Some of my friends went on to being pastors. Thanks for sharing my precious sister in the Lord Blessings
Kathy Jones, the Whole Point of my statement was to say not everything was Right about the Jesus movement. There wete alot of CULTS springing up as a RESULT of Very BAD teaching!! I said that the LORD Protected me, which means I never got involved with them. But I did end up with a BIBLE. The DBC I ended up goung to was Detroit Bible College which later on became Tyndale Bible College. The sentence I said about growning in Discernment had to do wirh my relentless desire to be in GODS WORD in Study and Prayer. But just to say, there was evidence of Cults very much so all around me. But tjat doesnt mean I JOINED THEM😉
What an absolutely outstanding discussion! I grew up as a Pentecostal, and used to pursue experiences. You are so right that this cannot be sustained. People do not grow spiritually by singing 24/7.
2 Thess 2:3 - day of the Lord after antichrist sits in temple. AC in temple is at midpoint -> day of Lord is after midpoint. Rapture happens same time as day of Lord -> rapture is after midpoint. Why does Justin say rapture is at beginning? Why would any pastor say that?
@@MaximusAurelius1987 pre-trib rapture has to be taught. You are right about 2 Thess 2. But I’ll do you one better. When you compare 2 Thess 2:1 to 1 Thess 4:14-17 the connection is unmistakable. More so, Paul clearly puts 2 conditions before this event (The Lord’s coming and our being gathered unto Him). Those being the great Apostasy and the unveiling of the Antichrist. If this is so (and it is) then the rapture cannot be pre-trib.
When I was first aware of my need for a Savior, I really struggled with feelings, mysicism, etc. It was years before I finally understood it's about taking God at His Word. Thanks for dealing with this.
Hey Tim, please be careful with Justin Peters. He is part of a dangerous cult. From his own website: " There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. " This is not Scriptural and it is antichristian.
@@jedimasterham2 Predestination and Free Will are only two of the many misunderstood contrast in Scripture but I will explain it in the simplest way I can so you can understand. In the Scripture, there are many groups of people of GOD but are in fact only divided into two: Those who are "called," and those who are "chosen" (a.k.a. the Elects), hence what was written by Matthew in 22:14 as "Many are CALLED but only few are CHOSEN." If you are "called," then you are only invited to come but you still have a "free will," to choose whether you want to accept HIS invitation or not; or either stay and leave HIS feast. The "chosen," or "elected," by GOD, on the other hand, such as the Prophets, the Apostles, the Disciples are the only ones who are "predestined," by GOD to do specific tasks for HIM even before they were conceived in their mother's womb and that is even if they do not want to. These are the people that no matter what they do and however hard they try to escape the path GOD has "predestined," for them, they often find themselves being chased and pursued by GOD Himself even if they refuse, runaway and hide (as the Prophet Jonah). Now... Many Christians today tend to teach that "predestination," is applicable to everyone, but then, often find themselves on a dead end when faced by the question..."but how about those who end up doing all the wrongs and evil, did GOD planned that for them too? Isn't that not fair?" As if it is also GOD's plan to assign the greater majority to go to hell? The general predestination doctrine has a dead end because it is not only flawed but is also false and erroneous. Predestination is only applicable to the Elects or those whom GOD has assigned and hand-picked to work for HIM to execute HIS Will. But as for the rest who are not chosen to work for HIM, you are called, but the freedom to choose (free will) to follow and obey HIM or not, is still up to you. Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I set you apart and appointed you as a prophet to the nations." Ctto: Ms Angela Atienza
@@jedimasterham2 He (Justin) is right. Either that or God is a liar when He says that the unsaved are dead in sin and cannot come to Him unless he is drawn ("helkuo" - *dragged*) by the Father. So, there ya go. I take it you're a Pelagian?
Jedi why do you keep repeating yourself it's like we heard you the 1st time We're not gonna take your word for it I take scriptures word for it The Holy Bible
@@timbrown6599 No, I’m just a Bible believing Christian. If something isn’t scriptural, it needs to be pointed out. Unfortunately, Justin Peters believes in a false gospel. There’s no way to sugarcoat this.
God Bless you all ! very Balanced helpful talk for those hungry souls to grow in the word of God! & we need to pray for the new converts , God to protect from infiltration of the wolfs & to lead them to the right Shepherds !!!!
I was at the ' Jesus Movement" back in the early 70's - I was 19. What's going on at this "Asbury revival" is exactly like it was for me back then. I never heard the word "repentance", speaking in tongues was "cool" and I really believed I was SO spiritual. I got "baptized" in the ocean in La Jolla, Ca and thought I was "on my way" as a "Christian". My "walk" was truly on the broad and not the narrow way because for the next 35 years I did things I cannot mention. Was I "saved"? NO!! No way! It wasn't until 2014, when I was literally brought to the end of myself, that I truly repented, turned from my sins, and put my faith and trust in Christ. The one thing that "followed" from the 70's was this "speaking in tongues" and being "charismatic" (Exactly the kinda stuff that happens at Bethel, etc) It wasn't until I was checking out Christian content on TH-cam in 2017 that I began listening to these guys talking about "Strange Fire". I found out the "guys" were Todd Friel, John MacArthur, Justin Peters, and Phil Johnson. What was presented in that conference which originally aired in 2013, opened my eyes. I am so thankful to God for leading me OUT of the charismatic church and teaching me that "tongues" today is not Biblical. I walked away (mostly ran away!) from false teachers who are "wolves". I began reading and studying His amazing word every day! I found a Biblically based church, and truly know I am saved.... I belong to my loving Savior Jesus and am walking with Him on the "narrow" road every day.
@ "l o f" Consider that you in deed were saved as at the first experience and that it takes a lifetime of Sin to make one realize that God Almighty has been waiting on you to gain full knowledge of the meaning of Repentance Jesus said l will never leave or forsake thee. If you had stayed in the first calling you might have been unable to obtain the faith you Now Have. Luke. 7:47.l Believe that verse speaks Truth about Loving God/Jesus. AMEN.
Agree!! I too remember the "Jesus Movement" of the 70's I'm getting old ha! It was anything BUT about Jesus Christ! in my experience from what I witnessed, others may have had different experiences.
What a truth-filled, biblical revealing of what a true biblical revival is. Yes, God will use any means He chooses, but revival is of God and by God. We cannot command Him. Thank you, Justin, for taking the time you did on this and for sharing. God bless you all.
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Thanks to what I have learned over the last 5 years from YT discernment ministry channels and other internet podcasts I was able to assess Asbury before critiquing videos were posted. I praise God that I am able to do this now. I was in charismatic/pentacostal/WOF/prosperity churches for 10 years back in the 1990s and left just after the Toronto blessing arrived in Australia. Unfortunately back there there was not information available on the internet, I was married to a non Christian and friends were all in same churches. God was faithful and used the introduction of loud music to get me out.
Well done! I believe you all have set a standard, if not THE standard, for evaluating the Asbury event. I'm sure I speak for others who've had the same reservations, concerns, and questions as were raised in this video when I say thank you all for dealing with them. To hear that the proof of validity should have been repentance on the part of the school re: rejection of Scripture (female pastors, LGBT activity) spoke volumes. A move of God certainly would have addressed such obvious sins. Thank you for the work involved getting this one together. Much needed. I'll share this with our church.
Hey, please be very wary. Justin Peters is part of a dangerous cult called Calvinism. From his own website, he writes: " There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. " This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian.. It's a cult similar to Mormonism, SDA, JW, and Catholicism.
@@jedimasterham2 Appears the "Cult of Calvinism" had captured Paul 2,000 years ago, before Calvin existed. "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)"
@@butgod2480 Ephesians Chapter 2, the Holy Ghost Writing through Paul, well Stated in using those most wonderful Holy Scriptures Sir! If I may add, but from a Source outside of the Bible: "it is nickname to call it Calvinism, Calvinism is the Gospel, and nothing else" -Charles Spurgeon. Indeed Brother, Calvinism is the Truth of Holy Writ, it is the Gospel correctly understood, correctly taught, and correctly explained, it is the Truth, it is no cult, it is merely...the Gospel. Arminianism is to be rebuked whenever it crops its ugly Head, in the Hope that the Person dead in their Sins who holds to it is bought to Repentance and to Faith in the True Messiah, the True Christ Jesus. For Arminianism is an invention of the Unregenerate Flesh ("We are all born Arminian" -George Whitefield, on why we need to be Born Again!) , it is a Lie of Rome, of Hell, and of the Devil, and is to be rebuked whenever seen, and well rebuked there with the Scriptures beloved Brother! Love and Peace.
Thank you Justin for putting this together, very wise input and discernment, The one thing needed today in the Church is spiritual Discernment, without it people will tossed too and fro just from emotionalism. Sound preaching and Sound Doctrine is the way to true conversion. God might like singing praises to Him but he requires and Loves Obedience.
Been waiting to hear JP's response to the Asbury event, and he doesn't disappoint. Discerning observations are made by him and his guests which they then logically support and explain Scripturally, historically, and experientially. They make (and explain) observations and go deeper than what has occurred to me. My appreciation for God's word and respect for these men's understanding was increased by hearing what is said here. This is the ministering of God's truth which could actually lead to legitimate revival.
People flying in from all over the world!!!! We want this revival SO BADLY!!!! Spread the love people!! Jesus can work anywhere......anytime!!! He can use a Donkey!!!! God bless all who seek Revival. God love on all those who so want to help others to come to our sweet Lord Jesus. God bless each and every soul that moves toward what Jesus taught us. Holy Spirit lead us!!! We give thanks and we give honor to you dear Lord!!
Thank you Justin for what you do, I haven’t watched any of the revival just seen it posted on social media. I live close to a city in which a church hosted a drag queen event on the weekend with children involved. I can’t believe a church would host such an ungodly event.
Thank you Justin for putting this program on. My background is similar to Marc's. I attended Spring Arbor College and Marion College, both in the Wesley \Holines Movement in the 50's. These types of "Revivals" occurred in both colleges. Looking back ,they both lacked the growth of spiritual life as evidenced by the fruit of the spirit. It was spiritual dead end for many. God led me by His grace in 1969 to Grace Church in So Cal. John MacArthur was just beginning his ministry. It was a small church which was packed four times on Sunday and Wednesday night. I witnessed and experienced true revival as John taught verse by verse each time. A method I had never seen in "holiness" churchs in 30 years. Young people came with their Bibles and crowded around John listening to every word and even stopping him to ask questions. That was a true Biblical revival and has born much fruit over the years.
This age group has grown up on Bethel, Elevation, Maverick City, Hillsong music and NAR movement. This is what they know. Turn the lights on, turn off the music and open God's preaching the gospel. Who would be left? Not this young crowd
In speaking of conversion God used the Mormon church to bring me to a knowledge of him but then I met a genuine Christian and his discipling me led me to Christ. Also dr. Jay Vernon McGee and through the Bible have been foundational in my life to strength in me as a Christian. But it's always been the Bible that has truly done the work in me and of course the holy Spirit using the word.
I was in the Charismatic movement in the Catholic church , left with my Dad at age 16 and was non denominational until age 30 but then the prosperity gospel came in . I had some personal issues come in and became a Latter-day Saint at age 30 and now I am 60 . I did accept Jesus Christ as my Savior at age 16 at a charismatic home meeting that was run by a Pastor and his wife.
Thank you so much for this video. This has been so hard because I live so close to this small town. I have witnessed so much hypocrisy & unfriendliness from so many. I pray that this does change this cold, self righteous town. I hope this doesn’t come off mean but sometimes hurt from so called Christians hurt the deepest. Thanks again!
You guys are masters of hearsay. Your criticisms are trite. Do you make no attempt to interact with credible sources because you sense that you can't hold a candle to them? Call the college. You make yourselves appear ignorant before those who actually know what is going on.
The entrance of thy word gives life,it gives understanding unto the simple. When a person is in the word,the will learn about God's character...and themselves in the light of the truth. Not an emotion which can change so much in a days time.
I have watch many videos about Asbury. This is the best one. It is very clear and sound. It covered many topics. I have been interested in apologetics for about 4 yrs and this event has given me a chance to compare and contrast what is biblical. I agree completely that words can mean different things to different groups. Especially the buzz words: Holy Spirit, gospel, repentance, Jesus, etc. For example: confusing confession with repentance or the gospel being Jesus loves you (which is not the gospel). Great job guys! The truth is so transforming for our hearts.
To God be the glory i just love the way you put things in prospective because people are to know the truth and sad enough many people don't and they are deceive by what they see and what they hear without discerning and so many are falling for what is false true revival comes from true repentance and true repentance comes from only by the word of God thank you Pastor Justin and your team for sharing this Biblical teachings now we have been warned we must be careful
Ever since I heard of this revival I felt very disconnected to it and have not gotten caught up in the craze. Kinda kept it at arms length amidst the continued news about it. Not saying I’m right, but the Holy Spirit has not impressed upon me to give this any attention or focus. I appreciate this video! I pray that hearts and lives are changed by the Father. Time will Tell.
A lot of my family watches flash point and victory channel and they are using this revival as proof that "the great revival" is coming. I didn't pay much attention to it. One revival is not a great revival that will save America. My church is about to do a revival here in a few weeks. It's the first one I've been too at that church. The church secretary and maintenance guy is part of the family that watches flash point and victory channel. I don't think my pastor does. I just hope it is a true revival and not a flash point/ victory channel revival. I'm nervous.
I want to also thank you all, for talking about this. Making my heart very greatful for men like you all teaching the truth of the bible. This has been a blessing to me...God's blessings on you all.
We are so fortunate to have you and anyone else in the Reformed Community to lead us to truth because as we all know, the Reformed brethren ALWAYS have the answers and their Theology is without flaw. ( We won't quibble over their teaching of Predestination or Cessationism) The high sheriff of Christianity has spoken. There is no need to question anything here! "The arrogance of making experience into a theology that trumps Scripture is exceeded only by the arrogance of making lack of experience into a theology that trumps Scripture." Good day Gentlemen!
I am SO GLAD that I took the time to listen to this teaching!!! From the start I was very hesitant to call this a true ‘revival’…this has backed up all the questions that I have had in that it just didn’t seem to line up with God’s word. Thank you gentlemen!
Justin Peters is part of a dangerous cult. From his own website: " There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. " This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian.. It's a cult.
@@jedimasterham2 none sought God, none are good, we love God because He loved us first, many are called few chosen. God calls you, you didn't seek Him first. God is the one who gives a measure of faith not you.
@@usernametaken6659 Read scripture. God draws everyone. John 12:32 reads that Jesus “draws all people to Himself.” God “desires everyone to be saved, and come to knowledge of the truth.” (1 Timothy 2:4)
I followed and listened closely to the Asbury meetings and saw the Word preached regularly, Scripture readings, testimonies, worship, students coming to the altar - it was a very simple and genuine expression by the students, of love of the Lord Jesus, prayer, conviction and repentance - The Holy Spirit was at work - it was "aborted" by leadership and infrastructure/logistics which were expressed by the Asbury president on the 23 Feb- it was a planned closure which to me does not give the Holy Spirit the ability to continue to move freely - That saddened me - I do believe we will see the fruit of the Spirit by many students Many people came to Asbury because many churches are not "feeding" its flock- the sheep are hungry and thirsty for the true inerrant Living Word - the true Gospel! The true Gospel overrides all denominations and ideologies -Jesus Christ is our Model and Deliverer of all our sins and inequities. No compromise! Total Surrender and dying to our sinful nature - The Scripture is clear on this!
True revival will NEVER be a dog and pony show, but an outworking of faith, hope and love, first towards Jesus Christ and then towards others. I didn't see anyone emptying their pockets to give to the poor.
I was already a believer when I visited Brownsville in Pensacola during the height of their revival back in 1996. I observed a lot of people getting swept up in the emotion of the service, there was a sermon but from what I recall, very little scripture. The focus was on the alter call which came after about two hours of ever increasing emotional worship. People were falling down, shaking uncontrollably, crying and yelling. There was a lot of talk about the great work God was doing through their church and how God would change your life if you accepted Christ. One of the staff there told me I would wake up the next morning feeling different. I didn’t.
I attended this event a bunch of times. I rededicated my life their and it had a huge impact on my life. Looking back it was alot of emotion but the evangelist preached the true gospel. I think he was a fan of Finney so it makes since he would try to bring people to a decision. However, I learned a bunch of NAR like teaching as my visits her spanned over the years. I had to unlearn a bunch of doctrine.
Jesus still heals thru pray today for sure! I was healed of an abscess in my abdomen, caused by a ruptured appendix, in one day, because I prayed for healing all night, in Jesus Name and the next day it was completely gone! It was Jesus through faith that healed me! I would have died without him! Do you not believe that the Lord still does miraculous healings today? Is it your view that the Holy Spirit no longer has the power to heal?
I believe you men are correct on this. True Revival ,people will know. They just will. People's lives will change from thier sinful ways, and it will spread all over. Revivals are not just about music. It is a true preaching of The Gosple of Jesus and turning from our sins.
@@Taushathetech wow, what you shared got me teary eyed because it was during the start of the pandemic that I began to use u tube and found many sound teachers and pastors that I had never heard of before. I used to attend a WOF Prosperity church some years back, changed churches due to moving and still had a WOF mindset. The new church helped and then listening to sound pastors like Justin Peters, etc. call heresy out. I did not know that it was okay to do it. I was overwhelmed by trying to understand sound truth verses false teaching. God was moving me out of false doctrines. I threw books away. I finally told a family member and it was not accepted too well but I am praying for them. Now, I am open to another eschatology teaching. Heard a teaching that I am really being shown that some may be deceived. God will help His own understand. God bless you! 🙏
Justin You lose all credibility when you put on a unidentified man purporting to a Asbury University student talking about homosexuality. You should not put hearsay on your site. Sloppy work for so called Hersey hunter
It don't mean a graduate degree in anything. It's you heart.. repentance means change of mind and actions. Hermeneutics is interpretation of biblical scripture..
anything that makes the empty church parking lots overflow, and people crowd outside the windows, and the skeptical public gets interested is not to be discounted lightly. Why is it that the ones in the pulpits are always the most skeptical?? They should be ecstatic that there is not one seat vacant, and people are trying to get in. Im sure these skeptical leaders are like the ones who chastised the woman in the crowd just trying to get to Jesus to touch his garment in faith. a
Revival can still happen Accapella, just hearts that want to worship a Holy God and even in the quietness of ones own room, the Presence of God will come. He finds those who earnestly SEEK Him.
Thank you for your discernment-it is so lacking in the local church today. Lighthouse trails has dedicated their whole ministry to enlighten people as to the things that are entering the church today!
I threw out all the CDs and DVDs Of Hillsong, and other charismatic music as well recently and thank you for bringing out this video it is making things more clearer for me
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I truly appreciate you doing these videos!! I began listening to you and John MacArthur after an experience I had at a local church I was going to. My husband and daughter and I just moved from NY to SC and I was baptized in NY. I was looking for a church desperately that preaches the Word of God. We began to attend this one church out here in SC and they were having a ‘Revival Night’ and what I experienced left me confused. Not about what I believed but about what I was seeing in the pastor and the congregation. I immediately began to pray for the pastor and the congregation… that the Lord would open their eyes and ears and heart to the truth of His word. There were also things that were done in the church in NY that left me uncomfortable and that eventually I began to practice and do as well. But in reading and studying scripture it was obvious the contradictions. So after that ‘Revival Night’ I began to look on TH-cam… i know that shouldn’t be my first source… but I was looking for a pastor that aligned with the Word that I could listen to bc I just cant find one here. It is heartbreaking… i just want to know Gods Word and teach my children and live in obedience to my Father. I dont want these ‘experiences’… I just want to sit with fellow believers and soak up the amazing Word of God! I just cant find that so I look to pastors online. And so I came across your channel and John MacArthur and a few others and I am so very grateful for how clear and concise you both make Gods Word. I am truly able to see the difference from where I was in the understanding of Gods Word to now. I am so grateful that I can see and discern properly… with a sound mind… able to use my mind and not test things by how i feel or with my mind disengaged anymore. I cannot thank you enough! 🙏🏼❤️
2 Thess 2:3 - day of the Lord after antichrist sits in temple. AC in temple is at midpoint -> day of Lord is after midpoint. Rapture happens same time as day of Lord -> rapture is after midpoint. Why does Justin say rapture is at beginning? Why does John MacArthur say that?
Be careful with people like MacArthur and Justin Peters. both are part of a dangerous cult. From his own website: " There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. " This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
Thank you I have explained to my wife that this was an emotional fueled event not revival. Thanks for someone who is respected in theology for addressing this
I was skeptical from the moment I began hearing about it. The more I hear about it the more skeptical I’ve gotten. I’m not questioning the sincerity of the people that were there, but I’m still not convinced this is an actual revival. Not to mention that when I hear the names Furtick and White as people who were supposed to be there, my alarm bells go off immediately.
It's almost like these new believers are being placed in the garden. Maybe there are 2 trees to choose from at this revival, also. One is TRUTH, and the other is "good AND evil" mixed. Trees with bad fruit will always produce like kind. I wish only the tree of life was at Asbury, but it is more likely both trees are there. You are right, we will have to wait to see if ANY good fruit is produced.
Neither Stephen Furtick nor James White was invited to or did attend any of these meetings. Todd Bentley was prevented from participating in any activities or meetings. No "NAR" preachers "were called on to speak at Asbury." Nor was Rick Warren or Kanye West. Thank you.
I’m guessing you’re referring to a different James White than the one from Alpha and Omega ministries? I can’t see him and Steven Furtick speaking at the same location.
Having been a Christian missionary for many years and I am a result the Jesus movement of the 70's. That was probably the greatest Christian revival or Holy Spirit movement in the U.S. I first received the Gospel as a teenager at a Billy Graham Crusade in 1976. There are emotion as well as God's Word involved in Christian ministry, period. There must be people who are moved by the Spirit of God as well as the Word of God that brings repentance and true salvation. Let us not forget the importance of biblical discipleship that must be a part of any movement. God's people must teach biblical obedience for new believers to know and do what God wants.
So much biblical insight and wisdom. Thank you all so much for taking the time to properly interpret God’s Word in light of discernment for this event. There were so many nuggets of truth addressed in this video as well, thank you!
Hi Chee, please bee careful with Justin Peters. He is part of a dangerous cult. From his own website: " There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. " This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@amandaturner8928 Hi Amanda. I'm not against him. I'm warning people about the false doctrine and false Christ in Calvinism and Arminianism. Justin Peters is a staunch Calvinist, and he believes in things that are blatantly unscriptural and antichristian. People need to be aware of this. Ephesians 5:11 instructs us to "expose works of darkness" like Calvinism. Many of us are doing just that. What do you know of Calvinism? In particular, do you know what they think about salvation?
Great video! This sheds Biblically discerning light on this event. That the initial sermon that set off the 'revival' wasn't overtly heretical BUT did not present the complete gospel emphasizing repentance says a lot. Having also watched a fair bit of the livestream video of the event this analysis seems very accurate. Much greater discernment is badly needed among the professing church.
God is good all the time . He knows who is a true believer who listens to his still voice.He is theWay The Truth and the Life. Thank you Jesus for saving my soul on the Cross and dying for my sins. I give you all the Glory.❤🙏
Glory to God for using you and the godly men on your panel to expound on and share biblical truths regarding this movement. Was waiting to hear your take on this. And byGod's metcy and grace, I wasn't disappointed. We know that there is nothing God can't do, but He works through His words. Romans 10:17 KJV - So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. I pray that the children of God who are a part of this, will prayerfully stay in His words for out of it flows the issues of life. His words are true. Thank you brother Peter's for an awesome and very informative video. May God bless you and Kathy.
I have been there and have the T-Shirt. A little different perspective on the slaying in the spirit... as a new Christian I went to one of Benny Hinn's early meetings. I knew nothing of what to expect, during a hymn singing he was walking down the aisles, no one was holding hands, I had my eyes closed with hands raised up singing. I don't remember what he spoke, but it was not the insanity he got into later and he never touched us; however, I went down as did everyone else in the row. It was a supernatural power. Now I know it was demonic. At the time it felt wonderful. This is why many will not believe it is bad.
Appreciate this discusion. I agree with your observations. I had been also wondering why are people traveling and wanting to be there, when we are warned in scripture not to run to places where they are claiming that Jesus is at.
I live in the Netherlands. Saw the Ashbury thing and waited, because somehow it did not taste good, but could not put my finger on it. I missed preaching the Word and it felt like Hara Krishna people repeating over and over again the lyrics. Also the students did not sleep much during this thing. And that is something odd too. Because in certain sects they also let the people not sleep or nearly sleep. It makes a person very vulnerable and then you can influance a person better.
That ìs very well done, ideal seeing the event in view of The Holy Scripture .May my thanks to the Living God who preserve such brothers for a time as this!
Tq again Ps. I watched to the end so as not to miss anything! But as I was listening, it occurred to me my own maturity n discernment comes not at the beginning as I was attending Benny Hin’s, large n crowded meeting. Only later we started to realised the true teachings! So I feel these youths are seekers n looking for God n His holiness n we just hope n pray, as u n the other godly men, that they’d be led to true worship, holiness of God! I’m sure, He’s waiting!🙏❤️
I have seen this exact thing at a church in toronto ontario and it was big! People from all over went to this church to experience the same revival. I saw people acting totally crazy and even singing secular music while still pretending to be worshipping God. The singers were dressed like the woke people do and it is just not what God describes in His Word.
@@joshuazsmith25 N&J may mean something different from the definition I got from "got questions": Woke is a fairly modern term that has come to mean "conscious of injustice in society."
@@joshuazsmith25 Now that you have heard it you won't unhear it. I was trying to find out about "woke" maybe a month ago. Now it's in everything, everywhere.
How very sad!! I understand about discernment, but for real! All of you pounced on this like a vulture picking apart and dissecting it until there was nothing left of it! Would you rather there be a gay pride parade? Maybe another drag queen event?! Tear apart the "so called revival", as you call it, but I'm sure there were genuine conversions happening!
Thank you, Justin and friends. I am a 70 yr old Vermont native and we rarely pay much attention to outpourings of emotions here unless, of course, we find ourself standing between a bull and his lady ... in the dark. I suppose that's when an emotional reaction could be considered pretty "real". As for revivals, I have heard of them coming and going but they all seem to run their course like a wave that crashes on shore leaving nothing but a mess of disillusionment and debris; only to be cleaned up later. They never quite seem to reach the shores of Vermont. I see a lot of emotional people praying and seeking God's embrace and I'm happy about that. I think that's a good thing. But it seems like in no time at all, that someone out of nowhere feels the need to take charge, make everyone hold hands and does nothing but get in God's way. Leave them alone. Let them pray. "Real" is what really matters and revivals quickly become a sham if they aren't attended by the kind of fear, hopelessness and dread that overtakes a humble seeking heart when is allowed to approach God and His "God-ness". If this revival is "real", nothing would matter to anyone except getting right with God. The most healthy fear of God that I ever felt in my life came upon me as I realized that I had been presuming upon Him for a very long time. I was either a "make-believer" or I was a "fake-believer". As a Baptist Minister's kid, we learn early how to put on our spiritual hat in public while cultivating a sinful life in secret. But then came a day when everything changed. It was sudden and it was very real. I was alone in my safe place where nobody could see me yet I was suddenly convicted of my hypocrisy and I felt drenched with shame. The Holy Spirit convicted me for thinking that my service and my prayers and my presence in Sunday morning worship was a blessing to Him and I was doing Him a favor by serving Him. That was on February 10th, in 1989. I will never forget it as I suddenly realized that there was no place to hide. I was suddenly visited by God and He meant business. He wasn't going anywhere and I couldn't get away. We were One on one and it was a very hot feeling place to be. This lasted well over four years as I lived and functioned every day in dark silence and sorrow. I learned in that darkened schoolroom that God was God and I was nothing. I realized that I was definitely not the gift to HIm that I thought I was as a youth leader, deacon, elder, teacher, discipler and secret sinner. For a long time, my wife had a fourth child on her hand as I was spiritually broken in pieces. I know that she wondered if I would ever come out of it and I wondered why she didn't just up and leave me. I was very broken and very scary unstable. I knew that I was totally at His mercy and unless God responded to the honesty of my brokenness and contrition with His Grace, I was damned forever and no amount of emotions and tears would sway Him. He knew my heart better than I did. Getting right with God meant "everything!" and staying right with God was all that mattered to me. I totally repented of every sin I knew of. I may have even gone too far in making up a few but I think God liked that. My revival was real because I was desperate to get right with Him and nothing got in my way. I knew that I had to go to people that I had taken advantage of and ask forgiveness for things I had done 20 years before. I went to others who I had held bitterness toward and I asked forgiveness for that too. I didn't stop until "every" sinful act and thought was confessed and that I had followed through with everything God wanted me to do. Well, this event is sending a lot of signals for sure but one that I continue to wait for is to hear confessions of sin and testimonies of humiliation and brokenness and expressions of desperate longing and hunger for righteousness before God, not the professors, so called ministers or any man .. or woman. I wait for somebody, anybody to stand up and affirm that God's Word must not be tampered with. What He said thousands of years ago remains just as true today. Now that would make me sit up and take notice because then I would erupt in praise, knowing that we have a revival on our hands that is "real". So far, I am disappointed as there seems to be more of an interest in impressing the media rather than seeking God. It feels more to me like our annual county fair with different booths and side shows. I really do hope I'm wrong about that and I would rejoice to admit it should there be even a slight shift toward acknowledging God's absolute authority as written to us in His Word. Sadly, I mostly hear attempts to excuse sin while endless songs and music drown out any chance of hearing God's truth. In a real revival God actually blesses the sin-saturated soul with His terrifying Holiness. Yes, I meant that. When God blesses us with conviction we are only a step away from the comfort of forgiveness and reconciliation. If that ever happened it seems to me that drums, cymbals and guitars would dare not to make a sound or offer a peep of feedback as God takes center stage and shares it with nobody. I will keep watching and keep looking for expressions of brokenness over sin and defiance over the authority of God's Word. I hope to see the kind of revival that would compel the penitent sinner to give up everything for the privilege to dwell in the presence of His fellowship and to feel His comforting embrace. I still await for just one speaker who will stand up and dare to shout "Stop it!" to the "show" and then present God as Holy and high and lifted up; so high and so holy and so lifted up that the only emotional response that could be trusted would be a cry (perhaps even a shriek) coming from the depths of sin-saturated souls that suddenly awaken to their own condemnation. Like Isaiah, the holy prophet who exclaimed when he had his holy encounter with God, "Woe is me, for I am ruined!" - The rest is history as God used him in a mighty way. I truly pray that something "real" will come out of this and that the world will not look back in a couple of years and mock the event as nothing but a show.
Even in the Old Testament revivals came and left Isaiah 30:13 says this " In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength, but you would have none of it."..."yet the LORD longs to be gracious to you; He rises to show compassion." Our God is faithful and always extends the opportunity to come into His Presence, but it takes a hunger and thirst in us to keep the incense burning. It takes a person such as a Jeremiah whose message never changed, but like the LORD many times said the people were stiff necked and stubborn people. I think it's us who have to change our ways of showing faithfulness to God. Don't you think that true revival will be a messy event as God deals with the reality of SIN in our lives and often true brokenness comes with some emotionalism. God understands and sees it differently perhaps than we do, as I find that even in myself to much emotionalism makes me uncomfortable, but that's me not God. Remember in the Old Testament often they resorted to sack cloth and ashes and the taring of ones cloths. I guess we would be uncomfortable with that form also. I pray that God may be God and draw us and change us. God Bless
Have been and am in brokenness I totally relate to your post. The Lord put me into Jeremiah chapter 2 for quite some time then Jeremiah chapter 3. And now win the word daily again after backsliding and at last laying down alcohol. Bless you for your post
This revival reminds me of the Jesus Movement of the ‘70s. Lots of fervor, lots of emotions, lots and lots of people responding to the altar calls where they all received a copy of the good News Bible. This calls to mind Mark 4:3-8. It’s difficult to maintain that level of emotion when the revival is over and people go back to their regular lives.
Justin I have trained in martial arts All Eastern religious chant The same thing over and over Doing this can lead to disengaging your mind Then emotions take over and u can be lead to doing things That u can accomplish the thing u want This is dangerous GOD wants everything engaged Especially our mind so we won't be lead away from GOD'S GOOD NEWS
I believe that a mark of someone who is truly saved is discernment. When you are living in accordance to the word, it is easier to spot counterfeit doctrine and false teachings and therefore able to stay grounded. God bless, my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus!
Thanks Justin. Great video. I was healed, but my husband said that it was a gift from God not the charismatic preacher who was yelling at me. I am still healed, but no limbs grew back. I very much enjoy your teachings. The NAR is a slippery slope. They do get emotions running high. Jesus should be enough for us. Reading your Bible is also very important. It was harder to fool me once I was reading daily. God bless. Keep the videos coming my friend.
Hey Amber, I agree the NAR is dangerous. However, Christians need to be careful with Justin Peters as well. He's part of a dangerous cult called Calvinism. Calvinism denies Jesus' atonement for sin, preach a false Jesus who didn't die for everyone's sin, and believe true salvation occurs outside of Christ. From his own website:, Justin writes: " There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. " This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@jedimasterham2 Oh wow! Thank you. I didn't realize that. I assumed he taught directly from the scriptures. I'm having a hard time finding someone on TH-cam who does😔
@@amberherring5565 It’s tough, because many channels on TH-cam are deceitful. This includes John MacArthur, John Piper, Paul Washer, Voddie, TreasureChrist, iThinkBiblicaly, and many others. They all preach a very false doctrine. 95% of what they teach is scriptural, but like Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, etc, they really do preach a false Jesus and doctrine. There’s a couple pastors I would suggest. Charles Lawson, Thomas Cucuzza, and Phil Stringer are a few names that you might want to check out.
@@amberherring5565 Same here. I only watch them now to share content about their core beliefs. Like Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, or any other cult, they say the same words we do, but at the core, they have a completely different gospel that is not in line with scripture. If you’re interested, I’ll leave a couple videos about their cult. It explains plainly why these are not Christian beliefs. th-cam.com/video/4VvypQwwRko/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/tQeT7gqi8xY/w-d-xo.html
He said something that happened to me I was saved in my bedroom and hearing a preacher on Facebook about the lost sheep and the way the world was heading I repented right there and he wasn’t a great preacher either but God used that for the good for me to be saved so praying for these students and people who need to test all things as the grow in Christ ! Amen great video
I'm only about 20 minutes in, so maybe this will be stated in the video. But just so I don't forget: Jon at Conversations That Matter also did an interview with two pastors that had been there. It was interesting. Jon is always balanced about things. I'm staying mostly away from the whole story. I haven't kept up lately and thought it had died down. It seems to have gotten bigger than the last time I heard about it. To be honest, I know next to zero about revival. It's always been a confusing topic for me. I don't really see it in Scripture, at least, in the way that revivals have been described to me. The only parallel I can think of is when the Book of the Law was found and Josiah pretty much "cleaned house." I think it's the 2 Kings 22 passage. There's another similar situation somewhere else, but I can't recall the specifics. What we call "revival" is something I've never seen. I just don't know what to make of it all. If something was happening where people were publicly repenting of and denouncing the "popular" sins of the day like the sexual deviancy rainbow and the racist "woke" trash, I'd be impressed and would believe God is doing something big!
@@timothyblack3322 If you're in America, you know exactly what it is, since it's been shoved down our throats since (at least) 2020, when the convicted violent felon, Floyd, OD'd in police custody. So don't play that innocent game with me. Is that clear?
While respecting Justin for his genuine teaching and sincerity in serving God, it is vital at this moment to visit Asbury and preach the word of God and use the opportunity given rather than sitting and discussing as to how true revivals should happen. It’s time for all of us to walk the walk that Jesus Christ wants us to rather than pointing fingers let us say to God ‘send me...’ and take the first step.
Justin and these guys are discerning ...we do not just "believe everything that comes along" we go by what God's Word has already said. 2 Timothy 3:16...All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness
This has been a well done breakdown of what we have been seeing there. Thanks to you gentlemen, I appreciate the straight forward way you presented this.
Thank you for your time in producing this. I came out of the Charismatic Movement in the 90’s so yes, I can say that music is the trigger for the emotions. I had to read Sinners In the Hands of and Angry God in hs and I am currently looking for a copy now.
I've found a number of book from Spurgeon to Torrey on YT, great reads. Aneko Press is it's name, you can even purchase the books. Everything from DL Moody to EM Bounds, just listen your heart away and be blessed; I was!
Justin Peters is part of a dangerous cult. From his own website: " There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. " This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@jedimasterham2 while I agree with you about the big flaws of calvinism and their predestination and OSAS (and i defended you in earlier comment) ... I wouldn't go so far as to say this is a dangerous cult. Every denomination has a measure of truth and some deceptions. With exception of catholic church, I think there is something biblical and positive from every denomination. Calvinists are great Scholars and dig into the word very well as do the Baptists. Unfortunately both don't allow the gifts and personal relationship with a God that STILL SPEAKS to us. So I want to encourage you to tone down your thinking of them. I truly hate FALSE teachers as you do... and there was a time I cast them all away. But I have found that is not so productive. So take the good things they offer and leave the rest.
I'm doing a graduate degree in music, and I think it's worth noting that the idea of music stirring the emotions and leading to "catharsis" was heartily believed by the Ancient Greeks. Certainly God can use music, but we have to be careful that we are centered on the preaching of the Word.
I agree it is a tool to use emotion to control the subject . Hence Hill Song . Heretic in nature
Let's not forget, God can and does use music for his glory, so can Satan, by a Worldly emotion that sweeps many along it's road.
Unfortunately, most reports replay Asbury using the contemporary music. They have clearly avoided Asbury's use of classic hymns. Asbury is too broad in their scope to just fall into contemporary only!
I’ve had a music ministry and still play at church sometimes and I completely agree with you. Sound doctrine is infinitely more important than music.
For that matter strive to have sound doctrine in the music as well.
@@MarkEvanWhite I too play in music ministry, (guitar) . I enjoy or prefer hymns, first. But there are other contemporary that passes theological muster; "In Christ Alone" "Mighty To Save" etc. But I have welled up in years plenty of times when singing the verse that contained words: "It is nailed to the cross and I bear it no more, it is well, it is well with my soul". Emotions are funny things. I refuse to dismiss it as evil. Knowing we are created in God's image. We musicians sometimes are in a precarious position, I don't always like certain songs, but I'll always play skillfully my very best. What else is there?
I'm a pretty fickle person emotionally. I experience many highs and lows, often in the same day. I used think that having an emotional high meant I was filled with the Holy Spirit, while I interpreted an emotional low as being abandoned or punished by God. I've since come to realize, as Scripture explains, that being filled with the Holy Spirit means to abide in Him and to live according to the truth from the moment I get up to the moment I go to bed, day in and day out, regardless of how I feel. Marathon church services don't really mean much in the greater scheme of things. "Revivals" in the sense of people spontaneously coming to Christ is great and all, but what really matters is that they go on to live a life that shows they were truly saved. Live a life of consistently trusting God and studying His word and you will truly be full of the Holy Spirit.
That is true
Same. I found that in Church. That my worship was emotional. Emotionalism. SOME Churches I have attended help create that state with music and twisting the word. God is helping me change. Hallelujah
Amen brother! I totally agree with you🙏
Amen, so true!! Basing anything on our emotions is foolishness. The bedrock gospel and God's promises are enough 💯
Well said.
Saved at 34 and still loving, honoring and praising the Lord at 88.
To God be the Glory and the work of The Holy Spirit.
Beautiful to hear! ❤
When were you baptized into Christ?
Justin Peters is part of a cult. From his own website:
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" There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. "
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This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@jedimasterham2 wouldn’t call him part of a cult even though I agree his views are unbiblical.
@@colepriceguitar1153 He is part of a cult called Calvinism. Calvinism perverts scripture and denies Jesus' atonement for sin, and it preaches a false Jesus who only died for an elite group. Worse is, they believe true salvation occurs outside of Christ.
This is not Christian whatsoever.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU - I am 70 years old and have been abandoned by my family and my former church for reporting abuse within leadership and for speaking out about the false teaching that this particular organization has promoted for decades - so thankful for the true, faithful men of God who are teaching and speaking about what IS truly biblically correct~
Christ indeed tells countless times that we will be rejected and hated for the truth. Remain steadfast in the Church. Yahweh will sustain you.
@@ejwoods2457 Amen to that!
You keep doing what is good always brother and look for a new church don't give up ,👌🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
You acted as a true child of our Father. It took courage and faith to do what you did, It is disappointing and hurtful how people reacted to you I am sorry for that you deserve better
❤
A true 'personal' revival doesn't have to take place at even a church. God can bring refreshment and revival in our personal walk with Him right in our homes. As a matter of fact God saved me, not in a church, but at my bedside on my knees in repentance at the age of thirty-five. The gospel wasn't being preached to me, but everything I ever heard of the gospel was brought to my mind and conscience. Most especially repentance.
Amen
Amen!!! Praise the Lord! ❤
My pastor went to the revival and on the 11th. He said he kept making excuses, but God told him he’d regret it in 10 years if he didn’t go. He used his missing the Super Bowl and driving three hours in the rain that day as an example of dying to self. I spent the last two weeks looking for a new church.
When I first was reading this I thought you were going to defend Asbury 😂! I hope God helps you find a solid church!
People who claim God speaks to them, make Him just like us.
Glad to hear you're practicing discernment and holding to Christ instead of remaining loyal to a person/church you're familiar with. Many wouldn't.
Proud of you Brother. 👍🙂
The Master's Seminary has a church finder if you're needing a place to start.
@@JN-xv9tl I can confirm. Tried a few, didn't seem biblical. Checked the website, went to a service and still going.
As soon as I heard Bethel hypnotic music RUNNN.
Yes, having been Mormon all my life I am wary of high emotional reactions. Turns out truth stands on its own.
Are you still a Mormon?
Maybe having BEEN means...past tense?
@@mrupholsteryman 🤣🤣🤣
Mormonism is not true.
@@trevortheclever1733 not going anymore. Loving going to a little Bible church.
Bless you 🙏 my brothers and sisters 🙏 in christ from the Highlands of Scotland
Thank you for keeping up with the current events and using the Bible as the authority of your knowledge for these subjects.
Yesss!!!! This is exactly what’s I’ve been thinking about the Asbury situation.
I am having to keep my thoughts and my discernment to myself among my church lady friends. They are so easily going along with the waves it shocks me 😮
People want experiences, yet God's word is available to them. Imagine the bible saying that if you hear them saying Jesus is there, don't go, we are gullible as humans. May God help us...
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I was a Pentecostal for many years, and part of a few so-called revivals in the past.
I have left the word of faith movement and I'm now in a biblical sound church.
This video has a great breakdown on what a true revival is from a theological perspective.
Great to hear these men of God talk about this topic🙏
I was in a nondenominational church for about 2 years after moving to a different province (NB, Canada). I had to leave because I wasn't being fed. It was a stagnant church that focused on bringing in new people, wouldn't talk about sin, emotional, worship concerts, lots of Hillsong, Bethel and Elevation. I left and am in a small country Baptist Church that is biblically sound.
Same here! 🙏🏼
praise God
I got saved by the Grace of God at 21, 25 now. I wouldn’t say I grew up in Christianity. But many times in my life before Christ, I went to church events like this. And every time I would go home and be back in my life of sin. I remember at 19-21, I was grieved with my shame and guilt. My girlfriend and I were in ministry, both self deceived. I did a sermon on God’s holiness and I saw the giant distance between God’s perfection and me. I was wrought with grief and I knew I was going to hell. My pastor and elders told me that grace covers me. I found out every Christian around me was living a life of habitual sin. I sat there and told my girlfriend that if this is true Christianity then Christianity isn’t true. Thankfully, we both left that church, went to a biblical church. I got saved, we broke up, eventually the lord brought her back, saved her last year. And we are planning on getting married lord willing. And now we understand what true Christianity is. We were in the hyper grace movement, now we are in a biblical church that preaches the word and pours into the body of believers.
With all that said, I can agree this movement will burn out people. That happened to me, thankfully God in his sovereignty decided to save me.
This is measured by Baptist doctrine.
) as I listen to,you guys speak if only you know how mUth yoU,have bored me ask yourselves are you the modern day pharasses?
Well I attended a church that had a similar revival. The pastor was extremely anointed. The revival was powerful as he continued to preach repentance. It is the first time I experienced many people rejoice at repentance. And lives changed. 23 years later I am still changes and we spread the good news of the gospel to others.
This channel would call it heresy and say its the devil
What does it mean to be "extremely anointed"? Does Paul use that language in the NT when he talks about Timothy, Barnabas, Apollos?
@@thegrigs777 Dead religion will do that...
the gospel has been absent from all I've listened to at Asbury, especially the speech which "launched" the event.
I used to believe that too. Then the Lord opened my eyes to the fact that we all have the same amount of anointing as children of God with the same Holy Spirit. I also used to say I was a WHOLE Bible believer. Then the Lord opened my eyes to the fact that almost everything I believed was taking Scripture out of context. It was all emotionalism and it was the music that kept me in it for so many years. I challenge you to go 2 months without contemporary Christian music but keep praying and stay in your Bible. See what the Lord does in your life. 🙏🏻
At age 70 and being a Christian for 50 years I am approaching this or any so called revival with deep decernment. Living through and being a part of the charismatic movement we often witnessed these things that led to many false conversions and churches becoming infected with false doctrines. Satan enjoys putting on a show but Jesus doesn't need that at all. True repentance will take place in the private and personal moments we have with God. True revival will begin first in the background during those private moments individuals have. Only our Lord can work out front but in the background.
I am age 70 and I totally agree. I like to think that Jesus is coming soon and if I have 15 more years that's gonna go very quickly and he's coming soon for me.
Yes Sir! Yes Sir!
@ada2step Amen. I thank God for your fair assessment of what is happening in Ashbury. Seems like the Reformed camp is hoping that this revival is a sham. I wonder how they would have reacted during the First Great Awakening
@@kevinevans8892 it seems like to me and reading all ur comments ur unable to accept the opinions and facts of others and you so desperately want Asbury to be a real revival. God doesn't work that way Sir. These men are actually giving you scripture to back up what they are saying. Go read about the Azusa revival or the revival in the Hebrides or the revival that happened in Pond Inlet and around those surrounding areas . True revival is always birthed in deep repentance, prayer and intercession. And I never read about any revival throughout history having meetings for certain age groups or homosexual people leading worship or services. You can't just take somethings from what's happening at Asbury and ignore others it doesn't work that way
Absolutely
At 65 years of age. And growing up in church, attending many different churches. I have seen many so called revivals. The thing that bothers me...is after those meetings. The growth does not follow. The people go back to the stagnant way of life. Years later they still have not grown in they're faith or love in God. Still committing the same sins, over and over. But still believing that Heaven will be they're home when they die. I gave my heart to God when I was 9 years old, in my bedroom...alone. Then from then grew in my faith in God. I have very little regret in my life, experienced falls, picked myself back up...asked God to forgive my sin. And moved forward away from that sin, to never do it again. That's real repentance, a faith in God that keeps you moving forward, growing, leaving sinful ways and actions behind. It does not stop at the alter, but moves forward...to a greater and greater love for God. Yes, some really do really repent in these meeting. And for that I'm very thankful but it hurts to see the many that got swept in by the emotions and never really repented. So sad.😢
5 aspect of counterfeit revival
Emotionalism starts it
Sensationalism sell it
Ecumenism defines it
Skepticism angers it
Pragmatism defends it
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No repentance
Proverbs 27:7
King James Version
7 The full soul loatheth an honeycomb; but to the hungry soul every bitter thing is sweet.
I don’t like that you use an odd number of isms, could you please add a 6th one.
@@Taushathetech did you change?
I'm very glad you covered this Justin. I did a short video too as even at my limited level of knowledge and understanding, even I saw issues here that needed to be addressed. Truth must prevail, and the Word of God must come first in such things. Bless you all
Justin Peters is part of a dangerous cult. From his own website:
" There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. "
This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@jedimasterham2 I'm thinking you just need to read your Bible. You really do.
@@TEXAS-SMITH The Catholics say the same thing when I tell them Jesus is the "rock." So I read it every day, but they -and now Calvinists- keep telling me the same thing. So I keep reading it.
I say with some certainty that reformed theology (ie. Calvinism and Arminianism) is a cult as much as Catholicism. Christians need to stop sitting on the fence about this.
@@TEXAS-SMITH NO... jedi is actually correct!!!
Calvininists believe in predestination meaning that God chose from the beginning who will be saved and nothing we do can change that. Ive heard calvinists teach that after they get saved they can live the way they want and are still saved. This is once saved always saved.
This is not true. Paul clearly teaches that while under grace we do not continue to sin. Our names can be blotted out of the Book of Life.
God knows the end from the beginning so he knows who will respond and who will turn away. That's not predestination but simply that the author knows the end of story.
We do not know. Which is why we evangelize.
We also have to live within God's laws to keep our heart tender towards him. If we were allowed to keep sinning because we once gave our life then our hearts would be hard.
Calvinists are excellent Bible teachers, like Peters, but they are NOT CORRECT in a few very important areas.
@jedimasterham2 it is scriptual. It runs through the whole Bible. Just read Paul's letters such as Romans. All you did was complain about something, you either proved error nor offered a valid alternative.
I sincerely appreciate your ministry and your gift of rightly dividing the word of God. It has been a blessing of growth to my faith since finding your ministry.
I know people don't like hearing this, but Justin Peters is part of a cult. From his own website:
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" There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. "
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This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@jedimasterham2 he believes in predestination...that's all.
@@peggykitting6036 Hi Peggy. In your opinion, what is predestination?
Of course, he’s a Calvinist, what more can you expect?
Rightly dividing? The church should be unified not divided
What a timely and discerning and helpful discussion ! Praise God.
Thank you so much brothers Justin, Josh, Scott and Matt for giving clarity and light to falsehood in this “revival” thing! Soli Deo Gloria.
We should be very careful with Justin Peters. He is part of a dangerous cult called Calvinism. Calvinism deny Jesus' atonement for sin, preach a false Jesus who didn't die for everyone's sin, and believe true salvation occurs outside of Christ. From his own website:, Justin writes:
" There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. "
This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@jedimasterham2 brother , I think you have made a very terrible mistake! Please do not write falsehood and lies about His faithful saint because vengeance belongs to The Lord and He is always faithful and true to His own. Hallelujah. If you are a true Christian, it is time that you confess your sins against God and truly repent and our ever Gracious Father will forgive you of your sins. Praise God.
@@faithlee5035 Amen! 👍
“Tell me what the world is saying today, and I’ll tell you what the church will be saying in seven years.”
- Francis Schaeffer
Hallelujah! The voices of solid biblical truth and reason. So thankful for you godly men. May God give discernment to countless others who are blinded by feelings and not grounded in the Word !
Thank you so much, Kim - blessings to you :)
@@JustinPetersMin I will be praying that you will experience revival too.
Hey Kim, be very careful with Justin Peters. He is part of a dangerous cult called Calvinism. Calvinist deny Jesus' atonement for sin, preach a false Jesus who didn't die for everyone's sin, and believe true salvation occurs outside of Christ. From his own website:, Justin writes:
" There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. "
This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@kevinevans8892 what do you mean by this, "experience revival too"? In the context of scripture what do you mean?
@@allaboutgrace2560 The context of the passage is on two fronts, 1. The Israelites as a nation coming out of captivity.
2. The foreshadowing to Christ and the ultimate reviving to life.
Now that we are alive in Christ and covered by His blood, can we be revived a second time? According to scripture no.
There are 4 heart states as shown in the parable of the sower and the seed.
Only one is good heart soil and never departs from the Lord. 2 heart states, although had the banner of christian, did falle away.
So revival is not biblical. You are already in Christ and growing or you are damned.
I so appreciate the clarification on this issue. Having faithful brothers using Gods word must always be how we discern these movements. God bless!
PRAY for the kids!!! PRAY that tbe LORD would keep dealing with their hearts and would PROTECT them from the Wolves. I got saved dureing the JESUS movement. Some of tbe people passing out materials like Bibles and Tracts were actually from "TheWay" and the LORD protected me. I ended up going to the DBC in Detroit, Mich and grew in discernment and strength with a Deep desire to witness to everyone who would listen. PRAY for these kids❤
Amen
Same here I also got saved during the Jesus movement and it's the best thing that's ever happened to me People said it wouldn't last and it wasn't real So glad I didn't listen to the naysayers 73 yrs old now and still serving the Lord. God inhabits the praises of his people. Some of my friends went on to being pastors. Thanks for sharing my precious sister in the Lord Blessings
@@Buck7567I’m one of your number too. It’s a balancing act. People believing everything, and those who oppose anything different.
Oh no don't get involved in The Way ministry. I was years ago and so glad that I stopped being involved.
Kathy Jones, the Whole Point of my statement was to say not everything was Right about the Jesus movement. There wete alot of CULTS springing up as a RESULT of Very BAD teaching!! I said that the LORD Protected me, which means I never got involved with them. But I did end up with a BIBLE. The DBC I ended up goung to was Detroit Bible College which later on became Tyndale Bible College. The sentence I said about growning in Discernment had to do wirh my relentless desire to be in GODS WORD in Study and Prayer. But just to say, there was evidence of Cults very much so all around me. But tjat doesnt mean I JOINED THEM😉
Discernment is so important! Thank you for speaking on this!
It’s really humorous when people that don’t believe in the baptism of the Holy Spirit talk about discernment since that’s where it starts 😂
@@tracy8508 all believers have the Holy Spirit indwelling them. There is nothing humorous about any of this.
@@tracy8508liar
What an absolutely outstanding discussion! I grew up as a Pentecostal, and used to pursue experiences. You are so right that this cannot be sustained. People do not grow spiritually by singing 24/7.
You’re right. I can’t imagine anywhere where singing 24/7 is normalized.
Oh wait… heaven?
@@Jack-er6wi your fallacy is so dumb
@@jorgegimeno7593 really? There’s literal verses about nonstop singing in heaven lol.
Oh big deal. They are singing 24/7 for a few weeks. It’s not supposed to be sustained. You are being negative.
@@Jack-er6wi where are those verses?
Thank you all so much! GOD Bless all of you for bringing Discernment 🙏 ❤ 🙌
2 Thess 2:3 - day of the Lord after antichrist sits in temple.
AC in temple is at midpoint -> day of Lord is after midpoint.
Rapture happens same time as day of Lord -> rapture is after midpoint.
Why does Justin say rapture is at beginning?
Why would any pastor say that?
@@MaximusAurelius1987 bad teaching...
@@BudManInChrist what’s wrong with it? There’s no symbolism so only parsing is necessary. What is incorrect?
@@MaximusAurelius1987 pre-trib rapture has to be taught. You are right about 2 Thess 2. But I’ll do you one better. When you compare 2 Thess 2:1 to 1 Thess 4:14-17 the connection is unmistakable. More so, Paul clearly puts 2 conditions before this event (The Lord’s coming and our being gathered unto Him). Those being the great Apostasy and the unveiling of the Antichrist. If this is so (and it is) then the rapture cannot be pre-trib.
@@BudManInChrist the rapture and day of the Lord happen at the same time. Day of the Lord happens after midpoint.
Thank you for addressing this subject. I was hoping more men who are faithful to the word of God would speak to this "revival".
Come, let us reason together. Great wisdom here, brothers. Thank you for making this video.
We are so thankful for you godly men, and appreciate the counsel.
When I was first aware of my need for a Savior, I really struggled with feelings, mysicism, etc. It was years before I finally understood it's about taking God at His Word.
Thanks for dealing with this.
Hey Tim, please be careful with Justin Peters. He is part of a dangerous cult. From his own website:
" There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. "
This is not Scriptural and it is antichristian.
@@jedimasterham2 Predestination and Free Will are only two of the many misunderstood contrast in Scripture but I will explain it in the simplest way I can so you can understand.
In the Scripture, there are many groups of people of GOD but are in fact only divided into two: Those who are "called," and those who are "chosen" (a.k.a. the Elects), hence what was written by Matthew in 22:14 as "Many are CALLED but only few are CHOSEN."
If you are "called," then you are only invited to come but you still have a "free will," to choose whether you want to accept HIS invitation or not; or either stay and leave HIS feast.
The "chosen," or "elected," by GOD, on the other hand, such as the Prophets, the Apostles, the Disciples are the only ones who are "predestined," by GOD to do specific tasks for HIM even before they were conceived in their mother's womb and that is even if they do not want to. These are the people that no matter what they do and however hard they try to escape the path GOD has "predestined," for them, they often find themselves being chased and pursued by GOD Himself even if they refuse, runaway and hide (as the Prophet Jonah).
Now...
Many Christians today tend to teach that "predestination," is applicable to everyone, but then, often find themselves on a dead end when faced by the question..."but how about those who end up doing all the wrongs and evil, did GOD planned that for them too? Isn't that not fair?" As if it is also GOD's plan to assign the greater majority to go to hell?
The general predestination doctrine has a dead end because it is not only flawed but is also false and erroneous. Predestination is only applicable to the Elects or those whom GOD has assigned and hand-picked to work for HIM to execute HIS Will. But as for the rest who are not chosen to work for HIM, you are called, but the freedom to choose (free will) to follow and obey HIM or not, is still up to you.
Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I set you apart and appointed you as a prophet to the nations."
Ctto: Ms Angela Atienza
@@jedimasterham2 He (Justin) is right. Either that or God is a liar when He says that the unsaved are dead in sin and cannot come to Him unless he is drawn ("helkuo" - *dragged*) by the Father.
So, there ya go. I take it you're a Pelagian?
Jedi why do you keep repeating yourself it's like we heard you the 1st time We're not gonna take your word for it I take scriptures word for it The Holy Bible
@@timbrown6599 No, I’m just a Bible believing Christian. If something isn’t scriptural, it needs to be pointed out.
Unfortunately, Justin Peters believes in a false gospel. There’s no way to sugarcoat this.
God Bless you all ! very Balanced helpful talk for those hungry souls to grow in the word of God! & we need to pray for the new converts , God to protect from infiltration of the wolfs & to lead them to the right Shepherds !!!!
I was at the ' Jesus Movement" back in the early 70's - I was 19. What's going on at this "Asbury revival" is exactly like it was for me back then. I never heard the word "repentance", speaking in tongues was "cool" and I really believed I was SO spiritual. I got "baptized" in the ocean in La Jolla, Ca and thought I was "on my way" as a "Christian". My "walk" was truly on the broad and not the narrow way because for the next 35 years I did things I cannot mention. Was I "saved"? NO!! No way! It wasn't until 2014, when I was literally brought to the end of myself, that I truly repented, turned from my sins, and put my faith and trust in Christ. The one thing that "followed" from the 70's was this "speaking in tongues" and being "charismatic" (Exactly the kinda stuff that happens at Bethel, etc)
It wasn't until I was checking out Christian content on TH-cam in 2017 that I began listening to these guys talking about "Strange Fire". I found out the "guys" were Todd Friel, John MacArthur, Justin Peters, and Phil Johnson. What was presented in that conference which originally aired in 2013, opened my eyes. I am so thankful to God for leading me OUT of the charismatic church and teaching me that "tongues" today is not Biblical. I walked away (mostly ran away!) from false teachers who are "wolves". I began reading and studying His amazing word every day! I found a Biblically based church, and truly know I am saved.... I belong to my loving Savior Jesus and am walking with Him on the "narrow" road every day.
@ "l o f" Consider that you in deed were saved as at the first experience and that it takes a lifetime of Sin to make one realize that God Almighty has been waiting on you to gain full knowledge of the meaning of Repentance
Jesus said l will never leave or forsake thee.
If you had stayed in the first calling you might have been unable to obtain the faith you Now Have. Luke. 7:47.l
Believe that verse speaks Truth about Loving God/Jesus. AMEN.
Agree!! I too remember the "Jesus Movement" of the 70's I'm getting old ha! It was anything BUT about Jesus Christ! in my experience from what I witnessed, others may have had different experiences.
@@nathanmiller6051
Fascinating. Is it possible that Chuck Smith, the founder, was a false profit?
@@barackthecomposer6642 haha well he predicted that the world would end in 1981
@@nathanmiller6051. Do you have the video or something you can pass on to us where he said it?
What a truth-filled, biblical revealing of what a true biblical revival is. Yes, God will use any means He chooses, but revival is of God and by God. We cannot command Him. Thank you, Justin, for taking the time you did on this and for sharing. God bless you all.
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Thanks to what I have learned over the last 5 years from YT discernment ministry channels and other internet podcasts I was able to assess Asbury before critiquing videos were posted. I praise God that I am able to do this now. I was in charismatic/pentacostal/WOF/prosperity churches for 10 years back in the 1990s and left just after the Toronto blessing arrived in Australia. Unfortunately back there there was not information available on the internet, I was married to a non Christian and friends were all in same churches. God was faithful and used the introduction of loud music to get me out.
Well done! I believe you all have set a standard, if not THE standard, for evaluating the Asbury event. I'm sure I speak for others who've had the same reservations, concerns, and questions as were raised in this video when I say thank you all for dealing with them. To hear that the proof of validity should have been repentance on the part of the school re: rejection of Scripture (female pastors, LGBT activity) spoke volumes. A move of God certainly would have addressed such obvious sins. Thank you for the work involved getting this one together. Much needed. I'll share this with our church.
Hey, please be very wary. Justin Peters is part of a dangerous cult called Calvinism. From his own website, he writes:
" There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. "
This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian.. It's a cult similar to Mormonism, SDA, JW, and Catholicism.
@@jedimasterham2 Appears the "Cult of Calvinism" had captured Paul 2,000 years ago, before Calvin existed.
"And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)"
@@butgod2480 Ephesians Chapter 2, the Holy Ghost Writing through Paul, well Stated in using those most wonderful Holy Scriptures Sir!
If I may add, but from a Source outside of the Bible:
"it is nickname to call it Calvinism, Calvinism is the Gospel, and nothing else" -Charles Spurgeon.
Indeed Brother, Calvinism is the Truth of Holy Writ, it is the Gospel correctly understood, correctly taught, and correctly explained, it is the Truth, it is no cult, it is merely...the Gospel.
Arminianism is to be rebuked whenever it crops its ugly Head, in the Hope that the Person dead in their Sins who holds to it is bought to Repentance and to Faith in the True Messiah, the True Christ Jesus.
For Arminianism is an invention of the Unregenerate Flesh ("We are all born Arminian" -George Whitefield, on why we need to be Born Again!) , it is a Lie of Rome, of Hell, and of the Devil, and is to be rebuked whenever seen, and well rebuked there with the Scriptures beloved Brother!
Love and Peace.
@@butgod2480 Amen, brother! 👍
Thank you Justin for putting this together, very wise input and discernment, The one thing needed today in the Church is spiritual Discernment, without it people will tossed too and fro just from emotionalism. Sound preaching and Sound Doctrine is the way to true conversion. God might like singing praises to Him but he requires and Loves Obedience.
Been waiting to hear JP's response to the Asbury event, and he doesn't disappoint. Discerning observations are made by him and his guests which they then logically support and explain Scripturally, historically, and experientially. They make (and explain) observations and go deeper than what has occurred to me. My appreciation for God's word and respect for these men's understanding was increased by hearing what is said here. This is the ministering of God's truth which could actually lead to legitimate revival.
People flying in from all over the world!!!! We want this revival SO BADLY!!!! Spread the love people!! Jesus can work anywhere......anytime!!! He can use a Donkey!!!!
God bless all who seek Revival. God love on all those who so want to help others to come to our sweet Lord Jesus. God bless each and every soul that moves toward what Jesus taught us. Holy Spirit lead us!!! We give thanks and we give honor to you dear Lord!!
Thank you Justin for what you do, I haven’t watched any of the revival just seen it posted on social media. I live close to a city in which a church hosted a drag queen event on the weekend with children involved. I can’t believe a church would host such an ungodly event.
... wowww.
Heretic church!
Wtf. That's....yuh.
Thank you Justin for putting this program on. My background is similar to Marc's. I attended Spring Arbor College and Marion College, both in the Wesley \Holines Movement in the 50's. These types of "Revivals" occurred in both colleges. Looking back ,they both lacked the growth of spiritual life as evidenced by the fruit of the spirit. It was spiritual dead end for many. God led me by His grace in 1969 to Grace Church in So Cal. John MacArthur was just beginning his ministry. It was a small church which was packed four times on Sunday and Wednesday night. I witnessed and experienced true revival as John taught verse by verse each time. A method I had never seen in "holiness" churchs in 30 years. Young people came with their Bibles and crowded around John listening to every word and even stopping him to ask questions. That was a true Biblical revival and has born much fruit over the years.
Thank you for sharing @marshallsmith8010
This age group has grown up on Bethel, Elevation, Maverick City, Hillsong music and NAR movement. This is what they know.
Turn the lights on, turn off the music and open God's preaching the gospel. Who would be left? Not this young crowd
In speaking of conversion God used the Mormon church to bring me to a knowledge of him but then I met a genuine Christian and his discipling me led me to Christ. Also dr. Jay Vernon McGee and through the Bible have been foundational in my life to strength in me as a Christian. But it's always been the Bible that has truly done the work in me and of course the holy Spirit using the word.
I was in the Charismatic movement in the Catholic church , left with my Dad at age 16 and was non denominational until age 30 but then the prosperity gospel came in . I had some personal issues come in and became a Latter-day Saint at age 30 and now I am 60 . I did accept Jesus Christ as my Savior at age 16 at a charismatic home meeting that was run by a Pastor and his wife.
Yes, it's so helpful, encouraging and eye opening to us who've watched, God blessss you brothers🙏🙏🙏
Thank you so much for your words. They were about what I was thinking.
Thank you so much for this video. This has been so hard because I live so close to this small town. I have witnessed so much hypocrisy & unfriendliness from so many. I pray that this does change this cold, self righteous town. I hope this doesn’t come off mean but sometimes hurt from so called Christians hurt the deepest. Thanks again!
Where the most darkness is, God works the most!
The worst hurt I've ever suffered was from other Christians, so-called. It is the deepest betrayal!
You guys are masters of hearsay. Your criticisms are trite. Do you make no attempt to interact with credible sources because you sense that you can't hold a candle to them? Call the college. You make yourselves appear ignorant before those who actually know what is going on.
The entrance of thy word gives life,it gives understanding unto the simple. When a person is in the word,the will learn about God's character...and themselves in the light of the truth. Not an emotion which can change so much in a days time.
i feel you, worst hypocrites ever are mostly christians. terrible people!
I have watch many videos about Asbury. This is the best one. It is very clear and sound. It covered many topics. I have been interested in apologetics for about 4 yrs and this event has given me a chance to compare and contrast what is biblical. I agree completely that words can mean different things to different groups. Especially the buzz words: Holy Spirit, gospel, repentance, Jesus, etc. For example: confusing confession with repentance or the gospel being Jesus loves you (which is not the gospel). Great job guys! The truth is so transforming for our hearts.
Does my heart good to see young men such as yourselves standing on the Word of God to critique this event. God's blessings on you and your families.
Thank you so much for this video ! the whole family absolutely agree with what said !
Great Video its good to have these Pastors contribution about the Asbury so called revival. Thank you Pastor Justin Peters.
To God be the glory i just love the way you put things in prospective because people are to know the truth and sad enough many people don't and they are deceive by what they see and what they hear without discerning and so many are falling for what is false true revival comes from true repentance and true repentance comes from only by the word of God thank you Pastor Justin and your team for sharing this Biblical teachings now we have been warned we must be careful
Ever since I heard of this revival I felt very disconnected to it and have not gotten caught up in the craze. Kinda kept it at arms length amidst the continued news about it.
Not saying I’m right, but the Holy Spirit has not impressed upon me to give this any attention or focus.
I appreciate this video!
I pray that hearts and lives are changed by the Father. Time will
Tell.
A lot of my family watches flash point and victory channel and they are using this revival as proof that "the great revival" is coming. I didn't pay much attention to it. One revival is not a great revival that will save America. My church is about to do a revival here in a few weeks. It's the first one I've been too at that church. The church secretary and maintenance guy is part of the family that watches flash point and victory channel. I don't think my pastor does. I just hope it is a true revival and not a flash point/ victory channel revival. I'm nervous.
I want to also thank you all, for talking about this. Making my heart very greatful for men like you all teaching the truth of the bible. This has been a blessing to me...God's blessings on you all.
What a refreshing conversation about this. Thank you gentlemen for all the points yall discussed.
We are so fortunate to have you and anyone else in the Reformed Community to lead us to truth because as we all know, the Reformed brethren ALWAYS have the answers and their Theology is without flaw. ( We won't quibble over their teaching of Predestination or Cessationism)
The high sheriff of Christianity has spoken. There is no need to question anything here!
"The arrogance of making experience into a theology that trumps Scripture is exceeded only by the arrogance of making lack of experience into a theology that trumps Scripture."
Good day Gentlemen!
I am SO GLAD that I took the time to listen to this teaching!!! From the start I was very hesitant to call this a true ‘revival’…this has backed up all the questions that I have had in that it just didn’t seem to line up with God’s word. Thank you gentlemen!
Justin Peters is part of a dangerous cult. From his own website:
" There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. "
This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian.. It's a cult.
@Jeremiah RICE perhaps he just copied it from the website word for word so it could not portray reformed belief, in this context, more exactly
@@jedimasterham2 none sought God, none are good, we love God because He loved us first, many are called few chosen.
God calls you, you didn't seek Him first.
God is the one who gives a measure of faith not you.
@@usernametaken6659 Read scripture. God draws everyone. John 12:32 reads that Jesus “draws all people to Himself.”
God “desires everyone to be saved, and come to knowledge of the truth.” (1 Timothy 2:4)
@@jedimasterham2 hence why I said many are called, few chosen.
I followed and listened closely to the Asbury meetings and saw the Word preached regularly, Scripture readings, testimonies, worship, students coming to the altar - it was a very simple and genuine expression by the students, of love of the Lord Jesus, prayer, conviction and repentance - The Holy Spirit was at work - it was "aborted" by leadership and infrastructure/logistics which were expressed by the Asbury president on the 23 Feb- it was a planned closure which to me does not give the Holy Spirit the ability to continue to move freely - That saddened me - I do believe we will see the fruit of the Spirit by many students Many people came to Asbury because many churches are not "feeding" its flock- the sheep are hungry and thirsty for the true inerrant Living Word - the true Gospel! The true Gospel overrides all denominations and ideologies -Jesus Christ is our Model and Deliverer of all our sins and inequities. No compromise! Total Surrender and dying to our sinful nature - The Scripture is clear on this!
True revival will NEVER be a dog and pony show, but an outworking of faith, hope and love, first towards Jesus Christ and then towards others. I didn't see anyone emptying their pockets to give to the poor.
Great podcast…….Thank You and God Bless You All……❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻
I was already a believer when I visited Brownsville in Pensacola during the height of their revival back in 1996. I observed a lot of people getting swept up in the emotion of the service, there was a sermon but from what I recall, very little scripture. The focus was on the alter call which came after about two hours of ever increasing emotional worship. People were falling down, shaking uncontrollably, crying and yelling. There was a lot of talk about the great work God was doing through their church and how God would change your life if you accepted Christ. One of the staff there told me I would wake up the next morning feeling different. I didn’t.
I attended this event a bunch of times. I rededicated my life their and it had a huge impact on my life. Looking back it was alot of emotion but the evangelist preached the true gospel. I think he was a fan of Finney so it makes since he would try to bring people to a decision. However, I learned a bunch of NAR like teaching as my visits her spanned over the years. I had to unlearn a bunch of doctrine.
Jesus still heals thru pray today for sure! I was healed of an abscess in my abdomen, caused by a ruptured appendix, in one day, because I prayed for healing all night, in Jesus Name and the next day it was completely gone! It was Jesus through faith that healed me! I would have died without him! Do you not believe that the Lord still does miraculous healings today? Is it your view that the Holy Spirit no longer has the power to heal?
No altar calls in scripture
Absolutely a great talk. A useful guideline.
I believe you men are correct on this. True Revival ,people will know. They just will. People's lives will change from thier sinful ways, and it will spread all over. Revivals are not just about music. It is a true preaching of The Gosple of Jesus and turning from our sins.
Absolutely!right on point!
@@Taushathetech wow, what you shared got me teary eyed because it was during the start of the pandemic that I began to use u tube and found many sound teachers and pastors that I had never heard of before. I used to attend a WOF Prosperity church some years back, changed churches due to moving and still had a WOF mindset. The new church helped and then listening to sound pastors like Justin Peters, etc. call heresy out. I did not know that it was okay to do it. I was overwhelmed by trying to understand sound truth verses false teaching. God was moving me out of false doctrines. I threw books away. I finally told a family member and it was not accepted too well but I am praying for them. Now, I am open to another eschatology teaching. Heard a teaching that I am really being shown that some may be deceived. God will help His own understand. God bless you! 🙏
Justin
You lose all credibility when you put on a unidentified man purporting to a Asbury University student talking about homosexuality. You should not put hearsay on your site. Sloppy work for so called Hersey hunter
It don't mean a graduate degree in anything. It's you heart.. repentance means change of mind and actions. Hermeneutics is interpretation of biblical scripture..
I love that Justin Peters makes simple, and obvious, yet profound points like "unplug the keyboard and the revival stops".
Zach, you mean:"unplug the piano," the first week was just one person playing the piano/organ" singing older traditional hymns.
anything that makes the empty church parking lots overflow, and people crowd outside the windows, and the skeptical public gets interested is not to be discounted lightly. Why is it that the ones in the pulpits are always the most skeptical??
They should be ecstatic that there is not one seat vacant, and people are trying to get in. Im sure these skeptical leaders are like the ones who chastised the woman in the crowd just trying to get to Jesus to touch his garment in faith.
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The keyboard that the Jesus jams on runs not on earthly Electricity!
Revival can still happen Accapella, just hearts that want to worship a Holy God and even in the quietness of ones own room, the Presence of God will come. He finds those who earnestly SEEK Him.
@@BertGraef your response leads me to believe you didn't watch the video.
Thank you for all the clarifications . I am very impressed by the knowledge of your fellow contributors
Thank you for your discernment-it is so lacking in the local church today. Lighthouse trails has dedicated their whole ministry to
enlighten people as to the things that are entering the church today!
I threw out all the CDs and DVDs Of Hillsong, and other charismatic music as well recently and thank you for bringing out this video it is making things more clearer for me
Nothing wrong with the old hymns.
Too bad you’ve been duped by cessationists that fight against the spirit at every turn.
was nothing wrong with Darléne Chzech ..
@@danielabatabogdanov8586 she's a lost devil who needs to repent
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I truly appreciate you doing these videos!! I began listening to you and John MacArthur after an experience I had at a local church I was going to. My husband and daughter and I just moved from NY to SC and I was baptized in NY. I was looking for a church desperately that preaches the Word of God. We began to attend this one church out here in SC and they were having a ‘Revival Night’ and what I experienced left me confused. Not about what I believed but about what I was seeing in the pastor and the congregation. I immediately began to pray for the pastor and the congregation… that the Lord would open their eyes and ears and heart to the truth of His word. There were also things that were done in the church in NY that left me uncomfortable and that eventually I began to practice and do as well. But in reading and studying scripture it was obvious the contradictions. So after that ‘Revival Night’ I began to look on TH-cam… i know that shouldn’t be my first source… but I was looking for a pastor that aligned with the Word that I could listen to bc I just cant find one here. It is heartbreaking… i just want to know Gods Word and teach my children and live in obedience to my Father. I dont want these ‘experiences’… I just want to sit with fellow believers and soak up the amazing Word of God! I just cant find that so I look to pastors online. And so I came across your channel and John MacArthur and a few others and I am so very grateful for how clear and concise you both make Gods Word. I am truly able to see the difference from where I was in the understanding of Gods Word to now. I am so grateful that I can see and discern properly… with a sound mind… able to use my mind and not test things by how i feel or with my mind disengaged anymore. I cannot thank you enough! 🙏🏼❤️
2 Thess 2:3 - day of the Lord after antichrist sits in temple.
AC in temple is at midpoint -> day of Lord is after midpoint.
Rapture happens same time as day of Lord -> rapture is after midpoint.
Why does Justin say rapture is at beginning?
Why does John MacArthur say that?
@@MaximusAurelius1987 Mr Peter's is dealing with a damnable false revival and your talking about eschatology!? What...
@@davidyingling4873 33 + 2000 - 7 = 2026. Pretty soon we’ll all be dealing with it.
@@MaximusAurelius1987 Eschatology is not a salvific issue. Your viewpoint is wrong but that is besides the point!
Be careful with people like MacArthur and Justin Peters. both are part of a dangerous cult. From his own website:
" There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. "
This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
Thanks again, JP! I've been waiting for your take on Asbury and it's spot on as usual.
Me too!
Wondered the same.
Yeah we all knew he would come out of the woodwork to fight west the Holy Spirit is doing.
Living a Holy life is obedience to the word of God..............thank you for this teaching.......May God bless all of you........
Thank you I have explained to my wife that this was an emotional fueled event not revival. Thanks for someone who is respected in theology for addressing this
So glad it was of help, Brandon - blessings to you and your wife, brother.
Your a blessing in my walk with the Lord thank you for all you do
I was skeptical from the moment I began hearing about it. The more I hear about it the more skeptical I’ve gotten. I’m not questioning the sincerity of the people that were there, but I’m still not convinced this is an actual revival.
Not to mention that when I hear the names Furtick and White as people who were supposed to be there, my alarm bells go off immediately.
Same here. After Kanye West, God was not going to let me make that mistake again.
Not to mention Rick Waren as well, along with another prominent NAR preacher were called on to speak at Asbury
It's almost like these new believers are being placed in the garden. Maybe there are 2 trees to choose from at this revival, also. One is TRUTH, and the other is "good AND evil" mixed. Trees with bad fruit will always produce like kind. I wish only the tree of life was at Asbury, but it is more likely both trees are there. You are right, we will have to wait to see if ANY good fruit is produced.
Neither Stephen Furtick nor James White was invited to or did attend any of these meetings. Todd Bentley was prevented from participating in any activities or meetings. No "NAR" preachers "were called on to speak at Asbury." Nor was Rick Warren or Kanye West. Thank you.
I’m guessing you’re referring to a different James White than the one from Alpha and Omega ministries? I can’t see him and Steven Furtick speaking at the same location.
Having been a Christian missionary for many years and I am a result the Jesus movement of the 70's. That was probably the greatest Christian revival or Holy Spirit movement in the U.S. I first received the Gospel as a teenager at a Billy Graham Crusade in 1976. There are emotion as well as God's Word involved in Christian ministry, period. There must be people who are moved by the Spirit of God as well as the Word of God that brings repentance and true salvation. Let us not forget the importance of biblical discipleship that must be a part of any movement. God's people must teach biblical obedience for new believers to know and do what God wants.
Very balanced perspective. I am thankful for men like Justin and Josh Buice that give a Biblical analysis of things like this.
So much biblical insight and wisdom. Thank you all so much for taking the time to properly interpret God’s Word in light of discernment for this event. There were so many nuggets of truth addressed in this video as well, thank you!
Hi Chee, please bee careful with Justin Peters. He is part of a dangerous cult. From his own website:
" There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. "
This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@jedimasterham2 you've answered the same thing many times on here to other people.
If you are so against Justin Peters, why are you here?
@@amandaturner8928 Hi Amanda. I'm not against him. I'm warning people about the false doctrine and false Christ in Calvinism and Arminianism. Justin Peters is a staunch Calvinist, and he believes in things that are blatantly unscriptural and antichristian.
People need to be aware of this. Ephesians 5:11 instructs us to "expose works of darkness" like Calvinism. Many of us are doing just that.
What do you know of Calvinism? In particular, do you know what they think about salvation?
I’m so glad there’s someone here speaking the truth!
God bless you Justin. I’m trying to raise my 4 year old to be as bold as you in Jesus. Thank you
I pray that god lights a fire in your sons heart
Great video! This sheds Biblically discerning light on this event. That the initial sermon that set off the 'revival' wasn't overtly heretical BUT did not present the complete gospel emphasizing repentance says a lot. Having also watched a fair bit of the livestream video of the event this analysis seems very accurate. Much greater discernment is badly needed among the professing church.
I was waiting for a post from you on this thank you brother!
I actually was also! I even went to his channel a few times since all this started.
God is good all the time . He knows who is a true believer who listens to his still voice.He is theWay The Truth and the Life. Thank you Jesus for saving my soul on the Cross and dying for my sins. I give you all the Glory.❤🙏
Glory to God for using you and the godly men on your panel to expound on and share biblical truths regarding this movement. Was waiting to hear your take on this. And byGod's metcy and grace, I wasn't disappointed.
We know that there is nothing God can't do, but He works through His words.
Romans 10:17 KJV - So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
I pray that the children of God who are a part of this, will prayerfully stay in His words for out of it flows the issues of life. His words are true.
Thank you brother Peter's for an awesome and very informative video. May God bless you and Kathy.
I have been there and have the T-Shirt. A little different perspective on the slaying in the spirit... as a new Christian I went to one of Benny Hinn's early meetings. I knew nothing of what to expect, during a hymn singing he was walking down the aisles, no one was holding hands, I had my eyes closed with hands raised up singing. I don't remember what he spoke, but it was not the insanity he got into later and he never touched us; however, I went down as did everyone else in the row. It was a supernatural power. Now I know it was demonic. At the time it felt wonderful. This is why many will not believe it is bad.
Appreciate this discusion. I agree with your observations. I had been also wondering why are people traveling and wanting to be there, when we are warned in scripture not to run to places where they are claiming that Jesus is at.
Very good point 👍
Exactly!
I live in the Netherlands. Saw the Ashbury thing and waited, because somehow it did not taste good, but could not put my finger on it. I missed preaching the Word and it felt like Hara Krishna people repeating over and over again the lyrics. Also the students did not sleep much during this thing. And that is something odd too.
Because in certain sects they also let the people not sleep or nearly sleep. It makes a person very vulnerable and then you can influance a person better.
That ìs very well done, ideal seeing the event in view of The Holy Scripture .May my thanks to the Living God who preserve such brothers for a time as this!
Tq again Ps. I watched to the end so as not to miss anything! But as I was listening, it occurred to me my own maturity n discernment comes not at the beginning as I was attending Benny Hin’s, large n crowded meeting. Only later we started to realised the true teachings!
So I feel these youths are seekers n looking for God n His holiness n we just hope n pray, as u n the other godly men, that they’d be led to true worship, holiness of God! I’m sure, He’s waiting!🙏❤️
this was incredibly helpful and enjoyable, thank you brothers. grace and peace to you all!
I have seen this exact thing at a church in toronto ontario and it was big! People from all over went to this church to experience the same revival. I saw people acting totally crazy and even singing secular music while still pretending to be worshipping God. The singers were dressed like the woke people do and it is just not what God describes in His Word.
What does woke mean?
@@joshuazsmith25 N&J may mean something different from the definition I got from "got questions": Woke is a fairly modern term that has come to mean "conscious of injustice in society."
@@joshuazsmith25 Now that you have heard it you won't unhear it. I was trying to find out about "woke" maybe a month ago. Now it's in everything, everywhere.
How very sad!! I understand about discernment, but for real! All of you pounced on this like a vulture picking apart and dissecting it until there was nothing left of it! Would you rather there be a gay pride parade? Maybe another drag queen event?! Tear apart the "so called revival", as you call it, but I'm sure there were genuine conversions happening!
Thank you guys so much for being faithful to the Word and the Church. You are doing us all a great service.
62 year old Christian ✝️ and I will leave what is happening with people there up to GOD. Being hopeful it is acceptable to GOD 🙏
Thank you. I have learned through the years to not listen to people I'm not sure about first. I'm sure I get Gods word when I listen to your teaching.
You mean you get PART of God’s word.
Thank you, Justin and friends. I am a 70 yr old Vermont native and we rarely pay much attention to outpourings of emotions here unless, of course, we find ourself standing between a bull and his lady ... in the dark. I suppose that's when an emotional reaction could be considered pretty "real". As for revivals, I have heard of them coming and going but they all seem to run their course like a wave that crashes on shore leaving nothing but a mess of disillusionment and debris; only to be cleaned up later. They never quite seem to reach the shores of Vermont. I see a lot of emotional people praying and seeking God's embrace and I'm happy about that. I think that's a good thing. But it seems like in no time at all, that someone out of nowhere feels the need to take charge, make everyone hold hands and does nothing but get in God's way. Leave them alone. Let them pray. "Real" is what really matters and revivals quickly become a sham if they aren't attended by the kind of fear, hopelessness and dread that overtakes a humble seeking heart when is allowed to approach God and His "God-ness". If this revival is "real", nothing would matter to anyone except getting right with God. The most healthy fear of God that I ever felt in my life came upon me as I realized that I had been presuming upon Him for a very long time. I was either a "make-believer" or I was a "fake-believer". As a Baptist Minister's kid, we learn early how to put on our spiritual hat in public while cultivating a sinful life in secret. But then came a day when everything changed. It was sudden and it was very real. I was alone in my safe place where nobody could see me yet I was suddenly convicted of my hypocrisy and I felt drenched with shame. The Holy Spirit convicted me for thinking that my service and my prayers and my presence in Sunday morning worship was a blessing to Him and I was doing Him a favor by serving Him. That was on February 10th, in 1989. I will never forget it as I suddenly realized that there was no place to hide. I was suddenly visited by God and He meant business. He wasn't going anywhere and I couldn't get away. We were One on one and it was a very hot feeling place to be. This lasted well over four years as I lived and functioned every day in dark silence and sorrow. I learned in that darkened schoolroom that God was God and I was nothing. I realized that I was definitely not the gift to HIm that I thought I was as a youth leader, deacon, elder, teacher, discipler and secret sinner. For a long time, my wife had a fourth child on her hand as I was spiritually broken in pieces. I know that she wondered if I would ever come out of it and I wondered why she didn't just up and leave me. I was very broken and very scary unstable. I knew that I was totally at His mercy and unless God responded to the honesty of my brokenness and contrition with His Grace, I was damned forever and no amount of emotions and tears would sway Him. He knew my heart better than I did. Getting right with God meant "everything!" and staying right with God was all that mattered to me. I totally repented of every sin I knew of. I may have even gone too far in making up a few but I think God liked that. My revival was real because I was desperate to get right with Him and nothing got in my way. I knew that I had to go to people that I had taken advantage of and ask forgiveness for things I had done 20 years before. I went to others who I had held bitterness toward and I asked forgiveness for that too. I didn't stop until "every" sinful act and thought was confessed and that I had followed through with everything God wanted me to do.
Well, this event is sending a lot of signals for sure but one that I continue to wait for is to hear confessions of sin and testimonies of humiliation and brokenness and expressions of desperate longing and hunger for righteousness before God, not the professors, so called ministers or any man .. or woman. I wait for somebody, anybody to stand up and affirm that God's Word must not be tampered with. What He said thousands of years ago remains just as true today. Now that would make me sit up and take notice because then I would erupt in praise, knowing that we have a revival on our hands that is "real". So far, I am disappointed as there seems to be more of an interest in impressing the media rather than seeking God. It feels more to me like our annual county fair with different booths and side shows. I really do hope I'm wrong about that and I would rejoice to admit it should there be even a slight shift toward acknowledging God's absolute authority as written to us in His Word. Sadly, I mostly hear attempts to excuse sin while endless songs and music drown out any chance of hearing God's truth. In a real revival God actually blesses the sin-saturated soul with His terrifying Holiness. Yes, I meant that. When God blesses us with conviction we are only a step away from the comfort of forgiveness and reconciliation. If that ever happened it seems to me that drums, cymbals and guitars would dare not to make a sound or offer a peep of feedback as God takes center stage and shares it with nobody. I will keep watching and keep looking for expressions of brokenness over sin and defiance over the authority of God's Word. I hope to see the kind of revival that would compel the penitent sinner to give up everything for the privilege to dwell in the presence of His fellowship and to feel His comforting embrace. I still await for just one speaker who will stand up and dare to shout "Stop it!" to the "show" and then present God as Holy and high and lifted up; so high and so holy and so lifted up that the only emotional response that could be trusted would be a cry (perhaps even a shriek) coming from the depths of sin-saturated souls that suddenly awaken to their own condemnation. Like Isaiah, the holy prophet who exclaimed when he had his holy encounter with God, "Woe is me, for I am ruined!" - The rest is history as God used him in a mighty way. I truly pray that something "real" will come out of this and that the world will not look back in a couple of years and mock the event as nothing but a show.
Thank you 🙏
Yes, thank you for the real story of God's dealing in truth with you. I pray with you for God's will be done and protection over this move.
Even in the Old Testament revivals came and left Isaiah 30:13 says this " In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength, but you would have none of it."..."yet the LORD longs to be gracious to you; He rises to show compassion." Our God is faithful and always extends the opportunity to come into His Presence, but it takes a hunger and thirst in us to keep the incense burning. It takes a person such as a Jeremiah whose message never changed, but like the LORD many times said the people were stiff necked and stubborn people. I think it's us who have to change our ways of showing faithfulness to God. Don't you think that true revival will be a messy event as God deals with the reality of SIN in our lives and often true brokenness comes with some emotionalism. God understands and sees it differently perhaps than we do, as I find that even in myself to much emotionalism makes me uncomfortable, but that's me not God. Remember in the Old Testament often they resorted to sack cloth and ashes and the taring of ones cloths. I guess we would be uncomfortable with that form also. I pray that God may be God and draw us and change us. God Bless
Might want to condense your comments.
Have been and am in brokenness I totally relate to your post. The Lord put me into Jeremiah chapter 2 for quite some time then Jeremiah chapter 3. And now win the word daily again after backsliding and at last laying down alcohol. Bless you for your post
This revival reminds me of the Jesus Movement of the ‘70s. Lots of fervor, lots of emotions, lots and lots of people responding to the altar calls where they all received a copy of the good News Bible. This calls to mind Mark 4:3-8. It’s difficult to maintain that level of emotion when the revival is over and people go back to their regular lives.
Justin I have trained in martial arts All Eastern religious chant The same thing over and over Doing this can lead to disengaging your mind Then emotions take over and u can be lead to doing things That u can accomplish the thing u want This is dangerous GOD wants everything engaged Especially our mind so we won't be lead away from GOD'S GOOD NEWS
I believe that a mark of someone who is truly saved is discernment. When you are living in accordance to the word, it is easier to spot counterfeit doctrine and false teachings and therefore able to stay grounded. God bless, my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus!
W0W!! Very Nice,..
Thank You Justin For This Awesome
Video..God Bless All Of You..✝️ ❤️
Thanks Justin. Great video. I was healed, but my husband said that it was a gift from God not the charismatic preacher who was yelling at me. I am still healed, but no limbs grew back. I very much enjoy your teachings. The NAR is a slippery slope. They do get emotions running high. Jesus should be enough for us. Reading your Bible is also very important. It was harder to fool me once I was reading daily. God bless. Keep the videos coming my friend.
Hey Amber, I agree the NAR is dangerous. However, Christians need to be careful with Justin Peters as well. He's part of a dangerous cult called Calvinism. Calvinism denies Jesus' atonement for sin, preach a false Jesus who didn't die for everyone's sin, and believe true salvation occurs outside of Christ. From his own website:, Justin writes:
" There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. "
This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@jedimasterham2 Oh wow! Thank you. I didn't realize that. I assumed he taught directly from the scriptures. I'm having a hard time finding someone on TH-cam who does😔
@@amberherring5565 It’s tough, because many channels on TH-cam are deceitful. This includes John MacArthur, John Piper, Paul Washer, Voddie, TreasureChrist, iThinkBiblicaly, and many others. They all preach a very false doctrine. 95% of what they teach is scriptural, but like Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, etc, they really do preach a false Jesus and doctrine.
There’s a couple pastors I would suggest. Charles Lawson, Thomas Cucuzza, and Phil Stringer are a few names that you might want to check out.
@@jedimasterham2 Thanks so much! I think I have watched all of the ones you said not to...goodness:(
@@amberherring5565 Same here. I only watch them now to share content about their core beliefs. Like Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, or any other cult, they say the same words we do, but at the core, they have a completely different gospel that is not in line with scripture.
If you’re interested, I’ll leave a couple videos about their cult. It explains plainly why these are not Christian beliefs.
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He said something that happened to me I was saved in my bedroom and hearing a preacher on Facebook about the lost sheep and the way the world was heading I repented right there and he wasn’t a great preacher either but God used that for the good for me to be saved so praying for these students and people who need to test all things as the grow in Christ ! Amen great video
I'm only about 20 minutes in, so maybe this will be stated in the video. But just so I don't forget:
Jon at Conversations That Matter also did an interview with two pastors that had been there. It was interesting. Jon is always balanced about things. I'm staying mostly away from the whole story. I haven't kept up lately and thought it had died down. It seems to have gotten bigger than the last time I heard about it. To be honest, I know next to zero about revival. It's always been a confusing topic for me. I don't really see it in Scripture, at least, in the way that revivals have been described to me. The only parallel I can think of is when the Book of the Law was found and Josiah pretty much "cleaned house." I think it's the 2 Kings 22 passage. There's another similar situation somewhere else, but I can't recall the specifics. What we call "revival" is something I've never seen. I just don't know what to make of it all. If something was happening where people were publicly repenting of and denouncing the "popular" sins of the day like the sexual deviancy rainbow and the racist "woke" trash, I'd be impressed and would believe God is doing something big!
This exactly how I feel, I want to see the ABC of salvation admit, believe and confess
Another example was the repentance of people in Nineveh when Jonah preached.
What does woke mean to you? How do you apply it’s meaning to racist? And then “trash”?
Ah, yes!
@@timothyblack3322 If you're in America, you know exactly what it is, since it's been shoved down our throats since (at least) 2020, when the convicted violent felon, Floyd, OD'd in police custody. So don't play that innocent game with me. Is that clear?
While respecting Justin for his genuine teaching and sincerity in serving God, it is vital at this moment to visit Asbury and preach the word of God and use the opportunity given rather than sitting and discussing as to how true revivals should happen. It’s time for all of us to walk the walk that Jesus Christ wants us to rather than pointing fingers let us say to God ‘send me...’ and take the first step.
Justin and these guys are discerning ...we do not just "believe everything that comes along" we go by what God's Word has already said. 2 Timothy 3:16...All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness
This has been a well done breakdown of what we have been seeing there. Thanks to you gentlemen, I appreciate the straight forward way you presented this.
Thank you for your time in producing this. I came out of the Charismatic Movement in the 90’s so yes, I can say that music is the trigger for the emotions. I had to read Sinners In the Hands of and Angry God in hs and I am currently looking for a copy now.
I just ordered Edwards’ sermon in a book on Amazon and are vids on YT. Good stuff!
I've found a number of book from Spurgeon to Torrey on YT, great reads. Aneko Press is it's name, you can even purchase the books. Everything from DL Moody to EM Bounds, just listen your heart away and be blessed; I was!
Justin Peters is part of a dangerous cult. From his own website:
" There is no 'decision' we can make for Christ. We cannot 'accept' Him unless we are first quickened by His Spirit. God has predestined, or elected, those whom He wishes to save. God has given to the Son an elect group of people as a love gift. "
This is not Scriptural nor is it Christian..
@@jedimasterham2 Can you please provide a link to this quote, please? Thank you.
@@jedimasterham2 while I agree with you about the big flaws of calvinism and their predestination and OSAS (and i defended you in earlier comment) ... I wouldn't go so far as to say this is a dangerous cult.
Every denomination has a measure of truth and some deceptions. With exception of catholic church, I think there is something biblical and positive from every denomination. Calvinists are great Scholars and dig into the word very well as do the Baptists. Unfortunately both don't allow the gifts and personal relationship with a God that STILL SPEAKS to us.
So I want to encourage you to tone down your thinking of them. I truly hate FALSE teachers as you do... and there was a time I cast them all away. But I have found that is not so productive. So take the good things they offer and leave the rest.