Remember when I started Thaiboxing coming from a Taekwondo background. The hands were difficult to adjust (trained at a boxing gym also to learn), but the kicks were easy to adjust to Muay Thai. Taekwondo kicks aren't totally worthless - you learn speed, variation and timing.
Right but u must have that timing that sped and that IQ taekwondo don't work for fighters Thant stick to ground and go for po we and timing rather than speed. And for those people also that brag about learning taekwondo but when they fight they look like fukin stuck in the mud
@@koan7144 no, the low kick was dealt with a long time ago, then WTF became olympic and everyone stopped teaching people what jumping switch kicks were for and how to use them to check kicks and return fire.
Started with TKD here. The kicks and even the low kicks came very naturally but the hands took me a while to adjust to. I still have a few bad defensive habits but its always getting better.
Oh no, unfortunately I am the Taekwondo style fighter :( But at least I am going to know What to pay antenttion on ;) Thanks for the video, amazing as always
@@neocloudmarts9613 I’m a did taekwondo for 8 years and I’m a blackbelt in 20 now but I’ve been training for k1 for about a year and I although I implement some taekwondo kicks I definitely keep my hands up hahahah and use Dutch style and Thai techniques. To be honest the best style is to have your own style, Bruce lee philosophy
@@radhinblitzahmed I train at home with a heavybag. Amar area te kono boxing or mma gym nai bro 😓 Ami mainly bodybuilding kori ar daily shokale 6 rounds 5mnts kore heavybag training kori. Where do you train?
Historically Kickboxing is derived from Karate with more boxing/punching combos and defence added. To say face punch Karate is kickboxing is a misnomer because they move more in a linear way in a bladed stance with hit and move one or two punches then a kick. Whereas Full Contact/ American kickboxing is like Karate with boxing hands and strategic evasive footwork.
I do karate and we learn almost exactly the same thing to counter opponents. Except for the immediate low kicks we tend to chamber first and then make the opponent guess if we’re going for a low, body or head kick
one of the way to counter the spinning back kick is the side step to an overhand, sometimes it is just like the sheer power of the backkick is so intimidating that many inexperienced people like myself choose to step away from it, instead of jamming right into it and land a counter. A great example is an ONE championship match where Martin Nguyen KOed Eduard Folayang with a side step overhand while Folayang, a Sanda specialist, was in a middle of his spinning back kick.
I am a middle red black In WTF TKD and am going to study Goju ryu after I get the black belt. ITF TKD is hard to find plus it’s traditional taekwondo. I am 34 and plane to do mma any tips and advice.
You forget 1 thing, space ..... in the ring or cage. In the cage the TKD/Karate fighter have so much more advanced over the muay thai fighter. There is not much space in the ring and TKD/Karate isn't good for close range combat like muay thai
@@mykulpierce all of the choices you just gave can be pretty much nullified by pressureing forward as soon as they decide to do anything but reseting distance as most offensive answers from the back legged positions can be nullified by pressuring closer or pushing them. and i say this as a former tkd practitioner. this is the trick i used to dominate most of my opponents. usually stuffing their foot as they lift it and then skipping from there into a sidekick as they have to reset or reposition their front foot for a follow up and i have my leg already lifted and pointing their direction. sure, if someone uses proper form for chambering their leg, this becomes incredibely hard to pull off, but most don't use such perfect form during a fight/sparring
@@mynameismynameis666 Oh I see what you mean. I thought up meant just coming forward. For sure it going to favor who gets that side kick into position first to stuff the others front leg! I'm sure you have seen this countless times. Are you still competing? I'm ramping up for competitions to ramp up and also joined an MMA gym with a local pro to guide me. Looking forward to competing in both sports this year! If you don't mind me asking, how are Taekwondo events handled in your area? I recently found out how the US Team picks Taekwondo fighters for Olympic team is with a point system that's accumulated by placing in different events across the country. Then finding out the top points for the guy in my weight class is in the US Army athlete program, so he gets the government money to pay for travel and entry fees. Sheesh. Makes me kind of sad, because its a super expensive hobby compared to other combat sports in the US.
@@mykulpierce sorry i m an old dude, my experience comes from fighting a few tournaments 20 years ago and switching between tkd, kickoxing and mma at a time when neither financial nor social media infrastructure for the sports existed in my country, as of now, i m just training to age healthy and mean and i m lucky to be in a gym under and with people who train and compete on a professional international level.. i ve talked with US olympic tkdathletes and many of them - in my eyes - were army tools (at the time knee deep in the belief that Saddam was alquaeda and had WMDs... some time around the 2000s)...that being said: being a professional fighter where i live also depends heavily on being part of government/state funded programs, many of which involve military athletic programmes - and in turn sponsorships - and you have to be on the coaches good side of course or you won't pass the bottleneck. athletes are PR projection surfaces for nationalism. hard to get rid of that form of tribalism
What your forgetting is vital though !!!,where is the fight in a ring a octagon or open mat ????,also forgetting biggest part who are the fighters ????,raymond Daniels,wonderboy Thompson,Michael page are elite karate fighters you would need top kickboxers to challenge them !!,
@@GabrielVargaOfficial rematch against bazooka joe woulda went the same way, there’s learning to defend low kicks, then there’s defending bazooka joe low kicks
Good foot work, never being where the kick it's going to be till fighters start just kicking till it landed, killing good foot work for Raymond, like wise MVP in there losses.
How do you think those thick gloves affect the dynamics of everything you said? Wouldn't mma gloves make it a more fair fight for the kicking expert? He can get through your guard much more easily.
I come from a TKD & Shotokan Karate background When I transitioned to Muay Thai my trainer could tell I trained in something else from how I threw a roundhouse; I thought he was gonna correct me, but he said no that it would be harder for MT guys to read my technique. Made me feel good, and showed me a different mentality than old school martial arts: I was encouraged to use what works for me as a fighter, rather than being forced into a box where moves are only correct if performed "just so"
Speaking of Steven "Wonderboy", Thomson, you should hit him up for a crossover episode, seeing how he has his own channel and works with other martial arts TH-camrs like Icy Mike and Sensei Seth.
How cool is TH-cam, I got to ask a world champion kickboxer a question and got an awesome video. It was more than i expected, thank you it is appreciated. Your videos are pretty cool, man. Have a good day.
My experience (as coming from taekwondo) is that we have a hard time fighting against a solid stationary defence, and lots of low kicks. Most people run out of gas just because Taekwondo is a more cardio intensive style and we don't have low kicks. So just relax don't make mistakes and wait for them to tire out ;) hand game and defence in Taekwondo is really evolving because people have started to join kickboxing tournaments, which is super awesome, so thanks for that!
I've got a fight against a tkd fighter this Saturday, and have been doing research as I've never fought one. We're fighting in a kickboxing fight, I am a mma fighter who mainly utilizes kickboxing and Muay Thai. Everything in this video was the exact gameplan I had made prior to watching, my confidence is skyrocketing right now, so ready, great video thanks for the information!
Awesome. I wish I could get out more videos for you. Maybe when I crack 100,000 subs and I retire from competing I can make it a full time job. 1-2 videos everyday.
I think this video is twice as helpful for Taekwondo and karate fighters than for Muay fighters. You detail the exact skills "we" would need to defeat (leg kicks, kick catching, and clinching) in order to stay up with your style of kickboxing. Also you detail weaknesses most TKD and karate fighters show: not using hand combinations, not checking leg kicks, standing inside the kick range after side kicks. That's such a great opportunity to improve our approach to the game. Thanks!
My second Muay Thai fight was against a fighter who started out with Taekwondo.... from the off I could see him bouncing about and trying that downwards chopping kick which I did very well to avoid,, he did however almost knock me out with a fancy head kick but auld killer here grabbed him in the clinch when he noticed me floundering and tried bouncing in for a boxing combination.. I returned the favour with strong knees and he was saved by the bell... I just never gave him time or space to bounce about and almost knocked him out myself in the final round with heavy boxing... but I lost on points. I was 36 & he was 18😎😎😂😂😂
Well as a sport karate and Muay Thai fighter I know weaknesses and strengths of both martial arts,karate side stance footwork in and out counter fighting blitz sidekicks spinning kicks hook kicks and axe is there techniques,but being sweeped is the biggest weaknesses and if not trained in kickboxing leg kicks,and most them are shit with there hands so boxing massive,but works both ways Muay Thai/kickboxers have shit footwork take lot unnecessary damage slow and find that side stance in and out footwork big problems to solve at first
Loosing winning is integrated part of the sport What if he got his ass beaten he still has the most flashy , beautiful kos And is already considered one of the best striker in the world
I’m a TKD fighter who’s training for the 2022 AAU TKD season. I’m looking to mix things up and adopt a more Muay Thai approach to fighting, much like you laid out here. The hang up is many techniques in Muay Thai are not allowed at these tournaments (leg kicks, punches to the face, knee & elbows) as well as an abundance of protective gear (shin and forearm guards, chest guards, etc.). I’m determined to still make it work as it’ll be a lot of fun to go against the grain and challenge myself in such a way. This video gave me some great insights as to how I should adapt my training. If you have any additional tips or suggestions for my situation, I’d greatly appreciate them.
I did taekwondo for 8 years, went into mma and started doing kickboxing classes, was quick to find out that taekwondo rules (no punches to head or kicks to legs) were not in the slightest way practical and I got some fucking work to do
I study Tang Soo Do (similar to TKD but far less sport aspect) and I'm tall, so I learned boxing fundamentals specifically for this reason. Simple things like keeping your chin down, hands ups, replacing your hand punching hand with that shoulder, not telegraphing a punch, and head movement. Now, I'm beginning to study Muay Thai to add more elements to my bag of tricks.
As a former TKD fanatic and fighter I agree with all the errors you exploited in this vid. Every martial art has its weaknesses and it is on us to correct ourselves and find our own effective way to win our battles; not just in the ring but also in life. Thank you as always Gabriel for the amazing videos. Keep it up👏👏👏
Definitely know Haggarty. Great muay thai fighter. I wish I could drop the extra 10lbs to fight him. That would be a good matchup. But I will certainly cover him in the future.
Low kicks can be avoided, bypassed, blocked from side stance. Depends on how fast you can move your leading leg. You can kick away the low kick. You can make kick combinations. You can punch the leg/knee of the oponent. Huge advantage of side stance is that oponent can't reach effectively your liver. Punch the leg of the oponent in mid air. Block the kick with elbow.
Check out Bas Rutten's "Karate Combat". The truth is, Kick Boxing utilizes much more boxing, conditioning, sparring, (low kicks!) and is simply overwhelming in face to face clashes. Taekwondo and Karate are too d/refined by rules and unified training process for the kick boxing ring. In Taekwondo's defense, no kick boxer can stand a chance versus Taekwondo master under Taekwondo rules. I will gladly elaborate if anyone disagrees :)
hi gabriel can you make a video whether you should jump back and forth in kickboxing or rather walk… i often see the pressure fighters walk more and outside fighters jump a lot…
The very first thing you should try is is it goes Super Saiyan and and then you start busting the flow you're like kick punch block pose pose pose and then you start talking about anime and then you're like okay bro let's just leave who's ain't worth it let's not save the princess let's just go out for some sushi I'll show you my Chopstick skills
the advantage of being a former Taekwondo fighter is that i understand what they're trying to do. since I retired from taekwondo in 2008. I joim with synergy MMA n muaythai gym at seminyak Bali. it's a rough muaythai sparring session I had. cuz you know I was a jerk. In my mind I think I'm national taekwondo champion. it would be easy. no no no. a got paired with Travis an Aussie n he beat the shit out of me. I don't know what I have to do. I never train to slip, party OR block punches to the face. I never train to clinch and thrown knee. after the fight when I calmed I said to my self. man I'm suck at fighting. since than I know to be an effective fighters I have to learn many things. till now. yes I won some championship. but i don't compete long for I was already 30 something old when I join kick boxing and muaythai. not bad for an old guy I guess. n Travis thanks for holding back you could knock me out cold but you didn't.
Ey bro Ive been boxing For awhile now I wanna mix my boxing with karate but there is no Kyokushin in my country only JKA I just wonder if they have axe Kicks? Cause like I've been doing this kick and sparring with my friends they don't really expect it
Those type of videos made me think why Kichboxing/Muay Thai and Karate or Tae Kwon Do styles are different. Each has a strong point and weak point, but to combine them in one style does not make sense.
What's annoying is my friend who's kicks with tawewdo and Muay tai kicks then he has a Philly shell to complaint it he's 14 and very good at all of this but bad takedowns so thanks this video will help with his spinning kicks
I hate it when my sparring partner does the karate stance during Kickboxing sparring because I try to low kick him hard enough that he respects me and not hard enough so that I don't fuck up his leg.
Mostly it is about learning boxing and proper defense, like blocking as he showed in the video. Some things in karate and taekwondo can be useful, but I think you should be able to learn or relearn bad habits as bad guard and not tucking down your chin. And be more grounded in your stance to take impact.
It could. The low side kick has never really bothered me though. Keep your knee bent and you're safe. I don't think the damaged will add up like round kicks to the leg.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial true but it keeps them at range (some can really hunt). ''You think we are going low,'' then back kick to the body or round kick the head. It builds up to open the other fighter, its a longer range jab of kick. Just it can break ribs if you can time it right. The a to b is so fast compere to a lead leg round kick. I do like to mix up style if people fight a long range I stay close, same for short range fighters I stay at range. If they are a kicker I counter kick and out boxes them, same for fighters who like to boxes more out kick them at range open them up for a big shot. Sorry for essay. Good foot work always wins.
something is very annoying for me whenever i fight. I used to train in taekwondo (still do but not as intense as i used to) but now whenever i get in a fight, i just throw everything i learnt in taekwondo out the window and get into a boxers stance even though it isn't my style of fighting and it is so annoying but i want to get more into taekwondo stance
I trained karate for about 8 years and switched to muay thai/kickboxing for some of these reasons and more. To me the most thrown attack on the “street” is some kind of hook, and karate did not teach me how to defend against that. That was the biggest reason I wanted to switch
A really great video... pretty much sums up everything you need to know about how to increase your chances of beating a typical karate/taekwondo fighter. These tips are exactly the things I've found to work when I fight other karate fighters (if your karate style skills & theirs are about equal, just box or clinch). Not being able to train at the dojo last year forced me to learn what I could online. Videos like the ones on this channel have really helped me improve my kickboxing skill (just because you practice karate doesn't mean you have to bad at kickboxing & in some ways your kickboxing can help you in karate/taekwondo as well).
Nicely put. I like to think the same way. Just because I'm a kickboxer doesn't mean I should disregard techniques from karate, taekwondo or muay thai. There's plenty of things I could incorporate from all styles.
Don't let Gilbert Burns see this! Unfortunate loss for DJ last night, ONE championships flyweight is 135 pounds, do you think that weight is just too heavy for him, or could a younger Johnson have got it done?
I think years of feeling safe from knee strikes when grounded did him in. He wasn't winning before but it was only the knee strike that really hurt him. The commentators were talking about a punch but I think that missed.
Honestly. I wish traditional martial arts would cleanse themselves of outdated teachings. I enjoy seeing different styles in the ring, but the reason you never see traditional styles often is because they are required to cross train or they can't even compete. Not knowing how to deal with hand combos in a thousand plus year old art is just silly. And if someone sends me a video with a teacher demonstrating on a student standing completely still for a hand combo i'm not even going to watch it.
What's up big varg! Oss! I'm a up and coming fighter and I'm asking you to please make a video of dos and donts of your cornermen.... Please because my brother is gonna make me fight him instead of the opponent 😂
Your tips makes sense as usual very good tips as a former instructor i agree with everything you said basically, but I wouldn't take the hurricane kick to the guard (double sided guard)if I could avoid that kick all together, if it's a hurricane crecent kick it's ok but if it's a hurricane round kick it's so much harder than a Thai high kick or a mawashi Geri type round kick and if they do it like me, connect with the shin you will still get rocked or kicked down..i have one video of it on my channel.and my last trainer in a club i was substitute helping instructor for the slow Learners i wasnt allowed to do that in sparring not Even in the dedicated sparring day's after I did it on The owner because he got really rocked and had to go and take five minutes on the bench and complained when he came back to the sparring (Lars Erik)and said we are supposed to go 70 percent but he can't really do it correctly.its not possible to because it's not the muscle strength The mechanics alone even when being kinda relaxed but doing it correctly can knock you out easily Even you have both gloves outside each other etc.its basically like blocking a Thai high kick with a MMA glove.,, you should instead shuffle forward so he's thigh connect instead of the instep or shin.. it's atleast triple the power of a Thai high kick..in featherweight it's maybe ok but not extra hw like me or WORSE.
Hi Gabriel, I am new to the sport of kickboxing and for some reason i started raising my knee up to check front kicks and side kicks, and it works for me. Is it bc I spar with other inexperienced amateurs like myself or is it a valid defense against front and side kicks to the body?
I lost a match to a Taekwondo guy...Taekwondo rules. Cldnt use leg kicks, knees, clinch, and no upper cuts!! His movement was excellent until I rushed him. And then when I landed the ref kept breaking it up. It was the most ridiculous one sided fight I’ve ever had. I think even if I had knocked him out I would’ve lost...judges were all Taekwondo!! Crazy.
Bias judges make things almost impossible to win. And then people tell you "just knock them out next time". My response: 🤔 Yeaaahhhh...it's not always that easy. And no uppercuts??? What?
Guy on the ring didn't react wise. He should have used a technique to push you away and then kept pressuring into that gap to widen it and break free. At least three attacks come to my mind right now for that, two kicks (push, not snap like he did) and one sidewards double punch (though never saw the last one actually used, but should work). [edit:] Here is the punch. I'd use it in that situation with a very tight guard, going much lower and faster into my knees and then explosively unfold forward-up with the power of my legs. Name is Hama Zuki. th-cam.com/video/yndJH4uJui4/w-d-xo.html
Hi Maggnet. Yeah,,, except 99% of competition karateka regurgitate & repeat the introductory kumite tactic. Mindlessly. Then when they realize they can't negotiate even the most basic karate tradition technicals... they morph into kickboxer's which they never learned the basics there either. Result... smash-cithy... on them.
You still need to practice timing. Watching a video won't make you good at it. Like it said, you need to train to instantly return kicks for kicks. And you can't think your way through it.
Remember when I started Thaiboxing coming from a Taekwondo background. The hands were difficult to adjust (trained at a boxing gym also to learn), but the kicks were easy to adjust to Muay Thai. Taekwondo kicks aren't totally worthless - you learn speed, variation and timing.
Right but u must have that timing that sped and that IQ taekwondo don't work for fighters Thant stick to ground and go for po we and timing rather than speed. And for those people also that brag about learning taekwondo but when they fight they look like fukin stuck in the mud
and then came the low kick :)
@@koan7144 no, the low kick was dealt with a long time ago, then WTF became olympic and everyone stopped teaching people what jumping switch kicks were for and how to use them to check kicks and return fire.
Started with TKD here. The kicks and even the low kicks came very naturally but the hands took me a while to adjust to. I still have a few bad defensive habits but its always getting better.
@@sakshamchoudhary9203 fight me instead
Oh no, unfortunately I am the Taekwondo style fighter :(
But at least I am going to know What to pay antenttion on ;) Thanks for the video, amazing as always
Remember their are Taekwondo background kick-boxer fighters who have hands up
@@neocloudmarts9613 I’m a did taekwondo for 8 years and I’m a blackbelt in 20 now but I’ve been training for k1 for about a year and I although I implement some taekwondo kicks I definitely keep my hands up hahahah and use Dutch style and Thai techniques. To be honest the best style is to have your own style, Bruce lee philosophy
same
@@Richardson_mma The rules of the competition dictates the style/ best strategy. It is called game theory.
Same here
As a karate guy I really loved this video, the advice goes both ways! This channel is a goldmine and you are an inspiration, thank you.
Exactly. Information can be easily flipped around and utilized the other way.
Thanks so much 🙏
This also helps us karate stylists to know what kickboxers are going to try to do to us. Osu! Thanks for the advice coach
Yep. It should help everyone. Karate guys just got to avoid everything I mentioned.
Just had my first fight and my opponent had a TKD background. These tips absolutely work!
Great to hear!
Getting tips from an elite pro like you is blessing. Love and respect from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
Same bro. Iam also from bangladesh
@@radhinblitzahmed good to know bro
@@RickSanchezc-xh3ky where do you train?
@@radhinblitzahmed I train at home with a heavybag. Amar area te kono boxing or mma gym nai bro 😓 Ami mainly bodybuilding kori ar daily shokale 6 rounds 5mnts kore heavybag training kori. Where do you train?
@@RickSanchezc-xh3ky sad, I train im Muhammad Asad boxing gym. Where do you live btw?
Historically Kickboxing is derived from Karate with more boxing/punching combos and defence added. To say face punch Karate is kickboxing is a misnomer because they move more in a linear way in a bladed stance with hit and move one or two punches then a kick. Whereas Full Contact/ American kickboxing is like Karate with boxing hands and strategic evasive footwork.
I do karate and we learn almost exactly the same thing to counter opponents. Except for the immediate low kicks we tend to chamber first and then make the opponent guess if we’re going for a low, body or head kick
Thank you
I love your videos man. Thank you for sharing these advices with us!
I appreciate that!
one of the way to counter the spinning back kick is the side step to an overhand, sometimes it is just like the sheer power of the backkick is so intimidating that many inexperienced people like myself choose to step away from it, instead of jamming right into it and land a counter. A great example is an ONE championship match where Martin Nguyen KOed Eduard Folayang with a side step overhand while Folayang, a Sanda specialist, was in a middle of his spinning back kick.
Nice videos. Keep it coming. :)
With your recent (Dec 2022) 2nd karate combat fight, you've just had your 2nd such fighter.
This was great 👍👏
I am a middle red black In WTF TKD and am going to study Goju ryu after I get the black belt. ITF TKD is hard to find plus it’s traditional taekwondo. I am 34 and plane to do mma any tips and advice.
You forget 1 thing, space ..... in the ring or cage. In the cage the TKD/Karate fighter have so much more advanced over the muay thai fighter. There is not much space in the ring and TKD/Karate isn't good for close range combat like muay thai
stuffing their front foot also forces them onto the back leg and provokes them into turning...
Or into a switch kick
Or jumping snap kick
Or
TkD guys are also no strangers to clinching to force reset of distance, so prepare to be wrapped up!
@@mykulpierce all of the choices you just gave can be pretty much nullified by pressureing forward as soon as they decide to do anything but reseting distance as most offensive answers from the back legged positions can be nullified by pressuring closer or pushing them. and i say this as a former tkd practitioner. this is the trick i used to dominate most of my opponents. usually stuffing their foot as they lift it and then skipping from there into a sidekick as they have to reset or reposition their front foot for a follow up and i have my leg already lifted and pointing their direction. sure, if someone uses proper form for chambering their leg, this becomes incredibely hard to pull off, but most don't use such perfect form during a fight/sparring
@@mynameismynameis666 Oh I see what you mean. I thought up meant just coming forward. For sure it going to favor who gets that side kick into position first to stuff the others front leg! I'm sure you have seen this countless times. Are you still competing? I'm ramping up for competitions to ramp up and also joined an MMA gym with a local pro to guide me. Looking forward to competing in both sports this year!
If you don't mind me asking, how are Taekwondo events handled in your area? I recently found out how the US Team picks Taekwondo fighters for Olympic team is with a point system that's accumulated by placing in different events across the country. Then finding out the top points for the guy in my weight class is in the US Army athlete program, so he gets the government money to pay for travel and entry fees. Sheesh. Makes me kind of sad, because its a super expensive hobby compared to other combat sports in the US.
@@mykulpierce sorry i m an old dude, my experience comes from fighting a few tournaments 20 years ago and switching between tkd, kickoxing and mma at a time when neither financial nor social media infrastructure for the sports existed in my country, as of now, i m just training to age healthy and mean and i m lucky to be in a gym under and with people who train and compete on a professional international level..
i ve talked with US olympic tkdathletes and many of them - in my eyes - were army tools (at the time knee deep in the belief that Saddam was alquaeda and had WMDs... some time around the 2000s)...that being said: being a professional fighter where i live also depends heavily on being part of government/state funded programs, many of which involve military athletic programmes - and in turn sponsorships - and you have to be on the coaches good side of course or you won't pass the bottleneck. athletes are PR projection surfaces for nationalism. hard to get rid of that form of tribalism
@@mynameismynameis666 That is incredibly insightful nonetheless! Thank you for sharing your experiences!
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Easier to just elbow the sidekick or knee the sidekick.. Keep going forward deny them room to throw their sidekick..
When will u make gloves giveaway again?is it possible someone from Indonesia win it?thank you :-D
I'll probably do another around May and I will send them anywhere in the world.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial thank you sir,really appreciate it,God bless
No offense but no one survives turning back kick
try to beat Wonderboy or machida brothers first 😂
Everybody's got a plan on how to beat Taekwondo and Karate fighters...
until they get stopped or KOed by their side kicks!😁
Everybody's got a plan on how to beat muay thai fighters with their side kicks
Until thay get chopped down with low kicks and roundhouse kick
What your forgetting is vital though !!!,where is the fight in a ring a octagon or open mat ????,also forgetting biggest part who are the fighters ????,raymond Daniels,wonderboy Thompson,Michael page are elite karate fighters you would need top kickboxers to challenge them !!,
That is actually legit crazy how far he made it without learning how to check low kicks. Just shows how dangerous his stand up can be
I was shocked when he told me that. A rematch would have been very interesting to me.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial rematch against bazooka joe woulda went the same way, there’s learning to defend low kicks, then there’s defending bazooka joe low kicks
Good foot work, never being where the kick it's going to be till fighters start just kicking till it landed, killing good foot work for Raymond, like wise MVP in there losses.
@@fpsneb7408 joe did not "just kick till it landed" nor has anyone else ever because that would just make you lose the fight bruh
How do you think those thick gloves affect the dynamics of everything you said? Wouldn't mma gloves make it a more fair fight for the kicking expert? He can get through your guard much more easily.
Cool to hear this from a high level fighter who himself started out with one of these styles.
I come from a TKD & Shotokan Karate background
When I transitioned to Muay Thai my trainer could tell I trained in something else from how I threw a roundhouse; I thought he was gonna correct me, but he said no that it would be harder for MT guys to read my technique.
Made me feel good, and showed me a different mentality than old school martial arts: I was encouraged to use what works for me as a fighter, rather than being forced into a box where moves are only correct if performed "just so"
Sounds like a good trainer 👍
Speaking of Steven "Wonderboy", Thomson, you should hit him up for a crossover episode, seeing how he has his own channel and works with other martial arts TH-camrs like Icy Mike and Sensei Seth.
those guys are a gorgeous trio
@@stanclark3992 They, uh, run martial art studios and have been doing and teaching martial arts for quite some time.
@@thejapanarchocommunist Ho Japan, Arco, Commie. P.S. I know sev hair dressers who run 'studios.' Don't get my haIR cut there though.😏
@@stanclark3992 Unless they're running McDojos, they're martial artists whether you want to accept it or not
@@stanclark3992 Lol ok
How cool is TH-cam, I got to ask a world champion kickboxer a question and got an awesome video. It was more than i expected, thank you it is appreciated. Your videos are pretty cool, man. Have a good day.
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for the request.
Thanks for throwing our kryptonyte out there 😂
Lol i think i feel bad in a good way
Mad respect to taekwando and karate fighters but I had a good laugh when you emphasized they had "NO GAME" in the clinch 😂
Crescent Kick.
@@FreebyrdFayelanx good way to get dumped on your ass tbh
I laughed too, but then I got sad because while I think it's decent to most, it's pretty bad to the Thai guys hahaha
My experience (as coming from taekwondo) is that we have a hard time fighting against a solid stationary defence, and lots of low kicks. Most people run out of gas just because Taekwondo is a more cardio intensive style and we don't have low kicks. So just relax don't make mistakes and wait for them to tire out ;) hand game and defence in Taekwondo is really evolving because people have started to join kickboxing tournaments, which is super awesome, so thanks for that!
When are you going to hook up with Stephen Wonderboy Thompson, Ramsey Dewey, Sensei Seth, and Icy Mike?
Hopefully once this pandemic is over I can travel down and do some filming with them. In person is so much better than remote collaborations.
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Patiently waiting.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial That would be super awesome!!!! :)
I've been preparing to beat the crap out of my friend and your high quality content is always appreciated. Good Man.
I've got a fight against a tkd fighter this Saturday, and have been doing research as I've never fought one. We're fighting in a kickboxing fight, I am a mma fighter who mainly utilizes kickboxing and Muay Thai. Everything in this video was the exact gameplan I had made prior to watching, my confidence is skyrocketing right now, so ready, great video thanks for the information!
This man never misses with the timing of his videos
Yeah Tbh it’s kinda spooky. Every time I have a new question he uploads that exact video.
Awesome. I wish I could get out more videos for you. Maybe when I crack 100,000 subs and I retire from competing I can make it a full time job. 1-2 videos everyday.
The most dangerous person is the one that listens, thinks and observes - Bruce Lee was probably referring to Varga
stop it
I think this video is twice as helpful for Taekwondo and karate fighters than for Muay fighters. You detail the exact skills "we" would need to defeat (leg kicks, kick catching, and clinching) in order to stay up with your style of kickboxing. Also you detail weaknesses most TKD and karate fighters show: not using hand combinations, not checking leg kicks, standing inside the kick range after side kicks.
That's such a great opportunity to improve our approach to the game. Thanks!
You only describe someone who practice Sport Taekwon-Do not real TKD.
Your channel is underrated
Joe Valtellini..one of my favorite kick fighters ... thank you so much for the video!! Saludos Gabriel desde Argentina
My second Muay Thai fight was against a fighter who started out with Taekwondo.... from the off I could see him bouncing about and trying that downwards chopping kick which I did very well to avoid,, he did however almost knock me out with a fancy head kick but auld killer here grabbed him in the clinch when he noticed me floundering and tried bouncing in for a boxing combination.. I returned the favour with strong knees and he was saved by the bell... I just never gave him time or space to bounce about and almost knocked him out myself in the final round with heavy boxing... but I lost on points. I was 36 & he was 18😎😎😂😂😂
Well as a sport karate and Muay Thai fighter I know weaknesses and strengths of both martial arts,karate side stance footwork in and out counter fighting blitz sidekicks spinning kicks hook kicks and axe is there techniques,but being sweeped is the biggest weaknesses and if not trained in kickboxing leg kicks,and most them are shit with there hands so boxing massive,but works both ways Muay Thai/kickboxers have shit footwork take lot unnecessary damage slow and find that side stance in and out footwork big problems to solve at first
Rayomand Daniels is like a cyclone ,
A very very inspiring person
thats why joe beat his ass
Loosing winning is integrated part of the sport
What if he got his ass beaten he still has the most flashy , beautiful kos
And is already considered one of the best striker in the world
@@RahulPatil-my3dw ye thats exactly why joe beat his ass
@@buckets3628 yah I agree
Raymond clearly fell into Joe 's deadlock , got cornered and didn't block those leg kicks
@@buckets3628 wow
Ya got a amazing mentor then
I’m a TKD fighter who’s training for the 2022 AAU TKD season. I’m looking to mix things up and adopt a more Muay Thai approach to fighting, much like you laid out here. The hang up is many techniques in Muay Thai are not allowed at these tournaments (leg kicks, punches to the face, knee & elbows) as well as an abundance of protective gear (shin and forearm guards, chest guards, etc.).
I’m determined to still make it work as it’ll be a lot of fun to go against the grain and challenge myself in such a way. This video gave me some great insights as to how I should adapt my training. If you have any additional tips or suggestions for my situation, I’d greatly appreciate them.
I did taekwondo for 8 years, went into mma and started doing kickboxing classes, was quick to find out that taekwondo rules (no punches to head or kicks to legs) were not in the slightest way practical and I got some fucking work to do
I study Tang Soo Do (similar to TKD but far less sport aspect) and I'm tall, so I learned boxing fundamentals specifically for this reason. Simple things like keeping your chin down, hands ups, replacing your hand punching hand with that shoulder, not telegraphing a punch, and head movement. Now, I'm beginning to study Muay Thai to add more elements to my bag of tricks.
Know yourself and know your enemy.
Sun Tzu
As a former TKD fanatic and fighter I agree with all the errors you exploited in this vid. Every martial art has its weaknesses and it is on us to correct ourselves and find our own effective way to win our battles; not just in the ring but also in life.
Thank you as always Gabriel for the amazing videos. Keep it up👏👏👏
Please do 5 things that make Jonathan Haggarty good check him out if you have not heard of him
Definitely know Haggarty. Great muay thai fighter. I wish I could drop the extra 10lbs to fight him. That would be a good matchup.
But I will certainly cover him in the future.
Thank you so much! My fight is today!!
Could you do a kickboxing shadow boxing routine? Focusing on defence? It would so useful thank-you👍🙏
You know i am primarly boxer and knowing how to defend against kicks is great for me. This channel really really helps me do that
Low kicks can be avoided, bypassed, blocked from side stance. Depends on how fast you can move your leading leg. You can kick away the low kick. You can make kick combinations. You can punch the leg/knee of the oponent. Huge advantage of side stance is that oponent can't reach effectively your liver. Punch the leg of the oponent in mid air. Block the kick with elbow.
Check out Bas Rutten's "Karate Combat". The truth is, Kick Boxing utilizes much more boxing, conditioning, sparring, (low kicks!) and is simply overwhelming in face to face clashes. Taekwondo and Karate are too d/refined by rules and unified training process for the kick boxing ring. In Taekwondo's defense, no kick boxer can stand a chance versus Taekwondo master under Taekwondo rules. I will gladly elaborate if anyone disagrees :)
hi gabriel can you make a video whether you should jump back and forth in kickboxing or rather walk… i often see the pressure fighters walk more and outside fighters jump a lot…
The very first thing you should try is is it goes Super Saiyan and and then you start busting the flow you're like kick punch block pose pose pose and then you start talking about anime and then you're like okay bro let's just leave who's ain't worth it let's not save the princess let's just go out for some sushi I'll show you my Chopstick skills
Would be great to have you break down Raymond Daniels' lost in Karate Combat, especially since he had height advantage
On the subject (loved it, even if I don't speak Italian):
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the advantage of being a former Taekwondo fighter is that i understand what they're trying to do. since I retired from taekwondo in 2008. I joim with synergy MMA n muaythai gym at seminyak Bali. it's a rough muaythai sparring session I had. cuz you know I was a jerk. In my mind I think I'm national taekwondo champion. it would be easy.
no no no. a got paired with Travis an Aussie n he beat the shit out of me. I don't know what I have to do. I never train to slip, party OR block punches to the face. I never train to clinch and thrown knee. after the fight when I calmed I said to my self. man I'm suck at fighting. since than I know to be an effective fighters I have to learn many things. till now. yes I won some championship. but i don't compete long for I was already 30 something old when I join kick boxing and muaythai. not bad for an old guy I guess. n Travis thanks for holding back you could knock me out cold but you didn't.
Great video......... I do Taekwon-do ITF and I really enjoined this video
Ey bro Ive been boxing For awhile now I wanna mix my boxing with karate but there is no Kyokushin in my country only JKA I just wonder if they have axe Kicks? Cause like I've been doing this kick and sparring with my friends they don't really expect it
My friend I training sports karate but is not very good only from healthy I like more kickboxing
Those type of videos made me think why Kichboxing/Muay Thai and Karate or Tae Kwon Do styles are different. Each has a strong point and weak point, but to combine them in one style does not make sense.
What's annoying is my friend who's kicks with tawewdo and Muay tai kicks then he has a Philly shell to complaint it he's 14 and very good at all of this but bad takedowns so thanks this video will help with his spinning kicks
I hate it when my sparring partner does the karate stance during Kickboxing sparring because I try to low kick him hard enough that he respects me and not hard enough so that I don't fuck up his leg.
Me, a Taekwondo blackbelt, Sweats nervously
How did karate get to be all about bouncing around? I remember taking karate and there wasn't any bouncing in the katas that we did
What ab if you're wearing mma gloves?
Could you also do a positives on Tkd and karate style in modern combat sports? Or maybe how to fight like this in combat sports?
Mostly it is about learning boxing and proper defense, like blocking as he showed in the video. Some things in karate and taekwondo can be useful, but I think you should be able to learn or relearn bad habits as bad guard and not tucking down your chin. And be more grounded in your stance to take impact.
@@dasmarkopo thanks but I want to hear his opinion
@@ermac4444 me too 😆
Study fighters like Stephen wonder boy Thompson, raymond Daniels , Michael venom page, Lyoto machida they are karate and taekwondo style fighters
any fighters like kickboxing or thai boxer can destroy side ways fighter if the fighter knows these techniques
The jumping in and out style is more common to tae kwan do. Karate syles like kyokushin dont jump in and out neither do they use so much side kick.
So Taekwondo isn't a form of Kickboxing?
The side kick goes to the low lead leg when you block with the elbows. . .
It could. The low side kick has never really bothered me though. Keep your knee bent and you're safe. I don't think the damaged will add up like round kicks to the leg.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial true but it keeps them at range (some can really hunt). ''You think we are going low,'' then back kick to the body or round kick the head. It builds up to open the other fighter, its a longer range jab of kick. Just it can break ribs if you can time it right. The a to b is so fast compere to a lead leg round kick. I do like to mix up style if people fight a long range I stay close, same for short range fighters I stay at range. If they are a kicker I counter kick and out boxes them, same for fighters who like to boxes more out kick them at range open them up for a big shot. Sorry for essay. Good foot work always wins.
So much can be said but look at *THE SPEED* .
something is very annoying for me whenever i fight. I used to train in taekwondo (still do but not as intense as i used to) but now whenever i get in a fight, i just throw everything i learnt in taekwondo out the window and get into a boxers stance even though it isn't my style of fighting and it is so annoying but i want to get more into taekwondo stance
As a Taekwondo guy, this is exactly how to beat us.
Now, about a year later, you're getting the W in Karate Combat!!
Who is watching this because yoo likes how to fight😂
I trained karate for about 8 years and switched to muay thai/kickboxing for some of these reasons and more. To me the most thrown attack on the “street” is some kind of hook, and karate did not teach me how to defend against that. That was the biggest reason I wanted to switch
A really great video... pretty much sums up everything you need to know about how to increase your chances of beating a typical karate/taekwondo fighter. These tips are exactly the things I've found to work when I fight other karate fighters (if your karate style skills & theirs are about equal, just box or clinch). Not being able to train at the dojo last year forced me to learn what I could online. Videos like the ones on this channel have really helped me improve my kickboxing skill (just because you practice karate doesn't mean you have to bad at kickboxing & in some ways your kickboxing can help you in karate/taekwondo as well).
Nicely put. I like to think the same way.
Just because I'm a kickboxer doesn't mean I should disregard techniques from karate, taekwondo or muay thai. There's plenty of things I could incorporate from all styles.
Don't let Gilbert Burns see this! Unfortunate loss for DJ last night, ONE championships flyweight is 135 pounds, do you think that weight is just too heavy for him, or could a younger Johnson have got it done?
I think years of feeling safe from knee strikes when grounded did him in.
He wasn't winning before but it was only the knee strike that really hurt him.
The commentators were talking about a punch but I think that missed.
i think i use leg kicks and calf kick because this kick makes taekwondo side ways stance out of balance
How to beat tkd/karate fighters?
Use the basics.
Wait he's not wearing a chicken mask
It's always fun to watch those flashy styles, but seeing a great MT fighter deal with it reminds you how poised the style is
Nobody tell Gilbert Burns about this
It would be fun to hear the advantages and disadvantages of each martial arts.
Check out some Bruce Lee books. Tao of JKD is one
Honestly. I wish traditional martial arts would cleanse themselves of outdated teachings. I enjoy seeing different styles in the ring, but the reason you never see traditional styles often is because they are required to cross train or they can't even compete. Not knowing how to deal with hand combos in a thousand plus year old art is just silly. And if someone sends me a video with a teacher demonstrating on a student standing completely still for a hand combo i'm not even going to watch it.
This video hits different after the Lyoto Machida/ Ryan Bader fight.
at least that guy you messed up kept his guard up a little lol
Dropping those gems as usual.Great work!
What's up big varg! Oss! I'm a up and coming fighter and I'm asking you to please make a video of dos and donts of your cornermen.... Please because my brother is gonna make me fight him instead of the opponent 😂
Haha. I'll see if I can get my brother to film a cornerman episode with me over the holidays.
Your tips makes sense as usual very good tips as a former instructor i agree with everything you said basically, but I wouldn't take the hurricane kick to the guard (double sided guard)if I could avoid that kick all together, if it's a hurricane crecent kick it's ok but if it's a hurricane round kick it's so much harder than a Thai high kick or a mawashi Geri type round kick and if they do it like me, connect with the shin you will still get rocked or kicked down..i have one video of it on my channel.and my last trainer in a club i was substitute helping instructor for the slow Learners i wasnt allowed to do that in sparring not Even in the dedicated sparring day's after I did it on The owner because he got really rocked and had to go and take five minutes on the bench and complained when he came back to the sparring (Lars Erik)and said we are supposed to go 70 percent but he can't really do it correctly.its not possible to because it's not the muscle strength The mechanics alone even when being kinda relaxed but doing it correctly can knock you out easily Even you have both gloves outside each other etc.its basically like blocking a Thai high kick with a MMA glove.,, you should instead shuffle forward so he's thigh connect instead of the instep or shin.. it's atleast triple the power of a Thai high kick..in featherweight it's maybe ok but not extra hw like me or WORSE.
Hi Gabriel, I am new to the sport of kickboxing and for some reason i started raising my knee up to check front kicks and side kicks, and it works for me. Is it bc I spar with other inexperienced amateurs like myself or is it a valid defense against front and side kicks to the body?
Very valid defence. Definitely keep using that.
I lost a match to a Taekwondo guy...Taekwondo rules. Cldnt use leg kicks, knees, clinch, and no upper cuts!! His movement was excellent until I rushed him. And then when I landed the ref kept breaking it up. It was the most ridiculous one sided fight I’ve ever had. I think even if I had knocked him out I would’ve lost...judges were all Taekwondo!! Crazy.
Bias judges make things almost impossible to win.
And then people tell you "just knock them out next time".
My response:
🤔 Yeaaahhhh...it's not always that easy.
And no uppercuts??? What?
Block the kick with you're feet
Guy on the ring didn't react wise. He should have used a technique to push you away and then kept pressuring into that gap to widen it and break free. At least three attacks come to my mind right now for that, two kicks (push, not snap like he did) and one sidewards double punch (though never saw the last one actually used, but should work).
[edit:] Here is the punch. I'd use it in that situation with a very tight guard, going much lower and faster into my knees and then explosively unfold forward-up with the power of my legs. Name is Hama Zuki.
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Hi Maggnet. Yeah,,, except 99% of competition karateka regurgitate & repeat the introductory kumite tactic. Mindlessly. Then when they realize they can't negotiate even the most basic karate tradition technicals... they morph into kickboxer's which they never learned the basics there either. Result... smash-cithy... on them.
It's time to teach that karate bully some lesson. Thank You Sensei..👍👍👍
You talking about Johnny Lawrence? Don't worry, he got humbled at the all valley.
You still need to practice timing. Watching a video won't make you good at it. Like it said, you need to train to instantly return kicks for kicks. And you can't think your way through it.
Boxing gloves all i need us
Drink 2 more beers