@@hugore293 dongles, dongles for our dongles! Dongles for our dongles dongles. I do actually like the idea of USB type c charging and ethernet ports combined so when you are laying in bed charging your phone you get your full 100megabit speeds or faster
@@MenacingPerson I can tell you’ve never been to India because if you have you would know that traffic in India is insane ant there’s nothing racist about it.
Me too! With OTG you can ascutally do it. If your manufacturer isn't shit and has driver support. But I've had it once. It was so fast… Tested on local file transfer and… It doesn't even compare. Wi-Fi? Shit. Wire? Fast.
Irwain Nornossa Yes, i tought on doing that, i have the usb ethernet card from a asus ux31a, but i didnt test it yet, i will probably fix my lighting setup first, then i will record that. But i have no idea if my moto g5 in android 7.1.1 will support that asus ethernet adapter, at least linux works with it out of the box.
DJFoxAtYT That wont work, unless you're going to share the phone's connection, if its able to do that, but then its not what i want. I want to acess the web using cables, even tho the comment itself was intended as a joke, it would be good to sit in my sofa, plug a cable and have a really stable connection.
@@percilenis8464 You can imagine it like this Your Router sending +1 at the same moment as the microwave sending -1 They colide mid air and boom 0 And zero ist lost Information
Microwaves use 800 W of power. Wifi uses 0.1 W. Even though the microwave is shielded (by the metal grid thing), if just 1% leaks out that's still 8W vs 0.1W
If a person is dumb I usually just say, because Wi-fi only has 4 letters and Ethernet has 8 letters. Person who ask the question: Ohhhhh, yea that makes sense. Thank you Me: Here to help
As a tech support agent for an ISP, the most simplest words I could describe to a person about WiFi and slow speeds, the more straws you add into a cola can how much are you really going to enjoy that cola for yourself. But if WiFi was formed into a person, let’s say I’d be in jail.
I sexually identify as a photon with 4.2 x 10^-9 electronvolts of energy and don't conform to your discriminatory preference of mass and inertia, or your general relativistic worldview. So shut the hell up and stop using me as a form of communication you disgusting conglomeration of massive particles!!! You can't even travel FASTER than me!
Bell Labs did do a good job AT&T didn't do as well recently as they didn't have to. Starlink and other satellite internet providers might be more expensive for slower speeds. The part that the Starlink can get over AT&T and Comcast is consistent speeds .... OR so the claim is.
just 1 thing: 0:56 Electrons do not move fast through a wire, but the signal speed is close to speed of light.... Actually electrons are very slow to move in the wire.
In a wire information (not electrons) travels (almost) at speed of light and in a fiber information travels slower than light in void and it the light doesn't move in straight line, it goes to one side of the fiber, reflects and goes to the opposite side and so on. So on long distances wire can give lower ping, but also lower transfer
Wi-Fi routers now use multiple antennas to avoid half duplex or be able to operate in two (3 sometimes) different frequencies. There is also a Mu-MIMO.
Wi-fi routers can have multiple antennas, and it is possible to get faster wireless connection thanks to them - but only if the client itself has got multiple wi-fi antennas inside it. Most of the time, though, that's not the case: 95% of handheld devices has got single antenna, quite a few laptops has got two of them, and only the premium priced laptops (Macbook, for example) can have three antennas for 3x3 MIMO Wi-Fi.
Do not confuse MU-MIMO (sending data to or recieving from several devices at once) to 3 - band ( behaving like 3 routers, tuned to those 3 frequencies).
Think of the cable connection like a train, and the wireless connection like a car. The cable connection follows the cable with very few interferences. The car on the other hand can start at the same spot, but it has to slow down either from traffic or whenever it gets to an interchange (in our case, other signals and internet routing). They will still both start and end their journeys at the same place, but they will take different paths in the middle.
I found that mentioning the speeds of EM waves, and the flow of electrons really interesting. I was also unaware of the terms half-duplex, and full duplex. It is interesting that there are people working on full duplex tech!
As an add-on, don't forget too that these days, wired networks are almost universally SWITCHED networks, meaning network switches interconnect devices. This means that Ethernet collisions are almost non-existent because each device gets a dedicated pipe, so there's even less latency involved because you almost never need to account for two devices taking turns sharing the same wire
Unless it's a switch connected to a switch then it's a "FREEWAY ENDS" then you get dumped into a 2 way 1 lane each way street from (generic terms) Freeway 85
Electrons move incredibly slowly in a wire. The drift speed is something like 1 mm every 5 seconds. They're just very tightly packed, so electrical impulses can move really quickly.
They don't actually move, they just create small electric fields around them that transmit the charge (saw this on that one vertitasium video, might be wrong but its something like that), but it still takes longer for the signal to reach its destination because the photons take longer paths.
When I download a big file, I take my laptop upstairs and plug it into the router with an Ethernet cable. It’s a night and day difference in speeds, I get 15mbps wireless and 40mbps wired.
During my job training as an programmer during a Network Class, I was asked how I would advertise fiber Ethernet compared to copper and my first guess was that there is less latency and I got told that is not good advertising. Technically this isn't wrong, because light travels at light speed and electrons in a cable are a bit slower and one reason is that they don't take a direct path but with cheaper optical fiber, this is also the case. The latency difference is very tiny on scales like an office building. Sure for the stock market, anything that's faster, is better. I have an other question that maybe might be a good video. When you rented an apartment and you prefer cable on everything, you might run into an issue. Laying down cables to every room is hard. You can't open the wall and hide it nicely. When you try to cross rooms, you need to make a hole in the wall. I mean it should look nice, should be permanent, until you decide to move out and remove everything. There is the office style with this ugly cable channels at about 1m height and big at. The home solution might be smaller cable channels on the bottom of your wall, Ethernet outlets that you screw on the wall, instead putting them on the wall and drilling holes in the wall, to pass cables through the wall. There is a slight issue. With more cables, the holes need to be bigger and also the cable channels. Just let imagine how many ports a single person might need in a 2 room apartment. In the bedroom there is your TV and you might get a TV in the future that supports smart TV. You also have a streaming device like a Steam Link for one of your consoles and a docking station for your Nintendo switch. A Ethernet cable for your Fire TV or similar is not nessesary, because your future smart TV might replace this. Also because you are oldschool, you have a stationary Telephon with VoIP. You also have a spare port for your laptop. That makes 5 Ports but because the outlets come in dual config and there are cables for 2 ports, we make it 6 for the bedroom. For the living room, it's similar. 1 for the TV, 2 for Consoles, 1 for WiFi, 1 for your PC, 2 for Smart Device Hubs, 2 for a Nas, 1 for an additional PC, 1 for your VoIP Phone and 1 for your Printer. That are 12 more Ports. That are 18 Ports. I didn't mentioned Cameras or additional TVs or Displays with a streaming device. Sure everyone has other needs. Some have less consoles and some more and switching cables is a pain. I mean when someone is willing to get a proper setup, it's not that hard. A small server cabinet is easy to buy and a switch fits there in and it's tidy when done properly. I mean you even can put a server into it. Sure you can extend things with a switch. For example is the TV area. When you have 3 Consoles and your TV there, you put a 5 Port Switch there and it's not slow, because you only use one at a time. Also I forgot to mention that you can use PoE for devices that support this. I mean other solutions might be better for renting. Powerlan is a nice solution, because you don't need to put a lot of cables. One big downside is that the bandwidth is not great. With Lan, you easily can go to 10G, even when a handful of devices uses this. Your internet speed won't get faster but accessing your Nas might be better. One better solution might be fiber. The cables are way more thinner and theoretically can transmit to more than one device with other colors. At least 3, using rgb. Sure you can't bend the cables on sharp corners. Sure for converting, the ports should do the work but that maybe need external power. I don't think that the energy over a normal Ethernet cable is enough. Splitting the signals can done without power with simple filters. For me that sounds like a solution that's might be on the market. Sure fiber is nothing new but you need a device that converts everything and most devices only supports plain Ethernet. There should be better techniques, especially for people that don't want to destroy a lot. Making a hole in the wall for passing cables is something I hate. You need a long enough drillbit and that big enough. I bought a drill bit that was long enough and tried it on concrete. The hole was not the problem but the connector didn't fit through. You can't make the hole bigger without a proper bit. With paper walls this is no problem. I mean maybe there is also a device that are better for the holes. Fitting 3 twin cables through the wall for 6 Ports is quite hard but even more is way harder. Also these cables are harder to bend.
If only this video was available when I was working tech support for an ISP. I would of told customers to watch this video so they can understand that wifi is not better than ethernet, and that wifi is not perfect.
I’m glad I helped out my dad with his internet problem by simply just plugging it an Ethernet cable to his desktop and configuring it to the desired settings. He needs it
I actually made a project which demonstrates the speed of wps (wireless) , Ethernet and plc(power line) and best speed tested was ETHERNET! Even plc was more faster than wireless. I made this mini project with reference to earlier similar video of techquickie!!!
silicon GAMER wps stands for WiFi protected setup. Ethernet will always be faster than power line because power line has to share a “tube” with electricity and internet
That is to be expected if you know anything about networking. WiFi should be a last resort or only for things that portability is more critical than bandwidth and performance.
WiFi technology is half duplex and basically works like an old ethernet hub that has been obsolete for decades. Ethernet uses layer 2 switching to send data to the correct MAC address of a device. This means there are virtually no collisions. It also enable full duplex transmission.
Electrons in the wire actually move slowly. It's the electron signal or the voltage changes caused by the moving electrons that travel near the speed of light.
@@meinlet5103 if you have a clear line of sight and a non moving object yes. But what's the point of having a wireless connection if you can't move and must have a clear view between the 2 devices?
Line of sight and the signal to noise ratio means it will never replace WiFi. It may find a market in remote sensors or controlling a smart home environments. Situations where not a lot of data needs to be sent and latency is not a major concern.
Ok, I'm gonna look this up but I do wish Linus mentioned the use of multiple antenna. I 'think' this should allow for full duplux along with multiples of speed with each antenna-> provided your device has said multiple antenna too (I guess that's prob the catch)
Hmmm also the signal has to be translated into the radio signal and then re-translated at the receiving end. Encoded/decoded whatever the term you want to use.
That's true of any protocol though. From DOCSIS for cable modems or Ethernet or ATM. All of them require your network info to be encoded, transmitted and then decoded on the other end.
froggyNotGreen yea the electrons merely generate a magnetic field due to the greater distance traveled than the protons in the copper structure, as a result of space stretching with respect to velocity
I have been using WIFI at home for so long that I forgot I had Ethernet cabling throughout the house. What I difference when I use Ethernet instead of WIFI. Working at home during COVID is going to be much less frustrating!
its simple really, whatever amazing wireless thing you manage to make, you can simply extend the antenna enough to physically reach its client-server, shield it, and thus become a cable, making everything better
What if we remove the antenna from both ends and connect the device and the router with a coaxial cable instead, will that be considered wired or wireless?
Your device can't understand analog. Modems translate analog signal to digital. Your router is simply used to spread that signal wired by ethernet cables as many have a built in switch to have like 4 or so ethernet cables coming from them, or wirelessly through wifi antenna.
thheonmnaisx Actually there are many pcs that accept analog data, such as sound, modem, etc. And what he probably said is that you would connect the router output with the wireless card input, basically both work with radio frequencies, so its theorically possible, but his wireless card would only see the router it is wired too. Don't forget that both the router and the wireless card transform digital data to analog and vice-versa. And tbh his comment* was a joke anyway....
Buying bf Thats what de wireless card does! You're forgeting that the router creates a radio signal and the wireless card transform that analog data into digital data, so conecting both with a coaxial cable should work unless the resistance of the cable damages the signal.
I hate to be that guy but the electrons themselves move quite slowly through a conducting wire. While your words at 0:50 are wrong, your message is still accurate. The *signal* travels through the wire at between 50-99% of the speed of light (according to wiki), so you're kinda forgiven. For anyone who is interested, which is probably nobody, if you have 15 amps passing through a 10 gauge copper wire, the electrons themselves are moving at around 0.21 millimeters per second. That's pretty slow. Has little bearing on the speed and latency of a connection though, so it isn't that important here. Another fact that nobody asked for is that "electricity" (meaning electrons) actually flow from the negative terminal to the positive terminal on a battery.
Makes so much sense to be fair, when i'm at home i use my ethernet for direct connection to my internet, for my other diviceis such as my mobile devices it is wifi or my mobile provider
It's not the electrons that are transmitting signal ; on a cable the electrons have an important oscillation movement but slow translation one, and do not travel in the whole cable at fast speed. The signal is carried by the variations of the electrical and magnetic field, which are both linked to the internal movement of electrons but are not carried by matter and go at almost the speed of light, depending on the material. (sry for bad english)
0:53 electrons move with a speed of a few meters per sec in the cable. What you are talking about is the signal speed in the cable. The signal moves with photons (em waves) just like in the wireless connection. Also, this speed (speed of em waves in metal or air) is not that important, it only affects a percentage of your ping. The bandwidth or mbps of the connection have 0 connection with the speed of the signal. In a wireless connection the higher your frequency the more data throughput. 5ghz wifi is in fact capable of double the speed of 2.4ghz when the connection is good. The higher the frequency gets its harder for the signal to penetrate walls or if you go high enough even paper. The wired connection is much more consistent and this is why it's preferable. In a wired connection you don't even have security issues between your device and the router.
How come you get faster internet speeds using mobile data (4G/LTE) compared to using home internet? I'd guess it's something to do with the mobile data having priority/direct access to the internet provider. Possibly fewer translation steps as well?
With my internet we have a mesh system and I had Ethernet that when my from my bottom floor to my top and when I use WiFi it is faster than Ethernet by like 150 MB/s
if you really want to get faster (and more stable) internet, then you just have to do it. there's no other way. going wired is the best option there is
It doesn't matter as much how fast electrons move, you can't modify that, but how much information is being sent per second *does* matter (the definition of bandwidth is how much information is being sent per second)
Have you guys ever done an episode on Arduino? Explain what it is, why there are different companies making the same board, how it compares to Raspberry Pi, that sort of thing. I know you did one on Raspberry Pi, but a full Arduino episode would be cool.
What about encryption for wifi signals? Ethernet packets don't need to be encrypted since they're directly connected to the device, while wifi packets have to be encrypted and decrypted as they leave and enter the device.
IEEE needs to allow more bands. This can be solved by having I/O on seperate bands but unfortunately we are limited to just 2.4 and 5. This means they would need to open up either 2 or 3 bands, 1 to connect with the other two to do I/O.
That wi-fi problem is here pretty bad in middle of forest. Speeds are someday better than other. Hell yeah what fun it is to play CSGO with that network, ping spiking and sometimes very high ping for couple of minutes
I heard of a thing that u plug into a wall, connect it to an ethernet cable, and then on the other side of the house you plug the second thing into the wall and connect a cable from there to PC, is that better?
Its like a direct pipeline delivering oil or something it's just turn the tap on and it's there wireless is like having a ship haveing to bring the oil to you it takes more time and is more valuable to things that will slow it down or get in the way
my neighborhood is fiber-to-the-house..which requires a different modem and also the boxes for pulling out the cable TV signal vs people that have coax running thru their neighboorhood....I tried explaining it to a friend back home but he didn't get it...can you make a video that explains how fiber-to-the-house for internet/"cable tv" is different than Coax-to-the-house, equipment used, uplink speed differences, why coax can sometimes have bandpass filters and how I could get "free SD cable" channels at my old house but now I don't have a choice but to pay (fiber)
Wireless around 30-45mbps Wired is exactly 100. Yea, its usually 30-50% less. Nothing changes that. Walls,distance, better device.. i tried a couple of stuff and still like that. Wireless is great only when i want to remove 1 cable from my table.
Pretty sure there are other factors than just the wireless for you there, just tested myself to the same router from my desktop wired 66.28/18.84 (6ping) vs my laptop wireless 64.33/19.17 (10ping). So really speed is NOT a major difference for wireless, the main problem with wireless is in consistency (or rather lack of it). Assuming a proper stable connection otherwise on the outside of your router to a destination, your wired connection will be within 1ms difference, where as a wireless could easily have something like a 10-15ms variance, how much exactly can vary a lot from wireless to wireless, based on distance, obstacles in the way, quality of equipment etc etc, but there will be some variance in a wireless always
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So what you saying us is.....we need an Ethernet port on our smartphones?
That's..........Genius!
Otg adapter xD
@@hugore293 dongles, dongles for our dongles! Dongles for our dongles dongles.
I do actually like the idea of USB type c charging and ethernet ports combined so when you are laying in bed charging your phone you get your full 100megabit speeds or faster
And will give you nice thicc phones.
I tried a USB typc C to Ethernet adapter on a smartphone and it works XD , much faster than wireless
Double dongles.... sounds offensive
Because if you have windows open some of the wifi willl escape
but only if you use IE. :D
Won't happen if u using edge, not IE
Lol nice one
Nice try. Just be ready to download chrome.
Not if they are closed
When your internet speed is 700 kb/s then there’s basically no difference.
😌correct
Still, ethernet is more stable than wifi signal
Damn mine is faster lol 900kbps but on ethernet lol on wireless it's like 300
700 kb/s !!!
Mine is 150 kb/s 😂
Is that even possible
It's like having your own Lane on the freeway vs honking through heavy traffic in India. Cable = Your own lane. Wireless = Traffic in India.
Ok racist
Game and Code that’s not racist dumbass, it’s the same in Bangladeshi cites.
True. I live in India and the max speed here is 2 mbps
@@MenacingPerson I can tell you’ve never been to India because if you have you would know that traffic in India is insane ant there’s nothing racist about it.
@@Koyomix86 I have never even seen any country except India in real life bro, although my dad and I think my mom and grandparents have.
*I WANT ETHERNET IN MY PHONE!*
Me too!
With OTG you can ascutally do it. If your manufacturer isn't shit and has driver support.
But I've had it once. It was so fast… Tested on local file transfer and… It doesn't even compare. Wi-Fi? Shit. Wire? Fast.
Irwain Nornossa Yes, i tought on doing that, i have the usb ethernet card from a asus ux31a, but i didnt test it yet, i will probably fix my lighting setup first, then i will record that.
But i have no idea if my moto g5 in android 7.1.1 will support that asus ethernet adapter, at least linux works with it out of the box.
You can always get one of those portable routers and plug it into your phone. :P
DJFoxAtYT That wont work, unless you're going to share the phone's connection, if its able to do that, but then its not what i want.
I want to acess the web using cables, even tho the comment itself was intended as a joke, it would be good to sit in my sofa, plug a cable and have a really stable connection.
Eduardo Avila if you are powerful enough you can make one!
Please make video telling how microwave affects wi-fi.
They both work at 2.4 GHz. Microwaves leaking from the oven basically jam the signal of nearby wifi devices
I legitimately need to know because every time we turn on the microwave at home, it completely kills the wifi signal.
@@percilenis8464
You can imagine it like this
Your Router sending +1 at the same moment as the microwave sending -1
They colide mid air and boom 0
And zero ist lost Information
Or what happens when you microwave urself
Microwaves use 800 W of power. Wifi uses 0.1 W. Even though the microwave is shielded (by the metal grid thing), if just 1% leaks out that's still 8W vs 0.1W
This video ended up being a lot more interesting than I expected.
If a person is dumb I usually just say, because Wi-fi only has 4 letters and Ethernet has 8 letters.
Person who ask the question: Ohhhhh, yea that makes sense. Thank you
Me: Here to help
8 letters, 8 wires.... it all makes sense now
wow, my mind is blown
David ohhhhhHHHHH
R134eS2o He's just joking XD
Why I'm laughing 😂
Because air is applying drag and also gravity is slowing WiFi down
CUTE
I pray that this is a joke.
And we cannot rule out the fact that WiFi has terminal velocity when moving through the air, of course.
TH-cam is back thank goodness. Yes it’s a fucking joke.
Kino Zomby and electron move faster
As a tech support agent for an ISP, the most simplest words I could describe to a person about WiFi and slow speeds, the more straws you add into a cola can how much are you really going to enjoy that cola for yourself.
But if WiFi was formed into a person, let’s say I’d be in jail.
most simplest...
ahhh english is the best
I dont get it
did you just assume my radio frequency?
Blox117 Lmfao are you one of those extra special LGBT ABC’s genders?
I sexually identify as a photon with 4.2 x 10^-9 electronvolts of energy and don't conform to your discriminatory preference of mass and inertia, or your general relativistic worldview. So shut the hell up and stop using me as a form of communication you disgusting conglomeration of massive particles!!! You can't even travel FASTER than me!
I always need my daily quickie
so does your mom
Too bad the quickie to your mother is not daily :(
Does it help that there are 69 likes?
No?
So QUICKKK
Can't wait for Space X's Starlink and I can stop using Bell's infrastructure.
Dazraf but Bell offer 1.5 Gbs
is it bfdi
Bell Labs did do a good job AT&T didn't do as well recently as they didn't have to. Starlink and other satellite internet providers might be more expensive for slower speeds. The part that the Starlink can get over AT&T and Comcast is consistent speeds .... OR so the claim is.
I have 300mb WiFi in school and wired school internet is almost the same.
Mine 150 down 50 up
Cool my schools internet can stream yt at 144 p amazing right
@@omerafzal4899 update. I've got 500Mbit WiFi at home, but wired is only 350
you guys have internet in the school , my school doesn't even allow bringing phones
@@mohammadazad8350 which country
My school doesnt allow phones too internet is just for the library
Thank you for talking about duplex communication! half-duplex really hurts throughout and wifi is forced onto it!
Don't forget throttling; that's the bane of all connections.
Most ISPs do not throttle in any meaningful way.
just 1 thing: 0:56
Electrons do not move fast through a wire, but the signal speed is close to speed of light....
Actually electrons are very slow to move in the wire.
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In a wire information (not electrons) travels (almost) at speed of light and in a fiber information travels slower than light in void and it the light doesn't move in straight line, it goes to one side of the fiber, reflects and goes to the opposite side and so on.
So on long distances wire can give lower ping, but also lower transfer
i connect my tablet via ethernet . a micro usb to usb dongle then a usb to ethernet dongle and finaly ethernet cable to the dongle and modem.
W.. what?
Wi-Fi routers now use multiple antennas to avoid half duplex or be able to operate in two (3 sometimes) different frequencies. There is also a Mu-MIMO.
Wi-fi routers can have multiple antennas, and it is possible to get faster wireless connection thanks to them - but only if the client itself has got multiple wi-fi antennas inside it. Most of the time, though, that's not the case: 95% of handheld devices has got single antenna, quite a few laptops has got two of them, and only the premium priced laptops (Macbook, for example) can have three antennas for 3x3 MIMO Wi-Fi.
Do not confuse MU-MIMO (sending data to or recieving from several devices at once) to 3 - band ( behaving like 3 routers, tuned to those 3 frequencies).
Think of the cable connection like a train, and the wireless connection like a car.
The cable connection follows the cable with very few interferences. The car on the other hand can start at the same spot, but it has to slow down either from traffic or whenever it gets to an interchange (in our case, other signals and internet routing).
They will still both start and end their journeys at the same place, but they will take different paths in the middle.
I found that mentioning the speeds of EM waves, and the flow of electrons really interesting. I was also unaware of the terms half-duplex, and full duplex. It is interesting that there are people working on full duplex tech!
Ethernet has been full duplex for 20+ years now.
Then what's the point of having more antenna's then one for a Wi-Fi Router and it still can't be full-duplex .
A lot. It has to support multiple devices simultaneously as well as multiple streams to one device if they support it. Look up : MU MIMO
More *than* one
MU-MIMO that is the reason.
As an add-on, don't forget too that these days, wired networks are almost universally SWITCHED networks, meaning network switches interconnect devices. This means that Ethernet collisions are almost non-existent because each device gets a dedicated pipe, so there's even less latency involved because you almost never need to account for two devices taking turns sharing the same wire
Unless it's a switch connected to a switch then it's a "FREEWAY ENDS" then you get dumped into a 2 way 1 lane each way street from (generic terms) Freeway 85
Very interesting explanation of this subject. Cool!
0:58 electrons barely moves in wires, waves travel in wires in emf speed but get reduce due to wire impedance.
TEXH WUICKEI
GeoMusic ur first
Electrons move incredibly slowly in a wire. The drift speed is something like 1 mm every 5 seconds. They're just very tightly packed, so electrical impulses can move really quickly.
They don't actually move, they just create small electric fields around them that transmit the charge (saw this on that one vertitasium video, might be wrong but its something like that), but it still takes longer for the signal to reach its destination because the photons take longer paths.
good intro video, thank your from your IT and Tech mates!
When I download a big file, I take my laptop upstairs and plug it into the router with an Ethernet cable. It’s a night and day difference in speeds, I get 15mbps wireless and 40mbps wired.
Sarah Bingham dude, you’ve got hella fast wifi
Catalin Nedelescu damn, I get about 0.7 mbps up and 3 mbps down
@@grazer1016 next to my modem I get 225 down on 5ghz but in my room upstairs I get 60 - 90 down
@@grazer1016 I think u just have slow wifi
I have 100mps and 5mps upload on wifi
Linus: Wireless wil always be slower than wired
Logitech 2019:..Hold my beer...
Samsung in 2015 you mean
Fanboy detected
It's tested to be slower compared to wired
@@desooooooooooooooo lmao
10gb lan: Hold my keg
During my job training as an programmer during a Network Class, I was asked how I would advertise fiber Ethernet compared to copper and my first guess was that there is less latency and I got told that is not good advertising.
Technically this isn't wrong, because light travels at light speed and electrons in a cable are a bit slower and one reason is that they don't take a direct path but with cheaper optical fiber, this is also the case. The latency difference is very tiny on scales like an office building. Sure for the stock market, anything that's faster, is better.
I have an other question that maybe might be a good video.
When you rented an apartment and you prefer cable on everything, you might run into an issue. Laying down cables to every room is hard. You can't open the wall and hide it nicely. When you try to cross rooms, you need to make a hole in the wall. I mean it should look nice, should be permanent, until you decide to move out and remove everything. There is the office style with this ugly cable channels at about 1m height and big at. The home solution might be smaller cable channels on the bottom of your wall, Ethernet outlets that you screw on the wall, instead putting them on the wall and drilling holes in the wall, to pass cables through the wall.
There is a slight issue. With more cables, the holes need to be bigger and also the cable channels. Just let imagine how many ports a single person might need in a 2 room apartment. In the bedroom there is your TV and you might get a TV in the future that supports smart TV. You also have a streaming device like a Steam Link for one of your consoles and a docking station for your Nintendo switch. A Ethernet cable for your Fire TV or similar is not nessesary, because your future smart TV might replace this. Also because you are oldschool, you have a stationary Telephon with VoIP. You also have a spare port for your laptop. That makes 5 Ports but because the outlets come in dual config and there are cables for 2 ports, we make it 6 for the bedroom.
For the living room, it's similar. 1 for the TV, 2 for Consoles, 1 for WiFi, 1 for your PC, 2 for Smart Device Hubs, 2 for a Nas, 1 for an additional PC, 1 for your VoIP Phone and 1 for your Printer. That are 12 more Ports. That are 18 Ports. I didn't mentioned Cameras or additional TVs or Displays with a streaming device. Sure everyone has other needs. Some have less consoles and some more and switching cables is a pain. I mean when someone is willing to get a proper setup, it's not that hard. A small server cabinet is easy to buy and a switch fits there in and it's tidy when done properly. I mean you even can put a server into it. Sure you can extend things with a switch. For example is the TV area. When you have 3 Consoles and your TV there, you put a 5 Port Switch there and it's not slow, because you only use one at a time. Also I forgot to mention that you can use PoE for devices that support this.
I mean other solutions might be better for renting. Powerlan is a nice solution, because you don't need to put a lot of cables. One big downside is that the bandwidth is not great. With Lan, you easily can go to 10G, even when a handful of devices uses this. Your internet speed won't get faster but accessing your Nas might be better.
One better solution might be fiber. The cables are way more thinner and theoretically can transmit to more than one device with other colors. At least 3, using rgb. Sure you can't bend the cables on sharp corners. Sure for converting, the ports should do the work but that maybe need external power. I don't think that the energy over a normal Ethernet cable is enough. Splitting the signals can done without power with simple filters.
For me that sounds like a solution that's might be on the market. Sure fiber is nothing new but you need a device that converts everything and most devices only supports plain Ethernet.
There should be better techniques, especially for people that don't want to destroy a lot. Making a hole in the wall for passing cables is something I hate. You need a long enough drillbit and that big enough. I bought a drill bit that was long enough and tried it on concrete. The hole was not the problem but the connector didn't fit through. You can't make the hole bigger without a proper bit. With paper walls this is no problem. I mean maybe there is also a device that are better for the holes. Fitting 3 twin cables through the wall for 6 Ports is quite hard but even more is way harder. Also these cables are harder to bend.
Just the quickie I needed after a hard days work!
You are so good at explaining stuff
If only this video was available when I was working tech support for an ISP. I would of told customers to watch this video so they can understand that wifi is not better than ethernet, and that wifi is not perfect.
0:52 speed ain't the same thing as bandwidth. i can't figure out why anyone would not understand that.
i know it's meant as a joke in the video.
It is because bandwidth tests advertise themselves as "speed tests". People associate bandwidth with speed. Speed is closer related to ping.
I’m glad I helped out my dad with his internet problem by simply just plugging it an Ethernet cable to his desktop and configuring it to the desired settings. He needs it
When the router starts transmitting and receiving at the same time and its eyes start going I lost it.
I actually made a project which demonstrates the speed of wps (wireless) , Ethernet and plc(power line) and best speed tested was ETHERNET! Even plc was more faster than wireless. I made this mini project with reference to earlier similar video of techquickie!!!
silicon GAMER wps stands for WiFi protected setup. Ethernet will always be faster than power line because power line has to share a “tube” with electricity and internet
That is to be expected if you know anything about networking. WiFi should be a last resort or only for things that portability is more critical than bandwidth and performance.
I was so confused at why linus was on another channel two years ago
Keep up the great work love ya!
I love a nice quickie.
I just built my first pc and i need to play wired but my mom wont let me move the router lmao
How's your gaming experience with wireless??
@@Chopper95 their gaming might be wireless
We have two new animals! Its: Wifi Turtle and Ethernet Bunny!
WiFi technology is half duplex and basically works like an old ethernet hub that has been obsolete for decades. Ethernet uses layer 2 switching to send data to the correct MAC address of a device. This means there are virtually no collisions. It also enable full duplex transmission.
The new merch looks cool
Common sense!
That is probably something you lack. :D
the ethernet is a series of tubes!
is not very common
@@worldhello1234 dummy
Common sense? More like common knowledge, which is what you lack
"Why does linus always drop stuff?"
Electrons in the wire actually move slowly. It's the electron signal or the voltage changes caused by the moving electrons that travel near the speed of light.
It's because of you i set up my home network system you have very good information.
What was up with Li-Fi .. They said its faster 10x faster than WiFi and they even tested gigabit file transfer with success... Or I could be wrong.
It's slow and you better don't shove your head or hand between the sensor and the light source. It's extremely prone to connection loss.
the frequency of light is around THz, so I think lifi can communicate virtually Tbps.
@@meinlet5103 if you have a clear line of sight and a non moving object yes. But what's the point of having a wireless connection if you can't move and must have a clear view between the 2 devices?
thats racist, what do you have against radio waves?
Line of sight and the signal to noise ratio means it will never replace WiFi. It may find a market in remote sensors or controlling a smart home environments. Situations where not a lot of data needs to be sent and latency is not a major concern.
1:49
*Look down Please, he is scraching his....*
hahaha
He was probably looking for his button that switches slides so he knows what to say
I mean really doesn't matter what he was doing, it was funny to me how Sucheen picked up that :D
OOHHH
Ok, I'm gonna look this up but I do wish Linus mentioned the use of multiple antenna. I 'think' this should allow for full duplux along with multiples of speed with each antenna-> provided your device has said multiple antenna too (I guess that's prob the catch)
Hmmm also the signal has to be translated into the radio signal and then re-translated at the receiving end. Encoded/decoded whatever the term you want to use.
That's true of any protocol though. From DOCSIS for cable modems or Ethernet or ATM. All of them require your network info to be encoded, transmitted and then decoded on the other end.
P.S the speed of the electrons going through a wire is not representative of the speed of data transmission. Electricity travels as EM
Thats what i was wondering because actual elections travel at snails pace.
froggyNotGreen yea the electrons merely generate a magnetic field due to the greater distance traveled than the protons in the copper structure, as a result of space stretching with respect to velocity
Bees will eat my hair?
But what if i dont have any 🤔!
Why don't you guys call the series "xxx as fast as possible" anymore?
Odd thing is, I experienced connection drops when playing games (Connected with Ethernet)
Enabling half-duplex fixed it.
how about a video on ergonomics, explaining how to set up a workstation properly
2:11 i have exactly the same router 😂
Haha XD
I can barely pay that "20 bucks" wifi :(
@@nanand.r damn I pay 25 for 2 satellite TV's and internet xD
@@gavra-1337 same
@@nanand.r rip for us 🥲
I have been using WIFI at home for so long that I forgot I had Ethernet cabling throughout the house. What I difference when I use Ethernet instead of WIFI. Working at home during COVID is going to be much less frustrating!
its simple really, whatever amazing wireless thing you manage to make, you can simply extend the antenna enough to physically reach its client-server, shield it, and thus become a cable, making everything better
linus drop the radio waves during the video
What if we remove the antenna from both ends and connect the device and the router with a coaxial cable instead, will that be considered wired or wireless?
Wiredless lol
Your device can't understand analog. Modems translate analog signal to digital. Your router is simply used to spread that signal wired by ethernet cables as many have a built in switch to have like 4 or so ethernet cables coming from them, or wirelessly through wifi antenna.
thheonmnaisx Actually there are many pcs that accept analog data, such as sound, modem, etc.
And what he probably said is that you would connect the router output with the wireless card input, basically both work with radio frequencies, so its theorically possible, but his wireless card would only see the router it is wired too. Don't forget that both the router and the wireless card transform digital data to analog and vice-versa.
And tbh his comment* was a joke anyway....
@@eduardoavila646 Most devices cannot accept analog signals directly. They require ADCs so your digital chips can read them properly in 1s and 0s
Buying bf Thats what de wireless card does! You're forgeting that the router creates a radio signal and the wireless card transform that analog data into digital data, so conecting both with a coaxial cable should work unless the resistance of the cable damages the signal.
Please someone tell the ISPs that wireless internet is trash and in no way can be a suitable substitute for hard lines
I get 400 mbps wireless tf u talking about
You also forget the need to code/decode the data to waves.
Thank you!
Wireless internet is faster than Ethernet for me when it’s in close proximity of the router.
Your wired system is set up wrong.
Then the switch built into your router is probably slow. It's common on cheaper routers, because most people never use the ports.
I get 100 with cable 400 wireless 400 is enough to see cables arent needed
@@upload2137 Something doesn't have gigabit ports. If everything did, you'd get 1000 wired.
I hate to be that guy but the electrons themselves move quite slowly through a conducting wire. While your words at 0:50 are wrong, your message is still accurate. The *signal* travels through the wire at between 50-99% of the speed of light (according to wiki), so you're kinda forgiven.
For anyone who is interested, which is probably nobody, if you have 15 amps passing through a 10 gauge copper wire, the electrons themselves are moving at around 0.21 millimeters per second. That's pretty slow. Has little bearing on the speed and latency of a connection though, so it isn't that important here. Another fact that nobody asked for is that "electricity" (meaning electrons) actually flow from the negative terminal to the positive terminal on a battery.
So cable are slow ?
But fibre cables fix this problem ?
Makes so much sense to be fair, when i'm at home i use my ethernet for direct connection to my internet, for my other diviceis such as my mobile devices it is wifi or my mobile provider
0:15 the old league of legends map lmao, that was 4 years ago
Its new tho
Our internet is only 500kb a second it kills me
500kb gang
Try taping RTX 208Ti on your router to make it faster
You forgot the ssd and ram
It's probably some router addon by Nvidia, the RTX 208Ti
It's not the electrons that are transmitting signal ; on a cable the electrons have an important oscillation movement but slow translation one, and do not travel in the whole cable at fast speed. The signal is carried by the variations of the electrical and magnetic field, which are both linked to the internal movement of electrons but are not carried by matter and go at almost the speed of light, depending on the material. (sry for bad english)
0:53 electrons move with a speed of a few meters per sec in the cable. What you are talking about is the signal speed in the cable. The signal moves with photons (em waves) just like in the wireless connection.
Also, this speed (speed of em waves in metal or air) is not that important, it only affects a percentage of your ping. The bandwidth or mbps of the connection have 0 connection with the speed of the signal.
In a wireless connection the higher your frequency the more data throughput. 5ghz wifi is in fact capable of double the speed of 2.4ghz when the connection is good. The higher the frequency gets its harder for the signal to penetrate walls or if you go high enough even paper.
The wired connection is much more consistent and this is why it's preferable. In a wired connection you don't even have security issues between your device and the router.
The fastest ethernet in my country is slower than wifi I saw on TH-cam
ethernet is not the speed your isp delivers
Ethernet and WiFi are generally LAN technologies and not a reflection of ISP speeds.
How come you get faster internet speeds using mobile data (4G/LTE) compared to using home internet?
I'd guess it's something to do with the mobile data having priority/direct access to the internet provider. Possibly fewer translation steps as well?
I don't. You home system is probably low quality or set up wrong.
Either your router is terrible, or you are paying your provider for some really shitty internet...
because most home wifi suck
A lot of Australians I know have issues with this. They use expensive mobile data plans because their home internet options often suck ass.
What? I certainly don't get 900Mbps on 4G LTE
I got an ad before this video started with linus in it and this is a video with linus in it lol.
With my internet we have a mesh system and I had Ethernet that when my from my bottom floor to my top and when I use WiFi it is faster than Ethernet by like 150 MB/s
Umm.. its not like i want to run a really long cable from the living room downstairs to my room upstairs just for faster internet
Sacrifices must be made for faster internet
if you really want to get faster (and more stable) internet, then you just have to do it. there's no other way. going wired is the best option there is
Wire it through the vents.
Advanced Learning Algorithm nah that wont work
Ive been thinking aboutpowerline network adapters
Fucking millennials... Is it to much work for you....
They're starting recycling their older videos
Are you new here? They started recycling years ago! This topic was first described in a paper from 1921.
Ummmmmmmm. Proper grammar
John Smith But from mouth to mouth it was heard for the first time in 1092 d.c.
@@eduardoavila646 Wasn't it 1650 a.c.?
Gewel ✔ Yes but the translation wasn't precise, so the most accepted was 1092 d.c
OMG! Thanks Linus! I've been frustrated about this for years. I lose about 35 Mbs, when plugged into my wifi, arrgh!
A surprisingly informative video where I thought there would be a simple answer.
Of course radio waves travel faster through air than electrona in wire. In fact, electrons move INCREDIBLY SLOW
the electrons move slowly, but the waves do go fast (in copper)
This was a very stupid point to make by LTT. This has to do nothing with the topic.
the waves dont travel fast, electric charge (and potential difference of charge) travels fast
It doesn't matter as much how fast electrons move, you can't modify that, but how much information is being sent per second *does* matter (the definition of bandwidth is how much information is being sent per second)
+Naveen Dookia How the fuck does this have nothing to do with why cable connections are faster than wireless ones ?
my wifi is both at home and school as fast as wired and the latencies are the same as well.
why?
Even with a 300$ router wifi is ass here
What is your internet speed?
50 mbps absolute best case scenario, 25 normal on wifi with 250 mbps wired consistently
@@silvio.zambon 48 down, 8 up, 22ms ping wireless
45 down, 4 up, 40ms ping wired (Home)
100 down, 12 up, 10ms ping wireless
99 down, 2.5 up, 0.5ms ping wired (School)
LOL, your wired speeds are shit, so is your wireless.
Good animations on this one. : )
Thank you 👍👍 👍 for that important.. that answer my questions about when I'm looking at a movie and it starts the buff
Ethernet cables are also used to carry power. They still get 1 gigabit or more even with PoE 🍄
Aww man got so close to first
Have you guys ever done an episode on Arduino? Explain what it is, why there are different companies making the same board, how it compares to Raspberry Pi, that sort of thing. I know you did one on Raspberry Pi, but a full Arduino episode would be cool.
What about encryption for wifi signals? Ethernet packets don't need to be encrypted since they're directly connected to the device, while wifi packets have to be encrypted and decrypted as they leave and enter the device.
_Watches in 4k at 2x speed_
Totally a fact: 50% of people that have heard of the word "ethernet" saw it for the first time on...
The Fortnite loading screen.
IEEE needs to allow more bands. This can be solved by having I/O on seperate bands but unfortunately we are limited to just 2.4 and 5. This means they would need to open up either 2 or 3 bands, 1 to connect with the other two to do I/O.
That wi-fi problem is here pretty bad in middle of forest. Speeds are someday better than other. Hell yeah what fun it is to play CSGO with that network, ping spiking and sometimes very high ping for couple of minutes
44th comment yay
"That's roughly the size of a football field" 😂😂😂 Americans will use anything but the metric system 😂😂😂
Edit: iOS is better than ainstoid
Love Iphones Linus isn’t American
@@charlesegan9193 He is from Canada, Canada is in America just like Mexico, Brazil, Peru or the USA.
@@charlesegan9193 Canada is not in america 😂 or all the other things you said.
TTV HQRZX there’s a continent called America you dumbarse
@@TakingBackWinter00 except Canada IS in America, North America
I heard of a thing that u plug into a wall, connect it to an ethernet cable, and then on the other side of the house you plug the second thing into the wall and connect a cable from there to PC, is that better?
Yes. Powerline ethernet can be very effective depending on the condition of the wiring in your house.
Its like a direct pipeline delivering oil or something it's just turn the tap on and it's there wireless is like having a ship haveing to bring the oil to you it takes more time and is more valuable to things that will slow it down or get in the way
I’m gonna say it...
First
at least someone who commented first right after a video was uploaded.
But not after it was over. Perfect ratio.
Lol
lol
Who gets raped by blacks
my neighborhood is fiber-to-the-house..which requires a different modem and also the boxes for pulling out the cable TV signal vs people that have coax running thru their neighboorhood....I tried explaining it to a friend back home but he didn't get it...can you make a video that explains how fiber-to-the-house for internet/"cable tv" is different than Coax-to-the-house, equipment used, uplink speed differences, why coax can sometimes have bandpass filters and how I could get "free SD cable" channels at my old house but now I don't have a choice but to pay (fiber)
This is the second time I'm seeing pulse way ad of linus before your video
Wireless around 30-45mbps
Wired is exactly 100.
Yea, its usually 30-50% less. Nothing changes that. Walls,distance, better device.. i tried a couple of stuff and still like that. Wireless is great only when i want to remove 1 cable from my table.
Pretty sure there are other factors than just the wireless for you there, just tested myself to the same router from my desktop wired 66.28/18.84 (6ping) vs my laptop wireless 64.33/19.17 (10ping). So really speed is NOT a major difference for wireless, the main problem with wireless is in consistency (or rather lack of it). Assuming a proper stable connection otherwise on the outside of your router to a destination, your wired connection will be within 1ms difference, where as a wireless could easily have something like a 10-15ms variance, how much exactly can vary a lot from wireless to wireless, based on distance, obstacles in the way, quality of equipment etc etc, but there will be some variance in a wireless always