"We Owe So Much To Rush" - Triumph's Rik Emmett
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Rush was intellectual and the music made you think. Triumphs music made you feel alive and it gives off emotion and feelings. Both awesome bands.
I certainly love them both. I saw them both live in their prime. Triumph and Rush were both amazing live acts. I can't even begin to pick who did it best.
Triumph at the US Festival was a supernatural performance
I'd love to hear their point of view from the US Festival ☺️
I've always wanted to ask if the US Festival performance was all "real" or was it cleaned up, but then I realize I'd rather just believe it was one of the best recorded live performances I've ever seen/heard.
Triumph should be. In the rock and roll hall of fame
I listened to Triumph with my emotion, I listened to Rush with my mind. Sometimes they crossed over. Either way, one was not more important than the other. They were both great and both important in their own way.
I consider myself lucky because I loved both bands too. Triumph was the band that helped me get through high school and college. But Rush has been the band that I have found more helpful to me through adulthood. Still love both though.
MrOoofah I mostly agree with you. The “politically correct, for every genre, don’t care who really deserves it” Hall of Fame aside, in Triumph, you have Fight the Good Fight, Ordinary Man, Magic Power (Yes, I loved Allied Forces)... songs for growing up. Rush didn’t have those (except Subdivisions) and that made Triumph very important to me. I loved Alex Lifeson, but I played more Rik Emmett air guitar. 🙂 To put a downer spin on this... I saw Rik at a small club a couple of years ago and I was profoundly disappointed. The show wasn’t great and Rik seemed kind of put out by his fans. It could be the Triumph fans that put him out. I don’t know. Truly a “never meet your heroes” situation.
Ernest B Agreed. See my other comment.
How can you not listen to Rush songs like Time Stand Still, Red Barchetta or even Countdown and not be moved with emotion?
@@MrOoofah I'll agree. I was a huge Triumph fan after I saw the Rock and Roll Machine tour. Effing amazing.
What I found though was that Triumph records were an instant gratification and (sorry) somewhat throwaway, where Rush albums were a slow roll. I recall that when a Rush album came out, my favourite songs would change over time, as I listened more critically. Probably a mindset thing.
More notably for me was that as a crappy guitar player, I was disappointed with Allied Forces in that I could at least recreate most of the songs very quickly.
Rik's a legend and a gentleman.
One might say, "a legendary gentleman." And an incredible enthusiastic one.
He is indeed.
I'm a huge Triumph fan, probably because Rik Emmett is a real composer. and he's fantastic with the double neck guitar.
Huge Rush fan here, and I really enjoyed Triumph. They were never a favorite, but I enjoyed the hell out of them. Fight the Good fight!
I love both bands. Rush was a powerhouse musically with all three members being immensely talented and the lyrics being thought provoking. Triumph made music that I just enjoyed. It was joyful positive music. The two bands aren't that similar, in my opinion. We can enjoy both.
I concur. I love both bands too.
I completely and totally agree and feel the same way. Like both bands, but I my favorite Canadian bands are Triumph and April Wine ...
Triumph, Rush & April Wine!
Three Canadian bands that rock!!! Also three of my all time favorites…
April Wine! Made it in Houston Texas when I was in high school. Just between you and me.
Plus, Trooper and PRISM.
Don't forget Loverboy.
Budgie! What's that Canadian Band that wrote the Song; Monkey Bars? "Come On Canucks!👍
Wot, no love for the Max machine!?! 😿😹
Triumph and Rush will always have places in my heart.
Got the magic power of the music makes your morning mood
Ventricles or atria? Left or right?
Me too! Me and my brother from Lakeside park signed a petition to have a memorial put there for Neil. We signed as soon as we heard.
Man, I miss Rush and Triumph. Was such a great time to be in Canada in the 80s
Right? We had it so good and we didn’t even know it
Triumph is so under appreciated by so many. I love them sooo much.
Love Triumph! Such an under rated band!
this guy had that great voice , and a talent to write songs , forever one of the great CANADIAN bands to make it thanks Rick !!
I could listen to Rik Emmett talk all day . He is a very down to earth person . Thanks for everything you have done . 👍
WE DO OWE SO MUCH TO RUSH!!!
I ❤❤❤ CANADIAN ROCK!!!
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!
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RUSH has always been my favorite band, they helped sculpt my musicianship, Triumph was always in the top 5 because they just Kicked Ass
Fight the good fight and magic power are great songs
I like both of these bands (Triumph and Rush). they have differences, as Rik stipulated. The one difference however is control of what you are going to do as a band and creating music, and Rush had that control over the music companies, especially after 2112. And unfortunately , Triumph struggled with having that artistic control and that led to problems.
yeah, i think the only similarities between the two is that they were power rock trios from Canada. After that, two very different sounds.
@@narq5099 ,Triumph was stadium rock bandf while RUSH are musicians that play in stadiums
I loved Triumph and their positive messages.Rick's voice and awesome guitar playing. I always respected the musicianship in Rush, but just because it was "tight and complex" it didn't make we want to pump my fist in the air. I just watched Triumph at the Us Festival. Amazing performance.
Je préfère et de loin Triumph 🎸, surtout sur scène. Ils sont meilleurs vraiment des bêtes de scène. Je les aimes toujours ❤️ autant. Love Canada et ses trios
While I always liked Triumph's rock anthem-like tunes, I really loved how Rik Emmett would stretch out and challenge listeners with other styles of music on each Triumph record. Each album had nylon string instrumental things, jazzy things, more blusey things.....As a guitarist, this opened doors for me, and let me wade into the waters for those different styles of music. Additionally, the lyric content had a more positive spin to it, and stretched out beyond the typical rock ditty.... Thanks for posting this!
Triumph is totally underrated. Rik is one of my favorite guitarists. Him and Ty Tabor are criminally forgotten about.
Rush and Triumph were 2 of my favorite bands in high school...both for totally different reasons. RUSH Was the ultimate progressive hard rock band while Triumph was going after the popular arena rock gods. Both were successful in their goals, i think. I love each for different reasons. Always have...always will!
BOTH GREAT BANDS THAT CREATED SOME OF THE GREATEST MUSIC EVER MADE!!!
THE MOST underrated bands of all time!!! Rick is a top, top notch musician/guitarist
saw Triumph 3 or 4 times in the 80's. They were one if not THE best live bands you could see...they really brought it live!!
Both Rush and Triumph are such great bands. I so appreciated the creativity of both bands after seeing them live on stage you can’t fake that, well, at least back in those days anyway.
Huge Rush fan here - they brought me to Triumph who I always thought were kind of on the same level - Rik's playing and singing are phenomenal - and the Triumph 'hits' always get me psyched! Thanks for your efforts with this channel, man! Hey - let's hear some drumming!
I agree..RUSH brought me to TRIUMPH as well. RUSH is the greatest band of all time. Rik is an amazing musician. Love both RUSH and TRIUMPH.
Same ... Rush brought me to "the Rik Emmett band". Whereas Rush's members were all masters of their instruments, song-writing, and lyrics; Triumph was 90% Rik Emmett, 10% Gil Moore (who had an amazing rock voice), and some obligatory guy on the bass. But it was basically the Rik Emmett show. Rik had all the talent, the looks, the excitement, and the entertainment value. And "the hits always get me psyched" too!
Moi c'est le contraire, j'ai toujours préféré Triumph 🎸🇨🇦 que je connais par cœur ❤️. Je n'ai jamais cherché à mieux connaître Rush, j'écoute 1 ou 2 morceaux de temps en temps, mais ça le fait toujours pas. Le jeu de guitare 🎸 et la voix de Rik Emmett sont très largement au dessus. Comme on dit en France " les goûts et les couleurs". Chacun fait son choix. Moi c'est Triumph 🎸🇨🇦🇨🇦😜🥰🥰
Like Rush, the power trios were my favorite bands so much that I am in a
power trio band right now. Nothing has been more pleasing than this. 3 players that have to
produce enough sound for 6 players, tight, aggressive, lyrical, artistic value. Triumph and Rush.
Need I say more.
Seen triumph, front row in Anchorage Alaska, in the mid 80’s, best concert ever, along with seeing 38 special.
I’ve been to hundreds of concerts. I’ve seen Rush about 15 times. I’ve seen all of the big name bands. The best show I’ve ever been to was Triumph in the mid-late 80’s. They played Life’s Been Good to Me as their encore.
Both bands are great. Triumph is so underrated!
I wore out an 8 track “Allied Forces” in my 72’ GTO & saw them live at the “Toledo Speedway Jam” in 82’.
Triumph is still one of my favorite bands in 2020 😎👍
For me, it was a 77 Z/28 with a Jensen cassette deck.
Allied Forces just "Kicks Ass", ...to this day...👍
I still have my concert tshirt from the Allied Forces tour at Cobo Arena in Detroit...I posted a picture of it on Reddit and someone messaged me and said they'd give me $200 for it, I declined and then offered $250, I still declined...it's one of my prized possessions, along with my Clive Burr drumstick and a piece of the lower horn of Richie Blackmore's strat that he destroyed on stage.
Yeah, I dig what you're saying. Peter Frampton comes to mind. Did you have one of those Copenhagen hats and a half-shirt. .
Rush and triumph are both in my top favorite bands.
Great interview. Just watched the Triumph doc. ❤
SO TRUE what Rik said about Rush. ... I live in Toronto, saw them at least 15 times and they usually had TWO openers who were always the very best Canadian Bands, many of whom could not have otherwise financed a tour of the whole sparsely populated country
Love Mr. Emmit … thank you for talking about RUSH!!! 🎸🥁🎸
I love that he mentioned Bruce Cockburn....I could almost live off of Rush, Triumph and Bruce Cockburn!
Jonathan Tieszen "Lord of the Starfields" and "Humans"
I saw Zon at my high school and Triumph from the Rock and Roll Machine tour until Thunder Seven from 1978-1985.....simply great !!!!!...and Rik solo many times .....this guy was the first I ever seen unless you call the back up band Hellfield as the 1st band in reality....TRIUMPH had the greatest stage show.....just as good as KISS at that time !!!!
I like Triumph much more than Rush, praise GOD for blessing Triumph with so many great, positive important songs....... I am not saying they were better writers or Musicians than the 3 Rush individuals, I mean come on, Peart, Lifeson, Lee were off the charts incredible, I just personally love Triumph.
Rik has THE best classical guitar parts in the history of rock.
RUSH is a category or their own.Nobody can really explain them other than say,"Thats RUSH".Triumph was great and put on awesome shows.They just sounded more mainstream and did it very well.I wish time travel was possible to go back and see both in their prime.
I love Triumph’s music, specially Rik’s high notes and cuteness. ❤
going thru my teens in the 70s when triumph hit the scene i wanted to be rik emment! good looking guy in a great band with great music standing on stage with that double neck guitar was the coolest thing on earth to me! i have to add rush was my first concert back around 75!
Very humble man
We really enjoy your Rik Emmett interviews. You do a great job and Rik is very generous with his time and career. A true gentleman.🙏🏻🎧
Rik is a smart and very nice person. I had to laugh when he mentions he gets inspired in the middle of doing the dishes he promised! I can relate, Rik!
I love these interviews. Rush has always been my #1 favorite band of all time. Triumph was a band I also adored in the 80's. Thunder Seven was my favorite album. New sub!
I saw Triumph/Foghat on my birthday.....1983........Nassau Coliseum ...........NEVER SURRENDER!! 👍👍
Triumph could be the most underrated band in the World ....top 40 platinum selling and my Favorite Canadian band!!!
Well spoken from the source. Triumph commanded studio, stage and signature that plainly defined/ powered their market,catalog wide. The beauty that band backdropped on their era owes nothing to anything but their creation. Rikky owned all he surveyed in the company he kept and the North American market. He continues to inspire greater guitars, because he brought them.;
Rush is the greatest. Triumph was great.
I saw Triumph a number of times and I was in awe of Rik Emmett! Jammin away on the guitar and also singing like he did!! I love the memories of me and my friends at those concerts just going crazy!! Thanks Rik and band!!
I love you Rik Emmett!! Triumph is one of my all time favorite bands. Seen you open for Rush!! Very humble, and gracious interview.❤❤
You're mistaken, Triumph never ever played with Rush.
iv'e played music for 46ish years..Rik/Triumph is a huge part of how i play and write!
That's good you
His Awesome guy!! I like also his Voice. First time I've ever heard on their Music is Blinding light show and right away I like it..Thanks for your awesome music.
His first solo album is in my top ten best albums, all the songs are great, and so much variety.
Thankx......Always good to see rik......
ZON was an amazing band. Astral Projector is a great album. I never knew Rik was in with those guys at one point.
I loved that Rik mentioned Bruce Cockburn. One of my favorite Christian artists. I never got why people had this big thing about pitting Triumph against Rush. They are both great bands with great musicians. For me personally, the only similarities I see are, being from Canada and being power trios. Personally I would listen to Triumph over Rush 6 out of 7 days of the week. But that's just me, ya know?
Listening to him describe doing the dishes and then wandering away to chase an idea the popped into his head, I immediately thought ADHD. The fact that he referred to his wife as proof that not finishing a task was a very common for him also helped.
The interesting part, for me, was when he said that he was also capable of extreme focus on something that really appealed to him. He suggested this behaviour was almost like OCD. He's wrong there, however, not just because that's not an OCD trait, but actually because it is also an ADHD trait.
Over the past couple of decades, researchers have come to regard the first "D" in ADHD to be something of a misnomer. A "V" (for variable) would be better because we can both fail to finish chores and projects as well as hyper-focus on others we really like at the moment. It's just that we're not very much in control of the amount of attention we have for any given situation.
Creativity is also an ADHD trait, especially for those who have an above average IQ. Sounds like Mr Emmett falls into that group as well.
One of my greatest influences as a player and musician. Named my son Emmett.
One of my main influences too. Named MY kid, "Blinding Light Show."
Saw Triumph back in the early 80's with UFO. I was so excited to wear my Triumph and UFO jersey concert shirt to school the next day. When some one called my name or said something to me I would go, "What!?" "I didn't hear what you said." My ears were still ringing from the concert the night before. That's what happens when you squeeze to the front of the stage to watch and hear Rick, next to the House speakers. WHAT!! LOL
I think what Rik is trying to say is that Rush didn’t write “radio-friendly” songs. Triumph was definitely more “accessible” metal. You can define “accessible” however you like. BTW, Ive seen Rush 20+ times, Triumph once.
Rush 17, Triumph 0 for me.
Any radio friendly advantage Triumph supposedly may have had died when Spirit of Radio hit the airwaves.
Yes, that part of the interview made sense. Triumph had more radio-friendly and accessible songs. But I wish he'd stopped there without getting into how prog rock songs were a collection of parts, blah blah blah. He lost me there. Anyway, indeed .... Rush 22 times, Triumph 2 times.
I think what Rik says here is important to the band's legacy. It was about being a little more seductive than direct. Are there songs that have S, D, and R&R, sure, some of Triumph's songs and albums look at themes that most rock bands would shun. Thunder Seven investigating the musical and spiritual relevance of time to the human condition is one of the many examples. That is why they deserve a place in rock history.
I love the description of jumping from ADHD to OSD ! I think all musicians/composers/artists relate to that, whether diagnosed or not! lol
The interesting thing about Rush is all three members had a unique 'Rushy' look to them. Yes I am weird.
Thanks, you are a very insightful interviewer , you asked some really interesting questions.
funny- listening to triumph was the air-drumming fist-pumping time, and rush was the contemplative... and yet here's rik emmet being possibly more articulate than Neil peart... frikkin amazing.
Both bands were great for very different reasons. Rush was clearly more innovative and technically proficient, but both groups rocked hard and put on amazing shows.
Rik is a musician. His collaborations with Lifeson, one in an old Guitar Player mag back in 87 or 88. And he brought Lifeson for his song Human Race. I love Triumph but some of his Solo albums, his playing is incredible
Yeah 'Beyond Borders' in the Guitar Player mag sound page. With Leona Boyd and Ed Bickert (sp?) - THAT was amazing.
Blinding Lights Show is an epic tune.
I remember as a kid, there were many who felt that Triumph tried to sound like Rush...even if they thought it was unintentional.
I was certainly on the Triumph bandwagon. Rik really taught me how to play guitar...I would love to see Rik play here in Peoria, that's where I live...but I think he meant Peoria Ill. I live in Peoria AZ...
As a young guitar player that grew up in Toronto , I loved both these bands. Fortunate to take a few lessons from Rik and have met Geddy and Al at a few meet and greets. Rik is a real musician with integrity but there is a huge difference between the two bands. Mike and Gil are not real players wheras Geddy and Neil are off the charts great. Also the friendship between Geddy and Al helped probably keep the band together during difficult times.
Exactly! The Rik Emmett band was 90% Rick, 10% Gil, and an obligatory hairy guy on the bass. (I hate to say that, because I've seen interviews with the bassist, Mike something, and he's a cool guy, but a background bass player at best.)
hell yeah Ordinary Man is my jam
Love Triumph! You should do more videos about Rush. They are starting to become my favorite band of all time, even above the Beatles(but I need to listen to them more carefully). Thanks for the show and Godspeed!
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Ok, That is more like I would expect from a guy who was front man for Triumph. I was glad to hear Rik state why he preferred his music style to Rush's. I prefer candor anyway. He was very diplomatic about it, I'm not saying he did an Yngwie. Triumph and Rush 2 different bands 2 differing styles. All good.
That Res 9 album is the best. So so good--if you haven't heard it, you've got to.
One of my favorite all-time guys and favorite bands of all-time.. but man, Rik must be drinking a lot of red wine those teeth!!
“The air-drummers, they’re going to pick Rush every time!”. Rik got that one right. No one inspired more air-drummers than did Neil Peart. I’ve been to so many Rush concerts, watching the air-drummers everywhere in the arena drumming away.
I have to be honest though, I was just as bad on some songs and had to air-drum those parts. You just can’t help it. It’s like people starting to dance when they hear a good blues tune.
There are just Rush songs that drive your arms up into the air. Neil had a special talent for causing that.
Aww, that was the moment that Rik threw Gil Moore under the bus. haha. But yes! Neil found ways to make the drums a MAJOR part of a song's melody (not just rhythm and fills) that we would actually sing, if we could, but we had to air-drum instead. He was amazing! No one else achieved that.
Rush was a progressive rock group, they were too technical for a general audience,they have their core die hard following. Triumph had a more commercial sound, way more "accessible" like Rik said - they should have been bigger. Plus there were GIRLS at Triumph concerts, how often did you see a female at a Rush show that wasn't dragged there by her boyfriend? lol
Lol
Ha, ha I dragged him!
I really like and respect Rick and Triumph. And love a few of their albums. Like Allied Forces. However, I love Rush. And Rush are great songwriters, yes Lerxst may have had a riff and Ged a bass part, but that happens with every band. Rush has proved time and again that they’re perhaps one of the greatest songwriters if not the greatest ( Beatles let’s say for argument) Rush has songs ranging from Classic Hard Rock, Prog Rock bordering Proto Prog metal. Catchy tunes, synth driven songs of the 80s and post grunge era tunes - Counterparts, T4E. Also a bit of prog pop with RTB and Presto ( for the lack of a better description) Rush> Triumph. I really like Triumph. But Rush are in another league. Also Rick covered Red Barchetta. Why would he if it wasn’t a great song??!
I grew up in the Midwest USA in the 70's...my favorite bands 1 and 2 were Rush and Triumph in that order. Other than they both were from Canada, I never associated the two as they were two different brands of Rock. If I wanted to lose myself...Rush...if I wanted to just jam out...Triumph. I played in a number of garage bands in High School and favored Riks playing better sound wise (and Montrose) than Alex's. To be clear however, Rush is my number 1.
Triumph and Rush both rule
REZ9 is a very good album. A modern take on a Rik/Triumph album.
They sang about positive things
Guessing that RUSH didn't use odd time signatures just to show they could.
Always preferred Triumph over Rush.
I Always preferred Rush over Triumph. Preferences are like assholes everybody's got one.
It stinks that people always want to compare this band with that band and musician vs musician. Art is not a competition, it's an expression that affects different people in different ways. Why can't we just leave it at that? Both bands were great, BTW.
I just want to know who did your'e theme song? it's one of those things were it only took about 3 seconds to grab my attention,,,within about 10 seconds it was damn,i really like that.wish they would ply moore of it.as far as Triumph goes,,I'm pretty strongly opinionated about them boys.I certainly believe that they deserve at least one of the best rock bands of all times,did Rik Emmett well I certainly think he has Guitar Gods standing. and now i did warn you that I was pretty strongly opinionated about them ,,, back in the days when his vocal cords were still young and strong , and had not yet figured out that weren't immortal. was quite possibly the greatest male vocalists that ever lived.
So if I have an idea then I can get out of doing the dishes? I'm gonna try it. Thanks
I love both bands, I grew up with them, idolizing them from high school. That said, I think Rush is musically light years away. Not talent wise. Rick and Alex are equally wonderful guitarists. The difference, for me, is that Triumph, no matter how amazing Rick's solos and vocal range are, they remain in a very predictable rock and roll frame. 4/4 measures and conventional song structure (stanza-chorus-stanza-chorus-guitar solo-chorus). Magic Power escapes that model and that makes it unique. Etc, etc. I just love them both but I wish Triumph had experimented more. Rick's idea of progressive, as least as expressed here, is very limited.
Love both bands but Triumph more so, as great as both bands were musically...Vocally Triumph were on a whole different level with Rik and Gil.
Triumph is very good. RUSH...2nd greatest band ever (behind only The Who).
Seems like Rush were "composers" from the beginning, while Triumph were "singer/songwriters". Although Ged expressed interest in the singer/songwriter approach in the later Rush chapters
It’s odd that Rik’s website isn’t secure. My computer won’t let me access it.
He mentioned dream theater.another super prog band.
I kind of think in some ways Triumph is what Rush would have became, had John Rutsy not left the band.
Hmmmmmm. That is a really interesting thing to contemplate. You may be right. I'm going to think about that all day now.
I think there was a moment when Triumph was better known than Rush. .......