“Actually she’s in the US so she doesn’t have to give up any of her own rights.” Hahaha!!!! A moment of extreme clarity.
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Haha, yeah, and also to the argument talked about in the video saying that Chinese people aren't ready for democracy, well...what is Taiwan then but a country filled with ethnic Han Chinese that have a democracy? 😂
Put simply, she is just an ignorant person under Survivorship Bias. She grown up in a pretty nice family environment, under the brainwashed propaganda she just lost her mind because losing the whole picture of the country. If every stratum can feel the inequalities, the country is of cause unstable. She is just a lucky one, only luck she has.
Christian de la Mare Also, Simon should interview Xu Jinping daughter in the US (living and studying under a pseudonym ). Just shows you how hypocritical the Chinese “leader” is.
Christian Bai It is kind of ridiculous that Simon is even questioning if the Chinese are ready? He’s been to Taiwan and it’s painful that he doesn’t mention Taiwan through out this WHOLE video, but at the same time he seems to “self censorship “. This is obvious and he should know better.
@@TesterBoy How is that hypocritical, the US has some of the greatest universities in the world as a practical father why wouldn't you want your kids to study at the most prestigious ones.
Have you passed my words which I have leaved last time in your clip to your wife,that she has been marrying a wonderful guy? I am very glad and also proud that your wife is a Taiwanese, too. As a Taiwanese, I am so 與有榮焉！
You're really different from the majority of Chinese from the mainland.! You're open-minded, having your own thoughts, and respect others’ viewpoints. And this is why I love your videos and have subscribed your channel. Good luck to you and I expect to watch more of your videos.
And you speak fluent English. I can easily understand what you are saying. Others should learn to speak English fluently as well. How old are you? You look so young...and handsome too. 🙂✌
One is only ready for freedom when it’s cost is worth paying. Freedom is never free. When enough common people are willing to pay the price, freedom will be achieved.
Year, agreed, the price for American freedom is over 6 million infected and 180K+ people dead by the covid-19. Well done! Anyway, keep going, we are having party at Wuhan right now.
@@tkcha888 do you have an honest and accurate number of how many people died from Covid 19 in Wuhan ? If so, it is hard to imagine how you could party over that~
@@y2wong2013 Real number? haha, you know the real numbers? tell me. I just know China Wuhan only lock-down for 4 months, then people return to normal life, I just know China is the only large economic growth in 2020, I just know the Chinese Foreign Direct Investment suppressed US in year 2020. I just know all people around me they are happy traveling inside China. What's the real number? If you don't know, shut your FxxK month up then.
If only politicians would be responsible as he said. So far political correctness are gone to the trashbags. Literally went to shits. While more and more country have leaders that are populism and doesn't care about the country. There are also free media that claim to be "news reporters" spreads hateful and terrorists thought. How can China ever be ready.
Democracy and vote rights are a powerful weapon, and like all weapons like firearms the users/voters carry the responsibility. What happens to the country is the people's responsibility. China just help you carry the responsibility. Your votes can do more harms than the guns. If you ask if China can allow the sales of firearms. It's probably will cause a mayhem. Its never good to introduce arms to an unarmed states. Same as democracy, it's easy to demolish the socialism-democratic system, but it will be impossible to reintroduce it. And America is a trial run for China to introduce democracy. So as with the current democracy in America its impossible. But China have its own way of democracy.
As a Burmese who can express himself in Chinese in the Chinese way of thinking, I just wanna let you know, if I may, that you are a truly special Chinese. Love you bro. Keep up the good work.
Simon: If I had a son and he possessed only a fraction of your wisdom and spirit, I would be the proudest father on the planet. Such a shame but hardly surprising that the authorities are now starting to crack down on you and your family, please keep safe. (Greetings from an old grumpy German living in the UK, who deeply loves Chinese and Taiwanese culture.)
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" is a quote often heard regarding governments in the West. I would say any institution that has no oversight is in danger of perpetuating the acquisition of power itself as the ultimate goal. Limiting the flow of information is a time proven way of retaining power. An ill informed populace is much easier to control than one that is offered alternative views. The ability to limit access to information is a policy that the CCP has become a world leader at. This policy is very attractive to repressive regimes around the world and no doubt will become an important export from China. I don't know what the future of China holds, but it couldn't hurt to be looking for alternative possibilities in other areas of the globe. Good luck to you and thanks for offering an insight into daily life in China.
Your first post talks about ^power tends to corrupt...^ and in my post those 3 us presidents speeches talks about direction of us is heading for good or bad, but its seems ominous as these ex presidents are conveying to american people of direction we are heading.
@@littlemoutha9998 ..... Although I am familiar in general with the presidents you mentioned, I don't know specifically what vision for a future USA they may have had in common.
I love the bicycle analogy, great job! I live in the US. I talked to a Chinese coworker 11 years ago about freedom, what she said was exactly like what your friend said - Chinese people don’t want (or not ready for) the freedom. I had the same thought and reaction like you had. I was shocked and thought why she could enjoy the freedom in the US yet, she thought her own people in China are not good or smart enough to have the freedom, or deserve the freedom? Was it because the Chinese government did a great job to brain wash people? I just don’t get it. Anyways, love your videos.
Myra Chen You should learn Chinese history and culture. People grow up from his own history and culture. Also, What if the kid has disabilities? Or the kid lived in mid century ? He will never be able to learn. Google this”王侯将相宁有种乎”， it is what 90% Chinese people believe. It means everyone can be the king. Imagine millions of people are fighting for a crown. Lol. If you give them freedom it means chaos. If you have been fighting for a leadership in China, you will understand . Also, China actually have vote in those country-side villages. Many Chinese farmers vote for their villages leader. But those leaders never give people freedom. Some small villages leader even forcing the marriage. And their villages rules sometime are more powerful than police power. And there are 50% of Chinese are still living poor villages and 30% ppl just move into urban in less than 20years. And only less than 5% ppl have a chance to travel to the western world. So most of Chinese mind are very old and tradition. And you want government give them a westernized democracy? I bet at least 70% of Chinese will be confused. Just look at Taiwan, even them are still learning and messed up. Always remember this, western world has been developed in modern way for more than 200years, but China just started at 1979. More than that, the culture is totally different at beginning, Chinese are from farmers, but western are from business.
Search for Eric Li and Zhang Wei Wei in TH-cam and they will tell you why democracy is not form China. Can democracy truly buy happiness? Can free speech fill a person's empty stomach? Compare America and China. How many people has the US alleviated from poverty? And how people has China alleviated from poverty. How is the infrastructure in US and how is the infrastructure in China? BTW, China had the most bullet trains. America spent their tax payers money on military because they want to be number one. Who suffer?
China should go back Also to Its Root philosophy and rich culture of the past such as confusian teaching and slowly leave the marxist idea that is Western product
Actually it may be the opposite: people who are not given any freedom learn to behave very irresponsibly and selfishly, because someone else makes the big decisions for them ...
I'm from the USA and I can tell you that you fight for your freedom to do with your life what you choose. You are a grown man if you are not hurting anyone you should be free. God bless I hope things are getting better for you all. ❤️🇺🇸❤️🙏🏽
You are not an ordinary Chinese guy. You have a brilliant mind and posted the first comment that I have discovered in TH-cam to FB. Your comment is so compelling . Although I am a 68 year-old Chinese/American lived in HK 5 decades ago, been naturalized citizen, with decades of years between us, we have the same mindset. The person whom you addressed with the certain mindset is a majority in the Chinese community living in America the last 15 years. They are quite different from the Chinese who came in 1965 and after. I’ve been warned by a Chinese friend not to rock the boat if I want to continue my business affiliation. You friend has no idea the freedom she’s enjoying and perhaps taken for granted, will soon be lost and our Republic were almost lost had not Trump became our president. We are struggling here to keep our freedom from eroding away. The Swamp Creatures: Media, educational system are controlled by the Leftist. The Conservatives finally woke up. And we’re almost too late, but there’s much, much more to do. I know I am speaking in general but that’s all the time I have at the moment. To get back at the topic of this video comment of yours, I don’t have much hope that the people of Hong Kong would get the freedom you once enjoyed.because I know how CCP thinks. There will be much bloodshed and much sacrifices you’ll have to take. On a positive note, The kind of sacrifices our Forefathers took. Have you seen the movie with Mel Gibson, Patriots? It’s the kind of sacrifice our forefathers had to fight. I pray for you and Hong Kong, and may you be safe.
I'm Chinese and I 100% agree with you Simon. As you grow up in life, you will have to take off the training wheels off someday else you'll be holding back the potential for success.
"For democracy to work, at least 60% of the population has to be educated" quote the late Lee Kwan Yew of Singapore. A conversation with the elders, seniors in China like our parents and grandparents might give you a rough idea of how far we are from achieving that. Although we have a generation of more knowledgeable youths now; youth hardly make even 30% of the demographics; don't mind taking away the less educated. Change is inevitable however, with increasing knowledge and exposure as the nation improves; but it'll take some generations for real change. Changes will come progressively only as people's lives improve and learn to better appreciate democracy. How long did the West took to achieve democracy? Sudden changes towards democracy will only create chaos. I prefer the analogy of a baby learning to walk. Small baby steps. It's inevitable in time.
Democratic countries can’t even make it work and for all their talk about democracy they seem to always think of clever ways to circumvent it. For example Americans are notorious for putting barriers on voting that disproportionately affects African Americans
US has democracy, and they voted for a lunatic president causing much instability of the world. Says alot. Ps. I had been an advocate of democracy for the longest time, but now im realising its flaws as i mature. Try google Eric Xi Li. LKY was right. What a nation need is not democracy, but meritocracy; or a system that finds the most competent honest people to be leaders. The general populace are easily swayed by free media, US is an example.
I understand your point and it does have validity. Still, just a little more freedom, gradually, and a little less brutality, would be a good place to start. But the CCP, unfortunately, is not interested in these things.
teresa wang 说的没错，把人民的福祉当做优先是一个国家的根本是对的，但是台湾的制度能保障所有人的利益吗？台湾的人民的权利是否又能全部得到保障呢？我不觉得有这么完美的一个制度，但是中国人深知没有国哪有家的道理，党派之争不会成为人民权利之争，只会成为财阀之争，变成美国利益的牺牲品。中国历史我会研究，世界历史我同样会去研究，美国有自身的利益需求，中国人不会愿意成为美国霸权主义的牺牲品。
I can't believe the people live in mainland could develop this kind of mindset. You are awesome and thanks for making this video. This is from Hong Kong but I think we are in the same boat. People should deserve human right.
It is quite complex, isn't it Simon. Each viewer will receive and process your presented thoughts, rationalizations and questions through their own PARTICULAR paradigm. Adding politics into any mix makes information, knowledge and understanding even more difficult! Again, thank you for sharing your perspectives.
You're not ordinary Simon. Keep up the dialogue and engaging with netizens around the world. Having people speak their mind is an important process that's worth the effort.
"how did you learn English so well? " hmmmm I find this question fascinating, because it's actually like the theme of this video- how do people learn about democracy? And the answer is, well, for starter, just give it a shot.
From your words in the videos, I can feel how much you love your home country--or more specifically, the people there living in the country. I got it why you made your vids in English from one of the episodes, which I think it's a good way to speak up to the world and make more people know there is some viewpoint other than the "mainstream" in China. I personally tend to use English whenever I try to express myself really deep down to my heart. It seems to be easier to put it that way. It may be the reason why I don't feel any odd watching your vids. Best wishes to you and those you love. Cheers
I agree with you. Your sentiment is beautifully expressed in the American Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...." "We hold these truths to be self-evident"
My uncle is the same way as your friend and your uncle, despite speaking English and living and working in the United States for almost 30 years (and, for that matter, having been sent to the countryside during the Cultural Revolution). I guess some people are convinced that, without authoritarianism, China will just completely disintegrate. They probably drew the wrong lessons from the collapse of the Soviet Union...
Thank you for your channel. It's one thing to hear about China from westerners who have lived in China for years, but it is very different to hear from a native Chinese person (who speaks very good english by the way, I had assumed you'd studied overseas and benefitted from total immersion in the language).
Simon I just stumbled upon your channel and I just want to say its just really interesting and rare to hear such an honest an open perspective. You seem to balance both sides of a lot of the classic China vs. The West issues really well. Many in the West are so anti-China that they completely fail to see its positives, and many in China completely fail to have any critical thought when it comes to their government. The kind of stuff you're putting out here is really valuable, probably more than you realise, so thanks and keep it up.
China mainland still have that kind of “奴才”mindset, a term that an ordinary citizens express themselves when they meet officials of the emperors, which directly set themselves as ‘slaves’. Even now in modern Chinese society, normal white and blue collars address their upper subordinates as “领导” means leader but actually means deeper in Chinese, a generic term for the one who control or lead you. It’s fascinating they even casual say this ”领导” even when they are eating casually with friends without the so called leaders present. It speaks so much about the culture that are still backwards and deep-rooted.
A lot of people say things like this... China's too big, China's still underdeveloped, China still has too many unstable places like Xinjiang and Tibet, etc... I think it's not that China isn't ready, it's that the CCP isn't ready to give up power, and is doing everything they can to hold the Chinese people back from that future. It's reached a point where the economic reforms made by Deng have brought China to a peak point of global power and prosperity that would naturally continue to full-fledged freedom, and now the CCP under Xi is panicking trying to reign in the foreign influences that naturally come along with globalization, portraying them as corrupting influences that will harm China when they're really just a natural exchange of ideas that all people connected to the larger world are subjected to to some degree. Chinese people introspectively questioning how things are supposed to be in China doesn't harm China - It can only serve to make China better. The idea that the CCP provides stability and social harmony really isn't that intuitive to me. Yes, I love China's convenient mobile payment system just as much as anyone, and I love the train system and all the metros popping up in different cities. Yet, look how unstable and inconsistent the legal system is. It's a mess, and it seems to be that way in order to benefit those in power when it suits them by allowing them to skirt around parts of the law inconvenient for them. Yes, more and more Chinese can get an education. Having worked in underdeveloped Western parts of China, however, I question how useful that education really is. I see teachers abusing their power. I see students who shouldn't pass through being passed through to reach quotas. I see students who are conditioned to pass tests but have few practical skills and little critical thinking ability. I see the latter point here with all the CCP apologists infiltrating Western websites to defend China, assuming that any foreign media that casts China in a less than stellar light is "brain-washing propaganda" because they can't comprehend how the world outside of China really works. What China needs first is to allow people the right to think for themselves and know how to think for themselves... But unfortunately I don't see that happening under the CCP. I fear that, with China's education system the way it is now, the next step beyond the CCP would be an authoritarian ethno-nationalist government that would be worse for both China's ethnic minorities and for the international community.
Well said, many valid points but I do think democracy also will cause chaos in China and China should take steps towards a more civil society and not one-party rule. I do think based on China's history, there has always been a need for an iron fist and ideology accepted by 100% of the people. Despite its looks, China is actually very fragile. So fragile that a 9 year old boy who called Xi Jinping fat and a girl singing the anthem in a cute way are censored. To me then, China is extremely weak actually and historically has been easy to break apart. Geography plays a strong role in this. Cause of its size, it has many minority groups and eliminates local cultures and forces people to go through Sinicization. (Google Sinicization). Taiwan/Chiang Kai Shek did this too. Xi Jinping is going backwards cause he's afraid of slowing economy. He knows economy is getting slower and he cannot stop it, regardless of tradewar or Huawei. So he sends workers overseas on Belt Road projects to keep them employed in other countries. Not in China where infrastructure is finished, no jobs are left. If those workers stay in China, massive unemployment and unrest. So release the pressure onto other countries, cannot afford? China gives you loans. Xi Jinping is increasing his power also cause of factions in China. BIggest threat to China is not US. It's Chinese people. Factions like Youth League, Zhou YangKang, Bo Xilai, Shanghai Clique, these factions can divide and split China causing internal conflict. Xi Jinping is crushing them cause that's the threat. Remember, PLA Military is trained to fight Chinese people, not outside forces (remember Tiananmen?). The current climate in China is not good for humanity but China has few choices. Only bad options and the current is in some ways the best bad option there is.
@@Hamlet137475 Hamlet137475 Nice points. I think, though, that there's a fallacy a lot of people make in trying to rely too heavily on China's ancient history to explain or rationalize its current path or its potential future. I don't think that's right. Imagine trying to argue that democracy in France shouldn't work because France had historically always been an unstable country prone to regional fractionalism for well over a thousand years (which is true history - from the establishment of the Merovingian Dynasty in 496 AD until after World War II, France was often a huge mess). Yet, France is only one of the first testing grounds of modern democracy and arguably one of the most successful. I don't think Chinese culture is incompatible with democracy or human rights, as we have Taiwan as a near-perfect example of Chinese democracy. Of course, Taiwan's circumstances are very different, being much smaller than the mainland and in a much more favorable geographic position, but it just goes to show that it's not Confucian influence or any sort of cultural rigidity standing in the way. I don't think China is nearly as weak as its leaders fear it is, either. It's just the latest round of corrupt, power-hungry rulership that's weak, and just like every other presently functioning democracy, China can start somewhere. What would Chinese democracy look like? I see some CCP shills on Quora trying to answer this question by ridiculing Western democracy, spouting off official talking points that Chinese democracy cannot and will not be Western democracy, all the while never really answering the question. What they fail to see is that democracy has never been a one-size-fits-all model. France took inspirations from the United States, but French democracy is not American democracy. Both are also very different from German democracy, and British democracy. Nobody anywhere believes China needs to copy the US model, or the Taiwanese model, or any other model. CCP shills also love to compare China with India, whose population is nearly as large as China's, which despite having a functioning democratic system in place, is still riddled by poverty and disorder - Everything the Chinese don't want. China is not and never has been India, however, and those who bring up India tend to focus too heavily on the one commonality - a huge population - While overlooking the differences, namely that India is a country that did not exist as a singular, cohesive culture with a long history of unification the way China has. India was built from the ground up from British rule, and in many ways, it's still being built. This brings me to the point you made about China's many ethnic groups, I'd like to point out that this isn't that big a challenge to China's cohesion. The only problematic ethnic groups are the two on the furthest fringes - The Uyghurs and the Tibetans. China has done a good job in solidifying an ethnic Han identity that is proud to be "Chinese," despite huge regional and dialectical differences within this group. The minorities of the south and the northeast are also relatively happy to be part of China from what I understand, and even if they hypothetically weren't, as a small portion of ethnic Mongols are not, their populations are dwarfed by their Han neighbors. You also have minorities like the Kazakhs and Koreans who have "their own" independent homelands elsewhere and are more than welcome to leave if they don't like it. It's just the Uyghurs and Tibetans, really, at the far western ends of China, that cause problems today.
20th century National (Aryan German) Socialism of 1920s-30s to rejuvenate the German Nation 21st century National (Han Chinese) Socialism of 2020s-30s to rejuvenate the Chinese Nation. Is history going to repeat itself? Hope not.
AMG Xpat no the Germans were economically confident and military ready to invade Europe. In a lot of ways, they were in fact superior than their neighboring countries. It was not an illusion, it was factual. CCP on the other hand is as fragile as a paper tiger, it’s military is built only to crackdown on its own powerless citizens, not combats. Its building the biggest illusion the world has ever seen.
@@sunwm2003 If you make out your enemy to be less human than you , that is the way governments (Dynasties) get people to do evil (to them it's righteous) acts. War isn't man vs man anymore, it is technology vs technology and propaganda vs propaganda as it has always been.
Simon, you're incredibly mature for someone of your age. This is the first time I've heard someone from China speak like that. It seems that I had been having the stereotyped view of Chinese. I hope you'll stay safe where you are for expressing your honest thoughts freely.
He will become the future Gorbachev the end of CCP rule if he is made president . You can even see he is concerned about the present governing system .
Thanks for your bravery. I think a lot of people commenting about the weaknesses of the AI example on the last video understand the reference you were making, and commented about the AI when really they aren't talking about that example, they're saying both the AI and that system have the same weaknesses.
I think his AI example is like idealised version of current system, the point being even with the perfect decision making it still wouldn't be acceptable for a lot of people let alone with human agents.
Rebecca, Most of us young are to easily swayed , with no experience , not fully developed our simian minds on how world really operates... if populace are educated and rational, that time for it.
I spoke to number of expat, said they routed to memorizing in all subject matter, that all i know. As to above i talking about most , whether they are chinese or american... the young are still naive ...
Great video as always, Simon really "gets it"..and those same Chinese-Americans who say "China is not ready" are also implying: "even though I came to the US and could enroll in a good university, and could get a good paying job as something other than a Mandarin teacher, or could open a business if I wanted and could own a house and could own a car and could get citizenship and could vote in elections etc I DON'T THINK AMERICANS SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THOSE SAME THINGS IN CHINA"
I like your bike analogy, the only problem with it is that nobody asked the mother if she wanted her child to ride a bike. She tells the child, "you will be ready when you have learned to ride", but in reality she doesn't want her child riding bikes in the first place. Riding a bike means exploring, meeting new friends, gathering new ideas, and then questioning his own upbringing to that of his friends. If he never learns to ride a bike, he will always have to rely on his mother and what his mother tells him. Now I'm going to change the analogy for my next example, so instead of riding a bike, the child is learning how to swim. If the child never learns to swim, they will always be cautious around water. As an adult standing near a pool, the now grown child says, "I never learned, and now I have no interest in learning. I have done plenty well for myself and made it this far without swimming, why would I learn now?" He avoids any situations involving swimming or where he might have to swim. His happy place at the beach is in the sand, not in the water. This is our mainland child. The Hong Kong child (now an adult), did learn to swim but only in the shallow end. He wants to do everything in his power to learn how to swim in the deep end, but none of his mainland friends agree with him. As none of them have learned to swim, they think it is silly to try and learn this late in the game. They have no concept of the shallow end, so imagining the deep end is just terrifying. Now the two are on vacation together in the Caribbean. Hong Kong wants to take a boat tour of the beautiful reefs and go swimming in the shallow water. Mainland wants nothing to do with this. Hong Kong tells Mainland that he doesn't have to go swimming and can stay in the boat, but Mainland refuses. He can't swim AT ALL, and being in the boat threatens his life should it capsize. This is my best analogy of the situation. You're right, it's hard to come up with analogies rather than just say what you are actually thinking, but I did my best :D --- As for your friend who said China is not ready, the truth is, nobody is ever REALLY ready to learn how to swim. The difference here is that Hong Kong is asking to try in the shallow end, and all China sees is the deep end. They don't see the buildup of training and practice that is required to move from the shallow end to the deep end. They didn't watch their friends grab the walls to hold themselves up for a few lessons... All they saw was Michael Phelps setting records for fastest laps and they said FUCK THAT. The people of mainland China are ready for the shallow end, but the overprotective mother that is the government wants her child to have nothing to do with it. The reality of the situation is this: learning to swim doesn't mean you throw away your mother. Exploring the ocean doesn't mean throwing away your mother. What it means is that your mother has to adjust how she treats you and raises you, and she isn't ready for that. She could adapt if she wanted to, but she has no interest changing the way she treats you. She will forever look at you as the child she raised, even now as the successful adult you are. Sorry for the long-winded analogy, if it doesn't make sense I apologize haha. In any case, keep up the great work, always love tuning in and watching every one of your videos, even if I don't make a super long comment below! :D
And , being pushed by outsider to quickly buy into it, as only benefit outsider, , and to get on quickly without or with bad instructions or con him to buy into bad bike without brakes will only lead to diasterous effect, that when supervision is necessary by parent... mwbahahaaaasses
I think he has good life in China. He just cares about people who suffer from having no rights . It is sad to see what happened th-cam.com/video/mkSJ_2hXnh8/w-d-xo.html
The lines, ‘China is not ready yet’ and ‘there are too many people’ are not good excuses at all. The Chinese people I associate with in Perth, Australia 🇦🇺 have no problems adjusting, they prosper very well under our system. Needless to say Taiwan 🇹🇼 does extremely well for its size. India 🇮🇳 is only just behind the number of people in China 🇨🇳 and they have a pretty good democratic republic. It seems more likely that the ccp just don’t want to let go of their authoritarian power. I hope that one day our Chinese friends will be able to enjoy the freedoms we take for granted in the West. Thank you for your vlog, take care.
This seems like a discussion for Chinese, between Chinese. What strikes me though is that many Chinese will not be able to even participate in that discussion, seeing as they don't have legal access to TH-cam to see this.
Sure. But yet another much lost dimension here is, then, what if that discussion were given space to be allowed but comes to a consensus that is at variance with both the existing Chinese status quo _AND_ also which has agreed to deep value conflicts with "universal" - which actually are very culturally situated western and rooted in violence in their own way - values such that if it is to be implemented it would also lead to similar "condemnation" from those hegemonic institutions? We see an example of this, for example, with another country, Rwanda, which has made a very pointed law banning a sizeable chunk of the "freedom of assembly" even while it allows for more free _speech_ than China does, that _its people_ support as a necessary measure given the internal genocide it faced. Should they as a collective have that "right" to proscribe such from their individuals? If not, why not? Who decides, by what method and why does that method have legitimacy to remain supreme? Too much seems to be accepted as "givens" here on all sides and there's too little contact I find between the people that need to have contact with each other and yet I have little power to bring it about.
@@mike4ty4 I really can't tell what you are advocating for here, but it seems predicated on the assumption that an open conversation will lead to a agreed upon situation where all involved accept and live with. I personally think that it is superfluous to speculate on the impact of such a discussion on a platform that most people who would be affected are legally not allowed to access.
@@LostInThe0zone Well, if not a consensus, then at least insofar as it would/wouldn't come to inform politics, then the scenario I was suggestion would be that the direction of politics that results would at least in major ways be of the sort I described. I guess what I'm saying is how much room is there in this world for deep cultural diversity versus - esp. western - hegemony & global tokenism.
If I'm not mistaken, Simon has mentioned in another vlog that China has quite a number of platforms (Youku etc) where her citizens actually debate very actively. Anyone from any part of the world has access to those platforms. Just that they happen to debate very actively in Mandarin. So I suppose being multilingual will be beneficial for those who wish to participate in those debates. of course, I do stand to be corrected.
The people who live comfortably at the moment are obviously never gonna be prepared to risk the change in social dynamics that might see them very much worse off if there is any change to the current status.
I am from Australia and have been doing business in china for over 5 years the up take of VPN has been very large in the last few years there are now a lot of bicycle riders in china and a lot more learning their mothers would be proud of them I not only do business in China I now have family in china and I have seen the changes taking place in the last 5 years In my own mind I do believe china would benefit greatly if it would let the people ride their bicycles over 100 million people have already learnt how to ride and are teaching other people how to ride
So I was sent by Serpentza and after watching server videos of yours, I was really impressed by how you could have such an open minded logic when talking about all the Chinese issues while you've never really lived in any democratic countries. I've met so many many many Chinese people in the US, who live in the US and enjoy all the freedom while telling me how much they love China and Taiwan should be apart of China and how China is perfect in every single aspect. They would always say, yes China is xxx but thats because xxx. They can think of any BS reason to rationalize all the dumb shits that CCP is doing. I really don't want to phrase it this way but so many of them have been brainwashed to all have the same logic. It's actually amazing in a way. I always think it's funny when people say shit about democracy and all the cons of the democratic system because nothing is perfect including democracy. However, theres no freaking way dictatorship is better than democracy. Freedom of speech sucks sometimes, but it's still way better than having none. Freedom of the dark & crazy internet sucks sometimes but it's still better than having restricted access and only being able to see what your government allow you to see. I live in Taichung so hit me up next time you're in town! Kudos to you for having the courage to speak up and wanting a better live while under such circumstances.
owleyes Malignaggi it is true that westerns have more freedom than Chinese, but you are not as free as you think you are. Try being an influential person telling dark secrets about the government, they will come after you if they feel threatened. A lot of people died in a shady way or got locked up in the past for exposing the government.
@@mojito4493 being rich and wealthy is great weather you are in the US, China, or North Korea, but I would rather be poor in the US than rich in North Korea... why? Freedom. The truth is it is much better to be poor but free than poor and under a dictatorship. Even if that dictatorship promises to take care of the poor, there is no way to hold that government accountable if there is no freedom of speech.
@@liuxiaobo4838 what are people fighting over if they didn't have opposite views? People are ready when they can discuss or debate, agree to disagree, not use violence to settle disputes.
@@sword7872 That's common sense. Aren't comments from wumao gangs and "patriotic societies" orchestrated by CCP's liaison office or state media reflecting views of real life citizens?
@@liuxiaobo4838 i detect that you already have a bias by calling people wumao whenever they make a comment that is not in line with your thinking. Why name calling? Why can I not have a different point of view?
Great video. We know it is hard not to speak freely so you don't get in trouble. Hope the Chinese leaders will not take violent measures to stop the peaceful protests in Hong Kong. Both sides need to talk instead before things get out of hand.
Your bike analogy is exactly correct. WHEN will Chinese people be ready for freedom? Who determines that? Why are Chinese people OUTSIDE of Mainland China ready and enjoying their freedoms but Chinese within the Mainland cannot?
Cynthia - I remember 1989 and I was really touched by what I saw. I have also looked at the history of China including the president’s family history. Don’t worry I have looked at America’s history as well as my own personal history. I am still looking at American and myself and other countries as well and individuals - we have so much in common - it is so beautiful and amazing 🙏🏾💜
I am an Indonesian of Chinese ancestry. I have gone through a tyrant government, the Suharto cronies and family, you can check out their biography through Wikipedia, he was the most corrupted president in the 90s according to Forbes. Restrictions on free speech and unlawful snatching of the citizens lands were rampant during his rule of 30 years. Nobody dared to challenge and criticize him as he controlled the military, a lot of politicians and journalists went missing or found dead during his tenure. He also banned all Chinese descendants to practice and learn Chinese language in schools and using Chinese characters in public and shops. Fortunately he was toppled in 98 after students demonstration and blood. And we the Chinese also fell into victim again during the riot as there was no army or police whatsoever, which a lot of Indonesians know he controlled and deliberately let the chaos happened. I live in Shanghai and I have this eerily feeling when I seen news of activists missing or jailed without proper trial, and the reeducation camps and excessive control of the Chinese gov. over Xinjiang. Because this has happened to me.
I'm also from +62, I know this is your post from 5 months ago, but do you really live in China? the ethnic cleansing propaganda comes from ASPI, you better be careful not to spread rumors carelessly. It is ironic that living in China can still be deceived by western propaganda.
@@SimonYu you should get out of Mainland China fast and fulfill your dream to be a USA citizen. I mean, since you hate China and the CPC, then just migrate to the USA who has the least Covid-19 cases in the world.
Hi Simon bravo to another insightful and honest video :) Keep it up! You are such an adorable guy! Wow I didn't know you live in Shanghai too. I will be living here and working here until the end of June 2020. Too bad we never got to meet I would have loved to pick your brain more about so many other issues. Anyhow, stay the awesome person you are and thanks for maintaining a good representation of the everyday Chinese person.
Freedom in the real world is getting a real job, buying an apartment to live, paying for food , rates, taxes, buying car, maintaining that car, health insurance, looking after family, feed , clothe, paying off a 30 year mortgage for the rest of your natural life, worrying if you will get the sack or not. that is REAL FREEDOM mr YU. no matter what country you live. are you ready?
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很喜歡看你的理論，我也是土生土長的中國人，現住海外，所以很了解國內國外的生活環境和文化背景，你是我少見過擁有大智慧的中國人！！👍
“Actually she’s in the US so she doesn’t have to give up any of her own rights.” Hahaha!!!! A moment of extreme clarity.
Haha, yeah, and also to the argument talked about in the video saying that Chinese people aren't ready for democracy, well...what is Taiwan then but a country filled with ethnic Han Chinese that have a democracy? 😂
Put simply, she is just an ignorant person under Survivorship Bias. She grown up in a pretty nice family environment, under the brainwashed propaganda she just lost her mind because losing the whole picture of the country. If every stratum can feel the inequalities, the country is of cause unstable. She is just a lucky one, only luck she has.
Christian de la Mare Also, Simon should interview Xu Jinping daughter in the US (living and studying under a pseudonym ). Just shows you how hypocritical the Chinese “leader” is.
Christian Bai It is kind of ridiculous that Simon is even questioning if the Chinese are ready? He’s been to Taiwan and it’s painful that he doesn’t mention Taiwan through out this WHOLE video, but at the same time he seems to “self censorship “. This is obvious and he should know better.
@@TesterBoy How is that hypocritical, the US has some of the greatest universities in the world as a practical father why wouldn't you want your kids to study at the most prestigious ones.
I have seen,that you introduce youself as an average chinese guy. But actually you are terribly wrong. YOU are OUTSTANDING.
Have you passed my words which I have leaved last time in your clip to your wife,that she has been marrying a wonderful guy?
I am very glad and also proud that your wife is a Taiwanese, too. As a Taiwanese, I am so 與有榮焉！
ANTONY König I did! Thank you Antony!
It's not whether or not China is ready; it is which is a better system. From what I see, China has a better system than that of the US.
ANTONY König you are not average my friend ! I do agree with you that Chinese people need that bike !
@@SimonYu I don't understand your videos tbh, you very confusing person or just a person who is confused in life
You're really different from the majority of Chinese from the mainland.! You're open-minded, having your own thoughts, and respect others’ viewpoints. And this is why I love your videos and have subscribed your channel. Good luck to you and I expect to watch more of your videos.
你们说这种话的同时想过没有，既然你们口口声声说言论自由信仰自由，那又为什么排斥嘲笑别人的言论和信仰和认知？
黄cedar ？你在说谁？谁排斥嘲笑了其他人的言论，信仰，和认知？
And you speak fluent English. I can easily understand what you are saying. Others should learn to speak English fluently as well. How old are you? You look so young...and handsome too. 🙂✌
@@lindafiske7909 : Just curious, have you learned or attempted to learn another language ?
If everyone was more like him people would get along
我是台商在上海25年、住古北、已退休回台。刚你同學有一觀点:犧牲点自由換取經濟。台灣刚好相反、為民主与自由放棄点經濟。這是價值觀。遇到的時候那個在前面。
姜还是老的辣，这个年轻人也许可以从您那里学到一些看问题的角度
@@koenigamd 在那時間長了、必有理解。主要是那個体制太負面了。
大陸人會喜歡他的說法，而他自己的立場是有點忌憚 ? 還是打從心裡不由自主的真言 ? 我想他自己也以不清楚了呢 ? 無法抽身以別的角度來評論
Your channel is amazing! Please be strong
說得很中肯， 就和防火牆一樣， 有人說是為了保護裡面的人， 也有人說是為了保護外面的人， 但是沒把牆拆掉誰知道到底是裡面的人受傷還是外面人受傷呢？
經常聽他們說把經濟搞好了再來搞人文素質， 搞民主言論自由， 但是連最基礎的學習過程都沒有，又怎麼可能學得會呢~
而當人民抗議的時候， 所採用的方法卻從來都沒有妥協， 也許發展初期用這種方法會進步的非常快， 如今這卻成了牽制。
軍政時期， 訓政時期， 憲政時期， 目前是哪一個時期呢？
中共是時候向下一步走了。
你有沒有搞錯？軍政，訓政，憲政是中華民國在立國之初，就訂下的發展步驟，中共是盜國賊，它們的說法叫無產階級專政，只有這一個時期直到永遠，其他的說法都是騙人的。
@@过来人 大兄啊~我是以這三種為比喻罷了，不是說中共真的在走的是這種路線啊，中共也在變，不然怎麼會出現經濟特區嘛，所以囉~別誤解了~
走下一步是指他們再來要怎麼變，你看昨天他們不就出了一個新的改革策略了嗎~我們看著他們怎麼變，是骨子裡變或是換湯不換藥的變吧~
@@zhongtung6532 我是从大陆来的，对它们那一套了解的很清楚，保持专制是它们的根本利益，永远不会变的，中美贸易协议为什么签不了，就因为美国的要求动了它们的根本。邓小平的改革开放并不表示共党有改变,只是经济被老毛搞垮了，邓要利用资本主义的钱，技术提高中国经济去保党，懂了这些，以后共党的任何变化都可看懂了。
各國目標不同，他們正在建設一個窮到只剩下錢的國家啊
以前没墙的时候大家还是好好的，墙起了10年左右，现在人都怕拆墙了，温室里吊久了变玻璃心。
One is only ready for freedom when it’s cost is worth paying. Freedom is never free. When enough common people are willing to pay the price, freedom will be achieved.
Year, agreed, the price for American freedom is over 6 million infected and 180K+ people dead by the covid-19. Well done! Anyway, keep going, we are having party at Wuhan right now.
Guess who's fault it is that the virus got to the US in the first place?
@@jamesyang2501 Nobody. If you want to point out is the person itself. Don't say you have blaming mentality.
@@tkcha888 do you have an honest and accurate number of how many people died from Covid 19 in Wuhan ? If so, it is hard to imagine how you could party over that~
@@y2wong2013 Real number? haha, you know the real numbers? tell me. I just know China Wuhan only lock-down for 4 months, then people return to normal life, I just know China is the only large economic growth in 2020, I just know the Chinese Foreign Direct Investment suppressed US in year 2020. I just know all people around me they are happy traveling inside China. What's the real number? If you don't know, shut your FxxK month up then.
You would make a better American than many current Americans.
True most Americans are entitled losers we need replacements
If only politicians would be responsible as he said.
So far political correctness are gone to the trashbags. Literally went to shits.
While more and more country have leaders that are populism and doesn't care about the country.
There are also free media that claim to be "news reporters" spreads hateful and terrorists thought.
How can China ever be ready.
Democracy and vote rights are a powerful weapon, and like all weapons like firearms the users/voters carry the responsibility.
What happens to the country is the people's responsibility. China just help you carry the responsibility.
Your votes can do more harms than the guns.
If you ask if China can allow the sales of firearms. It's probably will cause a mayhem.
Its never good to introduce arms to an unarmed states.
Same as democracy, it's easy to demolish the socialism-democratic system, but it will be impossible to reintroduce it.
And America is a trial run for China to introduce democracy. So as with the current democracy in America its impossible.
But China have its own way of democracy.
Huawei would be great for America as well
Id swap him for lots of British people too
不是因为结果才去努力 而是因为努力才会结果 这是香港人教会我的
@@wowlikeful 努力不一定會成功，重點是不能放棄努力
@@wowlikeful 笑死，流氓國給出的教訓當圭臬來奉嗎？
我覺得中國人還沒準備好的想法其實是現在的中國掌權集團的宣傳造成的, 主因在於, 其實讓人民擁有權力其實是違反當前掌權者的利益的, 如果當權者的執政目標是永遠掌握權力, 愚民政策似乎是成本小收效大的做法. 由東歐共產集團垮台的例子就可以看出, 開放權力之後, 很少有共產黨可以持續掌權, 目前中國掌權者會想要避免這個狀況在中國實現, 如果宣傳的好就可以一直執政, 當權者沒必要去承受會失去政權的風險
ming-shing chen 其实事情有点复杂。中国大陆官媒宣传策略是 不认可西方国家的那种民主 自称大陆有不同的一套民主制度。
@@四火-t6s 但是除了中國人外，沒人覺得那是民主~好弔詭
ray7453 我懂 我说了嘛 那是官媒的发言。 其实真的很奇怪 以前没有翻墙的时候 对大陆的很多政策和限制都很反感 在微博上的骂声一片 而翻墙后 接收到了各种不同的讯息 看到了不同角度的报道 现在对那些政策和限制都挺理解的 说真的 我还是挺支持部分政策和限制嗯。 看到我说的这些话 你是不是觉得又是一个被洗脑的大陆人 哈哈哈哈
四火 不會啊，畢竟這是經過你自身的體驗得來的，我不身在你處的國家跟環境，又怎麼能說你是錯的。
@@四火-t6s 我覺得我也很能理解大陸的限制和政策啊，中心目標就是維持政權穩定，為了權利中心，有部分犧牲是必須的。
但如果被犧牲的是自己呢？大部分人只是站著說話不腰疼罷了，畢竟中國那麼多人，也不一定自己那麼倒楣。
我想很多人都是這種心態，我過好我的日子就行，但今天，別人受到欺壓時，你不幫他，哪天輪到自己，也沒人會幫你，人民不團結，永遠只能當砧板上的魚肉。
As a Burmese who can express himself in Chinese in the Chinese way of thinking, I just wanna let you know, if I may, that you are a truly special Chinese. Love you bro. Keep up the good work.
公民社會確實需要長時間養成，由簡漸繁，也需輔以教育。臺灣摸索30年，一路上經濟並無崩潰社會秩序也正常，或許臺灣小，不像大陸各地差異大。若大陸能緩步開放從區政府開始，實行幾屆選舉區長議員，必能減少弊端官僚包庇。為人民服務得以落實而非空話。這也是華人之福，共和國進化的起點。
唉，但習近平他肯放嗎？光看他取消任期便可知其狼子野心，對權力慾望的追逐與收攏，祈禱他不要變成現代版的秦始皇就已經相當不錯了，怎能期盼他會願意將權力下放給人民，這根本無異於是緣木求魚，難如登天啊！最重要的是，從他取消任期確定通過的那一刻起，中國，就再也不能稱之為一個中華人民「共和國」了。
@@daselin7837 人不過百年，只好等年輕精英上台。會有這一天，只是最遲可能還要二十年。
Dase Lin 你觉得中国人民对社会教育有很深的了解吗? 这是一条很长的路，跟习没太大的关系。老一代都没什么文化，刚吃上飽饭，你却跟人说这个。
Frank Xue 我非常同意
@@MrBestard 我說這個主要也是想反映出台灣人與中國人在政治上、社會上、教育上的不同。既然你明白那能不能請你的國人先回去好好看看你們自己的國家有哪裡需要改進，台灣人也是這麼走過來的，該做的抗爭、該流的汗該流的血我們一滴也沒少過，你們呢？而不是過得比我們不如，卻一天到晚想把別人一起拉下水，我們不約，謝謝。
身為人類，最終都會有追求自由的渴望.....無論是自由於言論、自由於恐懼、自由於選擇~~~ 我看了很多中國的TH-camr向牆內喊話，很是感動! 我們常常用最後一哩路來勉勵我們自己要堅持下去，你們也是....大家一起加油 !!!!!
Simon: If I had a son and he possessed only a fraction of your wisdom and spirit, I would be the proudest father on the planet. Such a shame but hardly surprising that the authorities are now starting to crack down on you and your family, please keep safe. (Greetings from an old grumpy German living in the UK, who deeply loves Chinese and Taiwanese culture.)
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" is a quote often heard regarding governments in the West. I would say any institution that has no oversight is in danger of perpetuating the acquisition of power itself as the ultimate goal. Limiting the flow of information is a time proven way of retaining power. An ill informed populace is much easier to control than one that is offered alternative views. The ability to limit access to information is a policy that the CCP has become a world leader at. This policy is very attractive to repressive regimes around the world and no doubt will become an important export from China. I don't know what the future of China holds, but it couldn't hurt to be looking for alternative possibilities in other areas of the globe. Good luck to you and thanks for offering an insight into daily life in China.
Jfk and eisenhower and bush senior speeches are very telling were our us is heading ?
@@littlemoutha9998 I'm afraid you have left me confused. Care to elaborate on your post?
Your first post talks about ^power tends to corrupt...^ and in my post those 3 us presidents speeches talks about direction of us is heading for good or bad, but its seems ominous as these ex presidents are conveying to american people of direction we are heading.
@@littlemoutha9998 ..... Although I am familiar in general with the presidents you mentioned, I don't know specifically what vision for a future USA they may have had in common.
Two warns and one for full spectrum dominance of earth and space, on the path for sure.
mwbahahahaaaaa
既得利益者永遠不想釋出他們的利益，如次而以
更可怕的是既得利益者裡面，利用道德綁架，鼓動愛國熱血新生代，煽動爭紛，讓這些利益既得者的後代，以此來抹除這些未來對手，在背後擷取功績榮耀，用著人民鮮血來澆灌他們的家族，骨肉成為他們的養分。
历史上既得利益者能长久的过下去吗？
同感，看看那些八百壯士的作為就知道了。
@王雅鈴 看你说的中国爱国的都是被洗脑的傻子，你大概就是被这么洗脑的。你去中国看看你口中的奴隶过得什么样的生活，比你一定好的多。当自己国家的奴隶好过当美国日本的奴隶，特别是你们这种当了奴隶还不自知的。太可怜了
@王雅鈴 我的天啊，你说都好偏激啊你了解事情的整体原由吗，你们的媒体都是裁割性报道吧，你们台湾人真的井蛙很多诶，我说这些可不是爱什么党爱上国。还把学生送个非洲人做三陪呢，你看到他们上床了吗？你看到过当事人出面说的事情缘由了吗？人总是永远相信自己想相信的事情。
只能給你一個讚了！
我聽過更多的理由是「中國太大，人太多，實行民主會亂」。
真想不通到底是政府給的恐懼訊息還是自己為這個獨裁找理由！
你可以参考苏联，分家后现在哪个国家的人民感觉到富有呢？
叶jack 您能去問問現在從蘇聯解體後的許多國家人民，哪一個願意回到獨裁統治的？甚至許多國家還制訂反共產法呢
另外，有錢太可怕了，大家一定會亂搞，飽暖思淫慾，所以大家全部還是窮點好，尤其大陸人多，民族多，每天大家都想東想西還能不亂嗎？
另外，其實台灣一點也不亂，第二，您應該也屬於那族群的一部份！
@@jack-sy2pl 事實上，俄羅斯人真的比以前蘇聯時代更富裕啊，以前蘇聯時代成什麼樣，錢都拿去研發武器
乌克兰挺好的 很民主 哈哈哈哈哈 请参考~
@@user-pd8wi4pd4n 你能问问乌克兰 每次搞颜色革命 选的总统怎么样
I love the bicycle analogy, great job!
I live in the US. I talked to a Chinese coworker 11 years ago about freedom, what she said was exactly like what your friend said - Chinese people don’t want (or not ready for) the freedom. I had the same thought and reaction like you had. I was shocked and thought why she could enjoy the freedom in the US yet, she thought her own people in China are not good or smart enough to have the freedom, or deserve the freedom? Was it because the Chinese government did a great job to brain wash people? I just don’t get it.
Anyways, love your videos.
Myra Chen You should learn Chinese history and culture. People grow up from his own history and culture.
Also, What if the kid has disabilities? Or the kid lived in mid century ? He will never be able to learn. Google this”王侯将相宁有种乎”， it is what 90% Chinese people believe. It means everyone can be the king. Imagine millions of people are fighting for a crown. Lol. If you give them freedom it means chaos.
If you have been fighting for a leadership in China, you will understand .
Also, China actually have vote in those country-side villages. Many Chinese farmers vote for their villages leader. But those leaders never give people freedom. Some small villages leader even forcing the marriage. And their villages rules sometime are more powerful than police power.
And there are 50% of Chinese are still living poor villages and 30% ppl just move into urban in less than 20years. And only less than 5% ppl have a chance to travel to the western world. So most of Chinese mind are very old and tradition. And you want government give them a westernized democracy? I bet at least 70% of Chinese will be confused. Just look at Taiwan, even them are still learning and messed up.
Always remember this, western world has been developed in modern way for more than 200years, but China just started at 1979. More than that, the culture is totally different at beginning, Chinese are from farmers, but western are from business.
Search for Eric Li and Zhang Wei Wei in TH-cam and they will tell you why democracy is not form China. Can democracy truly buy happiness? Can free speech fill a person's empty stomach? Compare America and China. How many people has the US alleviated from poverty? And how people has China alleviated from poverty. How is the infrastructure in US and how is the infrastructure in China? BTW, China had the most bullet trains. America spent their tax payers money on military because they want to be number one. Who suffer?
China should go back Also to Its Root philosophy and rich culture of the past such as confusian teaching and slowly leave the marxist idea that is Western product
when you heard lot of people saying the same thing. maybe it's not brainwash, it's the reality.
Actually it may be the opposite: people who are not given any freedom learn to behave very irresponsibly and selfishly, because someone else makes the big decisions for them ...
I'm from the USA and I can tell you that you fight for your freedom to do with your life what you choose. You are a grown man if you are not hurting anyone you should be free. God bless I hope things are getting better for you all. ❤️🇺🇸❤️🙏🏽
He has freedom. That's why you can hear him talk on TH-cam.
看到一個人均GDP將近我們2倍的地方
抗爭成這樣，
那些一直強調拼經濟就可以解決一切的人，
可不可以解釋一下？
（人身自由+金錢+言論自由）*主權「在民」
= 我們可以享有的生活方式
主權不屬於人民所有，
那我們手上擁有的一切，
都是建立在沒有根基的浮萍上，
國家（黨）說沒收，你就是沒有，
抗議也沒用，
香港百萬人上街，抗爭了這麼久，政府有理過他們嗎？
只想賺錢，其他不想管，覺得跟自己沒關係，
那跟只顧吃飼料，其他都管不著的豬，
有什麼不一樣？
拿主權換飼料的結果，
就是最後你只想（只能）一直吃一直吃，
至於農場主人什麼時候把你抓去殺，
什麼時候把你小孩賣掉，
你也是無能為力的⋯⋯
Y J 你看問題也太簡單了，只要有抗爭就應該有讓步嗎。
sky dark 這個問題本來就很簡單，政府是人民的公僕，上百萬香港人出來抗爭，要是在民主國家ㄧ定會讓步，極權國家就是找藉口抹黑然後恐嚇鎮壓。
不然這樣簡單的問題你覺得要怎麼處理？你說的出來處理方式嗎？
@@skydark6982 你看到的是專制國家的情形。
抗议游行的人到底有多少啊，各说各的，一百万游行的话那就能代表主流民意了，要是像香港警方说的小几十万那不能代表大多数民意。
leo xu
這個問題更簡單了。極權政府以人數少來抹黑爭取權益的人是暴政的表現。
其實可以訴求直接民權，舉辦公民投票就解決了。不用暴力也不流血，全民公投的結果可以讓人數少的一方閉嘴，若是真的如港警所說的小幾十萬，那麼就不要怕，大大方方的舉辦公民投票，因為數字會說話。
永遠的不會準備好，只有開始去做才會慢慢磨合，慢慢進步，等公民監督機制建立，就像結婚沒有一開始就合適一輩子的人，會有吵架、摩擦最終找到合適的方法
WTF?
@Maverick 然後臺灣人均收入依然是中國的3倍，呵呵
說的好！
@Maverick 你還真瞎眼,台灣百萬人到中國工作,是在台灣人開設的工廠工作,管理什麼都不懂的中國工人,這還需要用腦袋思考嗎?沒有台灣和外資去中國設廠,創造中國人民的工作機會,中國會有今天的經濟嗎???人的可憐不在於不知,而在無知
Maverick 一堆外企出逃中國，你就繼續驕傲自大當三毛🤣🤣
腳踏車的比喻我覺得很好，沒有準備不準備好的問題，這是一個矛盾的邏輯。
我只能說中國大陸現在還是經濟成長的時期，所以人民對政府的滿意度很高，對經濟成長的關注可以忽視或漠視其他不足的地方，這是一件好事，雙方沒有衝突。但是經濟成長必定會走向趨緩的一天，而人民富足一種程度後會有進一步的需求，民主體制來說政府與人民發生衝突往往雙方會有更有相容性一些，而專制的政權下人民和政府發生衝突更容易有悲劇發生。
所以結論就是你急也急不來，每個文明都有它發展的時間，順應自然之道才是最好。
What you say is very thoughtful, and I believe, accurate.
You are not an ordinary Chinese guy. You have a brilliant mind and posted the first comment that I have discovered in TH-cam to FB. Your comment is so compelling . Although I am a 68 year-old Chinese/American lived in HK 5 decades ago, been naturalized citizen, with decades of years between us, we have the same mindset.
The person whom you addressed with the certain mindset is a majority in the Chinese community living in America the last 15 years. They are quite different from the Chinese who came in 1965 and after. I’ve been warned by a Chinese friend not to rock the boat if I want to continue my business affiliation. You friend has no idea the freedom she’s enjoying and perhaps taken for granted, will soon be lost and our Republic were almost lost had not Trump became our president. We are struggling here to keep our freedom from eroding away. The Swamp Creatures: Media, educational system are controlled by the Leftist. The Conservatives finally woke up. And we’re almost too late, but there’s much, much more to do. I know I am speaking in general but that’s all the time I have at the moment.
To get back at the topic of this video comment of yours, I don’t have much hope that the people of Hong Kong would get the freedom you once enjoyed.because I know how CCP thinks. There will be much bloodshed and much sacrifices you’ll have to take. On a positive note, The kind of sacrifices our Forefathers took. Have you seen the movie with Mel Gibson, Patriots? It’s the kind of sacrifice our forefathers had to fight. I pray for you and Hong Kong, and may you be safe.
人家常多一句話:永遠沒有所謂準備好的一天
台灣目前還需要大概一個世代的更替也就是大概在二十年
才有機會真正擺脫舊時代的老人政治
有一個年輕世代的新政治環境
而中國現在正在發生的整體狀況
有點像是台灣二十年前一路走過來所經歷過的歷程
這樣的比較不是要比誰優誰劣
而是期待大約在四十年或六十年後的後代年輕人
丟掉老人包袱
重新為中國與台灣定義一個新的關係
不要再用舊時代思想去硬要把彼此的關係綁在一起
已經不是家人又何必強求與恐嚇
放手祝福對方
大家就好好當鄰居當朋友不是很好
戰爭只會死掉更多無辜的人
如果侵犯者不放棄這樣的念頭
最後自己也將自食惡果
所以只能期待再過個一甲子
中國年輕世代有足夠的自由意識去讓中國成為地球上的和平自由開放愛好者而非麻煩製造者
你真是天真，在中共這種盜國賊頭腦裡是沒有什麼新舊思想和時代的，就像生意人要賺錢發財，這種觀念至少超過兩千年，你說是舊思想還是新思想？金家王朝已是第三代，有比以前好些嗎？盜國賊控制下的人民就是它手中的籌碼，只要能贏，多放些籌碼又算什麼呢！
@@过来人 不光说老共啊，老美还不是打压敌对势力。一切都是为了利益。老共打不过苏联所以那些国土就不要了；香港岛是割让的，九龙和新界是租约，老共打的过英国所以就收回来了。美国是民主国家吧，还不是为了利益在世界上搞来搞去，美国大兵也死了不少唉。当年为了拉拢大陆对抗苏联，还不是和台湾断交。台湾人民要抛弃幻想，统一台湾是赤裸裸的利益在后面。
@@leoxu6411 [一切都是为了利益]，這是一種普遍的糊塗想法；人活於世都要為利益，就是修行的人也是為了來世的利益，但是也要分個是非，善惡，不是嗎？打工，做生意，偷搶騙，販毒，做雞，都是為了錢，它們都一樣嗎？蘇聯是老共的爹，所以要送土地給它； 港.九.台灣與它制度不同，也許你會說這有什麼關係呢？比方說，你家鄰居小孩吃香喝辣，你小孩要撿破爛，你會想,我要好好賺錢，培養小孩；如果你是個土霸王，你會想，他*的，我一定要把他們的錢財都搶過來，是嗎？這就是價值觀不同，會產生不同的想法和做法； 美國從雷根以後的那些總統都以為中共可以改邪歸正，現在才發現是農夫救了一條蛇，川普總統對這點認識很清楚，中華民國才是美國的真正盟友，記住這一點。
@@过来人 中华民国不是美国的真正盟友，只是美国的旗子而已，70年代为了对抗苏联美国和大陆建交让大陆进入联合国，台湾要研发原子弹也被美国叫停，陈水扁要独立也被美国称为麻烦制造者，以后保不准美国为了其它利益再出卖一次台湾。
@@leoxu6411 如果你從美國內部歷史的角度來看這些問題就可能看得更清楚些，基本上美國總統都不是什麼有雄才大略，戰略眼光的人，他們的很多決策都受到謀士，智庫和民意的影響；二戰開始時他也沒參戰，還跟日本做生意，直到日本偷襲珍珠港，才參戰；美國內也受到共產思潮的影響和滲透，影響了總統的決策，中華民國在大陸的失敗也有這方面的因素；看韓戰，越戰，美國根本不知道他的敵人是怎麼回事；反恐戰爭也是這樣；雷根以後的那些總統，受地緣政治理論的影響，又以為中共能改邪歸正，就被中共牽著鼻子走；川普在年輕時就關注了共產黨的問題，看到近幾十年美國經濟被中共蠶食國勢日落，就出來競選總統，拯救美國，這也是神交給他的使命；順便說一句：共產黨是魔鬼，人是不可能戰勝它的，只有依靠神的力量才能把它滅掉；川普總統已徹底看清中共的邪惡，在這方面郭文貴先生做了大量的工作，說不定哪一天美國要改正以前的錯誤，重新與中華民國建交，也是有可能的。
腳踏車例子舉得很好，希望中國哪天能覺醒，去爭取應該有權利，而不是抱著嘲笑的心情去看待這件事
然而在中国更广大的地方，更多时候妈妈会说对不起妈妈没有钱买，或者小女孩只能对她的奶奶说，然后奶奶说：什么是脚踏车？在你们侃侃而谈自由时，一定想像不到真实中国甚至真实的世界是什么样子的。我举另一个比喻，不到一岁的小女孩嗷嗷大哭，她妈妈说别哭了别哭了，这时候有个路人看见了就说，她有哭的自由你不能打压她，还说以后也要每天盯着你不能欺负小宝宝，然后这位义士转头就跟朋友说，你看那对一身破烂脏兮兮的母女，太不文明了。。。
@@hongtianyi 👍
@@hongtianyi 如果這老媽因為小女孩哭了拿布袋彈轟暴小女孩的眼球我想路人會盯著這老媽也是很正常。這老媽根本喪心病狂
這一身破爛髒兮兮的母女不是平常自鳴得意是超有錢土豪文明人家嗎?
@@gggrock4502 我们生活成长的环境不同，所思所想并不一样，你看的到或者你以为的是文明被破坏，而我这里的文明才将要慢慢建起，你看到了下坡，而我这里还在摸着滚着往上爬。你站在高处往下看，我已缓缓上追，你看到了我的不堪，我却也看到你立于乱流之中不自知
@@hongtianyi 應該是那個義士對別人說，那個媽媽虐待孩子，沒有人性，是文明社會不能接受的。
捷運、行動支付、高樓大廈、方便那算什麼國家強大😂
這一點小事就滿足了？
強大的根基不應該是建設，而是人民的價值、生命的價值
我更看重与人相处的时候，温柔友善。还有医疗保障。这两点。
其他摩天大楼什么的不强求。
如果你去看中国近代100年的屈辱史，你就会理解为什么我们要搞 基建搞经济。中国近代革命家用他们的生命和鲜血告诉我们：落后就要挨打。没有强大的实力时，外面的敌人是不会在意你的人民生命价值的。当人民连命都保不住的时候，谈什么都是没有意义的。这些年人民生活刚刚变好了一点。有些人就一样忘记了先辈的屈辱和牺牲了。年轻人的思维太过于理想，他们脑子的总是描绘着美好世界。但他们不知道世界从来都是残酷的，一直都是一个弱肉强食的世界。
Keep making these videos. You are a bright young man with wisdom. Blessed be your days.
Kid: Mom, if I'm not ready for the bike yet, can I watch another Cartoon other than the XXTV one ?
Mom: Hell no! Go back to your room!
說的很好，台灣的民主化過程中也是跌跌撞撞的，中間常有一些人說台灣人還沒準備好，但是---學騎腳踏車一定會跌倒的呀～
中華民國的憲法和國家制度早已制定好民主的框架和方向，人們只是不斷的完善它而已；中共國是完全相反的，它的憲法和制度是要確保共黨專制直到永遠，它關於民主的一些說法，那只是用來騙中國和世界人民的。
很简单
中国现在跌一跤
美国还会让你发展起来吗
台湾越来越烂了，倒是看出来了
我并不觉得台湾现在比以前好多少
看结果的话，台湾现在慢下来了，地位也不如以前了，我也是出国之后才看到西方世界对中国的仇恨有多大，觉得现在大陆是真的走在对的路上，真的是现在摔一跤，世界西方列强都会来踩一脚，到时候中国只会满目疮痍，体无完肤！这样的话难道台湾能好吗？
Thanks for your thoughts, I'm so so happy to hear from someone like you. Please, take care.
Many people are saying that too. China is a completely different culture. Well said and Keep it going
Simon, the bicycle analogy was so accurate and brilliant- your wisdom is a credit to your objective mind 😘👍🏿🇦🇺
I'm Chinese and I 100% agree with you Simon. As you grow up in life, you will have to take off the training wheels off someday else you'll be holding back the potential for success.
"For democracy to work, at least 60% of the population has to be educated" quote the late Lee Kwan Yew of Singapore.
A conversation with the elders, seniors in China like our parents and grandparents might give you a rough idea of how far we are from achieving that.
Although we have a generation of more knowledgeable youths now; youth hardly make even 30% of the demographics; don't mind taking away the less educated.
Change is inevitable however, with increasing knowledge and exposure as the nation improves; but it'll take some generations for real change.
Changes will come progressively only as people's lives improve and learn to better appreciate democracy. How long did the West took to achieve democracy?
Sudden changes towards democracy will only create chaos. I prefer the analogy of a baby learning to walk. Small baby steps. It's inevitable in time.
Our Lee is damn smart. Its a great loss that he passed away while mahathir is still healthy and around. damn.
Democratic countries can’t even make it work and for all their talk about democracy they seem to always think of clever ways to circumvent it. For example Americans are notorious for putting barriers on voting that disproportionately affects African Americans
US has democracy, and they voted for a lunatic president causing much instability of the world. Says alot.
Ps. I had been an advocate of democracy for the longest time, but now im realising its flaws as i mature.
Try google Eric Xi Li. LKY was right. What a nation need is not democracy, but meritocracy; or a system that finds the most competent honest people to be leaders. The general populace are easily swayed by free media, US is an example.
I understand your point and it does have validity. Still, just a little more freedom, gradually, and a little less brutality, would be a good place to start. But the CCP, unfortunately, is not interested in these things.
asia sushi still chinese go to the us for a better education. Trump is not good so vote again next time. How can i vote xi out?
Your logic is very clear, I appreciate your thoughts.
身為台灣人，你說出了我長久以來的疑問--為何總是在TH-cam 上看到中國知識分子留言說：民主很好、人權很好，可是那不適合我們？你們是在兩千多年前就說出“民為貴，社稷次之，君為輕”的中國人啊！
teresa wang 中共憲法有規定 他們是民主國家 你懂的
中共的選舉制度介紹
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然後選出終身制的領導人
th-cam.com/video/5v1KizGUJmE/w-d-xo.html
但是香港人希望的民主是這樣
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真的，即使是中國高級知識分子，我印象中他們多認為民主不適合中國。
我觉得这是你理解错误的问题吧，民主很好，人权也很好，但是每个地区每个国家对民主人权的理解不一样，西方的民主自由不是标尺，不要用西方世界的标尺去衡量中国的社会，这本身就是极大的错误。
@@有約大神 您的回答恰是另一種：西式民主不適合中國，西方人不要以自己的標準來衡量中國制度。
我不是西方人，我是讀中國歷史文化長大的台灣人。把人民的權利福祉做為優先是一個國家的根本。總是反過來要人民犧牲自己的權利來成就國家，這不是本末倒置嗎？難道國家的存在不是為了要保護人民幸福？
teresa wang 说的没错，把人民的福祉当做优先是一个国家的根本是对的，但是台湾的制度能保障所有人的利益吗？台湾的人民的权利是否又能全部得到保障呢？我不觉得有这么完美的一个制度，但是中国人深知没有国哪有家的道理，党派之争不会成为人民权利之争，只会成为财阀之争，变成美国利益的牺牲品。中国历史我会研究，世界历史我同样会去研究，美国有自身的利益需求，中国人不会愿意成为美国霸权主义的牺牲品。
Hitting the nail on head again!!! Your videos are amazing and you stand your ground. Keep it going!!!! You are doing great!!!! 😃
I can't believe the people live in mainland could develop this kind of mindset. You are awesome and thanks for making this video. This is from Hong Kong but I think we are in the same boat. People should deserve human right.
“还没准备好”是一个很有迷惑性的说辞，民主可以分步走，也可以有多种形式，包括人大代表制度，我觉得也挺合理性，但是现在的迹象却表明，ccp在打压任何民主的萌芽，我对和平走向民主持悲观态度，对此我有充分的理由，现在的政府和ccp有太多不能见光的阴暗角落，一旦民主，哪怕是最基础的民主，很有可能造成曝光，既得利益受损，也就是说ccp有太多的包袱，造成专制和民主不可调和的矛盾，个人觉得只有刚开始搞经济改革的时候，才是政治改革最好的时候，因为那个时候ccp还是相对纯洁的存在。然而，这个时机已经错过
现在国际上主要的声量是对共产制度下的中国大陆有种种不信任，因为在这制度下 改革前改革后的狼性斗争本质上并没有多大改变 这制度对老百姓只有管制及限制，最佳理解的方式就如同城管管老姓 但他们做的事都对吗?也如同大人管三岁小孩一样.任何事都管制，在限制内做事才是对的 反主就不对，但自由民主国家小孩满16~18岁部自主的渐渐独立了他们都要离豪出去独立生活 自己磨练成长，这过程没有对或错 .简单说就是成长与承担责任的正能量。父母不该自认为孩子没准备好就不让他出去，国家也不该自认定百姓没自由民主的知识常织而去限制人民，这是不正确的。目前在各种限制下教育出的老百娃怎能健康成长吗?又有多少人在管制教条下能在全球自由自伟大成长呢?又另说目前抓出来的重大贪官都是制度的上层的管理人物！又多为副手人物？那一把手人物又如何呢？他们都对了吗?自由民主可以在全民的讨论下更健康而不是在少数利益者的手中把玩
別太悲觀，只要有理想的人一直都在而且越來越多，一切就會改變的⋯
我超過50歲了，台灣以前黨禁報禁萬年國代，一樣沒有言論自由和真的民主，18歲那年台灣解除戒嚴，但是民主還只是個幌子，國民黨政府仍然明目張膽的買票做票。那時我也覺得很悲觀，覺得看不到改變的未來，但是現在這種事早就從台灣消失了
只要人們覺醒，就算不敢反抗，只要願意默默支持那些敢勇於挺身而出爭取自由民主的人，有一天希望就會變真實，不再遙不可及。
總要往前跨出那一步，擔心會跌倒，不該成為理由！何況坦白說，目前中國的體制還不單純只是極權而已，如果如新加坡，同時又廉能且高效率，那也罷了，其實大家很清楚，並不是的，如果人民沒有半點辦法監督政府，那只能等中樂透的運氣了！
It is quite complex, isn't it Simon. Each viewer will receive and process your presented thoughts, rationalizations and questions through their own PARTICULAR paradigm. Adding politics into any mix makes information, knowledge and understanding even more difficult! Again, thank you for sharing your perspectives.
You're not ordinary Simon. Keep up the dialogue and engaging with netizens around the world. Having people speak their mind is an important process that's worth the effort.
Excellent job handling such a difficult subject. 👍👍 I look forward to finding more awesome people like you over the coming years.
人數根本不是問題，重點在於教育，而這個政府顯然不打算教育民眾這方面的-切，除了所謂的反向教材
不，不! 是你们台湾的民主化过程教育了我们，死也不要沦落到台湾那样，只能选出一个又一个废物一样的总统。。 大陆人不支持西方民主，你们的反面教材才是起了最重要的作用!
你们香港台湾给我们反面教材了，现在高速发展期，我们不愿意改变现状
@@qazwsxq8135 你以為高速發展能永續? 哈! 哈! 哈!
不過我可以理解你的”反面教材”, 香港的反送中就是所謂”反面教材”最佳範例了, 證明中共所謂的”一國兩制”根本就是個騙人的幌子.
別人把好好一顆東方之珠送給你, 結果...唉, 糟蹋了.
說到底, 我還得感謝你家習主席, 不斷做球給台灣蔡總統接, 更幫台灣省下大外宣的大筆經費, 偶爾來個口罩1日捐就獲得各國回響, 本來我還想她的民調應該不會太好, 能夠拚到連任就已經很僥倖了, 偏偏沒想到她不但拚到連任, 還拚出一個防疫模範生, 更讓世界看見中華民國跟中華人民共和國的差別, 真是亮眼了.
有鑑於這幾個月來各國的武漢肺炎(COVID-19、新冠肺炎)擴散情形, 我得出一個結論, 人家說”信耶穌,得永生”, 我會說”不信中共者, 大難不死, 必有後福。”
@@roych3281 我可以理解你的”反面教材”, 香港的反送中就是所謂”反面教材”最佳範例了, 證明中共所謂的”一國兩制”根本就是個騙人的幌子. 別人把好好一顆東方之珠送給你, 結果...唉, 糟蹋了.
說到底, 我還得感謝你家習主席, 不斷做球給台灣蔡總統接, 更幫台灣省下大外宣的大筆經費, 偶爾來個口罩1日捐就獲得各國回響, 本來我還想她的民調應該不會太好, 能夠拚到連任就已經很僥倖了, 偏偏沒想到她不但拚到連任, 還拚出一個防疫模範生, 更讓世界看見中華民國跟中華人民共和國的差別, 真是亮眼了.
有鑑於這幾個月來各國的武漢肺炎(COVID-19、新冠肺炎)擴散情形, 我得出一個結論, 人家說”信耶穌,得永生”, 我會說”不信中共者, 大難不死, 必有後福。”
You are amazing! You deliver you point of view so well! 😍
Thank you for your continued content!
Also, how did you learn English so well?
You .." How did you learn english so well "
Simon.. " 👋"
Me.." 👍"
"how did you learn English so well? " hmmmm I find this question fascinating, because it's actually like the theme of this video- how do people learn about democracy? And the answer is, well, for starter, just give it a shot.
He never seem to answer it.
mwbagahaaaass
@@SmileKitten801 So Ho , how did you learn english so well?
Wheresmyeyebrowandhowthehellitendedupmylips
Fellow Shanghainese here living in the US, I love your videos and I wanna share them with more of my Chinese friends
From your words in the videos, I can feel how much you love your home country--or more specifically, the people there living in the country. I got it why you made your vids in English from one of the episodes, which I think it's a good way to speak up to the world and make more people know there is some viewpoint other than the "mainstream" in China. I personally tend to use English whenever I try to express myself really deep down to my heart. It seems to be easier to put it that way. It may be the reason why I don't feel any odd watching your vids. Best wishes to you and those you love. Cheers
你以爲有誰佛心來的，把豬當人養？其實餵飽豬是要賣錢的 ；無冒犯之意，但黨國不分當權者很難放棄既得利益
呵呵！火车上300万脏款查清楚了没有，军火弊案有结果了没有，陈水扁的7亿坐牢了没有，不关起来是不是因为手还在抖啊？
cm Xiao 您說的是；沒有絕對好的！台灣的兩大黨我們都不滿意，但身為人民當然希望體制更公正且法治，尊重每個獨立個體的權利與意志；也祝你們的政黨越來越好
@@twav8dgo 我是内地的，我出生于1992年湖北省的一个小镇，父母都是农民，日子过的非常辛苦，还是把我供到了大学，我很感恩，后面校招进了华为，慢慢生活开始好起来，上大学那会我学会翻墙看油管，觉得外面世界真的美好，工作几年后我慢慢改变了看法，民主和自由到底是什么，是不是一个国家只要民主自由了，所有困难都会迎刃而解，现在的内地确实还存在很多，贪腐，贫富差距，人员素质问题，但一直在向好的方向转变，这点是我能感受到的，特别是少了很多歌颂毛之类的教育，我读小学时经常唱毛主席好，毛主席就是太阳，解救人民的神，现在小学几乎没有这种教育了，说明政府还是在调整，人民生活水平确实挺高的很快，我不敢说全部，至少大部分人都满意现在的政府，可能你觉得我已经被洗脑了，但我只是个普通人，说白了，国家我根本不在乎，我只希望家人平平安安，小孩快快乐乐就好，安稳对我来说意味着一切
白杨 沒人忽視共產黨讓人民脫貧的功勞，但這不代表它可以爲所欲為，不尊敬少數族群或獨立個體；一黨專政沒有監督機制早晚會有問題；如果坦蕩蕩，為何要限制人民與中國之外的世界自由聯繫？如果共產黨行得正，為何人民不能講任何想說的話？人民溫飽重要，但不代表社會發生不公不義的事情，人民就該噤聲，因為難保事情不會發生在我們身上
白杨 補充一點。真心希望中國好，無冒犯之意。人民之間根本沒距離，只有套上政治，鴻溝就深了。希望兩岸都有好的制度才能越來越好（黨的位置不可比法律高）
I find it difficult to imagine anyone being hesitant to embrace freedom. Perhaps, it is the fear of being responsible for making your own decisions.
I agree with you. Your sentiment is beautifully expressed in the American Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...." "We hold these truths to be self-evident"
都是愚民的藉口，既得利益的權貴永遠不會放下手上的權力，在他們心中，自身的利益永遠大於全民的利益 ！
You are more than ready. You were more than ready. You are simply prevented from getting it.
My uncle is the same way as your friend and your uncle, despite speaking English and living and working in the United States for almost 30 years (and, for that matter, having been sent to the countryside during the Cultural Revolution).
I guess some people are convinced that, without authoritarianism, China will just completely disintegrate. They probably drew the wrong lessons from the collapse of the Soviet Union...
Thank you for your channel. It's one thing to hear about China from westerners who have lived in China for years, but it is very different to hear from a native Chinese person (who speaks very good english by the way, I had assumed you'd studied overseas and benefitted from total immersion in the language).
Simon I just stumbled upon your channel and I just want to say its just really interesting and rare to hear such an honest an open perspective. You seem to balance both sides of a lot of the classic China vs. The West issues really well. Many in the West are so anti-China that they completely fail to see its positives, and many in China completely fail to have any critical thought when it comes to their government. The kind of stuff you're putting out here is really valuable, probably more than you realise, so thanks and keep it up.
China mainland still have that kind of “奴才”mindset, a term that an ordinary citizens express themselves when they meet officials of the emperors, which directly set themselves as ‘slaves’.
Even now in modern Chinese society, normal white and blue collars address their upper subordinates as “领导” means leader but actually means deeper in Chinese, a generic term for the one who control or lead you. It’s fascinating they even casual say this ”领导” even when they are eating casually with friends without the so called leaders present.
It speaks so much about the culture that are still backwards and deep-rooted.
Wow! Impressed with the clarity and how you passed on the message!!!
A billion people united is a very powerful voice
Very dangerous too!
完全同意你的論點.先爬.再走.然後才能跑.擁有真正的自由生活也是如此.先有環境.由法律保障全體的自由.然後實踐.經過碰撞磨合.大家建立共識.才能擁有身體與精神都自由的生活
A lot of people say things like this... China's too big, China's still underdeveloped, China still has too many unstable places like Xinjiang and Tibet, etc... I think it's not that China isn't ready, it's that the CCP isn't ready to give up power, and is doing everything they can to hold the Chinese people back from that future.
It's reached a point where the economic reforms made by Deng have brought China to a peak point of global power and prosperity that would naturally continue to full-fledged freedom, and now the CCP under Xi is panicking trying to reign in the foreign influences that naturally come along with globalization, portraying them as corrupting influences that will harm China when they're really just a natural exchange of ideas that all people connected to the larger world are subjected to to some degree.
Chinese people introspectively questioning how things are supposed to be in China doesn't harm China - It can only serve to make China better.
The idea that the CCP provides stability and social harmony really isn't that intuitive to me. Yes, I love China's convenient mobile payment system just as much as anyone, and I love the train system and all the metros popping up in different cities. Yet, look how unstable and inconsistent the legal system is. It's a mess, and it seems to be that way in order to benefit those in power when it suits them by allowing them to skirt around parts of the law inconvenient for them.
Yes, more and more Chinese can get an education. Having worked in underdeveloped Western parts of China, however, I question how useful that education really is. I see teachers abusing their power. I see students who shouldn't pass through being passed through to reach quotas. I see students who are conditioned to pass tests but have few practical skills and little critical thinking ability. I see the latter point here with all the CCP apologists infiltrating Western websites to defend China, assuming that any foreign media that casts China in a less than stellar light is "brain-washing propaganda" because they can't comprehend how the world outside of China really works.
What China needs first is to allow people the right to think for themselves and know how to think for themselves... But unfortunately I don't see that happening under the CCP. I fear that, with China's education system the way it is now, the next step beyond the CCP would be an authoritarian ethno-nationalist government that would be worse for both China's ethnic minorities and for the international community.
Well said, many valid points but I do think democracy also will cause chaos in China and China should take steps towards a more civil society and not one-party rule. I do think based on China's history, there has always been a need for an iron fist and ideology accepted by 100% of the people. Despite its looks, China is actually very fragile. So fragile that a 9 year old boy who called Xi Jinping fat and a girl singing the anthem in a cute way are censored. To me then, China is extremely weak actually and historically has been easy to break apart.
Geography plays a strong role in this. Cause of its size, it has many minority groups and eliminates local cultures and forces people to go through Sinicization. (Google Sinicization). Taiwan/Chiang Kai Shek did this too.
Xi Jinping is going backwards cause he's afraid of slowing economy. He knows economy is getting slower and he cannot stop it, regardless of tradewar or Huawei. So he sends workers overseas on Belt Road projects to keep them employed in other countries. Not in China where infrastructure is finished, no jobs are left. If those workers stay in China, massive unemployment and unrest. So release the pressure onto other countries, cannot afford? China gives you loans. Xi Jinping is increasing his power also cause of factions in China.
BIggest threat to China is not US. It's Chinese people. Factions like Youth League, Zhou YangKang, Bo Xilai, Shanghai Clique, these factions can divide and split China causing internal conflict. Xi Jinping is crushing them cause that's the threat. Remember, PLA Military is trained to fight Chinese people, not outside forces (remember Tiananmen?). The current climate in China is not good for humanity but China has few choices. Only bad options and the current is in some ways the best bad option there is.
@@Hamlet137475 Hamlet137475 Nice points. I think, though, that there's a fallacy a lot of people make in trying to rely too heavily on China's ancient history to explain or rationalize its current path or its potential future. I don't think that's right. Imagine trying to argue that democracy in France shouldn't work because France had historically always been an unstable country prone to regional fractionalism for well over a thousand years (which is true history - from the establishment of the Merovingian Dynasty in 496 AD until after World War II, France was often a huge mess). Yet, France is only one of the first testing grounds of modern democracy and arguably one of the most successful.
I don't think Chinese culture is incompatible with democracy or human rights, as we have Taiwan as a near-perfect example of Chinese democracy. Of course, Taiwan's circumstances are very different, being much smaller than the mainland and in a much more favorable geographic position, but it just goes to show that it's not Confucian influence or any sort of cultural rigidity standing in the way.
I don't think China is nearly as weak as its leaders fear it is, either. It's just the latest round of corrupt, power-hungry rulership that's weak, and just like every other presently functioning democracy, China can start somewhere.
What would Chinese democracy look like? I see some CCP shills on Quora trying to answer this question by ridiculing Western democracy, spouting off official talking points that Chinese democracy cannot and will not be Western democracy, all the while never really answering the question. What they fail to see is that democracy has never been a one-size-fits-all model. France took inspirations from the United States, but French democracy is not American democracy. Both are also very different from German democracy, and British democracy. Nobody anywhere believes China needs to copy the US model, or the Taiwanese model, or any other model.
CCP shills also love to compare China with India, whose population is nearly as large as China's, which despite having a functioning democratic system in place, is still riddled by poverty and disorder - Everything the Chinese don't want. China is not and never has been India, however, and those who bring up India tend to focus too heavily on the one commonality - a huge population - While overlooking the differences, namely that India is a country that did not exist as a singular, cohesive culture with a long history of unification the way China has. India was built from the ground up from British rule, and in many ways, it's still being built.
This brings me to the point you made about China's many ethnic groups, I'd like to point out that this isn't that big a challenge to China's cohesion. The only problematic ethnic groups are the two on the furthest fringes - The Uyghurs and the Tibetans. China has done a good job in solidifying an ethnic Han identity that is proud to be "Chinese," despite huge regional and dialectical differences within this group. The minorities of the south and the northeast are also relatively happy to be part of China from what I understand, and even if they hypothetically weren't, as a small portion of ethnic Mongols are not, their populations are dwarfed by their Han neighbors. You also have minorities like the Kazakhs and Koreans who have "their own" independent homelands elsewhere and are more than welcome to leave if they don't like it. It's just the Uyghurs and Tibetans, really, at the far western ends of China, that cause problems today.
20th century National (Aryan German) Socialism of 1920s-30s to rejuvenate the German Nation
21st century National (Han Chinese) Socialism of 2020s-30s to rejuvenate the Chinese Nation.
Is history going to repeat itself?
Hope not.
AMG Xpat no the Germans were economically confident and military ready to invade Europe. In a lot of ways, they were in fact superior than their neighboring countries. It was not an illusion, it was factual. CCP on the other hand is as fragile as a paper tiger, it’s military is built only to crackdown on its own powerless citizens, not combats. Its building the biggest illusion the world has ever seen.
@@sunwm2003 If you make out your enemy to be less human than you , that is the way governments (Dynasties) get people to do evil (to them it's righteous) acts. War isn't man vs man anymore, it is technology vs technology and propaganda vs propaganda as it has always been.
喜歡這部，也喜歡你影片底下大家的討論，大家少點情緒謾罵那更好，期待之後的影片~ 願世界和平~
Simon, you're incredibly mature for someone of your age. This is the first time I've heard someone from China speak like that. It seems that I had been having the stereotyped view of Chinese. I hope you'll stay safe where you are for expressing your honest thoughts freely.
Freedom of speech is necessary for freedom of conscience. Freedom of speech is most important to asking questions.
I seriously hope you can become the President of China by 2047.
no, no, never! majority Chinese people never allow this happen!
ROY CH it’s more like the communist party. They have elections within the party or something
He will become the future Gorbachev the end of CCP rule if he is made president .
You can even see he is concerned about the present governing system .
You really dont understand China
Thanks for your bravery. I think a lot of people commenting about the weaknesses of the AI example on the last video understand the reference you were making, and commented about the AI when really they aren't talking about that example, they're saying both the AI and that system have the same weaknesses.
I think his AI example is like idealised version of current system, the point being even with the perfect decision making it still wouldn't be acceptable for a lot of people let alone with human agents.
It sounds like most of them might never be ready, not even for the second voice.....
Rebecca,
Most of us young are to easily swayed , with no experience , not fully developed our simian minds on how world really operates... if populace are educated and rational, that time for it.
@@littlemoutha9998
then there is something drastically wrong with the chinese education system. which is done deliberately.
I spoke to number of expat, said they routed to memorizing in all subject matter, that all i know.
As to above i talking about most , whether they are chinese or american... the young are still naive ...
@@littlemoutha9998
your software translating is extremely difficult to make sense of
Its in english.
this is the first time i gave you a thumb up because you are now open mind person. good for you
Great video as always, Simon really "gets it"..and those same Chinese-Americans who say "China is not ready" are also implying: "even though I came to the US and could enroll in a good university, and could get a good paying job as something other than a Mandarin teacher, or could open a business if I wanted and could own a house and could own a car and could get citizenship and could vote in elections etc I DON'T THINK AMERICANS SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THOSE SAME THINGS IN CHINA"
I like your bike analogy, the only problem with it is that nobody asked the mother if she wanted her child to ride a bike. She tells the child, "you will be ready when you have learned to ride", but in reality she doesn't want her child riding bikes in the first place. Riding a bike means exploring, meeting new friends, gathering new ideas, and then questioning his own upbringing to that of his friends. If he never learns to ride a bike, he will always have to rely on his mother and what his mother tells him.
Now I'm going to change the analogy for my next example, so instead of riding a bike, the child is learning how to swim.
If the child never learns to swim, they will always be cautious around water. As an adult standing near a pool, the now grown child says, "I never learned, and now I have no interest in learning. I have done plenty well for myself and made it this far without swimming, why would I learn now?" He avoids any situations involving swimming or where he might have to swim. His happy place at the beach is in the sand, not in the water. This is our mainland child.
The Hong Kong child (now an adult), did learn to swim but only in the shallow end. He wants to do everything in his power to learn how to swim in the deep end, but none of his mainland friends agree with him. As none of them have learned to swim, they think it is silly to try and learn this late in the game. They have no concept of the shallow end, so imagining the deep end is just terrifying.
Now the two are on vacation together in the Caribbean. Hong Kong wants to take a boat tour of the beautiful reefs and go swimming in the shallow water. Mainland wants nothing to do with this. Hong Kong tells Mainland that he doesn't have to go swimming and can stay in the boat, but Mainland refuses. He can't swim AT ALL, and being in the boat threatens his life should it capsize.
This is my best analogy of the situation. You're right, it's hard to come up with analogies rather than just say what you are actually thinking, but I did my best :D
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As for your friend who said China is not ready, the truth is, nobody is ever REALLY ready to learn how to swim. The difference here is that Hong Kong is asking to try in the shallow end, and all China sees is the deep end. They don't see the buildup of training and practice that is required to move from the shallow end to the deep end. They didn't watch their friends grab the walls to hold themselves up for a few lessons... All they saw was Michael Phelps setting records for fastest laps and they said FUCK THAT.
The people of mainland China are ready for the shallow end, but the overprotective mother that is the government wants her child to have nothing to do with it. The reality of the situation is this: learning to swim doesn't mean you throw away your mother. Exploring the ocean doesn't mean throwing away your mother. What it means is that your mother has to adjust how she treats you and raises you, and she isn't ready for that. She could adapt if she wanted to, but she has no interest changing the way she treats you. She will forever look at you as the child she raised, even now as the successful adult you are.
Sorry for the long-winded analogy, if it doesn't make sense I apologize haha. In any case, keep up the great work, always love tuning in and watching every one of your videos, even if I don't make a super long comment below! :D
And , being pushed by outsider to quickly buy into it, as only benefit outsider, , and to get on quickly without or with bad instructions or con him to buy into bad bike without brakes will only lead to diasterous effect, that when supervision is necessary by parent...
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@@littlemoutha9998
you really make confused statements
Then you are intellectually challenged.
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MercifiesProductions thank you for your insight! I like your analogy!:)
Simon I love you please becareful!!!
I wish you could move to Taiwan our west one day!
You deserves a better life!
He is enjoying his good life.
I think he has good life in China. He just cares about people who suffer from having no rights .
It is sad to see what happened
th-cam.com/video/mkSJ_2hXnh8/w-d-xo.html
His life would be even better if he moved to Taiwan!
很好的觀點！腳踏車的比喻超讚
我100%同意你的想法跟觀點!!!!!自由的定義就是不能妨礙他人的自由.而且可以有不同的聲音!!!!!好喜歡你的思考立場跟做法!!!!不過也有點擔心你畢竟是再上海生活....加油..已訂閱!!!!我每期都有看喔~~~
The lines, ‘China is not ready yet’ and ‘there are too many people’ are not good excuses at all. The Chinese people I associate with in Perth, Australia 🇦🇺 have no problems adjusting, they prosper very well under our system. Needless to say Taiwan 🇹🇼 does extremely well for its size. India 🇮🇳 is only just behind the number of people in China 🇨🇳 and they have a pretty good democratic republic.
It seems more likely that the ccp just don’t want to let go of their authoritarian power. I hope that one day our Chinese friends will be able to enjoy the freedoms we take for granted in the West.
Thank you for your vlog, take care.
中國準備了好幾百年，藉口永遠是沒準備好........我想到以前我爸叫我學游泳，我要是一天到晚怕，我到今天一樣不會游泳....有些事，不嘗試，不知道的，你同學會有那種想法不意外，我任是一些住美國的，中國來的，不少是這樣，都在怕.........
中国有好几百年 ？ China？大哥 ROC 准备好了 小弟 PRC 不能缓一缓？
這個例子舉得不太好。始終個人的處境自己比較好控制，但涉及到整個國家（多於一個人）的狀況，情況更難控制。人是最難預測的生物，你問自己到底有多了解自己，你也說不準吧？那換個國家的角度，怎麼就認定民主（一個人都不了解自己，怎麼去了解別人，了解整個國家）一定是標準，一定是適合呢？
This seems like a discussion for Chinese, between Chinese.
What strikes me though is that many Chinese will not be able to even participate in that discussion, seeing as they don't have legal access to TH-cam to see this.
Sure. But yet another much lost dimension here is, then, what if that discussion were given space to be allowed but comes to a consensus that is at variance with both the existing Chinese status quo _AND_ also which has agreed to deep value conflicts with "universal" - which actually are very culturally situated western and rooted in violence in their own way - values such that if it is to be implemented it would also lead to similar "condemnation" from those hegemonic institutions? We see an example of this, for example, with another country, Rwanda, which has made a very pointed law banning a sizeable chunk of the "freedom of assembly" even while it allows for more free _speech_ than China does, that _its people_ support as a necessary measure given the internal genocide it faced. Should they as a collective have that "right" to proscribe such from their individuals? If not, why not? Who decides, by what method and why does that method have legitimacy to remain supreme? Too much seems to be accepted as "givens" here on all sides and there's too little contact I find between the people that need to have contact with each other and yet I have little power to bring it about.
@@mike4ty4 I really can't tell what you are advocating for here, but it seems predicated on the assumption that an open conversation will lead to a agreed upon situation where all involved accept and live with.
I personally think that it is superfluous to speculate on the impact of such a discussion on a platform that most people who would be affected are legally not allowed to access.
@@LostInThe0zone Well, if not a consensus, then at least insofar as it would/wouldn't come to inform politics, then the scenario I was suggestion would be that the direction of politics that results would at least in major ways be of the sort I described.
I guess what I'm saying is how much room is there in this world for deep cultural diversity versus - esp. western - hegemony & global tokenism.
Yeah they do. VPN isn’t unknown in China it’s quite popular
If I'm not mistaken, Simon has mentioned in another vlog that China has quite a number of platforms (Youku etc) where her citizens actually debate very actively. Anyone from any part of the world has access to those platforms. Just that they happen to debate very actively in Mandarin. So I suppose being multilingual will be beneficial for those who wish to participate in those debates. of course, I do stand to be corrected.
The people who live comfortably at the moment are obviously never gonna be prepared to risk the change in social dynamics that might see them very much worse off if there is any change to the current status.
Thank you, Simon. Good thoughts. Praying for Chinese mainland people and also Hong Kongers also.
I am from Australia and have been doing business in china for over 5 years the up take of VPN has been very large in the last few years there are now a lot of bicycle riders in china and a lot more learning their mothers would be proud of them
I not only do business in China I now have family in china and I have seen the changes taking place in the last 5 years
In my own mind I do believe china would benefit greatly if it would let the people ride their bicycles over 100 million people have already learnt how to ride and are teaching other people how to ride
So I was sent by Serpentza and after watching server videos of yours, I was really impressed by how you could have such an open minded logic when talking about all the Chinese issues while you've never really lived in any democratic countries. I've met so many many many Chinese people in the US, who live in the US and enjoy all the freedom while telling me how much they love China and Taiwan should be apart of China and how China is perfect in every single aspect. They would always say, yes China is xxx but thats because xxx. They can think of any BS reason to rationalize all the dumb shits that CCP is doing. I really don't want to phrase it this way but so many of them have been brainwashed to all have the same logic. It's actually amazing in a way. I always think it's funny when people say shit about democracy and all the cons of the democratic system because nothing is perfect including democracy. However, theres no freaking way dictatorship is better than democracy. Freedom of speech sucks sometimes, but it's still way better than having none. Freedom of the dark & crazy internet sucks sometimes but it's still better than having restricted access and only being able to see what your government allow you to see. I live in Taichung so hit me up next time you're in town! Kudos to you for having the courage to speak up and wanting a better live while under such circumstances.
Freedom and Democracy are great if you're Rich and Wealthy person
owleyes Malignaggi it is true that westerns have more freedom than Chinese, but you are not as free as you think you are. Try being an influential person telling dark secrets about the government, they will come after you if they feel threatened. A lot of people died in a shady way or got locked up in the past for exposing the government.
Serpentza and Laowhy86 are tops!!!!
@@mojito4493 being rich and wealthy is great weather you are in the US, China, or North Korea, but I would rather be poor in the US than rich in North Korea... why? Freedom. The truth is it is much better to be poor but free than poor and under a dictatorship. Even if that dictatorship promises to take care of the poor, there is no way to hold that government accountable if there is no freedom of speech.
@@fortheloveofbooks1513 The USA is a dictatorship of Plutocrats and Oligarchs. You're too blind.
你好 不知道有没有机会当面交流下 我也在上海 我生活当中需要一个你这样的朋友 我周围的人 全部都是被洗脑或被利益驱动 没有共同语言 我感觉在这个社会我已经格格不入了
也许你周围的人和朋友只是和你的意见不一样。 言论自由应该建立在对不同意见的尊重和包容上对吧。
Ready? Not ready? Hong Kong people are more than ready. What does CCP do to them?
HK people already have free speech but they should allow opposite views to be expressed without resorting to violence.
@@sword7872 My god, do you really believe there are "opposite views" in Hong Kong?
@@liuxiaobo4838 what are people fighting over if they didn't have opposite views? People are ready when they can discuss or debate, agree to disagree, not use violence to settle disputes.
@@sword7872 That's common sense. Aren't comments from wumao gangs and "patriotic societies" orchestrated by CCP's liaison office or state media reflecting views of real life citizens?
@@liuxiaobo4838 i detect that you already have a bias by calling people wumao whenever they make a comment that is not in line with your thinking. Why name calling? Why can I not have a different point of view?
I've just found your videos and I love them! Thanks for sharing your thoughts - You explain everything very well and your arguments are on point.
I remembered this video what you said...3:20. Head up and stay strong! Freedom is coming also for China. We are all in the same boat worldwide
God, Simon you are good. I really loved the bicycle analogy
被白人赞扬了，哦耶
Great video. We know it is hard not to speak freely so you don't get in trouble. Hope the Chinese leaders will not take violent measures to stop the peaceful protests in Hong Kong. Both sides need to talk instead before things get out of hand.
Please, be responsible when u comment. It's not "peaceful protests" in Hongkong. To say the VERY LEAST.
永遠不會有準備好的一天，成熟的體制根本也不可能一夕完成
民主化不是要你馬上直選國家主席，階段性開放一步一步前進跟國家穩定也不衝突
在威權統治下受到的教育與價值觀難以馬上轉換，即便是台灣開放民選多年仍然在民主體制中摸索
我家的長輩仍然會說以前國民黨威權統治多安全經濟發展多好，但那是在只有官媒的年代報喜不報憂的假象
現在的台灣剛好相反，報憂不報喜。。。。
吉1981 喜的新聞也是有，只是通常壞新聞佔了九成而已啦
對啊，那時候正是白色恐怖時代，就像現在大陸經濟突飛猛進，但是人民不會知道中國在新疆蓋了一堆監獄迫害維吾爾平民，跟軍事鎮壓西藏，跟活摘器官失蹤百萬人
@@MrMrry28 这你就是瞎输说了！！
我只能說民主不是萬能解藥。
專業人士永遠都是少數，交給一大群不專業的人去處理需要專業處理的事，真的有那麼好嗎？看看不同國家的例子，分析一下利弊和國家的狀況，才能知道哪套真適合。
Your bike analogy is exactly correct. WHEN will Chinese people be ready for freedom? Who determines that? Why are Chinese people OUTSIDE of Mainland China ready and enjoying their freedoms but Chinese within the Mainland cannot?
Cynthia - I remember 1989 and I was really touched by what I saw. I have also looked at the history of China including the president’s family history.
Don’t worry I have looked at America’s history as well as my own personal history. I am still looking at American and myself and other countries as well and individuals - we have so much in common - it is so beautiful and amazing 🙏🏾💜
很喜歡你的論點 也想看你之前影片只可惜有看沒有懂 希望之前的影片也能配上中文字幕 謝謝
I am an Indonesian of Chinese ancestry. I have gone through a tyrant government, the Suharto cronies and family, you can check out their biography through Wikipedia, he was the most corrupted president in the 90s according to Forbes. Restrictions on free speech and unlawful snatching of the citizens lands were rampant during his rule of 30 years. Nobody dared to challenge and criticize him as he controlled the military, a lot of politicians and journalists went missing or found dead during his tenure.
He also banned all Chinese descendants to practice and learn Chinese language in schools and using Chinese characters in public and shops.
Fortunately he was toppled in 98 after students demonstration and blood. And we the Chinese also fell into victim again during the riot as there was no army or police whatsoever, which a lot of Indonesians know he controlled and deliberately let the chaos happened.
I live in Shanghai and I have this eerily feeling when I seen news of activists missing or jailed without proper trial, and the reeducation camps and excessive control of the Chinese gov. over Xinjiang. Because this has happened to me.
damn man, i am so glad that i live after that generation.i hope u doin ok in china
You haven't been to Xianjiang. What you are claiming is exactly what is stated by western media
I'm also from +62, I know this is your post from 5 months ago, but do you really live in China? the ethnic cleansing propaganda comes from ASPI, you better be careful not to spread rumors carelessly. It is ironic that living in China can still be deceived by western propaganda.
偉大始於開始...開始終能成就...偉大!祝福中國早日成為一個真正偉大而富強的國家.不靠維穩不靠監視.不靠思想控制...
Dont let anybody tell you ,you are not ready for anything.
Every day is the only day to live FREE.
Your pronaciation has made a great progress in this clip,comparing to those earlier .
We got the AI reference, no worries.
You guys banned from mainland China?
Thank you ! guys:)
@@SimonYu you should get out of Mainland China fast and fulfill your dream to be a USA citizen.
I mean, since you hate China and the CPC, then just migrate to the USA who has the least Covid-19 cases in the world.
香港以前除了沒有民主什麼都有，而且過的很好且穩定
台灣以前什麼都沒有到現在什麼都有，除了國際上被打壓面對文攻武嚇外，其餘也蠻好的
台灣.香港如果沒有外來政權干預，應該會更好
而且它還是個自由港...當然中國內地也有其他港口 但香港這個地方真的是很獨特的國際貿易地位...
香港政府唔係但英政府係民選
況且以前冇車，咁係咪依家唔坐得？
以前冇嘅嘢，依家更加要爭取
@@mainaccount6320 最重要係應承得ge 五好出爾反爾...
奔跑小兵
那你認為誰是外來政權呢？
@@过来人
回歸以前沒有治理過香港一天 你覺得是誰呢?
對台灣來說,中國是干涉他國內政
Hi Simon bravo to another insightful and honest video :) Keep it up! You are such an adorable guy! Wow I didn't know you live in Shanghai too. I will be living here and working here until the end of June 2020. Too bad we never got to meet I would have loved to pick your brain more about so many other issues. Anyhow, stay the awesome person you are and thanks for maintaining a good representation of the everyday Chinese person.
Freedom in the real world is getting a real job, buying an apartment to live, paying for food , rates, taxes, buying car, maintaining that car, health insurance, looking after family, feed , clothe, paying off a 30 year mortgage for the rest of your natural life, worrying if you will get the sack or not. that is REAL FREEDOM mr YU. no matter what country you live. are you ready?