Wait... no studios were closed, no bankruptcy, no one lost their job and livelihood, project wasn’t mismanaged, no publisher intrusions AND they avoided CRUNCH?! This is so hard to believe that I’m about cry tears of happiness.
Add up that this game had EVERYTHING set to fail. Long hiatus? Check, beloved ip? Check, new developer? Check, time constrains? Check, little studio without experience in the genre? Check, little budget? Check, new business model? Check, change of developer? Check. This game is a textbook example on how studios should overcome hard challenges and deliver amazing games. I really REALLY hope Microsoft bring a new K.I. for this new gen. Iron Galaxy can take the project.
I might of missed the line from this video, but based on other coverage of the game's development, it did go through some serious crunch. Between having a new studio having to pick up the development on the fly and things done for advertising they were had to push it to the limit.
Oh no, there was some nasty crunch going on. Iron Galaxy were given the game from double helix and had to not only learn how to program and design for the game, but also make TJ combo in a month. That is some serious crunch going on there. But that did come about from unusual circumstances. It's not good, in fact it's pretty damn awful, but the management didn't completely fuck up, which is a rarity in modern gaming.
I think Cuphead should be next in the lineup, it was made by few people, they had to quit their Jobs and remorgage their houses and it took them 7 years to make, and in the end it all worked out.
That takes me back, haha. I remember the excitement of watching a great player play KI in the arcade. I was never that good at Killer Instinct.... but it was awesome, the way people would gather around a great player in the arcade.
@@KamenRaiden man it was epic. I lived in Japan shortly before this time and that was cool too but the American arcade experience was definitely something to behold. And then one day...it was just gone 😭
Basically, Is the Melee of Microsoft: A fighting game who should have been a disaster or mediocre at best due to lack of time of development because it had to be console release, but it wasn't despite all of that.
I tried it and it was too complicated for me. I've grown up on Tekken and it was great in its simplicity . You smash buttons, you do weak combos. You learn how to smash buttons correctly, you do better combos. And this stuff instead offers some combo breakers, counter combo breakers, ultra combos with finishing blows, ultra combos without finishing blows, shadow stuff and more, and more, and more... Still regret that I didn't manage to learn this stuff to start enjoying the game
@@GreedyDrunk92 I do recommend giving it another go. I had the luxury of growing up with many different fighting games 2D and 3D, but Tekken is what I’ve played the most as a youngin’. KI has a higher skill floor than Tekken imo (Tekken I would consider having a higher skill ceiling depending on your character of choice), but once you conquer that, KI is just batshit crazy fun.
18:57 Greetings from the distant year of 2024, Killer Instinct just got a 4K Series X update for the 10 year anniversary of the game. It’s also going free to play on Steam on top of already being one of the best games on Game Pass.
Wait? So a couple of B-tier studios with not really much to their name were given a B-List title and managed to make a solid, fondly-remembered game? So THAT'S what it looks like when competent, experienced, workman-like game designers actually get to their jobs instead of getting shit on by management!
The Collective put out some really criminally underrated games in their years. As Matt mentioned, the Buffy game (not the sequel Chaos Bleeds, please keep in mind), Indiana Jones and the Emporer's Tomb , the Strider reboot. None of the games were huge blockbusters, but they were better than most blockbusters AAA games of their times. I specifically remember Buffy having some of the best OG Xbox graphics around at the time. I definitely wouldn't say they were untalented, just missing their big break.
@@gusbabiski max worked on the trailers for season 2 and 3. Season 1 trailers were FANTASTIC and made by DH. Season 2 and 3 trailers were absolute dog shit.
Well, it helped that seasons one and two were composed by Mick Gordon, a musical mad god. Atlas Plug and Celldweller had big shoes to fill for season three, but they did a excellent job.
Both Double Helix and Iron Galaxy went together like peanut butter and jelly. It's important that we think of both of them when remembering and playing KI. The soul these guys put into this game is palpable. I adore them both for bringing back one of my childhood loves and defying all the odds to create such an amazing game that not only lives up the original, but surpasses it in every regard.
I remember 7 years ago Xbox seemed like the outright supervillains of gaming. Props to Spill Phencer for turning it around. And to Konami, EA, Bethesda, and the rest for being far more hateable.
@@matabishippuden6965 I think Nintendo's fine outside of the stupid limited time digital releases thing they suddenly started doing. Sony's big issue is they've been making deals with Japanese devs that make anime titty games then all of a sudden decided such content is haram and forced them to censor way harder than even Nintendo. It's outright led to cancellations and has screwed over a number of niche studios.
@@MrSTVR Are you serious? Buddy, you have a lot of catching up to do with Nintendo. I'll give you this starter pack: Abusive copyright takedowns, the entirety of Nintendo Switch Online, Creators Program, Joycon drift issues still widespread nearly four years on, artificial scarcity, overpricing on ports/older games. You do the rest.
This game was not only my first introduction to the KI series (I’ve known about the previous games but I never got to play them) but also to the musical god, Mick Gordon.
In regards to fighting game themed "Wha Happun", why not do one on SNK, as in the whole company? Don't get me wrong, they've made some all time classics and in recent years they've been on the road to recovery with games like The King of Fighters XIV, Samurai Shodown (2019), and Terry's appearance in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, but man have they made some astronomically poor decisions over their lifetime even to the point of them goin bankrupt on multiple occasions.
Really hope Microsoft reconsiders giving KI more content; it really is one of the best fighting game series ever. Also pretty premature to say this but can we agree that Metroid Prime 4 will likely be an episode subject in the future? No matter how amazing it ends up being, its development cycle from what we've heard has really been something so far to put it lightly.
It will be because development was restarted. Whether or not the game is good doesn't really matter for the show. That a really weird thing to happen after so long. The only issue is that the info may never become public as Japanese developers don't talk with that stuff as openly as Western ones.
@@RusticRonnie well it is developed by retro studios, a texan studio whose employees have been very audible about how shitty it is work there and how much Nintendo mismanages them
@@RusticRonnie Specially since we have the same guy who produced the sequel to one of the greatest RPGs of all time: Tanabe, the creator of Sticker Star, a guy who always wanna innovate over making good games and refuses to listen feedback.
It also seems like a Metroid prime 4 video would mention something about Samus returns, there’s been some recent rumor that it’s receiving a switch port.
@@N12015 I just looked at what Tanabe has worked on and wow, some of Nintendo's worst games directly came from him Ever since he became a producer, he made one bad decision after another with a few great games inbetween
This is one of my favorite games of all time. No fighting game has kept me engaged and kept me coming back like killer instinct. I still play it to this day
Sadly, we'll get in probably mid or late 2021. I was hyping that game up like crazy but I ultimately decided against buying it. All the gameplay I've seen is just repetitive button mashing. I wish so hard they gave that game the Arkham treatment.
It's 100% going to happen sometime , gotta wait and see if the game has a redemption in the next few months or if it's quietly pulled out to pasture. I imagine if you've watched a bunch of these "wha happen" episodes and hang around online enough .... you can probably guess how and where and why Avengers went wrong. For a sneak peak, check out Matt's episode on Anthem.
Deus Ex Mankind divided has more player on steamcharts than Avengers, you know, eidos montreal single player game that came out 5years ago, let that sink in
@@ratamahatta5306 Mankind Divided is such an underrated gem. It's like Human Revolutions but they fixed all the crappy parts with it, like the boss fights.
The Combo Breaker/Counter Breaker gag was gdlike. Thanks so much for giving me another chance to speak about a project that was so near and dear to me and many other on the teams. #BringBackKI
@@Secondary_Identifier It's Chad Kroeger from the infamous rock band Nickelback which has a negative reputation and generated quite a bit of memes on the internet.
Killer Instinct has always been my favorite fighting game series. To bad it doesn't have the recognition other gaming franchises have such as Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Tekken, and others.
Killer instinct 2013 is my favorite fighting game and I think it’s combo system that is basically “shared” between all characters makes its fighting mechanics some of the best of all time. I really hope Microsoft makes a killer instinct sequel
I hope that one day you'll make a What Happened all about Conker. I'm sure that a lot could be said about him. And, but this is just wishful thinking, about Battlefield Earth, if only because there's SO much stuff that went wrong while making that movie.
That Wha Happen? probably go something like Conker goes from a kid friendly gameboy game and Diddy Kong Racing character to insane Bad Fur Day game, then Bad Fur Day game gets a remaster on Xbox, and then years later they make some weird augmented reality Conker game I saw in a trailer but never played.
You know, a fighting game that managed to have a 4-year lifespan, especially when the start is very tumultuous and chaotic, is actually really impressive.
Was this really a Wha Happun? Felt more like a dual fan hype video. Which is fine, but not what I'd expect from this series either. "Team makes decent game" seems kind of a mediocre pitch for a wha happun.
@@thetaarakian it already has been said in other episodes that the series is not only for flops, but for other projects that shouldn't have worked, but did anyway, like a reverse flop, just watch the Demon's Souls video for example
I was never good at this game, but I enjoyed many hours playing against my boyfriend- who put so much time in that he ended up as a mod on the KI forums. We're married now and he still loves the game. And yes, Hisako waifu was my go to. XD
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Dude I literally have goosebumps over my entire body right now. I don't play KI, but god damn if it isn't one of the hypest fucking games to watch. This game DESERVES to continue onward. Microsoft need to give it a Series X version and announce a new season. I don't want it to just be relegated to side tournaments and be a 'what if' in the industry. I want KI to combo breaker my ass into oblivion and become a fighting game empire. #BringBackKI
@@TexasHollowEarth That's the problem with Microsoft. They don't view the Xbox as a true gaming machine, but as a multimedia hub. They have access to so many great IP's, but lack the focus and dedication to pure gaming to do anything meaningful with them. It's exactly why Sony's PS will ALWAYS be the more successful gaming console.
@@ronnieradon lol ok Ron. Not only do they not have any dedicated Series X titles out now, the only titles they've shown gameplay of are CoD/Halo FPS clones.
@@donkeydarko77 what about all the ones that don't have gameplay reveals yet? like the new Fable game? doesn't seem like it would be FPS to me lol. besides.. i mean.. games are games, i was replying to your comment about how they only care about the whole multimedia thing.
@@RadikAlice More like a What Happun to the Lara-Su Chronicles, it suddenly stopped and the Freedom Fighters still haven't made an appearance in the "Pendersverse".
I'm sure the sponsor of the video did a wonderful Senran Kagura art book. Too lazy to go upstairs to check my copy to see if they did. Edit: checked my copy, they did.
Hey Matt, not sure if you will see this, but I wanted to comment on the noticeable increase in production quality in these What Happened videos. There is a lot more animation, new artwork, and that opening keeps getting more complex. I like what you are doing and it feels good to support a creator that strives to improve their product as much as you do. Jason (the editor as per the last screen) is doing an amazing job.
Teared up. I love this game and this franchise. It's such a fantastic love letter to music, sound design, characters, fun, and fighting games. Somewhere in my dna (you could say, my double helix huehue) there's KI logo's imprinted on every strand. I'm proud to have been a fan of it, have the world's largest KI collection, and be a part of the amazing community that has been created since it's inception. #BringbackKI #LongLiveKI
I'm so glad I got to Skype with James Goddard after Shadow Lords came out. It is the highest point of my gaming life. I got to influence a portion of my favorite series of all time through him after I broke the game mode so badly a couple of my clips managed to catch his attention and we chatted about how to fix some of the things I found. It was such an amazing moment and wouldn't have happened if KI wasn't such a community passion project.
God, I remember when Killer Instinct first came out during the dinosaur times I stood in the arcade just mesmerised by the "advanced" graphics. Like, I thought games would pretty much look like that forever because where else was there to go? Man, technology is crazy.
KI Remake is a fantastic game and I hope and pray it does come back for different gaming consoles. By the way the KI Remake soundtrack is fucking fantastic and is one of my favorites.
Man, this game was a legit miracle. In any other hands. The game would have been a huge failure on par with Dookie Nookie Forever.... But instead, we somehow got a masterpiece in the fighting game genre. I can't stress enough how amazing both dev teams were with this game. They deserve so much praise.
Remembered playing KI and KI2 in the arcades, and doing those insane combos. Then recently a friend found a copy of KI2 for the 64. Its been almost 22 years since, I played this game and I managed to do those insane combos like it was yesterday man. The smile on my face was priceless.
@@Flyingsandwiches-nr1zc it is tons fun, combos are great, each character is unique (no Ryu, Ken and Akuma situation ) and in mp there is a lot of mind games with combo breakers and counter breakers.
As someone who owns Killer Instinct on Super NES which I still have I was super excited when it was announced on Xbox One and was my primary reason to finally purchasing one with no regrets it was a fun game and still is! 🙎♂️
This game and Mortal Kombat 9 are the prime examples of how to do a proper reboot. Killer Instinct is my childhood and the new one is my welcome back to an old friend
I really didn't pay much attention to this game at first, I thought it was going to flop hard with that business model. I'm glad I was wrong, they did an amazing job.
Thank you both for finally explaining to me why tf there was a amazing free game with only 1 playable character and for giving me a reason to go back and buy it.
I remember when my local arcade growing up received KI 1 arcade cabinet. For about a month nobody wanted to play it and just stuck to games like Samurai Showdown, Tekken, and MK. One day 2 kids just started playing and slowly interest shifted away from MK and Tekken but went back playing them occasionally for kids to take on the number one player.
20:25 That callout tickles me something fierce. Good to hear of a story that, generally, has a lot of good backstory to it, despite the issues that do plague it along the way. Last one in this series I recall having a wholesome progression is Demon's Souls, which... ...well, we know how that turned out now.
@@8Kazuja8 tbh The Quiet Man's concept *can* work, the biggest problem being how you do it. The Quiet Man was done in a way that made it inaccessible to even abled players until you beat the game once after a patch was released, and outright offensive at worst with how inconsistently it portrayed deafness. But at the same time, that makes it a top-tier example of how to *not* handle or portray disability in media. Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice this is not.
@@8Kazuja8 tbh I think it's pretty obvious that they never consulted any deaf people during production. I think its gimmick *can* work, but the way how The Quiet Man handled it was wholly awful. It's inaccessible to deaf people, it's inaccessible to non-deaf(?) people and the way how its creator explained the gimmick was pretentious as hell. I think it was something about thinking back to when you were a baby and didn't understand language, which is just... what.
Oh my god. I had no idea these fighting game documentaries existed. Thank you so much. I was like 14 when the first Killer Instinct hit arcades, and have very fond memories of it. Even more for the sequel.
I just got this game and, I'm shocked to say this, I've had more fun with this than I did with Netherrealm's past titles for the last 6 years. I haven't had so much fun with a fighting game in SO LONG. To the developers of this fantastic, no, ULTIMATE game, I bow my head and tip my hat. You truly have my respect, and I don't often give respect to most people.
Man, it really is worth noting and repeating that Double Helix pulled one hell of a turnaround as a developer. They were universally dismissed or outright hated for just seemingly churning out unimaginative, mediocre crap, then put out two totally stellar revivals of two dead but beloved IP’s. I mean, who would have thought the developer behind Silent Hill: Homecoming would make _this_ ? It’s really quite the redemption arc. And then running off of that is Iron Galaxy’s ascension from joke-fighter developer to “so fucking legit, it hurts”. This game really is kind of a minor miracle when you think about it.
Im still amazed of how after surviving what could be a declared path for defeat. This game also brought us some characters we didnt expect in fighting games and delivered them so well. Yes Im talking about Rash, Arbiter and RAAM, maybe Rash was the closer to what we see in fighting games but still the team at Iron Galaxy knew how to introduce those dudes with fitting gameplay and they dont look out of place in KI.
Let's be honest: This was made to tell Microsoft we need a proper "Killer Instinct Sequel" on the Series X/S. Something to which I'm all for. That and it is actually nice to see a "What happened?" episode for a game that didn't go completely wrong. At least from what I can tell since outside of the launch of six characters, KI had a hell of a run.
Also I learned recently from a documentary by hold back to block that the original KI made the Ultra combo and Combo Breaker sounds about 40% LOUDER than the sound volume level set in the test menu by the arcade operator. A very clever way of attracting attention. I just... LOVE goofy arcade stuff like this
KI is almost a 10 year old game, yet it has the best netcode of any fighting game ever!. I wish fighting games devs would learn from there example. i am so sick of buying a new fighting game just for the online to suck really hard (looking at you dragonball fighterz)
7:44 Legit was arguing with someone on Yahtzee's Zero Punctuation list of most influencial games of 2010s how this model alone made KI worthy for that list. Someone argued back to me that this is not the case because "they never heard of the game" :/
There WAS a small patch for Xbox Series S|X, though it explicitly clarifies it was for performance tweaking and added no new content or balancing whatsoever. But it's still SOMETHING at least.
With Microsoft now owning Bethesda, it'd be the perfect time to revive KI and pump it up with new content. Just imagine the Doom Slayer or Corvo as fighters. It'd be almost too perfect.
Microsoft has said themselves they want to bring KI back, they know the demand is there, but there are simply no studios free right now with any experience in fighting games, sadly.
Best arcade moment of all time for me was watching my little brother playing this when he was about 10, working to beat the arcade mode with Orchid when a guy twice his age walk up, pop his quarters in, and take over. My brother kicked his butt. Guy swore up a storm, popped more quarters in, and not only got his ass kicked again, but was finished with an Ultra. Jerked was sweating life his life depended on finding new words to use, grabbed his quarters and stormed off. My brother proceeded to beat the game and see the ending. Never been so proud. He was quite good at the game. :-)
i hated crap like that in the arcades there were always punks like that in the arcades my arcades were always good about kicking people like that out when they were discovered ..there was a version of mk2 or 3 that if you beat someone in 2 player it counted for story mode and my bro was like 11 and had tons of people trying to stomp him cause he was a kid that he never fought the computer except for the end but i remember it got to the point where they gave the kids their own section with diff cabnients which had things like lowered difficulty and the like
I remember playing this at a secret event in London. Me and my friend (he doesn't speak to me anymore) end up making the characters froze but could only do their taunts... good times 🤣 11:11 🤣🤣🤣 Can't Unsee
Bro we used to play Killer instinct Gold on N64 with the volume on max. Every cookout and block party everybody heard that shit from my crib and everybody and they grandma wanted next on the sticks
The KI Classic was the first figghting game i ever got interested in on my N64. Fucking LOVED it. Instantlly pre ordered this on my Xbox One. I was impressed with what they did honestlly and the fact that there was even amazing new characters like Hisako was great too. The combos are smoooooth af in this game
Killer instinct is one of my favorite fighting games and got me into the god like music of Celldweller. Don't regret a single second learning all the combos of my Sabrewulf and Spinal
Wait... no studios were closed, no bankruptcy, no one lost their job and livelihood, project wasn’t mismanaged, no publisher intrusions AND they avoided CRUNCH?! This is so hard to believe that I’m about cry tears of happiness.
@@ninochaosdrache3189 True story
@@Ineedgames i see what you did there
Add up that this game had EVERYTHING set to fail. Long hiatus? Check, beloved ip? Check, new developer? Check, time constrains? Check, little studio without experience in the genre? Check, little budget? Check, new business model? Check, change of developer? Check.
This game is a textbook example on how studios should overcome hard challenges and deliver amazing games. I really REALLY hope Microsoft bring a new K.I. for this new gen. Iron Galaxy can take the project.
I might of missed the line from this video, but based on other coverage of the game's development, it did go through some serious crunch. Between having a new studio having to pick up the development on the fly and things done for advertising they were had to push it to the limit.
Oh no, there was some nasty crunch going on. Iron Galaxy were given the game from double helix and had to not only learn how to program and design for the game, but also make TJ combo in a month. That is some serious crunch going on there.
But that did come about from unusual circumstances. It's not good, in fact it's pretty damn awful, but the management didn't completely fuck up, which is a rarity in modern gaming.
I'm not going to lie, I like it when we get the occasional "they overcame hell to make this happen and it worked" What happened? episodes.
We all do
Agreed
I didn't even know those existed
@@blurredlights5235 Doom 2016 is another episode like it, since apparently that game was actually in development for 7 years
I think Cuphead should be next in the lineup, it was made by few people, they had to quit their Jobs and remorgage their houses and it took them 7 years to make, and in the end it all worked out.
Nothing was like hearing ULTRAAAAAA COMBOOOOO boom across the arcade when the original came out. What a time to be alive.
Amen. :)
The soundtrack kicked so much ass
That takes me back, haha. I remember the excitement of watching a great player play KI in the arcade. I was never that good at Killer Instinct.... but it was awesome, the way people would gather around a great player in the arcade.
American arcade culture in the late 90s seems cool. I grew up in Japan at the time so we had our own thing going on but man. Poggers in the chat
@@KamenRaiden man it was epic. I lived in Japan shortly before this time and that was cool too but the American arcade experience was definitely something to behold. And then one day...it was just gone 😭
This game truly amazes me. It had all the signs to fail and did everything but.
God, I’m glad it didn’t. This is one of my favorite new fighters.
It was truly built with passion and fire. I guess you could say it was like catching lighting in a bottle.
Basically, Is the Melee of Microsoft: A fighting game who should have been a disaster or mediocre at best due to lack of time of development because it had to be console release, but it wasn't despite all of that.
This game is addictive. My first time on a Xbox console ( bought a Series X) but, not new to the franchise.
@@chancemitchell4147 this series is not new it's been around since 94
I've said it once, and I'll say it again, KI 2013 had no right to be as fucking good as it is. Hands down my favorite fighting game of all time.
I tried it and it was too complicated for me.
I've grown up on Tekken and it was great in its simplicity . You smash buttons, you do weak combos. You learn how to smash buttons correctly, you do better combos.
And this stuff instead offers some combo breakers, counter combo breakers, ultra combos with finishing blows, ultra combos without finishing blows, shadow stuff and more, and more, and more...
Still regret that I didn't manage to learn this stuff to start enjoying the game
Nah great gameplay but kinda barebones game overall
@@jerryjohn3815 Considering it was f2p originally and had more content than SF4 or 5 (at launch), it’s still pretty nutty.
@@GreedyDrunk92 I do recommend giving it another go. I had the luxury of growing up with many different fighting games 2D and 3D, but Tekken is what I’ve played the most as a youngin’. KI has a higher skill floor than Tekken imo (Tekken I would consider having a higher skill ceiling depending on your character of choice), but once you conquer that, KI is just batshit crazy fun.
18:57 Greetings from the distant year of 2024, Killer Instinct just got a 4K Series X update for the 10 year anniversary of the game. It’s also going free to play on Steam on top of already being one of the best games on Game Pass.
Spiderman Turn off the Dark would be a perfect non gaming topic for Matt & finally the opportunity for him to go Broadway
Yep
If you can’t wait there is a series called Wait in the Wings that did (IMO) the definitive history of that abomination
Remember in marvel vs capcom 3 deadpool referenced that 😅
If anyone can’t wait for Matt’s take on it, here is the comprehensive history of it.
th-cam.com/video/j6bxB9vTToQ/w-d-xo.html
Wait? So a couple of B-tier studios with not really much to their name were given a B-List title and managed to make a solid, fondly-remembered game?
So THAT'S what it looks like when competent, experienced, workman-like game designers actually get to their jobs instead of getting shit on by management!
The Collective put out some really criminally underrated games in their years. As Matt mentioned, the Buffy game (not the sequel Chaos Bleeds, please keep in mind), Indiana Jones and the Emporer's Tomb , the Strider reboot. None of the games were huge blockbusters, but they were better than most blockbusters AAA games of their times. I specifically remember Buffy having some of the best OG Xbox graphics around at the time. I definitely wouldn't say they were untalented, just missing their big break.
@@gilbertgonzalez9668 also that surprisingly great revenge of the sith tie in game.
Who else knew Max was just gonna come in here.
Like it’s so obvious he’s the KI guy.
Especially when he helped promoting the game
I mean... the title says "feat. Maximillian". So I'm pretty sure everyone knew.
I’m glad Max let Matt collab with him on his video! *wink*
@@sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608 I'm pretty sure the character trailers are all by himself
@@gusbabiski max worked on the trailers for season 2 and 3. Season 1 trailers were FANTASTIC and made by DH. Season 2 and 3 trailers were absolute dog shit.
Christ KI 2013 is an inspirational story, impossible odds but coming out on top
It's always nice to see games that despite having a rough development history turn out pretty great on "Wha Happun"
The music and sound design in this game is GODLIKE.
When your music is compose by the god of djent definitely
Well, it helped that seasons one and two were composed by Mick Gordon, a musical mad god. Atlas Plug and Celldweller had big shoes to fill for season three, but they did a excellent job.
The announcer's screaming really gives you the feel of accomplishment after a combo.
Both Double Helix and Iron Galaxy went together like peanut butter and jelly. It's important that we think of both of them when remembering and playing KI. The soul these guys put into this game is palpable. I adore them both for bringing back one of my childhood loves and defying all the odds to create such an amazing game that not only lives up the original, but surpasses it in every regard.
Still My Personal favorite of the Generation! :D
I remember 7 years ago Xbox seemed like the outright supervillains of gaming. Props to Spill Phencer for turning it around. And to Konami, EA, Bethesda, and the rest for being far more hateable.
@@matabishippuden6965 I think Nintendo's fine outside of the stupid limited time digital releases thing they suddenly started doing.
Sony's big issue is they've been making deals with Japanese devs that make anime titty games then all of a sudden decided such content is haram and forced them to censor way harder than even Nintendo. It's outright led to cancellations and has screwed over a number of niche studios.
@@MrSTVR Are you serious? Buddy, you have a lot of catching up to do with Nintendo. I'll give you this starter pack: Abusive copyright takedowns, the entirety of Nintendo Switch Online, Creators Program, Joycon drift issues still widespread nearly four years on, artificial scarcity, overpricing on ports/older games. You do the rest.
@@BabysitterSky Sony has taken the garbage crown lately imo.
@@BabysitterSky No interesting exclusives, botched Demon Souls remake, consoles bricking, constant censorship, atrocious TOS changes, etc.
@@BabysitterSky Good for you? Nothing in the PS5 lineup interests me so far.
This game was not only my first introduction to the KI series (I’ve known about the previous games but I never got to play them) but also to the musical god, Mick Gordon.
In regards to fighting game themed "Wha Happun", why not do one on SNK, as in the whole company? Don't get me wrong, they've made some all time classics and in recent years they've been on the road to recovery with games like The King of Fighters XIV, Samurai Shodown (2019), and Terry's appearance in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, but man have they made some astronomically poor decisions over their lifetime even to the point of them goin bankrupt on multiple occasions.
Terry "bout to slap 3 asses" Bogard
@@Zeboki that was so funny lol
Haha, The Hyper Neo Geo 64.
As I said, astronomically poor decisions
KOF 2001 would make a good episode, especially considering alot of things that were supposed to be in that game but got removed by Eolith.
Really hope Microsoft reconsiders giving KI more content; it really is one of the best fighting game series ever.
Also pretty premature to say this but can we agree that Metroid Prime 4 will likely be an episode subject in the future? No matter how amazing it ends up being, its development cycle from what we've heard has really been something so far to put it lightly.
It will be because development was restarted. Whether or not the game is good doesn't really matter for the show. That a really weird thing to happen after so long.
The only issue is that the info may never become public as Japanese developers don't talk with that stuff as openly as Western ones.
@@RusticRonnie well it is developed by retro studios, a texan studio whose employees have been very audible about how shitty it is work there and how much Nintendo mismanages them
@@RusticRonnie Specially since we have the same guy who produced the sequel to one of the greatest RPGs of all time: Tanabe, the creator of Sticker Star, a guy who always wanna innovate over making good games and refuses to listen feedback.
It also seems like a Metroid prime 4 video would mention something about Samus returns, there’s been some recent rumor that it’s receiving a switch port.
@@N12015 I just looked at what Tanabe has worked on and wow, some of Nintendo's worst games directly came from him
Ever since he became a producer, he made one bad decision after another with a few great games inbetween
This is one of my favorite games of all time. No fighting game has kept me engaged and kept me coming back like killer instinct. I still play it to this day
I’d love to see what happened to the Avengers game one day. I’m sure there’s a messy production history waiting to be discovered.
Sadly, we'll get in probably mid or late 2021. I was hyping that game up like crazy but I ultimately decided against buying it. All the gameplay I've seen is just repetitive button mashing. I wish so hard they gave that game the Arkham treatment.
It's 100% going to happen sometime , gotta wait and see if the game has a redemption in the next few months or if it's quietly pulled out to pasture. I imagine if you've watched a bunch of these "wha happen" episodes and hang around online enough .... you can probably guess how and where and why Avengers went wrong. For a sneak peak, check out Matt's episode on Anthem.
Deus Ex Mankind divided has more player on steamcharts than Avengers, you know, eidos montreal single player game that came out 5years ago, let that sink in
@@ratamahatta5306 Mankind Divided is such an underrated gem. It's like Human Revolutions but they fixed all the crappy parts with it, like the boss fights.
This video got me to download this game. As a huge MK mark I gotta say, playing KI for the first time is like a breath of fresh air. This game rules!
This game, and the teams that made it all come together without any negative side-effects, feels like a SUPREME VICTORY to me.
Another lovely story of a game having everything stacked against it but still coming out a success.
The Combo Breaker/Counter Breaker gag was gdlike. Thanks so much for giving me another chance to speak about a project that was so near and dear to me and many other on the teams. #BringBackKI
Loved Killer Instinct since the 1st one in the arcades. Was very excited to see KI come back. Thank you.
KI2 when?!
11:11 really caught me off guard lol
I don't get it. They just cut to a photo of the guy without his glasses on??
OMG I think my head split in two for half a second
@@Secondary_Identifier It's Chad Kroeger from the infamous rock band Nickelback which has a negative reputation and generated quite a bit of memes on the internet.
@@CheesePotato r/whoosh
🤣 Max said "Oh hell naw!".
Mick Gordon’s score is so good... I still listen to TJ and Hisako’s theme.
And aganos and The Arbiter's and Arias
TJ's theme showed up in my TH-cam mix one day, and I had to tab back and see where it came from, I was instantly bopping to it.
Omen’s Theme is top tier
I listen to Hisako's theme all the time. It's so sick.
littleV also worked with him
Killer Instinct has always been my favorite fighting game series. To bad it doesn't have the recognition other gaming franchises have such as Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Tekken, and others.
killer instinct and primal rage for LIIIIIFE
Killer instinct 2013 is my favorite fighting game and I think it’s combo system that is basically “shared” between all characters makes its fighting mechanics some of the best of all time. I really hope Microsoft makes a killer instinct sequel
still one of my fav fighting games to this day alongside the original
Agreed. Woefully underrated game!
@@DarthG33k Underrated ?????
SF5 was a big FIASCO
@@remyroland8016 I'm confused. What does SF5 have to do with KI being underrated?
Killer Instinct is the best fighting game of last generation.
Easy.
I would say tekken is but they really dropped the ball on balancing
Agreed.
Personally, this is my favorite fighting game. I listen to the soundtrack on a daily basis.
#bringbackki
KI sequel on Series X/PC w/cross-play would be perfect.
I still have the original music CD that came my SNES copy of KI :)
Killer Cuts, it was called
Seeing this live when I went to EVO. That crowd was awesome and the huge noises and announcer made it even better.
I hope that one day you'll make a What Happened all about Conker. I'm sure that a lot could be said about him. And, but this is just wishful thinking, about Battlefield Earth, if only because there's SO much stuff that went wrong while making that movie.
Or he could go for the Battleship: the movie: the game, the one where a WWII Destroyer defeated an advanced Alien Spaceship.
@Dragonlope Thanks! I'll do it now.
Its. Clear what happened to Conner. Not much needs saying. He was a product of the time and rare is dead now.
Or the Will Smith movie After Earth he did with his son
That Wha Happen? probably go something like Conker goes from a kid friendly gameboy game and Diddy Kong Racing character to insane Bad Fur Day game, then Bad Fur Day game gets a remaster on Xbox, and then years later they make some weird augmented reality Conker game I saw in a trailer but never played.
You know, a fighting game that managed to have a 4-year lifespan, especially when the start is very tumultuous and chaotic, is actually really impressive.
A story of people planning, executing that plan, being freaking professionals with the hand off... it's just beautiful.
Wasn’t expecting this game to be in this series
Was this really a Wha Happun? Felt more like a dual fan hype video. Which is fine, but not what I'd expect from this series either. "Team makes decent game" seems kind of a mediocre pitch for a wha happun.
@@thetaarakian it already has been said in other episodes that the series is not only for flops, but for other projects that shouldn't have worked, but did anyway, like a reverse flop, just watch the Demon's Souls video for example
@@thetaarakian and not only that, but not crush, no over the budget, no massive fire, no player outrage, no delays and no killer gliches.
yeah KI 2013 was not a Flop
Even if what the replies are saying is true, then that intro is pretty misleading about the series' concept.
KI's always gonna have a special place in my heart.
I was never good at this game, but I enjoyed many hours playing against my boyfriend- who put so much time in that he ended up as a mod on the KI forums. We're married now and he still loves the game. And yes, Hisako waifu was my go to. XD
2013 to 2018 was an amazing time to be a KI fan. The character reveals, tournaments, music and community were all so good.
This is probably the smoothest wha Happun ever.
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Dude I literally have goosebumps over my entire body right now. I don't play KI, but god damn if it isn't one of the hypest fucking games to watch. This game DESERVES to continue onward. Microsoft need to give it a Series X version and announce a new season. I don't want it to just be relegated to side tournaments and be a 'what if' in the industry. I want KI to combo breaker my ass into oblivion and become a fighting game empire. #BringBackKI
@@TexasHollowEarth That's the problem with Microsoft. They don't view the Xbox as a true gaming machine, but as a multimedia hub. They have access to so many great IP's, but lack the focus and dedication to pure gaming to do anything meaningful with them. It's exactly why Sony's PS will ALWAYS be the more successful gaming console.
@@donkeydarko77 What are you talking about? That was them in 2013 but certainly not anymore..
@@ronnieradon lol ok Ron. Not only do they not have any dedicated Series X titles out now, the only titles they've shown gameplay of are CoD/Halo FPS clones.
@@donkeydarko77 what about all the ones that don't have gameplay reveals yet? like the new Fable game? doesn't seem like it would be FPS to me lol. besides.. i mean.. games are games, i was replying to your comment about how they only care about the whole multimedia thing.
@@ronnieradon "...that don't have gameplay reveals yet." Exactly.
One of my favorite games ever. I will never forget how much fun I had playing this.
Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood must have a fascinating story.
We don't mention that in which was yeeted from existence.
I would do a Whu Happun? on Archie Comics and how they handled Sonic te Hedgehog for maximum insanity.
@@RadikAlice More like a What Happun to the Lara-Su Chronicles, it suddenly stopped and the Freedom Fighters still haven't made an appearance in the "Pendersverse".
I'm sure the sponsor of the video did a wonderful Senran Kagura art book. Too lazy to go upstairs to check my copy to see if they did. Edit: checked my copy, they did.
is it coom worthy
@@koumorichinpo4326 anything is coom worthy if you try hard enough
@@pimper7000 Yes, the 5 dollar note is my favourite material.
*Chokes*
That's for you to decide. Tbh.
Just snatched this game on Steam, haven’t put it down since, I love this game.
#bringbackKI
Lol Matt did the Joke that everyone fears to do. Turned Max into Nickleback for a moment lol.
Thanks for the reference
I am not a music guy XD
Was just binging watching older vids of yours and BAM. That fresh content. Truly blessed.
Hey Matt, not sure if you will see this, but I wanted to comment on the noticeable increase in production quality in these What Happened videos. There is a lot more animation, new artwork, and that opening keeps getting more complex. I like what you are doing and it feels good to support a creator that strives to improve their product as much as you do. Jason (the editor as per the last screen) is doing an amazing job.
Teared up. I love this game and this franchise. It's such a fantastic love letter to music, sound design, characters, fun, and fighting games. Somewhere in my dna (you could say, my double helix huehue) there's KI logo's imprinted on every strand. I'm proud to have been a fan of it, have the world's largest KI collection, and be a part of the amazing community that has been created since it's inception. #BringbackKI #LongLiveKI
I'm so glad I got to Skype with James Goddard after Shadow Lords came out. It is the highest point of my gaming life. I got to influence a portion of my favorite series of all time through him after I broke the game mode so badly a couple of my clips managed to catch his attention and we chatted about how to fix some of the things I found. It was such an amazing moment and wouldn't have happened if KI wasn't such a community passion project.
God, I remember when Killer Instinct first came out during the dinosaur times I stood in the arcade just mesmerised by the "advanced" graphics. Like, I thought games would pretty much look like that forever because where else was there to go? Man, technology is crazy.
KI Remake is a fantastic game and I hope and pray it does come back for different gaming consoles. By the way the KI Remake soundtrack is fucking fantastic and is one of my favorites.
Man, this game was a legit miracle. In any other hands. The game would have been a huge failure on par with Dookie Nookie Forever.... But instead, we somehow got a masterpiece in the fighting game genre. I can't stress enough how amazing both dev teams were with this game. They deserve so much praise.
2:54 Okay but the way that Banjo opened his eyes just strikes fear into my soul.
Remembered playing KI and KI2 in the arcades, and doing those insane combos. Then recently a friend found a copy of KI2 for the 64. Its been almost 22 years since, I played this game and I managed to do those insane combos like it was yesterday man. The smile on my face was priceless.
A testament to both studios that they managed to achieve so much with so few resources and under those conditions.
I’m a PlayStation and Nintendo guy but if Microsoft makes Killer Instinct 2 for Series X’S I might just buy one down the road.
Given the amount of money they are throwing around, it is just a matter of time.
The game is on pc, via the Ms store and steam, Ms store version has cross play with consoles.
Me too. I was thinking about buying a ps5 or series X. I'm new to KI I've never played it before. It looks more fun than MK.
@@Flyingsandwiches-nr1zc it is tons fun, combos are great, each character is unique (no Ryu, Ken and Akuma situation ) and in mp there is a lot of mind games with combo breakers and counter breakers.
this game is absolutely amazing. Arguably one of the best fighting games out there and the best fighting game to start playing fighting games.
Max's reaction to the KI reveal is still one of my favorite videos on the internet.
As someone who owns Killer Instinct on Super NES which I still have I was super excited when it was announced on Xbox One and was my primary reason to finally purchasing one with no regrets it was a fun game and still is! 🙎♂️
I remember playing this on stream. Had some fun, loved the Mick Gordon OST.
This game and Mortal Kombat 9 are the prime examples of how to do a proper reboot. Killer Instinct is my childhood and the new one is my welcome back to an old friend
I really didn't pay much attention to this game at first, I thought it was going to flop hard with that business model. I'm glad I was wrong, they did an amazing job.
Nice to see you two Collab, I'm happy this video really shows how great and unique the story behind KI 2013 was.
Thank you both for finally explaining to me why tf there was a amazing free game with only 1 playable character and for giving me a reason to go back and buy it.
I remember when my local arcade growing up received KI 1 arcade cabinet. For about a month nobody wanted to play it and just stuck to games like Samurai Showdown, Tekken, and MK. One day 2 kids just started playing and slowly interest shifted away from MK and Tekken but went back playing them occasionally for kids to take on the number one player.
It’s very cool that everyone’s goal in this project was to make the _best damn game possible._
Well, 3 years later... 10 Year update... uh... I think KI 2013 is back BAYBEE!!
Mick is a beast. A god teir ost that put him on the map thanks to this game.
20:25 That callout tickles me something fierce.
Good to hear of a story that, generally, has a lot of good backstory to it, despite the issues that do plague it along the way. Last one in this series I recall having a wholesome progression is Demon's Souls, which...
...well, we know how that turned out now.
I'd like to nominate The Quiet Man for a rundown. What the hell happened with that game?
@@8Kazuja8 tbh The Quiet Man's concept *can* work, the biggest problem being how you do it. The Quiet Man was done in a way that made it inaccessible to even abled players until you beat the game once after a patch was released, and outright offensive at worst with how inconsistently it portrayed deafness.
But at the same time, that makes it a top-tier example of how to *not* handle or portray disability in media. Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice this is not.
That was the most pretentious bs I've ever seen in my life
@@8Kazuja8 tbh I think it's pretty obvious that they never consulted any deaf people during production.
I think its gimmick *can* work, but the way how The Quiet Man handled it was wholly awful. It's inaccessible to deaf people, it's inaccessible to non-deaf(?) people and the way how its creator explained the gimmick was pretentious as hell. I think it was something about thinking back to when you were a baby and didn't understand language, which is just... what.
I bet all the info will be kept quiet.
“Double Helix”.
*Homecoming flashbacks*
Oh god no... This could easily go one of two ways....
Name me a better gaming duo than these two
...I'm of course referring to Max and Killer Instinct
Oh my god. I had no idea these fighting game documentaries existed. Thank you so much. I was like 14 when the first Killer Instinct hit arcades, and have very fond memories of it. Even more for the sequel.
Ayy what a duo max and mcmuscles. Love the video! And the guest max is awesome! Keep it up :)
I just got this game and, I'm shocked to say this, I've had more fun with this than I did with Netherrealm's past titles for the last 6 years. I haven't had so much fun with a fighting game in SO LONG.
To the developers of this fantastic, no, ULTIMATE game, I bow my head and tip my hat. You truly have my respect, and I don't often give respect to most people.
Really hope that we get a new KI game on Xbox Series X or maybe even a guest spot in Super Smash Brothers (perhaps Jago or Fulgore).
I'd rather they continue the current KI than risk rebuilding a new game from the ground up.
Already bad that KI was under a budget.
Man, it really is worth noting and repeating that Double Helix pulled one hell of a turnaround as a developer. They were universally dismissed or outright hated for just seemingly churning out unimaginative, mediocre crap, then put out two totally stellar revivals of two dead but beloved IP’s. I mean, who would have thought the developer behind Silent Hill: Homecoming would make _this_ ? It’s really quite the redemption arc. And then running off of that is Iron Galaxy’s ascension from joke-fighter developer to “so fucking legit, it hurts”. This game really is kind of a minor miracle when you think about it.
Started playing it a few days ago. LOVE IT!
Im still amazed of how after surviving what could be a declared path for defeat. This game also brought us some characters we didnt expect in fighting games and delivered them so well. Yes Im talking about Rash, Arbiter and RAAM, maybe Rash was the closer to what we see in fighting games but still the team at Iron Galaxy knew how to introduce those dudes with fitting gameplay and they dont look out of place in KI.
So essentially, it had rolled a Nat20 on everything other than the Dev change and longevity.
One of my favorite What Happened? episodes. KI is fucking amazing.
I'd actually love to see an episode on The Phantom Pain, though I'm not sure how much info is actually available about its development.
The fans made sure this game would not fail! And we will do so, Everytime it comes to Killer Instinct!
Let's be honest: This was made to tell Microsoft we need a proper "Killer Instinct Sequel" on the Series X/S. Something to which I'm all for.
That and it is actually nice to see a "What happened?" episode for a game that didn't go completely wrong. At least from what I can tell since outside of the launch of six characters, KI had a hell of a run.
Also I learned recently from a documentary by hold back to block that the original KI made the Ultra combo and Combo Breaker sounds about 40% LOUDER than the sound volume level set in the test menu by the arcade operator. A very clever way of attracting attention. I just... LOVE goofy arcade stuff like this
I wish they would do another Killer Instinct game. We need it.
One of the best shows on youtube. So much dedication and quality in this series.
KI is almost a 10 year old game, yet it has the best netcode of any fighting game ever!. I wish fighting games devs would learn from there example. i am so sick of buying a new fighting game just for the online to suck really hard (looking at you dragonball fighterz)
Maximilian is synonymous with killer instinct to me. I used to watch him all the time in 2013.
7:44 Legit was arguing with someone on Yahtzee's Zero Punctuation list of most influencial games of 2010s how this model alone made KI worthy for that list. Someone argued back to me that this is not the case because "they never heard of the game" :/
For real. SFV totally crimped their model lol
@@samquik Everyone did. Smash even, Mortal Kombat to a point, ArcSys, etc. It's a good way to prolong good games.
There WAS a small patch for Xbox Series S|X, though it explicitly clarifies it was for performance tweaking and added no new content or balancing whatsoever. But it's still SOMETHING at least.
With Microsoft now owning Bethesda, it'd be the perfect time to revive KI and pump it up with new content. Just imagine the Doom Slayer or Corvo as fighters. It'd be almost too perfect.
Microsoft has said themselves they want to bring KI back, they know the demand is there, but there are simply no studios free right now with any experience in fighting games, sadly.
@@MattMcMuscles Damn. At least Microsoft is keeping the dream alive ol
Best arcade moment of all time for me was watching my little brother playing this when he was about 10, working to beat the arcade mode with Orchid when a guy twice his age walk up, pop his quarters in, and take over. My brother kicked his butt. Guy swore up a storm, popped more quarters in, and not only got his ass kicked again, but was finished with an Ultra. Jerked was sweating life his life depended on finding new words to use, grabbed his quarters and stormed off.
My brother proceeded to beat the game and see the ending. Never been so proud. He was quite good at the game. :-)
i hated crap like that in the arcades there were always punks like that in the arcades my arcades were always good about kicking people like that out when they were discovered ..there was a version of mk2 or 3 that if you beat someone in 2 player it counted for story mode and my bro was like 11 and had tons of people trying to stomp him cause he was a kid that he never fought the computer except for the end but i remember it got to the point where they gave the kids their own section with diff cabnients which had things like lowered difficulty and the like
I remember playing this at a secret event in London.
Me and my friend (he doesn't speak to me anymore) end up making the characters froze but could only do their taunts... good times 🤣
11:11 🤣🤣🤣 Can't Unsee
Whoa you froze the game that's actually insane 😂
@@mysticphoenix1987 Yeah, it was a early build too
Bro we used to play Killer instinct Gold on N64 with the volume on max. Every cookout and block party everybody heard that shit from my crib and everybody and they grandma wanted next on the sticks
The KI Classic was the first figghting game i ever got interested in on my N64. Fucking LOVED it. Instantlly pre ordered this on my Xbox One. I was impressed with what they did honestlly and the fact that there was even amazing new characters like Hisako was great too. The combos are smoooooth af in this game
Killer instinct is one of my favorite fighting games and got me into the god like music of Celldweller. Don't regret a single second learning all the combos of my Sabrewulf and Spinal
i bought the definitive edition this last sunday, expecting nothing, and holy shit, what an amazing fighting game.
You and Max should do more. This was cool. I like the both of you, so having you both together is like switching back and forth.