When someone mentions the 80's and 'cosmos', I can't help thinking of the Carl Sagan series. "There are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on all the beaches on Earth", or something like that. Oh, and greets to Mr Scissors: 8X
There are days I think you are reading my mind. I was thinking about different distros today, You've given me a few I didn't know about, but one of them sounds perfect for one of my projects.
These OS's are a good example of how the RPi 4 is significantly more powerful than the previous RPi models. I appreciate how the Raspberry Pi foundation is taking its time to deliver hardware and software that's stable. They know their SBC's quite well, so they can watch the advancement of the tech, and take advantage of it at the right time/price point. Hope I can get my hands on a RPi 4 soon, it seems every time I go to order a 4GB, they're (still) out of stock. Thanks for another great video Chris.
I had to paint my work barn and office in it today. Sooo now I sit back after dinner and etruly enjoying yet another awesome video. Thank you immensely Sir Christopher of Nottingham!
Great to see all this Linux goodness. The Pi 4 seems to be coming along very nicely indeed and you do a wonderful job showcasing all the hard work that many dedicated folks put in, often for free. Exciting times and look forward to more magic and wizardry from one of the best channels on TH-cam :) Thank you
#2 is used on replacement auto sheet metal repairs . it grooves two pieces of metal to overlap each other then you spot weld the two pieces. It attaches to a air impact hammer. Joel
I got my Pi 4 a couple of days ago and I'm completely new to all of this, but I'm glad you mentioned the video playback issue. I'm getting screen tearing in Raspbian with Chromium and VLC. LibreELEC hardware decoding works perfectly though.
Two additional notes: 1. Ubuntu for the Pi 4 is now available. Both 32 and 64 bit versions are available. Another TH-camr, ETA Prime, has recently released a video covering this. 2. The release of 64 bit Raspbian may seem unexciting but let me theorize why this could be a great thing going forward. Without getting super technical, it is worth mentioning that 32 bit operating systems can only work with about 3 gigabytes of RAM. But the Pi 4 has up to 4GB so to make all of the RAM accessible in 32 bit Raspbian Buster a workaround had to be implemented. That workaround only gets you a max of 4GB. The 64 bit operating system can address much, much more RAM than that so my theory is that with the 4GB memory barrier removed we may see future Pi 4 models (4B+ perhaps) with more than 4 GB of RAM. Much more. Raspberry Pi officials have stated affordable memory chips greater than 4GB could not be sourced and keep the Pi cost where it is currently so they stopped at 4GB. But, I would be happy to pay up to $100 for an 8GB Pi 4.
Oh, one more note about RAM in the Pi 4, I think I read where the Broadcom Sytem on a Chip (SoC) which houses the processor cores, video core, GPIO, PCIe, and such can handle up to 16GB of RAM. The 64-bit operating system can address much more so this is a SoC limitation, but still, 16GB is jaw dropping in the Pi world. Maybe we’ll see it. Who knows.
Exciting times indeed! Recently I was researching some distros for Rπ thinking to test & taste raspberry flavours with different distros on top. Today I've got a gift! Excellent video Chris! 😁👌🏻
Greetings! You introduced me with this video to the "DietPi" Distro. Since then, I've been adding installations on RPpi as well as on old PCs, for leisure as well as for work. Totally awesome. Many thanks!
Great Video Prof. Chris! And very timely as well! I have my first Rasp.Pi on the way here on order from Amazon even now as I write this, and it's good to see what options are available at this time. Fantastic! I think I'll be sticking with the 64-Bit Raspbian for now... Thanks again for the great video and all the effort and time you put into Explaining Computers videos!!
A good representative selection that you have provided us with ! Manjaro sounds to be a useful "all-round" distribution ! As regards 64-bit, PiLFS now have a 64-bit version for people who want to build their own operating system ! Anyone tempted note that there are quite a lot of steps - last one that I built took me a fortnight in-between other things... But yes, a great selection Chris, and Manjaro certainly sounds a safe bet until Raspbian 64-bit fully gets off the ground. Thanks for this useful primer into 64-bit on the Pi !
My Raspbian not showing 32 or 64 bit version? Linux raspberrypi 4.19.97-v7l+ #1294 SMP Thu Jan 30 13:21:14 GMT 2020 armv7l GNU/Linux I'm guessing it is 64bit but the command uname -a doesn't specify.
I've used both OMV and LibreELEC in the past. I should mention OctoPrint for those who have a 3D Printer. I bought a Monoprice Maker Select Plus back in April, which doesn't have Wi-Fi connectivity, and I keep it in my hobby room where I build plastic models as well as do other things. Hooking it up to a RPi and installing OctoPrint changes that. It allows you to manage and monitor prints over a network through a web UI, and also an app. Although I believe there is a plugin to print from anywhere (I've just not tried it). For those who use AstroPrint--there's a plugin for that, too.
OctoPrint is interesting, as it not only controls your printer, but you can't even turn the printer on and off using the switch, if you are running it. The slight downside is that it is written in Python 2.
Dr. Barnatt, you continue to impress and amaze with your consistently great videos providing always delicious, useful, clear, practical, and objective, information, recommendations and expert advise. That you do so with such regular good humor is even more remarkable. And all of it for free! As long as you are able to keep doing it, I will keep watching it. Thank you and best wishes. So today thanks to you, I ordered the RPi 4B, Ice cooler, etc. to add to my collection of SBC's, and I look forward to trying these OS alternatives. But I DID NOT order the blue LED version of the cooler. There should be an international law against blue LED's, which are known to interfere with sleep, and probably tortures pets. Amber should be the gold standard. So I ordered the multi-color RGB fan-version, complete with a colorful case option, but I would have ordered amber if I had found it. With any luck at all, there will be software control of the RGB color choices. In any case, there should always be a way to shut off the LEDs since they provide little if any value for their power consumption. www.ebay.com/itm/52Pi-V2-0-RGB-ICE-Tower-CPU-Cooling-Fan-5-Layer-Acrylic-Case-for-Raspberry-Pi-4B/223680248136?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=522401408281&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
Try force enabling hardware acceleration in firefox about:config. Firefox on Linux doesn't support hardware acceleration out of the box for some reason.
@@jmshrv Setting the 'media.hardware-video-decoding.force-enabled' to 'true' in about:config solved the issue for me. Was the first thing I did after noticing the issue on my Pi 4 running Manjaro.
I have learned a lot in the last week about the inner workings of development in the Pi community and it has revealed a lot is was surprised about including how lazy broadcom had been like RockChip and AMLogic. They are all freeloaders of the community expecting it to do all the heavy lifting. Quit sad really.
They updated the hardware a lot, including the video output, but hamstrung it with software-only rendering in the majority of cases. Kinda surprised they did that instead of better hardware support.
AFAIK video acceleration is working on stuff like LibreELEC. Firefox doesn't support hardware acceleration on Linux so Chromium built with VA-API support will probably provide a better experience on the RPi4.
Greetings! After two "SBC" installations with/for enthusiastic neighbors (A small Pine64 and a Raspberry Pi 4 2Go - No fees, it's community fun) with DietPi for indoor file sharing (Tonido was finally chosen by these two families of saeveral teenagers, I do hope there is no security problem here), I'm getting ready to update my own tiny home server (a RPi 3B+), with an RPi 4 4Go and (of course!) DietPI. NextCloud will be available again at home, within the next few weeks; I am courious to see the results of this "hardware upgrade"... Thanks again for discovering this great distribution!
Manjaro is severely underrated. It's by far the best distro for light devices. I flashed it on an ASUS Nexus from 2012 and worked wonders until last year when it bricked.
So Manjaro works on Intel systems too? I know very little about it. But I did recently buy a budget Lenovo IdeaPad to try and switch over to Linux. Might give Manjaro a run.
Thanks professor Christopher the pi4b is looking better than it did before on your first visit to it getting better support for the choices of OS you can use .
Is it possible to review CPU load and temperature characteristics of the operating system distros reviewed in this video? I noticed a big difference between idle Raspbian (37 C cpu temp) and and idle Open Media Vault (57 C) on the same hardware with the same cooler.
When I tried running some docker stuff, including mysql (or mariadb) 32-bit raspbian created all kinds of problems for me. It was Manjaro to the rescue. Truely 64-bit, full aarch64 OS, everything installs & upgrades painlessly. It's soo good that i really don't feel the need to go back & see if raspbian64 is any good.
Manjaro KDE itself seems slow. Kodi is too specialized, OMV won't run for more than a day or so for me without requiring total re-install and wiping disks. Is dietpi 32 or 64?
Does Raspbian support NEON SIMD instructios ? Especially the 64 bit kernel version ? Is the Ubuntu Mate distro for the Raspberry Pi 2 compiled with NEON support ?
There seem to be a lot of bugs with TH-cam right now. Like the comment editor in Studio Beta not showing more than 4 words! So here I am in Classic, which is due to disappear entirely this week!
At this stage I think you should put up a full length video on playing with and configuring the diet pi os just to show how far you can take it .thanks professor Chris
The 64bit version of Raspbian is actually 64bit kernel with 32bit userland, which is not fully leverage the advantages of 64bit architecture. There is unofficial ubuntu server 64bit image for Rpi4, can you try on that?
I run LibreELEC on my for playing 4k media, so damn flawless it isn't funny! The the fan shim, 4k made it run pretty hot but that thing keeps it extra cool. Zero issues.
DietPi seems to provide an ARMv6 image which is quite old/obsolete. I assume the reason is compatibility with older Raspberry Pi models. I wasn't aware of the aarch64 version for raspbian, thank you.
Well as for the ARM 64-Bit support for Raspbian I hope they will have Vulkan API support as well smoother performances for 4K, as well some fixes for Firefox ESR - that appears to crash quite often in Raspbian
Great to see updates like that to the RasPi 4. Now an important question is - what happened to the power port? Have they sent you an updated version with the proper two resistors yet? I am still waiting for them to fix this before I buy a RasPi 4..
Well, nice to see some options for our new raspberry pi, but would be nice if you could do a compilation of what options there is for those who want command line only for server usage and where you only connect power and network cable. I have been using the system from armbian and get very annoyed everytime I shall setup raspian where it sucks in many ways compared to armbian. Ubuntu server is one option but it is not so friendly compared to armbian.
tl;dr; Manjaro XFCE edition on Rpi4 is amazing, way better than Raspian in terms of general daily computing. My laptop, xps 13, recently stopped working. Until it was fixed I was happily using RPi4 as my main computer. I wasn't aware that other distros were available for it, so I used Raspian for two weeks or so, and I was underwhelmed by this experience. After watching this video, I switched to Manjaro, which knocked my socks off!. I do most of my work on the command line and through web browser etc. So, after using Manjaro, I can say that Rpi4 can certainly be a desktop replacement for me! Thanks EC for this great review video!
Hi Chris, thanks for your excellent work. I've played around DietPi for a few days now, It seems to be excellent for tinkering about, which is how a lot of us learn things - particularly as you get over 50 ! Also, it bridges very nicely between a desktop GUI and it's terminal based config applications - which is great for those of use still weary of using terminals. Perhaps a video dedicated to DietPi would be well received ? I'm sure most Raspberry Pi's have been purchased as a learning tool/Linux play thing. Thanks again
Since you mentioned you were using the Ice Tower, a couple of questions if I may. How noisy is it? Did you ever find a case to fit it? I ask because I originally bought a CanaKit case with fan and it's noisy. I am currently using a Flirc case and it works pretty well passively but I'm really jonesing for the ice tower with a case. :)
Do any of these work with Redshift or f.lux? I'm a night person and the lack of blue light blocking is preventing me from switching to the Pi4 full time. If someone can help me I would really appreciate it!
Finally just got my Pi 4! Not real happy with the Raspbian version I tried in a VM on my PC (software I add with the provided add software utility usually never shows up in the launch menus at all, so I can never find it after installing it and the convoluted "apt-get" CLI program to get any updates is clunky compared to the nice utilities provided in most other Linux distributions), so want to install Manjaro instead... You skipped a few steps of how to actually install this on a Pi in your video, like what to do with the "img" file after extracting it from the "xz" archive from the web site? Do i just write it as is to the SD card (which I presume still needs to be in FAT32 format?) and then boot my Pi? Thanks!
Use Etcher to install image files to an SD card for a Pi. I did not cover it here as I've done so many times before -- eg see from about 6 minutes into this video: th-cam.com/video/bpvlEbdA6qI/w-d-xo.html If I've cover installing each OS in this video it would have done on forever. :) Good luck!
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks! I got it, actually installed Raspbian on a separate SD card so installed and tried both it and Manjaro. Like the PC version of Raspbian, I wasn't really happy with the fact that the ARM version only open up a few configuration settings - not nearly as many as Manjaro and most other Linux distributions provide. I wasn't even able to configure the mouse pointer to be easily seen on the small monitor I have the Pi plugged up to nor figure out how to add my wi-fi printer - both things I could do rather easily on Manjaro. Yeah, I understand that Raspbian and the Pi itself were designed for complete novices but as a power user the lack of exposure to configuration controls that I know have to exist drives me nuts! -:) I was rather surprised to see my Pi and its cooling fan still lit up and spinning long after I'd unplugged the main power supply - I guess pulling some juice from the HDMI connection? I was also trying to figure out if there was any easy way to get the Pi to boot again after shutting it down, without unplugging and then reconnecting the power supply? Seems pretty clunky to have to do that, to get it to boot up again... I have my new Pi 4 in an inexpensive Geekpi.com case, with heat sinks on all of the big chips and a very small fan. I can't find any utilities under Manjaro that I can add to actually measure the chip temperature like you did in your cooling videos. (The Ice Tower is still totally sold out on Amazon here, and they claim to have no idea when it might be available again). I'll go back and look at your cooling videos again, to see the details of the command you were using to get this - so maybe I can find it in the Manjaro "add/remove software" database. Just curious how may current configuration is keeping it cool. Next month I'll try to get a camera module and begin prototyping the software end of the DIY security video camera that Linux Tech Tips showed how to make recently - in their case with a Pi-zero. I want to get the software all set up and tested on the Pi 4 before getting a zero to use in the real application. Most commercial home security camera systems these days only want to work with smart phone apps, not traditional surveillance software systems like iSpy and many others provide. I want a camera that can upload still images via FTP or live streams with RTSP - which few of the modern camera systems for home use can actually do. Embarrassing that my one 15 year old IP wi-fi camera can do this way better and more reliably than my modern WYZE cameras can (only using some of their "unsupported" and pretty unreliable beta firmware). Keep up the good work Christopher, and thanks again!
I'm pretty impressed with the performance of my (4GB) Pi 4 with Manjaro, which does things like video playback a lot better than the (I think 1.9GHZ) Atom processor in my Minix micro, fan-less Windows 10 PC does. Just about anything I do on the Pi 4 responds more consistently and crisply than anything on the Minix Windows PC does - probably because Linux isn't hauling as much baggage around as Windows does. I did run into one weird thing though where attempting to play a TH-cam video in Firefox (just inside the browser window, not full screen) completely blanked the whole display until I powered the system off and rebooted it. Thankfully Chromium didn't have the same problem and plays TH-cam videos (on a small 1600x900 display) very nicely. Still haven't found anything that can measure the Pi's CPU temperature under Manjaro since I could not successfully recompile the "userland" utilities that contain the "vcgencmd" command (due to build script errors under Manjaro) and discovered that other utilities such as "psensor" that are supposed to show CPU and motherboard temperatures obviously have no clue how to get that information on a Pi 4. Oh well...
@@ExplainingComputers Seems like this could run smoothly and it is 64bit manjaro.org/download/arm/raspebery-pi-4/arm8-raspberry-pi-4-xfce/ Would be nice to test and see if the video sample will reproduce better. ;-)
Another great video Christopher. I again learned a lot. I never tried DietPi. And I didn't know it was possible to run Raspbian in arm64. I'll have to try that. Great info. I made a video about installing Mate on Ubuntu 19.10 server on the Raspberry Pi 4. There are some issues, but it does run well. HDMI sound doesn't work right yet, and for me 4GB disables USB. So I've got to limit to 3074MB. Still ok for a Raspberry Pi. The biggest advantage of Ubuntu 19.10 is that it uses mainline kernel 5.3 instead of the Raspberry kernel, and it has the latest software versions. And it's faster for my tasks than Debian Buster. Because of its limitations it doesn't yet fit in this list. But it is great to see this happening for the Raspberry. I hope they'll fix the issues soon. I must say I like the RK3399's so much more than the RPi4 for so many reasons. I also had a lot of problems with my capture device. For terminal I had to use my hdmi splitter. But for desktop use that gave an empty black display. So then I had to run it thru the capture device, but it only worked with 4k resolution. So I had to enlarge everything. So I know what you menth with having to reboot a lot for your capture device :) Have a great evening, greetings.
Hi Nico. It sounds like we share in the joys of recording from SBCs. :) I will checkout your Ubuntu video. Like you, I am increasingly impressed by some of the RK3399 boards.
What capacity memory card is to be bought for these operating systems? Manjaro 64-bit for example? Does Zorin OS ultimate/ultimate lite have an Arm image?
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks for Replying Brother.👍🏼🙏🏼 There's no option to add an external HDD to multiboot different OSs? Still no Option for multiple ARM OSs be Installed in different Partitions on Maybe a higher Capacity SD card? Err... Zorin OS 15.1 Ultimate launched only with 64-bit. 32-bit launched only recently. Core and Education and now Including the Lite Version of Ultimate 64-bit no 32-bit. Maybe ARM version not ready/out yet?😕 Manjaro XFCE flavor have you tried it on the Pi4 4GB? Any difference in the performance KDE Plasma vs XFCE? Also kind of a Noob Question Does it Have Capacity to use a Part of the SD card as swap space? Sorry for the 101 questions, but would be good to know so I can plan accordingly what to purchase in the near future.
@@MICKYLEAKSMGR-PRESIDENTCJWORLD A Pi 3B+ can boot from USB. A Pi 4 currently cannot, but the option is promised for the future . . . XFCE Manjaro does run better on a Pi than Plasma. :)
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks once again for the info! Oh No wonder 3B is still going for sale online. I just went through download of Zorin OS 15.1 there's no 32-bit like I said in some editions! See they've launched something called Zorin Grid! No ARM version link I can find on the official page, but I confirm again there's 64-bit of the OS editions like I said including the ultimate guess some developers haven't got down to porting to ARM. Enjoying Your Videos as always! VPN and Secure NAS options need to be hardened for people especially NOW!
I would be curious how well the Pi4 runs a Minecraft Server, esp. if the 64 bit version is faster even with only 4GB Ram. Minecraft runs on Java 32 or 64 bit. I like to run Minecraft with the Lotr-mod (Lord of the Rings). It's super awesome.
The Raspbian 64-bit version would be handy for those of us that use files that are exceeding 4GB in size. I've never tested 32-bit Linux with that constraint, but I know Windows was never happy with huge files in 32-bit.
Thanks for this nice video Christopher. I'm new in the world off Single Board Computer. I have some experiences with Arduino. So I have some questions. Do you have experiences with OktoPi, a distribution with OktoPrint included. And then a stupid question, for the GPIOs on the RPI and other SBC is there a Microprocessor like an Arduino behind and are there 8, 16 or 32 bit like SM32 or ESP32. Thanks if anybody answer the question.
Great video, nice operating systems, interesting improvements ahead, I like to use berryboot, so I can run multiple os on an SSD, the current pi 4 version is a bit touch and go, but when it's sorted it will finally replace my pi 3.
Great Video as always Chris! Much admiration from across the pond in Canada :). I know that PIs are focused for lower cost and simple deployments with SD cards, but I kinda wish we'd move away from micro SD and go more towards USB3 boot either via thumb drives or SSDs. Not only from a life expectancy view, but performace boost too. Someone should design a cool case where a traditional 2.5 SSD can be incorporated into a nice little self contained package.
Thanks for more interesting content. I tried Manjaro for the pi4 about a month and a half ago, and found it to be unstable. It looks as though at least some of those issues have been addressed. I see now that Ubuntu has released a version for the Pi4. I hope to find the time to try that out. Am I reading correctly from your Pi screen that 64 bit Raspbian is arch based?
I guess the youtube playback in raspbian 64 bit is the same as in Manjaro. No hardware support yet. I agree that youtube is ok, watched several hours of youtube content and is ok enough but not good enough if for example you have a stockmarket ticket scrolling in the video. Then you will definitely see the effects of the dropped frames. Also tested libreelec. That all works fine except it support only up to the DTS sound format. I remember reading the specs at the launch of the pi4 that it could support the lossless formats TrueHD and DTS Master HD-MA. I am still hopeful that the hardware support will improve in time so above issues will no longer exist. Maybe i am wrong. If so, please let me know.
I found out that Parrot OS now has an experimental version for Raspberry Pi (so does Kali which I think Parrot is competing with). I haven't tired it and I'm not sure if you've tired it yet but I am interested. I'm not sure how well it runs at this time but Parrot is my favorite distro for my desktop and laptop (which I always duel boot with Peppermint OS since Peppermint doesn't require much system resources).
You are right Manjaro running the KDE Plasma desktop lags a little -- what you see in the video is accurate. If you run the Manjaro version with the XFCE desktop it is faster, but does not look as nice! :) As I understand it, the GPU is not being used to accelerate the graphics yet.
Nice, thanks for sharing. Nice gotcha with the 64bit rasbian and the older 32bit apps. Manjaro in KDE on an SBC is amazing. I thought it would run horribly. But it's not too bad at all.
I had it in my hand only yesterday (because it lives on top of so many other things!). I do still intend to do the speed control video before the end of 2019. Thanks for the prompt. :)
@@ExplainingComputersI bet there are a fair few regulars who cannot wait to see that. Hopefully that would be motivation enough to try teaming up an NRF24L01 radio with a Pi for remote control.
The Pi 4 now supports network booting so if you have a desire to learn about that it may save you some time imaging multiple SD cards. You can network boot from a PC or even another Pi.
Hi Chris, another nice video. Specifically, with Rasbian 64 bit, I assume that there is no barrier to compiling 64 bit versions of software yourself. Not on the Pi, of course, we want it done before we die, but I'm sure gcc on a powerful desktop system could handle the load, then convert to .deb and install via dpkg?
Absolutely, opportunities exist to compile 64 bit (test) software -- and I'm sure the community, as well as the Raspberry Pi Foundation, will rise to the challenge. :)
@@ExplainingComputers I have to revisit what my Pi4 specifically is doing. I'm pretty sure it's not much more than an NFS server and a Plex server, so maybe worth a test and see how far I get. The sdcard hands off to an SSD for boot, anyway, so easy to backup before I get going. Just need to revert the config.txt change to get back to where I was.
You can install it. It works better than with a 3b+. Overclock to 2ghz, 725 for gpu, over volt 6 use a high speed sd card and there is a way to overclock that too, dtoverlay 50=100, both ppsspp and n64 are very playable. I think the n64 likes slightly different configs, save games in retroarch often, it crashes with the settings I have, requires pulling the plug. Goldeneye plays just fine so far as speed, just need an n64 style controller ps3 type works just impossible to aim. Ppsspp, god of war is too slow, Tomb Raider very good, Ridge Racer perfect with overclock. Oh and gpu mem set to 512. Each one of those things helped on my pi 4 4gb
Could one just prepare a Debian image with the raspberry drivers and utilities and the boot that? I'd rather run something more vanilla than a spin-off distribution that may not be supported in 2 years.
It's like cutting edge tech explained like I was in the 80's. This channel is the most amazing thing in the cosmos.
When someone mentions the 80's and 'cosmos', I can't help thinking of the Carl Sagan series. "There are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on all the beaches on Earth", or something like that. Oh, and greets to Mr Scissors: 8X
If Tomorrows World made mad love to Bob Ross, this would be the resulting lovechild lol. It's a brilliant channel.
I remember that Sagan phase. Favourite series of childhood of mine
The 80s where from the future.
We're yet to fully realize the neon.
In a weird way this channel is comforting like Mr. Rodgers, Bob Ross and Sagan - but with scissors and dry humor
0:35 Manjaro
6:23 LibreELEC
9:40 OpenMediaVault
11:11 DietPi
14:45 64 Bit Raspbian
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18:18 Exciting Times
All of them except for Manjaro are Raspbian-based.
I use KDE Manjaro in my low spec (2GB RAM + Intel N3050 CPU + eMMC drive) and it has made my laptop really responsive, and uses
Amazing, I started googling this topic and checking out RPI distros just yesterday. I wake up this morning and find this. Thanks EC.
Another Sunday. Another Chris video. Another good day.
the perfect life
yes indeed
There are days I think you are reading my mind. I was thinking about different distros today, You've given me a few I didn't know about, but one of them sounds perfect for one of my projects.
Right? This channel has such timely information. And I just love his presentation format.
These OS's are a good example of how the RPi 4 is significantly more powerful than the previous RPi models. I appreciate how the Raspberry Pi foundation is taking its time to deliver hardware and software that's stable. They know their SBC's quite well, so they can watch the advancement of the tech, and take advantage of it at the right time/price point. Hope I can get my hands on a RPi 4 soon, it seems every time I go to order a 4GB, they're (still) out of stock. Thanks for another great video Chris.
I had to paint my work barn and office in it today. Sooo now I sit back after dinner and etruly enjoying yet another awesome video. Thank you immensely Sir Christopher of Nottingham!
It sounds like you have had a productive day! :)
I still have to run electricity and insulation. Then move equipment in. Then my project really takes off.
Great to see all this Linux goodness. The Pi 4 seems to be coming along very nicely indeed and you do a wonderful job showcasing all the hard work that many dedicated folks put in, often for free. Exciting times and look forward to more magic and wizardry from one of the best channels on TH-cam :) Thank you
How can people dislike video from ExplainingComputers ?
Thanks for this review !
I don’t even look at dislikes anymore. Trolls will be trolls.
Because g00gl likes to play with your emotions and give NAZIS ability to HATE CRIME DISLIKE what you like to watch.
#2 is used on replacement auto sheet metal repairs . it grooves two pieces of metal to overlap each other then you spot weld the two pieces. It attaches to a air impact hammer. Joel
A lot of of information! Thanks for opening up additional possibilities for using the Raspberry Pi! Manjaro and 64 bits... WOW!
Truly “exciting times”. Thanks for all the information! Looking forward to your next video.
I got my Pi 4 a couple of days ago and I'm completely new to all of this, but I'm glad you mentioned the video playback issue. I'm getting screen tearing in Raspbian with Chromium and VLC. LibreELEC hardware decoding works perfectly though.
Two additional notes:
1. Ubuntu for the Pi 4 is now available. Both 32 and 64 bit versions are available. Another TH-camr, ETA Prime, has recently released a video covering this.
2. The release of 64 bit Raspbian may seem unexciting but let me theorize why this could be a great thing going forward. Without getting super technical, it is worth mentioning that 32 bit operating systems can only work with about 3 gigabytes of RAM. But the Pi 4 has up to 4GB so to make all of the RAM accessible in 32 bit Raspbian Buster a workaround had to be implemented. That workaround only gets you a max of 4GB. The 64 bit operating system can address much, much more RAM than that so my theory is that with the 4GB memory barrier removed we may see future Pi 4 models (4B+ perhaps) with more than 4 GB of RAM. Much more. Raspberry Pi officials have stated affordable memory chips greater than 4GB could not be sourced and keep the Pi cost where it is currently so they stopped at 4GB. But, I would be happy to pay up to $100 for an 8GB Pi 4.
Useful notes. Thanks for sharing here.
Oh, one more note about RAM in the Pi 4, I think I read where the Broadcom Sytem on a Chip (SoC) which houses the processor cores, video core, GPIO, PCIe, and such can handle up to 16GB of RAM. The 64-bit operating system can address much more so this is a SoC limitation, but still, 16GB is jaw dropping in the Pi world. Maybe we’ll see it. Who knows.
@@markconger8049 nice but there is no 64 bit java for pi. I cannot find on the whole Internet anything about it. Do you know how to get it?
Error onetwofour - did you see this forum post on Raspberry Pi? www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=257832
Looks like I'll have to try out Manjaro on one of my Raspbery Pis. Thanks for another quality upload. This is how I start my Sunday mornings. :)
Manjaro is Pi 4 only, but does run -- and look -- great. :)
@@ExplainingComputers does Manjaro come with Firefox browser 32bit or 64?
Exciting times indeed!
Recently I was researching some distros for Rπ thinking to test & taste raspberry flavours with different distros on top.
Today I've got a gift!
Excellent video Chris! 😁👌🏻
Hi Elvira. :) I like how you included a proper pi symbol there! :) Cool.
Super. I'm glad I watched this as I discovered I was only running the 32bit Raspberry Pi OS. Thank you.
There are lots of 64 bit Pi OS now -- th-cam.com/video/80CU1j36Q6s/w-d-xo.html
Indeed. I should have tacked on that I followed this vid and now have the 64bit Raspberry Pi OS running.
Greetings! You introduced me with this video to the "DietPi" Distro. Since then, I've been adding installations on RPpi as well as on old PCs, for leisure as well as for work. Totally awesome. Many thanks!
Great to hear. :)
Very good . I find your videos very helpful, esp with picking out distros for my growing Pi collection.
Great Video Prof. Chris! And very timely as well! I have my first Rasp.Pi on the way here on order from Amazon even now as I write this, and it's good to see what options are available at this time. Fantastic!
I think I'll be sticking with the 64-Bit Raspbian for now...
Thanks again for the great video and all the effort and time you put into Explaining Computers videos!!
Enjoy your new Pi. :) Not that 64 bit Raspbian remains experimental this stage. :)
A good representative selection that you have provided us with ! Manjaro sounds to be a useful "all-round" distribution ! As regards 64-bit, PiLFS now have a 64-bit version for people who want to build their own operating system ! Anyone tempted note that there are quite a lot of steps - last one that I built took me a fortnight in-between other things... But yes, a great selection Chris, and Manjaro certainly sounds a safe bet until Raspbian 64-bit fully gets off the ground. Thanks for this useful primer into 64-bit on the Pi !
Thank you Christopher - a well done video as always. Many respects sir...
Hey thanks for this analysis. You always have something interesting, relevant, and informative.
In kodi just press "O" for codec info or "ctrl+shift+O" for extended codec info.
My Raspbian not showing 32 or 64 bit version? Linux raspberrypi 4.19.97-v7l+ #1294 SMP Thu Jan 30 13:21:14 GMT 2020 armv7l GNU/Linux I'm guessing it is 64bit but the command uname -a doesn't specify.
I've used both OMV and LibreELEC in the past. I should mention OctoPrint for those who have a 3D Printer. I bought a Monoprice Maker Select Plus back in April, which doesn't have Wi-Fi connectivity, and I keep it in my hobby room where I build plastic models as well as do other things. Hooking it up to a RPi and installing OctoPrint changes that. It allows you to manage and monitor prints over a network through a web UI, and also an app. Although I believe there is a plugin to print from anywhere (I've just not tried it). For those who use AstroPrint--there's a plugin for that, too.
OctoPrint is interesting, as it not only controls your printer, but you can't even turn the printer on and off using the switch, if you are running it. The slight downside is that it is written in Python 2.
Dr. Barnatt, you continue to impress and amaze with your consistently great videos providing always delicious, useful, clear, practical, and objective, information, recommendations and expert advise. That you do so with such regular good humor is even more remarkable. And all of it for free! As long as you are able to keep doing it, I will keep watching it. Thank you and best wishes.
So today thanks to you, I ordered the RPi 4B, Ice cooler, etc. to add to my collection of SBC's, and I look forward to trying these OS alternatives. But I DID NOT order the blue LED version of the cooler. There should be an international law against blue LED's, which are known to interfere with sleep, and probably tortures pets. Amber should be the gold standard.
So I ordered the multi-color RGB fan-version, complete with a colorful case option, but I would have ordered amber if I had found it. With any luck at all, there will be software control of the RGB color choices. In any case, there should always be a way to shut off the LEDs since they provide little if any value for their power consumption.
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Enjoy your new Pi. :)
Try force enabling hardware acceleration in firefox about:config. Firefox on Linux doesn't support hardware acceleration out of the box for some reason.
It is in version 70.
That doesn't do video acceleration sadly.
@@jmshrv Setting the 'media.hardware-video-decoding.force-enabled' to 'true' in about:config solved the issue for me. Was the first thing I did after noticing the issue on my Pi 4 running Manjaro.
The main problem with linux arm is hardware acceleration. The Rp 4 have the power but is missing this feature.
Great video Chris, thanks for putting Manjaro in the mix.
As soon as they implement hardware acceleration more the pi 4 will be great.
I have learned a lot in the last week about the inner workings of development in the Pi community and it has revealed a lot is was surprised about including how lazy broadcom had been like RockChip and AMLogic. They are all freeloaders of the community expecting it to do all the heavy lifting. Quit sad really.
They updated the hardware a lot, including the video output, but hamstrung it with software-only rendering in the majority of cases. Kinda surprised they did that instead of better hardware support.
AFAIK video acceleration is working on stuff like LibreELEC. Firefox doesn't support hardware acceleration on Linux so Chromium built with VA-API support will probably provide a better experience on the RPi4.
Greetings! After two "SBC" installations with/for enthusiastic neighbors (A small Pine64 and a Raspberry Pi 4 2Go - No fees, it's community fun) with DietPi for indoor file sharing (Tonido was finally chosen by these two families of saeveral teenagers, I do hope there is no security problem here), I'm getting ready to update my own tiny home server (a RPi 3B+), with an RPi 4 4Go and (of course!) DietPI. NextCloud will be available again at home, within the next few weeks; I am courious to see the results of this "hardware upgrade"... Thanks again for discovering this great distribution!
This all sounds cool! :)
Manjaro is severely underrated. It's by far the best distro for light devices. I flashed it on an ASUS Nexus from 2012 and worked wonders until last year when it bricked.
So Manjaro works on Intel systems too? I know very little about it. But I did recently buy a budget Lenovo IdeaPad to try and switch over to Linux. Might give Manjaro a run.
@@markconger8049 Yeah, you totally should. It's lighter than Ubuntu, and with pretty much the same functionality.
Thanks professor Christopher the pi4b is looking better than it did before on your first visit to it getting better support for the choices of OS you can use .
Yes, I agree. I have had to wait some time to make a video like this. :)
Nice to see that Manjaro is just as glorious on the Pi as it is on the Desktop.
How about installing all five of these operating systems using GRUB as the boot loader? The blue led tower cooler should help the Pi out with this.
Great stuff, Chris, excellent video!
Is it possible to review CPU load and temperature characteristics of the operating system distros reviewed in this video? I noticed a big difference between idle Raspbian (37 C cpu temp) and and idle Open Media Vault (57 C) on the same hardware with the same cooler.
When I tried running some docker stuff, including mysql (or mariadb) 32-bit raspbian created all kinds of problems for me. It was Manjaro to the rescue. Truely 64-bit, full aarch64 OS, everything installs & upgrades painlessly. It's soo good that i really don't feel the need to go back & see if raspbian64 is any good.
Thanks for the video Chris. Perfect with a cup of coffee, for this cold morning
Best way to start a Sunday morning... Good cup of Java, crispy English muffin and Competent useful information from
Explaining Computers..
Don't drink Java. Drink Rust.
I find it insulting to call Christopher Barnett a " crispy English muffin."
Drinking java??! It'd be a horrible experience to set up, so much boilerplate coffee brewing.
Woke up this morning and I got myself a beer.
What about a version of GhostBSD for the Raspberry Pi IV.
Manjaro KDE itself seems slow. Kodi is too specialized, OMV won't run for more than a day or so for me without requiring total re-install and wiping disks. Is dietpi 32 or 64?
Does Raspbian support NEON SIMD instructios ? Especially the 64 bit kernel version ? Is the Ubuntu Mate distro for the Raspberry Pi 2 compiled with NEON support ?
Y’ know what i love about youtube?
Getting notifications 5 minutes late.
Oh well, at least it arrived. The release of the video got confused today due to the clocks changing here in the UK last night
@ExplainingComputers Yes, i haven’t received notifications from some channels for almost 4 months.
There seem to be a lot of bugs with TH-cam right now. Like the comment editor in Studio Beta not showing more than 4 words! So here I am in Classic, which is due to disappear entirely this week!
It amazes me how many 32-bit applications still exist.
Thx man, merry xmas and a happy new one :)
Do you think 64 bit raspbian is the start for a powerful OS? I mean for now there are not 64 bit application developed for 64 bit raspbian.
At this stage I think you should put up a full length video on playing with and configuring the diet pi os just to show how far you can take it .thanks professor Chris
The 64bit version of Raspbian is actually 64bit kernel with 32bit userland, which is not fully leverage the advantages of 64bit architecture. There is unofficial ubuntu server 64bit image for Rpi4, can you try on that?
I run LibreELEC on my for playing 4k media, so damn flawless it isn't funny! The the fan shim, 4k made it run pretty hot but that thing keeps it extra cool. Zero issues.
DietPi seems to provide an ARMv6 image which is quite old/obsolete. I assume the reason is compatibility with older Raspberry Pi models. I wasn't aware of the aarch64 version for raspbian, thank you.
Well as for the ARM 64-Bit support for Raspbian I hope they will have Vulkan API support as well smoother performances for 4K, as well some fixes for Firefox ESR - that appears to crash quite often in Raspbian
A lovely video as usual. Very lucid. Thanks a lot.
Great to see updates like that to the RasPi 4. Now an important question is - what happened to the power port? Have they sent you an updated version with the proper two resistors yet? I am still waiting for them to fix this before I buy a RasPi 4..
I'm not aware of a power update yet.
Well, nice to see some options for our new raspberry pi, but would be nice if you could do a compilation of what options there is for those who want command line only for server usage and where you only connect power and network cable. I have been using the system from armbian and get very annoyed everytime I shall setup raspian where it sucks in many ways compared to armbian. Ubuntu server is one option but it is not so friendly compared to armbian.
Superior as always good sir. I have my 4 gig rpi4 in hand and will be trying the manjaro distro out.
The ice tower fits with the Pimoroni RPi 4 case
Im want to know what status of 5G in the UK, it's working on the real-time or beta version
Great intoduction to OS for the Raspberry PI4
DietPi looks like a good solution for classes/outreach labs that I don’t want to turn loose with a full edition of Kali Linux.
tl;dr; Manjaro XFCE edition on Rpi4 is amazing, way better than Raspian in terms of general daily computing. My laptop, xps 13, recently stopped working. Until it was fixed I was happily using RPi4 as my main computer. I wasn't aware that other distros were available for it, so I used Raspian for two weeks or so, and I was underwhelmed by this experience. After watching this video, I switched to Manjaro, which knocked my socks off!. I do most of my work on the command line and through web browser etc. So, after using Manjaro, I can say that Rpi4 can certainly be a desktop replacement for me! Thanks EC for this great review video!
This is great to hear. :)
Hi Chris, thanks for your excellent work.
I've played around DietPi for a few days now, It seems to be excellent for tinkering about, which is how a lot of us learn things - particularly as you get over 50 !
Also, it bridges very nicely between a desktop GUI and it's terminal based config applications - which is great for those of use still weary of using terminals.
Perhaps a video dedicated to DietPi would be well received ? I'm sure most Raspberry Pi's have been purchased as a learning tool/Linux play thing.
Thanks again
Which OS is more suitable for a server use? No UI is required, but Java.
Since you mentioned you were using the Ice Tower, a couple of questions if I may.
How noisy is it?
Did you ever find a case to fit it?
I ask because I originally bought a CanaKit case with fan and it's noisy. I am currently using a Flirc case and it works pretty well passively but I'm really jonesing for the ice tower with a case. :)
The ICE Tower is pretty quiet. I've not found a case to go with it. Sorting one out is on my list.
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks for the reply. It may be as you said a while back, you may have to print one.
Do any of these work with Redshift or f.lux? I'm a night person and the lack of blue light blocking is preventing me from switching to the Pi4 full time. If someone can help me I would really appreciate it!
Finally just got my Pi 4! Not real happy with the Raspbian version I tried in a VM on my PC (software I add with the provided add software utility usually never shows up in the launch menus at all, so I can never find it after installing it and the convoluted "apt-get" CLI program to get any updates is clunky compared to the nice utilities provided in most other Linux distributions), so want to install Manjaro instead... You skipped a few steps of how to actually install this on a Pi in your video, like what to do with the "img" file after extracting it from the "xz" archive from the web site? Do i just write it as is to the SD card (which I presume still needs to be in FAT32 format?) and then boot my Pi? Thanks!
Use Etcher to install image files to an SD card for a Pi. I did not cover it here as I've done so many times before -- eg see from about 6 minutes into this video: th-cam.com/video/bpvlEbdA6qI/w-d-xo.html If I've cover installing each OS in this video it would have done on forever. :) Good luck!
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks! I got it, actually installed Raspbian on a separate SD card so installed and tried both it and Manjaro. Like the PC version of Raspbian, I wasn't really happy with the fact that the ARM version only open up a few configuration settings - not nearly as many as Manjaro and most other Linux distributions provide. I wasn't even able to configure the mouse pointer to be easily seen on the small monitor I have the Pi plugged up to nor figure out how to add my wi-fi printer - both things I could do rather easily on Manjaro. Yeah, I understand that Raspbian and the Pi itself were designed for complete novices but as a power user the lack of exposure to configuration controls that I know have to exist drives me nuts! -:)
I was rather surprised to see my Pi and its cooling fan still lit up and spinning long after I'd unplugged the main power supply - I guess pulling some juice from the HDMI connection? I was also trying to figure out if there was any easy way to get the Pi to boot again after shutting it down, without unplugging and then reconnecting the power supply? Seems pretty clunky to have to do that, to get it to boot up again...
I have my new Pi 4 in an inexpensive Geekpi.com case, with heat sinks on all of the big chips and a very small fan. I can't find any utilities under Manjaro that I can add to actually measure the chip temperature like you did in your cooling videos. (The Ice Tower is still totally sold out on Amazon here, and they claim to have no idea when it might be available again). I'll go back and look at your cooling videos again, to see the details of the command you were using to get this - so maybe I can find it in the Manjaro "add/remove software" database. Just curious how may current configuration is keeping it cool.
Next month I'll try to get a camera module and begin prototyping the software end of the DIY security video camera that Linux Tech Tips showed how to make recently - in their case with a Pi-zero. I want to get the software all set up and tested on the Pi 4 before getting a zero to use in the real application. Most commercial home security camera systems these days only want to work with smart phone apps, not traditional surveillance software systems like iSpy and many others provide. I want a camera that can upload still images via FTP or live streams with RTSP - which few of the modern camera systems for home use can actually do. Embarrassing that my one 15 year old IP wi-fi camera can do this way better and more reliably than my modern WYZE cameras can (only using some of their "unsupported" and pretty unreliable beta firmware).
Keep up the good work Christopher, and thanks again!
I'm pretty impressed with the performance of my (4GB) Pi 4 with Manjaro, which does things like video playback a lot better than the (I think 1.9GHZ) Atom processor in my Minix micro, fan-less Windows 10 PC does. Just about anything I do on the Pi 4 responds more consistently and crisply than anything on the Minix Windows PC does - probably because Linux isn't hauling as much baggage around as Windows does. I did run into one weird thing though where attempting to play a TH-cam video in Firefox (just inside the browser window, not full screen) completely blanked the whole display until I powered the system off and rebooted it. Thankfully Chromium didn't have the same problem and plays TH-cam videos (on a small 1600x900 display) very nicely.
Still haven't found anything that can measure the Pi's CPU temperature under Manjaro since I could not successfully recompile the "userland" utilities that contain the "vcgencmd" command (due to build script errors under Manjaro) and discovered that other utilities such as "psensor" that are supposed to show CPU and motherboard temperatures obviously have no clue how to get that information on a Pi 4. Oh well...
Would be possible to install Manjaro XFCE?
Yes, indeed. There is an XFCE Pi version available.
@@ExplainingComputers
Seems like this could run smoothly and it is 64bit
manjaro.org/download/arm/raspebery-pi-4/arm8-raspberry-pi-4-xfce/
Would be nice to test and see if the video sample will reproduce better. ;-)
How does Windows 10 run on pi 4? Can we access all its applications?
A Pi 4 could only run ARM Windows 10. I've not tired it, but would not expect it to work well.
I will be glad if you can try it.
How about Windows 8 or window 8.1?
i'm having the same issue with my HDMI display on the 64-bit, can you perhaps tell me how you managed to get in sorted? thanks
I edited the config.txt file on another machine to force a set resolution.
Another great video Christopher. I again learned a lot. I never tried DietPi. And I didn't know it was possible to run Raspbian in arm64. I'll have to try that. Great info.
I made a video about installing Mate on Ubuntu 19.10 server on the Raspberry Pi 4. There are some issues, but it does run well. HDMI sound doesn't work right yet, and for me 4GB disables USB. So I've got to limit to 3074MB. Still ok for a Raspberry Pi. The biggest advantage of Ubuntu 19.10 is that it uses mainline kernel 5.3 instead of the Raspberry kernel, and it has the latest software versions. And it's faster for my tasks than Debian Buster.
Because of its limitations it doesn't yet fit in this list. But it is great to see this happening for the Raspberry. I hope they'll fix the issues soon.
I must say I like the RK3399's so much more than the RPi4 for so many reasons. I also had a lot of problems with my capture device. For terminal I had to use my hdmi splitter. But for desktop use that gave an empty black display. So then I had to run it thru the capture device, but it only worked with 4k resolution. So I had to enlarge everything. So I know what you menth with having to reboot a lot for your capture device :)
Have a great evening, greetings.
Hi Nico. It sounds like we share in the joys of recording from SBCs. :) I will checkout your Ubuntu video. Like you, I am increasingly impressed by some of the RK3399 boards.
I would like to build a SBC Raspberry Pi to use exclusively with my Arduino IDE. This video helps me decide which OS I should use. Is this possible?
What capacity memory card is to be bought for these operating systems? Manjaro 64-bit for example? Does Zorin OS ultimate/ultimate lite have an Arm image?
An 8GB card will be fine, but I normally install on a 16GB these days. Zorin is x86 only, so there is no ARM (Pi) version.
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks for Replying Brother.👍🏼🙏🏼
There's no option to add an external HDD to multiboot different OSs? Still no Option for multiple ARM OSs be Installed in different Partitions on Maybe a higher Capacity SD card?
Err... Zorin OS 15.1 Ultimate launched only with 64-bit. 32-bit launched only recently. Core and Education and now Including the Lite Version of Ultimate 64-bit no 32-bit. Maybe ARM version not ready/out yet?😕
Manjaro XFCE flavor have you tried it on the Pi4 4GB? Any difference in the performance KDE Plasma vs XFCE? Also kind of a Noob Question Does it Have Capacity to use a Part of the SD card as swap space?
Sorry for the 101 questions, but would be good to know so I can plan accordingly what to purchase in the near future.
@@MICKYLEAKSMGR-PRESIDENTCJWORLD A Pi 3B+ can boot from USB. A Pi 4 currently cannot, but the option is promised for the future . . . XFCE Manjaro does run better on a Pi than Plasma. :)
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks once again for the info! Oh No wonder 3B is still going for sale online.
I just went through download of Zorin OS 15.1 there's no 32-bit like I said in some editions! See they've launched something called Zorin Grid! No ARM version link I can find on the official page, but I confirm again there's 64-bit of the OS editions like I said including the ultimate guess some developers haven't got down to porting to ARM. Enjoying Your Videos as always! VPN and Secure NAS options need to be hardened for people especially NOW!
I follow your instructions on raspian64 in a RPI3+ but uname -a says 4.19.80-v7+ Any help?
The Pi 3B+ has a different processor, which may account for this.
@@ExplainingComputers Ah! OK, thanks.
I would be curious how well the Pi4 runs a Minecraft Server, esp. if the 64 bit version is faster even with only 4GB Ram. Minecraft runs on Java 32 or 64 bit. I like to run Minecraft with the Lotr-mod (Lord of the Rings). It's super awesome.
The Raspbian 64-bit version would be handy for those of us that use files that are exceeding 4GB in size. I've never tested 32-bit Linux with that constraint, but I know Windows was never happy with huge files in 32-bit.
Manjaro menu responsiveness seems quite poor though, I honestly hate lagging interface ...
Thanks for this nice video Christopher. I'm new in the world off Single Board Computer. I have some experiences with Arduino. So I have some questions.
Do you have experiences with OktoPi, a distribution with OktoPrint included.
And then a stupid question, for the GPIOs on the RPI and other SBC is there a Microprocessor like an Arduino behind and are there 8, 16 or 32 bit like SM32 or ESP32. Thanks if anybody answer the question.
I've not used OctoPi. There is no processor "behind" the GPIO -- just the SBC's main SoC.
@@ExplainingComputers thanks a lot 👍
Great information! Thank you very much. I've been saving up and I'm looking forward to getting a raspberry pi 4 this weekend!
Enjoy your new Pi. :)
Great video, nice operating systems, interesting improvements ahead, I like to use berryboot, so I can run multiple os on an SSD, the current pi 4 version is a bit touch and go, but when it's sorted it will finally replace my pi 3.
Great Video as always Chris! Much admiration from across the pond in Canada :). I know that PIs are focused for lower cost and simple deployments with SD cards, but I kinda wish we'd move away from micro SD and go more towards USB3 boot either via thumb drives or SSDs. Not only from a life expectancy view, but performace boost too. Someone should design a cool case where a traditional 2.5 SSD can be incorporated into a nice little self contained package.
It is strange that the Pi 3 can boot from USB, yet the Pi 4 currently cannot . . .
A 64-bit version of Mathematica 12.0 on RaspberryPi4 would be amazing.
Thanks for more interesting content. I tried Manjaro for the pi4 about a month and a half ago, and found it to be unstable. It looks as though at least some of those issues have been addressed. I see now that Ubuntu has released a version for the Pi4. I hope to find the time to try that out. Am I reading correctly from your Pi screen that 64 bit Raspbian is arch based?
Thanks for this. I'm not sure on the arch based. The forum posts for 64 bit Raspbian are here: www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=250730
How did you adjust your settings for display for rasbian?
Let me clarify when you run berry boot the normal way dosent work is there a way to change it In the berry boot folders
I guess the youtube playback in raspbian 64 bit is the same as in Manjaro. No hardware support yet. I agree that youtube is ok, watched several hours of youtube content and is ok enough but not good enough if for example you have a stockmarket ticket scrolling in the video. Then you will definitely see the effects of the dropped frames.
Also tested libreelec. That all works fine except it support only up to the DTS sound format. I remember reading the specs at the launch of the pi4 that it could support the lossless formats TrueHD and DTS Master HD-MA.
I am still hopeful that the hardware support will improve in time so above issues will no longer exist. Maybe i am wrong. If so, please let me know.
You are right -- hardware support should improve in time.
Awesome. I always enjoy your videos
I found out that Parrot OS now has an experimental version for Raspberry Pi (so does Kali which I think Parrot is competing with). I haven't tired it and I'm not sure if you've tired it yet but I am interested. I'm not sure how well it runs at this time but Parrot is my favorite distro for my desktop and laptop (which I always duel boot with Peppermint OS since Peppermint doesn't require much system resources).
Kali certainly works. I shot a Kali Linux segment for the video, but decided against including it.
Wow... just last week, i bought a Pi4 to add to the collection... were you watching my purchases again, or am i developing ESP?
Must be ESP!
@@ExplainingComputers ESP = Explainingcomputers Sees Purchases.
Mankato seems to look a bit slow with its 'start' menu. Is this the case or just the way it appears in the video.
You are right Manjaro running the KDE Plasma desktop lags a little -- what you see in the video is accurate. If you run the Manjaro version with the XFCE desktop it is faster, but does not look as nice! :) As I understand it, the GPU is not being used to accelerate the graphics yet.
Nice, thanks for sharing. Nice gotcha with the 64bit rasbian and the older 32bit apps.
Manjaro in KDE on an SBC is amazing. I thought it would run horribly. But it's not too bad at all.
Think im going to need several SD cards to try these OS' out when I get a Pi 4
Yes, lot of things to try here!
@@ExplainingComputers how are you getting on with your Raspberry Pi / Devastator project?
I had it in my hand only yesterday (because it lives on top of so many other things!). I do still intend to do the speed control video before the end of 2019. Thanks for the prompt. :)
@@ExplainingComputersI bet there are a fair few regulars who cannot wait to see that. Hopefully that would be motivation enough to try teaming up an NRF24L01 radio with a Pi for remote control.
The Pi 4 now supports network booting so if you have a desire to learn about that it may save you some time imaging multiple SD cards. You can network boot from a PC or even another Pi.
Hi Chris, another nice video. Specifically, with Rasbian 64 bit, I assume that there is no barrier to compiling 64 bit versions of software yourself. Not on the Pi, of course, we want it done before we die, but I'm sure gcc on a powerful desktop system could handle the load, then convert to .deb and install via dpkg?
Absolutely, opportunities exist to compile 64 bit (test) software -- and I'm sure the community, as well as the Raspberry Pi Foundation, will rise to the challenge. :)
@@ExplainingComputers I have to revisit what my Pi4 specifically is doing. I'm pretty sure it's not much more than an NFS server and a Plex server, so maybe worth a test and see how far I get. The sdcard hands off to an SSD for boot, anyway, so easy to backup before I get going. Just need to revert the config.txt change to get back to where I was.
Have you demonstrated a PVR yet?
Not yet. :)
Did you happen to record the video sorting out issue? I would love to see the problem and how you fixed it. Thanks for all your hard work.
I didn't record it -- I could not! It involved overscan settings, and I fixed it by manually editing the config.txt files on another Linux machine.
@@ExplainingComputers The file you showed? Was it the 4k=1 setting? For some reason that stood out for me.
sir can you make a video on servo motor and their driver
A Pi video on servo motor control is on my list!
Always interesting.Cheers man.
Can't wait for Retropie for Pi 4.
You can install it. It works better than with a 3b+. Overclock to 2ghz, 725 for gpu, over volt 6 use a high speed sd card and there is a way to overclock that too, dtoverlay 50=100, both ppsspp and n64 are very playable. I think the n64 likes slightly different configs, save games in retroarch often, it crashes with the settings I have, requires pulling the plug. Goldeneye plays just fine so far as speed, just need an n64 style controller ps3 type works just impossible to aim. Ppsspp, god of war is too slow, Tomb Raider very good, Ridge Racer perfect with overclock. Oh and gpu mem set to 512. Each one of those things helped on my pi 4 4gb
Loved the video. You clued me into the release of the 64 bit raspian. What does the Viewport reading in stats for nerds indicate?
We don't get any improvement, as the browser is still 32 bit and not GPU accelerated for video playback. :(
Could one just prepare a Debian image with the raspberry drivers and utilities and the boot that? I'd rather run something more vanilla than a spin-off distribution that may not be supported in 2 years.
I was set on running Raspian until Ubuntu Mate comes out, but I might give Manjaro a try.