Another tip is compose a team with a specific lair boss and the confession boss in mind. In DD2, counterplay is heavily rewarded, so make the most of it.
Another mistake that I made that I hoarded gold and relics like crazy, waiting for an opportunity to use them later for a better items in shop. The result was I was over-encumbered an entire region and didn't found the things I need, and resources just piled up, when I could've used them before to buy at least something of use. So if you're reading this new players - dont' be greedy. Riches won't help you in a grave.
I often spend my currencies on filling combat item slots, then using inn items to build relationships. Especially Whiskey, a very nice item to build relationships, and even a deck of cards. As I feel the potency of positive relationships outweigh nearly any resistance bonus that an inn item can give
One of my most common mistakes: before going to lair or other serious fight you want to switch your build (skills, trinkets, combat items) to be more effective. For example, I went to sluice with Dismas with rat skull equipped. I was like: "Why can't I heal him? Oh, the rat skull. Well, too bad." And then, when he died I was like "Wait. All this time I could unequip it. I'm an idiot."
my humble tips: - Don't avoid going to the Sluice, you can get nice extra loot and extra mastery points - Save your combat items and inn items for later in the run as the game become more difficult - Don't heal your heroes unless absolutely necessary, they will heal on the way between battles in the coach - Look carefully at the quirks when selecting a hero at the beginning, they will make or break your run (some quirks are insanely powerful (like breacher), some doom you to an early end) - Unlock new trinkets as early as possible at the altar of hope as they are deciding factors in a run
About the quirks: *laughs in breacher grave robber*, but yeah the quirks make a big diffrence, the best bad ones either do almost nothing (occultomania, tune hummer, etc.) And there's also vicious which despite being a negative quirk gives great value (+10% dmg but 15% chance for vulnerable after every attack) And avoid ascetic, they call it positive but it hinders you a lot (bans some inn items and -10% positive relationship chance)
Ohhhh so spending the candles on the items at the altar are actually being unlocked.... and I tought it just gives me a few extra stuff to make the next run easier, but then again I wondered why do I alway see new items when spending the candles. The ultimate facepalm....😂
Not so certain about the no heal advice, they dont recover that quickly if its just a single nod to nod trip. Id say 60%+ health at last stages of battle dont heal, but below 60% Id keep in mind WHEN are your next fights.
@@RobaczeYoYo Related to that, if your final enemy is already going to die from a DoT on them or you have multiple characters before the enemy, if one of your characters *can* use a healing skill there's often no reason not to do so; the fight should end before anything bad happens either way, so you may as well squeeze a little more good stuff out of it. (The exact circumstances matter, of course; if that last enemy has good DBR, for example, you might want to just keep attacking it anyway to make sure that it *does* actually die, and sometimes you may want to end the fight before a particular hero's turn comes up even though they act before the enemy does, etc.)
I would disagree on #3 here, heal as much as possible, so your hero won't get bombrush out of nowhere with crit after crit, then died on the first dot tick. shit will always happen in this game, carefulness is king.
Biggest mistake: carrying humanity's last hope like a rational adult would. Group will tear each other apart by region 2, while the laughter of the guys who installed a pot and still and vowed to drink every drop of whiskey in all the lands will be heard as they victoriously stagger down that mountain 😂
One thing I'll add here is those academic caches are huge dont sleep on them, they can give the best in slot legendary trinkets for your party and lots of combat and inn items. Legendary trinkets can get you back in a lost run or make your run smooth af
One thing I'd add about combat items, is I've found being a bit more liberal in my use with them has proven quite effective. Rather than trying to have this horde-up mentality by-in-large. While you should use them effectively and correctly, they also do nothing if you just keep them as well, hoping for some big payoff or situation that may never come. It makes more sense to use them, and save some for harder fights you know might be coming, or the boss at the end. But otherwise, it doesn't serve anybody to have 12 combat items at the end of a run sitting in your inventory you never used.
Good video, though I would like to hear more sometime about picking the right route, I feel like it's a much more complex subject after the Redemption Road update.
Oh yes I agree. The extra flame drain at high loathing is so dangerous. Even if you avoid maxing out the loathing being stuck at 2 or 3 will devastate your light, increase the chance for bad relationship procs while driving or at fights and etc. and might even cause your light to reach zero.
Take Sluice every chance. Now that 5 Loathing doesn't make it Exemplarin' Time! there's little to no downside. Region 1 Leviathan is a trap. Unless you have a Sergeant and at least one Drum from Valley, it's not gonna happen in the overwhelming majority of the time.
I very many times I forgot about combat items. Also little info. I discovered when your heroes kill boss and you dont give them some kind of memory in altar... you LOSE that hero. This is only for those that dont have memory yet but If somehow you made hero with nice stats its pain to losing the for literaly nothing. So if you made the first expedicion with new hero make sure he got memory.
I just started Darkest Dungeon 2 after finally getting over 200 weeks in a playthrough on Darkest Dungeon which I felt was a thorough enough attempt at seeing the majority of the games content to finally justify buying Darkest Dungeon 2. Turns out this was a mistake because now I find myself being very irritated that the second one is at least 95% different than the first one, the similarities basically end at having a team of four and a couple of those people on the team are similar in appearance to their originals. So all that time spent and knowledge gained got thrown right out the window with DD2 because there is nothing other than choosing if someone should be front line or backline that is the same, and I'm still not even sure if that will hold true.
I don't think that much is lost between the 2 games personally. The fundamentals of dd1 still apply, like stress bad, backline should die first, death door always fails regardless of % etc.
@@ShuffleFM Ok when you put it that way I agree but it's certainly more rogue like than the first which felt more like a campaign with perma death for heroes, and the almost complete removal of RNG from combat is certainly different but the jury is out on if it's a good or a bad different. Also in all honesty I was only about 30 minutes in after my purchase and having done about 7 runs with a whole 1 completion it's starting to grow on me (so long as it doesn't randomly forget 2 whole runs and candle upgrades like it did yesterday).
@@ShuffleFM I'm probably just bitching because I got the rug pulled out from under me because I did almost zero research before deciding to buy it so I basically jumped into cold water while assuming it was warm so it was a bit shocking 😅
A mistake i learned is to not have all moves tied to a certain spot since enemies could move your people around there might be a time where someone is out of place and cannot use any moves and you might have to move back to fix your placements maybe some moves to help fix that or moves to use if the person is ever moved out of their position you can just waste a turn moving them but sometimes you will need to do damage or maybe even someone dies and you will just end up passing your turn
I spent my candles on trinkets and a few other things, then when I went to equip them a few moments later my inventory was totally empty. Where did my stuff go? Thanks anyone who can answer.
Here's my #1 beginner mistake: Picking up Orphan Runaway and have her either stay in Rank 4 throwing fireflies or fixing in rank 1 whacking with +dmg ransack, where shes vulneravle with her -hp. WRONG (or at least not optimal or dopamine inducing)! The path is meant to be a dance path. Back rank for building up burns, move forward (perferably with other heros), into a beefy backdraft. Firestarter in between, either for longer burns or critical backdraft nukes. How else can you achieve those 100+ dmg?
Indeed, but in general i can't say i prefer it over the more simplistic and charming 2d hud from the original game, but i guess it's just a matter of preference and i being more used to it.
@@HavikXIII you didn't get the full experience from the video, the sound design to go with those animations is literally peak prepare an extra pair of shorts when you finally get the chance to play
Here are a few tips as well 1) TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR HEROES' GOALS! Sometimes, you would need to do them to get more candles in order to unlock better stuff faster than normal 2) ALWAYS MAKE SURE YOU CAN DO THE SECONDARY OBJECTIVE! They can give out great rewards in most cases
I'd say there are few more important strategic issues, which are counterintuitive and difficult to grasp: 1. You need to clear lairs and dens. Otherwise you won't have enough money to buy stuff and your party will be much weaker. Dens give you very good discounts, which helps a lot with good gear 2. Super important to build relationships in the team. Otherwise everything will go down the hill. Stress will build up and you'll be loosing control 3. Super important to keep negative quirks under control. Invest lots of hope into inn items early - this will give items necessary to remove quirks 4. Pile some baubles and visit hoarders closer to the end of the run. This will give you more chances to properly equip your party In other words, you need to invest a lot of effort into properly building and equipping your party. If you do this your party will easily dismantle enemies and bosses. Otherwise, every ordinary fight will be a major challenge.
For me it was understanding that there isn't a hidden hit% chance like there is in most other turn based RPG's. Pokemon, Final Fantasy, etc. Everyone hits 100% of the time unless there are tokens in play that dictate otherwise, and the effects of these tokens are transparently communicated to the player. Even knowing that I still sometimes find myself planning for a lucky enemy miss when I am in a dire circumstance.
Eh runaway is decent unless you go to the sprawl. Yeah grave robber is trash, not going to sugarcoat it. Same with occultist unless you completed his 4th hero shrine where you get a decent use for unchecked power tokens: the burning stars (it needs those tokens to work) which is 100x better than guaranteed crits on wyrd reconstruction cuz it might as well be a crit 0 bleed
Beginner mistake is spending candles on the swag and drip reskins instead of putting them all to Highwayman or MaA for Ez game. But seriously, survival first, then swag guys.
About combat items: what if i get a hero goal which makes me use an item that i don't want on that character (like bandages for plague doctor or runaway)?
4 turns to be proactive? Hahah just finished act 3 with shuffle party. Needed like 10-15 turns for the non-simple zombie fights 😅.. with fully upgraded heroes
4:20 A little thing TTRPG players call the 'Action Economy' , the more turns you have than the enemy, the higher chance you win, and focus firing allows you to get rid of an enemy turn permanently.
Learned something new today: you can stop the wagon by opening the wagon screen (press Z). This can help you if you need to change your setup at the last minute.
Another tip is compose a team with a specific lair boss and the confession boss in mind. In DD2, counterplay is heavily rewarded, so make the most of it.
Another mistake that I made that I hoarded gold and relics like crazy, waiting for an opportunity to use them later for a better items in shop. The result was I was over-encumbered an entire region and didn't found the things I need, and resources just piled up, when I could've used them before to buy at least something of use. So if you're reading this new players - dont' be greedy. Riches won't help you in a grave.
The narrator literally says it: "Spend what you can, or wealth no longer has meaning. If indeed it ever did."
"Wealth is worthless without purpose"
@@kamilslup7743 Yes.
“Packs laden with loot, are often low on supplies”
I often spend my currencies on filling combat item slots, then using inn items to build relationships. Especially Whiskey, a very nice item to build relationships, and even a deck of cards. As I feel the potency of positive relationships outweigh nearly any resistance bonus that an inn item can give
One of my most common mistakes: before going to lair or other serious fight you want to switch your build (skills, trinkets, combat items) to be more effective. For example, I went to sluice with Dismas with rat skull equipped. I was like: "Why can't I heal him? Oh, the rat skull. Well, too bad." And then, when he died I was like "Wait. All this time I could unequip it. I'm an idiot."
my humble tips:
- Don't avoid going to the Sluice, you can get nice extra loot and extra mastery points
- Save your combat items and inn items for later in the run as the game become more difficult
- Don't heal your heroes unless absolutely necessary, they will heal on the way between battles in the coach
- Look carefully at the quirks when selecting a hero at the beginning, they will make or break your run (some quirks are insanely powerful (like breacher), some doom you to an early end)
- Unlock new trinkets as early as possible at the altar of hope as they are deciding factors in a run
About the quirks: *laughs in breacher grave robber*, but yeah the quirks make a big diffrence, the best bad ones either do almost nothing (occultomania, tune hummer, etc.) And there's also vicious which despite being a negative quirk gives great value (+10% dmg but 15% chance for vulnerable after every attack)
And avoid ascetic, they call it positive but it hinders you a lot (bans some inn items and -10% positive relationship chance)
Ohhhh so spending the candles on the items at the altar are actually being unlocked.... and I tought it just gives me a few extra stuff to make the next run easier, but then again I wondered why do I alway see new items when spending the candles. The ultimate facepalm....😂
Not so certain about the no heal advice, they dont recover that quickly if its just a single nod to nod trip. Id say 60%+ health at last stages of battle dont heal, but below 60% Id keep in mind WHEN are your next fights.
@@RobaczeYoYo Related to that, if your final enemy is already going to die from a DoT on them or you have multiple characters before the enemy, if one of your characters *can* use a healing skill there's often no reason not to do so; the fight should end before anything bad happens either way, so you may as well squeeze a little more good stuff out of it. (The exact circumstances matter, of course; if that last enemy has good DBR, for example, you might want to just keep attacking it anyway to make sure that it *does* actually die, and sometimes you may want to end the fight before a particular hero's turn comes up even though they act before the enemy does, etc.)
I would disagree on #3 here, heal as much as possible, so your hero won't get bombrush out of nowhere with crit after crit, then died on the first dot tick. shit will always happen in this game, carefulness is king.
another mistake is returning from the journey earlier
that doesn't reward you hope, which is needed to unlock stuffs
Biggest mistake: carrying humanity's last hope like a rational adult would. Group will tear each other apart by region 2, while the laughter of the guys who installed a pot and still and vowed to drink every drop of whiskey in all the lands will be heard as they victoriously stagger down that mountain 😂
One thing I'll add here is those academic caches are huge dont sleep on them, they can give the best in slot legendary trinkets for your party and lots of combat and inn items. Legendary trinkets can get you back in a lost run or make your run smooth af
Another big mistake is not subbing to ShuffleFM for weekly guides and tutorials on Darkest Dungeon
One thing I'd add about combat items, is I've found being a bit more liberal in my use with them has proven quite effective. Rather than trying to have this horde-up mentality by-in-large. While you should use them effectively and correctly, they also do nothing if you just keep them as well, hoping for some big payoff or situation that may never come. It makes more sense to use them, and save some for harder fights you know might be coming, or the boss at the end. But otherwise, it doesn't serve anybody to have 12 combat items at the end of a run sitting in your inventory you never used.
Good video, though I would like to hear more sometime about picking the right route, I feel like it's a much more complex subject after the Redemption Road update.
No worries, I'll have a dedicated driving video at some point. I'm making a new player guide where I talk about it as well.
Oh yes I agree. The extra flame drain at high loathing is so dangerous. Even if you avoid maxing out the loathing being stuck at 2 or 3 will devastate your light, increase the chance for bad relationship procs while driving or at fights and etc. and might even cause your light to reach zero.
@@ShuffleFM Nice 🎙️
Loathing is INSANE, dont let that max out, im having huge issues to learn how to jugle my loathing
Thanks for this Shuff. Look forward to you expanding on any of these topics if you see the need.
#1 Not watching ShuffleFM
Take Sluice every chance. Now that 5 Loathing doesn't make it Exemplarin' Time! there's little to no downside.
Region 1 Leviathan is a trap. Unless you have a Sergeant and at least one Drum from Valley, it's not gonna happen in the overwhelming majority of the time.
Maxing out loathing has different penalties, I'd recommend avoiding it lol. Sluice is always good though.
I very many times I forgot about combat items.
Also little info. I discovered when your heroes kill boss and you dont give them some kind of memory in altar... you LOSE that hero. This is only for those that dont have memory yet but If somehow you made hero with nice stats its pain to losing the for literaly nothing. So if you made the first expedicion with new hero make sure he got memory.
what? you don't give memory and they disappear, that's stupid
damn i cant decide which thumbnail i like better, i wish you could use both at the same time
dont ask me how that would work ok i cant make the things i want logical all the time
This is what I needed
Also turn order, turn order is EXTREMELY important :D
What’s up shuffle, y’all here
Is there a video that explains the new mechanics/systems in this game compared to the first one?
Soon :)
@@ShuffleFM Sick. Looking forward to the vid and finally trying DD2 out.
I just started Darkest Dungeon 2 after finally getting over 200 weeks in a playthrough on Darkest Dungeon which I felt was a thorough enough attempt at seeing the majority of the games content to finally justify buying Darkest Dungeon 2. Turns out this was a mistake because now I find myself being very irritated that the second one is at least 95% different than the first one, the similarities basically end at having a team of four and a couple of those people on the team are similar in appearance to their originals. So all that time spent and knowledge gained got thrown right out the window with DD2 because there is nothing other than choosing if someone should be front line or backline that is the same, and I'm still not even sure if that will hold true.
I don't think that much is lost between the 2 games personally. The fundamentals of dd1 still apply, like stress bad, backline should die first, death door always fails regardless of % etc.
@@ShuffleFM Ok when you put it that way I agree but it's certainly more rogue like than the first which felt more like a campaign with perma death for heroes, and the almost complete removal of RNG from combat is certainly different but the jury is out on if it's a good or a bad different. Also in all honesty I was only about 30 minutes in after my purchase and having done about 7 runs with a whole 1 completion it's starting to grow on me (so long as it doesn't randomly forget 2 whole runs and candle upgrades like it did yesterday).
@@ShuffleFM I'm probably just bitching because I got the rug pulled out from under me because I did almost zero research before deciding to buy it so I basically jumped into cold water while assuming it was warm so it was a bit shocking 😅
@@tylerwarwick7975 Understandable!
A mistake i learned is to not have all moves tied to a certain spot since enemies could move your people around there might be a time where someone is out of place and cannot use any moves and you might have to move back to fix your placements maybe some moves to help fix that or moves to use if the person is ever moved out of their position you can just waste a turn moving them but sometimes you will need to do damage or maybe even someone dies and you will just end up passing your turn
use punctuation, jesus
@@madthundercat Please capitalize your words if you're going to complain about grammar, idiot :)
@@madthundercat🤣
Number 1 mistake is not subbing to Shuff
Man, DD2 is coming!
I spent my candles on trinkets and a few other things, then when I went to equip them a few moments later my inventory was totally empty. Where did my stuff go? Thanks anyone who can answer.
You are not buying them in the altar of hope. You just unlock them to later find them or buy them durig Journey.
@@maiejbuchelt8201 Ohhh okay. Maybe I missed reading that detail somewhere then. Thank you.
Is it possible to sell stuff or can you Just throw it away?
Can't sell but you can toss it. Shift click or drag it out of the inventory.
Do meltdown/resolve trinkets do anything on flagellant?
Nope :(
Thank you Man
So what happens at full loathing?
Mountain boss gets a 10% hp buff and you get punished depending on the confession you're doing
the 6th mistake is playing Occultist
The burning stars + warlock path?
The worst mistake by far you can ever make in DD2 is having the occultist on your team. I'd literally rather go with 4 piles of burning garbage
Biggest mistake: using the Fugitive....
#1 mistake is buying the game in the first place. Save your money and play modded DD 1.
It takes a deep rooted hatred to come complain about a game 2.5 years after its initial release.
#1 beginner mistake is not maxing out stagecoach renown
Last skin makes it so every hit lands no matter the blinds and things
@@arnoldgila9212 wait, the skins give effects?
@@kamilslup7743 Only the last one you unlock, so you should spend all your candles on it instead of other things :)
@@uwufemboy5683 ohh what have i done...
no way bruv
Here's my #1 beginner mistake:
Picking up Orphan Runaway and have her either stay in Rank 4 throwing fireflies or fixing in rank 1 whacking with +dmg ransack, where shes vulneravle with her -hp. WRONG (or at least not optimal or dopamine inducing)!
The path is meant to be a dance path. Back rank for building up burns, move forward (perferably with other heros), into a beefy backdraft. Firestarter in between, either for longer burns or critical backdraft nukes. How else can you achieve those 100+ dmg?
God this game looks so good. The new models and animations are so *_CRISP_*
where have you been last 1.5 years?
@@kvazarklymenko4536 didn't realize there was a time frame where I was allowed to appreciate things 🙄
Indeed, but in general i can't say i prefer it over the more simplistic and charming 2d hud from the original game, but i guess it's just a matter of preference and i being more used to it.
@@HavikXIII you didn't get the full experience from the video, the sound design to go with those animations is literally peak
prepare an extra pair of shorts when you finally get the chance to play
@@HavikXIII I was just joking around don`t worry
Grave robber bias even on the thumbnail I see
king
Here are a few tips as well
1) TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR HEROES' GOALS! Sometimes, you would need to do them to get more candles in order to unlock better stuff faster than normal
2) ALWAYS MAKE SURE YOU CAN DO THE SECONDARY OBJECTIVE! They can give out great rewards in most cases
I'd say there are few more important strategic issues, which are counterintuitive and difficult to grasp:
1. You need to clear lairs and dens. Otherwise you won't have enough money to buy stuff and your party will be much weaker. Dens give you very good discounts, which helps a lot with good gear
2. Super important to build relationships in the team. Otherwise everything will go down the hill. Stress will build up and you'll be loosing control
3. Super important to keep negative quirks under control. Invest lots of hope into inn items early - this will give items necessary to remove quirks
4. Pile some baubles and visit hoarders closer to the end of the run. This will give you more chances to properly equip your party
In other words, you need to invest a lot of effort into properly building and equipping your party. If you do this your party will easily dismantle enemies and bosses. Otherwise, every ordinary fight will be a major challenge.
For me it was understanding that there isn't a hidden hit% chance like there is in most other turn based RPG's. Pokemon, Final Fantasy, etc. Everyone hits 100% of the time unless there are tokens in play that dictate otherwise, and the effects of these tokens are transparently communicated to the player. Even knowing that I still sometimes find myself planning for a lucky enemy miss when I am in a dire circumstance.
Biggest mistake is using grave robber or runaway
Eh runaway is decent unless you go to the sprawl. Yeah grave robber is trash, not going to sugarcoat it. Same with occultist unless you completed his 4th hero shrine where you get a decent use for unchecked power tokens: the burning stars (it needs those tokens to work) which is 100x better than guaranteed crits on wyrd reconstruction cuz it might as well be a crit 0 bleed
OCC: 2 tokens for burning stars 25 dmg
Leper: blade goes down 80 dmg
#1 beginner mistake: not learning tokens and token management
Beginner mistake is spending candles on the swag and drip reskins instead of putting them all to Highwayman or MaA for Ez game.
But seriously, survival first, then swag guys.
Apparently the swag gives buffs but i'm not sure, and yeah i just... never buy MaA upgrades because sergeant is trash.
About combat items: what if i get a hero goal which makes me use an item that i don't want on that character (like bandages for plague doctor or runaway)?
That's fine. Use them and get it over with lol
you only gain the reward of the region if you complete the goal?
Yes. So if it's avoid the watch tower for example, you won't get it if you go to the watch tower.
4 turns to be proactive? Hahah just finished act 3 with shuffle party. Needed like 10-15 turns for the non-simple zombie fights 😅.. with fully upgraded heroes
4:20 A little thing TTRPG players call the 'Action Economy' , the more turns you have than the enemy, the higher chance you win, and focus firing allows you to get rid of an enemy turn permanently.
Learned something new today: you can stop the wagon by opening the wagon screen (press Z). This can help you if you need to change your setup at the last minute.
I will say your "youtube voice" makes you sound so much more professional than before. It hasn't even been that long
Crazy I just watched this one from a year ago.
#1 Not using Jestal
True, mandatory duo
Funny finale cycle + holy assault rifle
👏looking 👏forward👏to👏next👏monday👏
How are you playing the game when it hasn't even released yet?
Early Access version from epic games store lol
Can you skip combat ability cut scenes ?
I personally use WeMod trainer to set the game speed to 1.3
We just started the game, idk wtf nodes and sh1t are or look like