@@j8rtUfh3evz It's moving over early that causes the issues, nothing to do with being polite. You're supposed to use the entirety of the road to avoid the queue backing up and blocking other junctions further back. This is exactly the point Dave Armstrong was making. People moving over as early as possible are using the road incorrectly.
Ive said it before and ill say it again "it would be better to not sign post which lane is closed and let drivers merge in turn without getting uppity about some one doing it properly", no doubt i will be saying it again in the near future coz thats how i roll.
good idea... replace the signs used here with just "lane closing, merge in turn", and put cones on both sides, so the traffic on both sides has to merge into the middle. it would need slightly more road, and more cones, but that's not an issue in most cases like here, as there's plenty of road.
1st clip complains about red light runners then proceeds to jump the green, also just because the light turned green doesn't give you a right to proceed, it only gives you priority on the condition that it's safe to do so and your exit is clear.
1:22 All the info is in the Lines. Longer they are the higher the risk. Solid means crazy and illegal. It's not that difficult. I guess in the past they'd be canon fodder in some battle.
The driver at the lights at 0.50 secs is correct that two or three card may have gone through a red light, however they themselves accelerated when the light were red and amber, before lights had gone green. They are just as bad
#0:40 First you Just refused to let an idiot through (I'll show them) Then your like René Arnoux trying to win a boat race? #3:17 dogs name was rover #7:06 I will admit I was a complete cockwamble blocking roads when its a merge in turn, but soon realized the error of my ways, sadly not many people can do this.
@@OreoCrunch1994 amber also means stop, must have been amber for some time considering it went red the second after you passed the stop line. Traffic lights literally do not go from green, to amber to red in less than a second. Not excusing the van though, just making an observation
@Thomo-ke8bz the van at the traffic light was right up my arse, if I'd stopped at the amber he'd of gone in the back of me so in my judgement I kept going, for him to come round the side of me and cause the accident anyway, I'm not excuses ingrown myself going through an amber. I was using my better judgement as the van showed no intention of slowing down behind me...
1:36, ,I been on wider roads than that that are steeper and people still over take around blind bends , some people these days are off their heads driving and need banning.
@@neuralwarpso how exactly so they do roadworks to repair the carriage way, broken water mains, etc when to do so requires the road it is in to be closed, particularly when there is.a lane next to that but of road? Close the whole road instead of just the lane needing the work? Close the lane fit the while road which will push the pinch point back up the road? What about junctions in a dual carriage way? How can traffic join _without_ merging? But whenever a duel _[sic]_ carriageway ends, there must, by definition, be a merging of the lanes. To prevent such merging, all dual carriageways need to be single laned single carriageway roads. After all, there must be a reason there are two lanes there in the first place...
There was a TV campaign when they brought -Darth Vader- the green cross code man out of retirement to teach _adults_ about aafe crossing the road without their noses buried in their phones. Did it work? No, so they've try to change the Highway Code rules to make the adults who do this totally unresponsable for their own behaviour and blame the other road users for their recklessness.
Keep thinking I should keep a laminated piece of A4 in the car (saying "MERGE IN TURN" or similar) to hold up when I find myself in situations like this, to tell people what is going on! Horns just sound aggressive, but people need to know the rules of the road.
Last clip - the British like to queue. Get with the program. In all seriousness, he was complaining about a lack of merge-in-turn yet his first instinct was to go on the internet and check the status of the vehicle that cut across him rather than just let a bit of poor driving go.
He let's it go. Next guy it happens to let's it go and before you know it. We end up with this, queues twice as long. So no don't let it go. Have the idiot learn how to drive.
The merge in turn at the end was just laughable, I would be on the horn to those fools all cus they don't know how to use all road space, if they just used that lane to the left before it merged then there wouldn't be a long queue, everything is see people blocking that lane which is empty like the recovery truck needs to get a life and look up the highway code, 9ne of the most annoying things on our roads, the dreaded merge in turn, people just don't understand 😅😅🙄🙄
there are many reasons but please read section 188 of the highway code for the UK - You should apply the same rules to approaching and entering mini-roundabouts as you would normal roundabouts. - It is important to remember that all vehicles must pass round the central markings, unless they are too large to do so.
@@Hu5ky He had nothing to say about the incorrect use of the roundabout. He mentioned the lead up to it (video driving up the street to reach the roundabout) was superfluous.
why would you? the sign I saw said the lane closes in 200 yards. that means the lane is still usable, so why sholdnt you use it? if you were not supposed to use that lane, then the works team would have closed it earlier. everyone going into a single lane early just makes the back of the queue longer. the cammer was trying to do a zipper merge at the merge point, which is exactly what you should be doing at that speed.
back in the 1980's I drove a road sweeper from the early 70's on the surface dressing gangs. The early ones had two sets of controls and you were supposed to drive to the job sitting on the right, then throw a lever to swap the hydraulics and sweep sitting on the left. Both steering wheels would turn together no matter what. We just drove everywhere sitting on the left. I had a big Alsatian at the time, imagine the look on peoples faces when they glanced into the cab saw a steering wheel turning with a dog sat behind it. Classic.
I think, so many of the cammers on here should just throw their dashcams away, chill, move on, and get on with their lives instead of obsessing with a non-event.
It's not worth having a smart or expensive car - with the ever decreasing standards of driving on roads of UK ( i'm not perfect by any means but many of these drivers should surrender their license)
4:18 - I hope it's not just me, but I don't see the problem. The main reason mini roundabouts are installed is to adjust the priorities (i.e. force all approaches to give way to the right). They're not there to make drivers arbitrarily put in an extra chicane when the junction is clear. As long as that van driver also understands that, and uses the mini roundabouts correctly when they're not on their own, I don't see straightlining when it's very clear as a problem.
The Highway code says you're wrong: 188 Mini-roundabouts. Approach these in the same way as normal roundabouts. All vehicles MUST pass round the central markings except large vehicles which are physically incapable of doing so. (Rules in the Code which are legal requirements, and which you will be committing a criminal offense if you disobey, use the words “must/must not.”)
Exactly. As long as you drive aware of everything you're doing then this shouldn't make any difference to anyone. I think driving with awareness and pragmatism (maybe even common sense) should be something people learn too, rather than just rigid rules applied to scenarios that may not be appropriate. For example, driving by parked cars & leaving space - I've seen plenty of drivers drive inches from parked vehicles just so they don't cross the centre white lines, even though there is no oncoming traffic and clear visibility for miles. Similarly, the "right of way" warriors who don't read the road & just drive into a situation making it worse, because "HWC says ..." but they often aren't reading the road, are only concerned with being right, and/or are using a biased or incomplete interpretation of the rules.
It's the idea that they waited in the queue why can't you. All they see is Mr Important can't wait.... Replies suggest I don't know "Merge in turn" ... I say if that's the why did quite a few drivers not let let Mr Important in? End Of
Well, I'll throw my 2 pence worth in on the last one. Everyone was pulled across cos the left lane was closed and the cammer was trying a massive que jump..... I'd have blocked them too. So there!😋
But why? Everyone sitting in that one lane is a sheep and should read the highway code. When there's a merge in turn, traffic should use all the space available and *merge in turn*. If you want to sit in one lane with everyone else then fine, but you shouldn't stop someone for wanting to follow the advisories in the very thing you're supposed to learn before driving.
@@kylehobdey7594Try that move on a fast moving motorway and enjoy breakfast at the hospital next day, merge in turn is about as dumb a ruling you can find in the highway code.
I dont blame the recovery truck driver in the last clip, why cant the arrogant just wait, like he had to when no one let him in, merge in turn does not work in this country, it just winds drivers up, you wouldn't go to the front of the que in supermarket and expect someone to let you in
Merge in turn keeps traffic moving. It is people that don’t know the Highway Code should not be driving. It is not arrogant. It is correct use of all the road space.
But it's not arrogance, it's just people trying to use the road as intended, quite legitimately. The "drivers" that get wound up by this and the ones that block the road are the ones who don't know how to drive.
@6:15, can you not understand that your actions of driving all the way up to the choke point is pissing off people who do the right thing and merge in turn ?
that's not the right thing, it's just being a sheep. "merge in turn" means merge together, alternating in turn with which lane goes next. you cant do that if everyone has already formed a single lane by the 200 yard sign. that just makes the queue longer, as it wastes 200 yards of clear road. if you werent meant to use that road, it would have been coned-off already.
Why do so many drivers not understand Merge in Turn?
It beggar's belief doesn't it. 🤷♂🤷♂
I know this one. It's because they're as thick as s*** and they don't read the Highway Code.
@@mrhuffler9791 because people are stupid
6:11 most people are polite and move over early... bmw always try to get to the front no matter what.
@@j8rtUfh3evz It's moving over early that causes the issues, nothing to do with being polite. You're supposed to use the entirety of the road to avoid the queue backing up and blocking other junctions further back.
This is exactly the point Dave Armstrong was making. People moving over as early as possible are using the road incorrectly.
Ive said it before and ill say it again "it would be better to not sign post which lane is closed and let drivers merge in turn without getting uppity about some one doing it properly", no doubt i will be saying it again in the near future coz thats how i roll.
good idea... replace the signs used here with just "lane closing, merge in turn", and put cones on both sides, so the traffic on both sides has to merge into the middle. it would need slightly more road, and more cones, but that's not an issue in most cases like here, as there's plenty of road.
1st clip complains about red light runners then proceeds to jump the green, also just because the light turned green doesn't give you a right to proceed, it only gives you priority on the condition that it's safe to do so and your exit is clear.
1:22 All the info is in the Lines. Longer they are the higher the risk. Solid means crazy and illegal. It's not that difficult. I guess in the past they'd be canon fodder in some battle.
Stop at traffic lights. When they change - go! (never mind the colour. bound to be right half the time).
The driver at the lights at 0.50 secs is correct that two or three card may have gone through a red light, however they themselves accelerated when the light were red and amber, before lights had gone green. They are just as bad
#0:40 First you Just refused to let an idiot through (I'll show them) Then your like René Arnoux trying to win a boat race?
#3:17 dogs name was rover
#7:06 I will admit I was a complete cockwamble blocking roads when its a merge in turn, but soon realized the error of my ways, sadly not many people can do this.
Yet another great example of drivers not understanding how to use the full lengh of the road to merge in turn.
1:04 The van driver is driving correctly in the right lane, but the lady is taking up 2 lanes😂
0:59 Kayleigh, did you inadvertently record yourself cruising through an amber/red?
It was an amber light. I knew I had enough time before it went red. I drive that roundabout multiple times a day.
@@OreoCrunch1994 amber also means stop, must have been amber for some time considering it went red the second after you passed the stop line. Traffic lights literally do not go from green, to amber to red in less than a second. Not excusing the van though, just making an observation
@Thomo-ke8bz the van at the traffic light was right up my arse, if I'd stopped at the amber he'd of gone in the back of me so in my judgement I kept going, for him to come round the side of me and cause the accident anyway, I'm not excuses ingrown myself going through an amber. I was using my better judgement as the van showed no intention of slowing down behind me...
The merge in turn fail by everyone is so funny and embarrassing. I’d feel like a right fool just sitting in one lane like that😂
1:36, ,I been on wider roads than that that are steeper and people still over take around blind bends , some people these days are off their heads driving and need banning.
People just don't get the merge in turn rule and cause more delays.
There shouldn't BE any merges. Road authorities need a good shake.
@@neuralwarpso how exactly so they do roadworks to repair the carriage way, broken water mains, etc when to do so requires the road it is in to be closed, particularly when there is.a lane next to that but of road? Close the whole road instead of just the lane needing the work? Close the lane fit the while road which will push the pinch point back up the road?
What about junctions in a dual carriage way? How can traffic join _without_ merging?
But whenever a duel _[sic]_ carriageway ends, there must, by definition, be a merging of the lanes. To prevent such merging, all dual carriageways need to be single laned single carriageway roads.
After all, there must be a reason there are two lanes there in the first place...
@@neuralwarpyou shouldn’t be on the road.
There needs to be a TV campaign to teach about about merge in turn.
I’ve been saying that for years. A PSA would definitely be beneficial.
There was a TV campaign when they brought -Darth Vader- the green cross code man out of retirement to teach _adults_ about aafe crossing the road without their noses buried in their phones. Did it work? No, so they've try to change the Highway Code rules to make the adults who do this totally unresponsable for their own behaviour and blame the other road users for their recklessness.
That would require levels of intelligence far above anything that anyone in government positions is capable off.
Keep thinking I should keep a laminated piece of A4 in the car (saying "MERGE IN TURN" or similar) to hold up when I find myself in situations like this, to tell people what is going on! Horns just sound aggressive, but people need to know the rules of the road.
Last clip - the British like to queue. Get with the program.
In all seriousness, he was complaining about a lack of merge-in-turn yet his first instinct was to go on the internet and check the status of the vehicle that cut across him rather than just let a bit of poor driving go.
He let's it go. Next guy it happens to let's it go and before you know it. We end up with this, queues twice as long. So no don't let it go. Have the idiot learn how to drive.
The merge in turn at the end was just laughable, I would be on the horn to those fools all cus they don't know how to use all road space, if they just used that lane to the left before it merged then there wouldn't be a long queue, everything is see people blocking that lane which is empty like the recovery truck needs to get a life and look up the highway code, 9ne of the most annoying things on our roads, the dreaded merge in turn, people just don't understand 😅😅🙄🙄
4:20 I WAS MUCH MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PEDESTRIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣
4:19 why is this clip so long? The incorrect use of the roundabout is 20 seconds of dead video later.
there are many reasons but please read section 188 of the highway code for the UK
- You should apply the same rules to approaching and entering mini-roundabouts as you would normal roundabouts.
- It is important to remember that all vehicles must pass round the central markings, unless they are too large to do so.
@@Hu5ky He had nothing to say about the incorrect use of the roundabout. He mentioned the lead up to it (video driving up the street to reach the roundabout) was superfluous.
@@Hu5kyI've seen 40 ft coaches manage to circumnavigate a mini roundabout that 14 ft cars failed to do...
2:01 the caption is a bit late. 🤣
Why did the liverpool cam driver not pull out before he got to work's there was anough sinage to tell him work's were ahead
Changed their mind, didn't fancy the wait?
Read the HIghway code, you may learn a thing or two.
why would you? the sign I saw said the lane closes in 200 yards. that means the lane is still usable, so why sholdnt you use it? if you were not supposed to use that lane, then the works team would have closed it earlier. everyone going into a single lane early just makes the back of the queue longer.
the cammer was trying to do a zipper merge at the merge point, which is exactly what you should be doing at that speed.
back in the 1980's I drove a road sweeper from the early 70's on the surface dressing gangs. The early ones had two sets of controls and you were supposed to drive to the job sitting on the right, then throw a lever to swap the hydraulics and sweep sitting on the left. Both steering wheels would turn together no matter what. We just drove everywhere sitting on the left. I had a big Alsatian at the time, imagine the look on peoples faces when they glanced into the cab saw a steering wheel turning with a dog sat behind it. Classic.
I think, so many of the cammers on here should just throw their dashcams away, chill, move on, and get on with their lives instead of obsessing with a non-event.
6:06 i knew what was about to come though didn't expect the stupid truck. zipper merge? what's that?
It's not worth having a smart or expensive car - with the ever decreasing standards of driving on roads of UK ( i'm not perfect by any means but many of these drivers should surrender their license)
It quite often seems that the value of the car dictates the degree of arrogance with which the owners drive; eg, BMW, Jaguar, etc.
6.25. Why do some commercial drivers think that they are the road police?
All the usual suspects. Van drivers, BMW drivers, elderly drivers.
07:22 People so don't know the "merge in turn" rule or are just too stupid to do it. Causing more disruption.
Hate to be pedantic but I thought you spelt kerb not curb or have you been taken over by the aliens across the pond?
3:20 Maybe it was a Rover?
Was that dog driving a rover?
"Have your fun. Stay Safe" everyone....
After experiencing the drive from UK to Italy and back,I think this video is quite tame.
@6:10, for all they knew, you wanted to turn left, into a road or driveway and not continue straight up the road.
Hi "Plymouth" I've got an Abarth too!
Merge in turn not a deliberate block by arse in flat bed
Driving dog .call the RSPCA.
I have seen one do that in Barking
Why do so many people not understand merge in turn?
4:18 - I hope it's not just me, but I don't see the problem. The main reason mini roundabouts are installed is to adjust the priorities (i.e. force all approaches to give way to the right). They're not there to make drivers arbitrarily put in an extra chicane when the junction is clear. As long as that van driver also understands that, and uses the mini roundabouts correctly when they're not on their own, I don't see straightlining when it's very clear as a problem.
The Highway code says you're wrong:
188
Mini-roundabouts. Approach these in the same way as normal roundabouts. All vehicles MUST pass round the central markings except large vehicles which are physically incapable of doing so. (Rules in the Code which are legal requirements, and which you will be committing a criminal offense if you disobey, use the words “must/must not.”)
@@ed_j_webb I might not be "right", but I don't see my scenario as a problem. That's all.
Exactly. As long as you drive aware of everything you're doing then this shouldn't make any difference to anyone.
I think driving with awareness and pragmatism (maybe even common sense) should be something people learn too, rather than just rigid rules applied to scenarios that may not be appropriate.
For example, driving by parked cars & leaving space - I've seen plenty of drivers drive inches from parked vehicles just so they don't cross the centre white lines, even though there is no oncoming traffic and clear visibility for miles.
Similarly, the "right of way" warriors who don't read the road & just drive into a situation making it worse, because "HWC says ..." but they often aren't reading the road, are only concerned with being right, and/or are using a biased or incomplete interpretation of the rules.
It's the idea that they waited in the queue why can't you. All they see is Mr Important can't wait.... Replies suggest I don't know "Merge in turn" ... I say if that's the why did quite a few drivers not let let Mr Important in? End Of
never heard of merge in turn?
Check your highway code. Ir states use all lanes and merge in turn at cut off point.
cos they are muppets who dont understand zipper merge either. as you've proven, it's all too common.
you obviously have no clue of how to drive on UK roads
Well, I'll throw my 2 pence worth in on the last one. Everyone was pulled across cos the left lane was closed and the cammer was trying a massive que jump.....
I'd have blocked them too.
So there!😋
But why? Everyone sitting in that one lane is a sheep and should read the highway code. When there's a merge in turn, traffic should use all the space available and *merge in turn*. If you want to sit in one lane with everyone else then fine, but you shouldn't stop someone for wanting to follow the advisories in the very thing you're supposed to learn before driving.
It's called merge in turn and if you aren't aware of it you should probably do a refresher course.
This is the reason I drive a £500 car on my commute to work. I'd have happily trade paint with those cars that don't understand the merge in rule.
You shouldn't drive then. You use both lanes up to the closure and then zip merge otherwise it causes more traffic
@@kylehobdey7594Try that move on a fast moving motorway and enjoy breakfast at the hospital next day, merge in turn is about as dumb a ruling you can find in the highway code.
I dont blame the recovery truck driver in the last clip, why cant the arrogant just wait, like he had to when no one let him in, merge in turn does not work in this country, it just winds drivers up, you wouldn't go to the front of the que in supermarket and expect someone to let you in
Tell me you don't know the rules of the road without telling me you don't know the rules of the road!
@@ohallifax Lol!
Merge in turn keeps traffic moving. It is people that don’t know the Highway Code should not be driving. It is not arrogant. It is correct use of all the road space.
🤣🤣🤣
But it's not arrogance, it's just people trying to use the road as intended, quite legitimately. The "drivers" that get wound up by this and the ones that block the road are the ones who don't know how to drive.
@6:15, can you not understand that your actions of driving all the way up to the choke point is pissing off people who do the right thing and merge in turn ?
You should read the Highway Code before you get behind the wheel.
When merge in turn is in operation you’re supposed to go right to the end in two lanes and merge one for one at the end.
that's not the right thing, it's just being a sheep. "merge in turn" means merge together, alternating in turn with which lane goes next. you cant do that if everyone has already formed a single lane by the 200 yard sign. that just makes the queue longer, as it wastes 200 yards of clear road. if you werent meant to use that road, it would have been coned-off already.