Should Merle have survived longer? The Walking Dead Hot Takes

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  • @0fficalHellfire
    @0fficalHellfire หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Completely agree about season 2. The grounded and emotional connection to the characters we gained from it makes it my favorite as well. Great video brother

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@0fficalHellfire it was such a simple but effective season of television, thank you so much bro!

  • @Zeroshiki
    @Zeroshiki หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I think he died exactly when he was supposed to in a way that worked perfectly for his character, something that's really rare in this series. I just hate that the governor is the one that was able to best him, because he always looked way less intimidating than Merle imo.

    • @jonfreeman9682
      @jonfreeman9682 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      His ending was perfect but just when he's been given a redemption and fans come to embrace him they kill him off. But they killed off so many great characters I think it was a perfect ending.

    • @twilightgardenspresentatio6384
      @twilightgardenspresentatio6384 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonfreeman9682 I think that’s what you’re supposed to do. You’re supposed to kill them off right as they gain redemption or right before.
      I like how many people he took out I like how visceral the fight was that took him out
      I expected more than just a one on one with the governor to take down Merle though but it did show how vicious the governor actually is

  • @daltonnash362
    @daltonnash362 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I think he’s one of those characters that would work either way because his redemption arc on the back half of season 3 is really good and his death has so much development for Daryl it’s kinda hard not to have it so early but on the other hand it would be pretty cool to see how things would be in the long run

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Agreed! I thinks merles death was vital in the character development of Daryl.

    • @jonfreeman9682
      @jonfreeman9682 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He was such a great character and I'm glad he got a redemption but would be nice if he lived longer. TWD is the kinda show that isn't afraid to kill off great characters to keep the show fresh. But Merrill is the classic antihero.

  • @BURP39R
    @BURP39R หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Darabont wanted to create a multi branch story. Gimple wanted a cash cow.
    Breaks my heart to hear what Darabont wanted.
    The most painful part is, they aren't even possibly expensive..

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@BURP39R yeah 100% I wish we’d seen his vision play out :(

    • @EmiliaDrozd-en3pv
      @EmiliaDrozd-en3pv หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      could you elaborate on what Darabont wanted to do with merle ?.

  • @khleezy5839
    @khleezy5839 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Originally he was supposed to live longer. But his death was last minute thing.

  • @MLink7
    @MLink7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    But the thing is, Negan could've killed Merle after the punch so Daryl could feel guilty for his brother's death.

    • @ThatsThatOneKidd
      @ThatsThatOneKidd หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That’s a LONG ASS extra life for Merle.

  • @incrediblylarge-man5607
    @incrediblylarge-man5607 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I always thought that Merle could take Dale’s death because I just thought the whole “TAINTED MEAT!” thing was such a Merle line and it tied back to his very first plot in the series where Rick says, “there’s only light meat and dark meat.”
    I think that if he had survived to this point that he would have had a plot with Glenn (and Tara) after the fall of the prison where they finally begin to understand eachother and get along for the sake of their continued survival because while in the prison Glenn had avoided Merle.
    Tara would be straight + older and have a romance with him because he would actively be trying to be a better person and wouldn’t know about his experiences of having been the governor’s right hand man because Merle would be ashamed of his actions and Glenn wouldn’t tell her with his reasoning being that Tara would be like the Maggie to Merle’s Glenn and he wouldn’t want anothers relationship to be divided like his is at the moment.
    The information would only be known by Tara because she’d be talking to like Michonne or something about her past and how she wound up traveling with Glenn + Merle because of the fact that she used to be a part of the Governor’s group and how she’s feels so sorry about that and then Michonne would go, “it’s funny how you and Merle have that trait in common.” Tara would then find out everything about what he did when asking further and then she would have a big argument with Merle but that would be right before Merle is bitten and taken by the Termites so there would be an element of suspicion of if he killed himself or ran away after feeling rejected by everyone again.
    Merle having his leg cut off could make for a pretty sick, “arm + a leg” joke by Merle on his deathbed and I suppose the timing of his death would be pretty tragic for Tara because of the fact that she didn’t get to end things on the absolute greatest of terms.
    A potential negative for this arc is of course the age difference between Tara and Merle but some of Dale’s feelings of inadequacy for Andrea could be adapted from the comics, being an inverse of the pompousness Merle showed at the beginning of the series which could be revealed as having been a mask for how he really felt and that he was actually trying to convince himself he felt that way. This addition could also create more suspense for the reveal of where Merle has disappeared to.
    A definite negative however would be that the inclusion of this arc would entirely negate the need for Bob + Sasha as characters and if you were to remove them it would leave Maggie alone after the fall of the prison and the only grouping you could really put her in would be with Daryl + Beth which actually would be pretty good to show the sisters bond and Maggie and Daryl could bond over how they have a loved one and they don’t know where they are.
    I know that I just gave counterpoints to what were supposed to be negatives but here’s one that would be a full stop negative with the inclusion of this arc: that including the redemption of Merle would require the show to end after the sparing of Negan. The arc would show that if someone like Merle who was racist and sexist and on the side of the enemy could (eventually) be forgiven that there is hope for him and thus no tension towards the issue of his acceptance, especially since Negan showed the humanity within him numerous while on his “villain arc” in a way that Merle did not.

  • @TheRealBlackarrot
    @TheRealBlackarrot หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think if Merle joined Rick n' The Gang & at Terminus he took Bob's place & actually got stabbed in the eye it would've made the situation even darker

  • @hollowinside1962
    @hollowinside1962 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    this video is 5% about Merle

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@hollowinside1962 that’s how hot takes work, I talk about lots of different subjects…

  • @themoongateofficial
    @themoongateofficial หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    “Hell yeah Merle should live longer” I said to my brother as I read the title

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hahahah that’s class 😭😭😭

  • @jamesbounds
    @jamesbounds หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I would have liked him to have lived to at least the Savior ark.

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It would have been awesome to see him face to face with Negan!

    • @jamesbounds
      @jamesbounds หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@theohuntt Agreed

  • @rashawnevans5288
    @rashawnevans5288 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As Ash would say in Army of darkness to evil ash, Good..bad,am the guy with the 🔫!.

  • @insuchaway
    @insuchaway หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I didnt like how the Govna just ragdolled him...

  • @Cobrawolfwyvern
    @Cobrawolfwyvern หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I do agree that rick has a lot of plot armor, but a lot of twd characters now, but hands down rick and Daryl have the most, I would say rick has more then daryl, and his plot armor is way, way worse in towl (much more noticeable)
    And as much as I would have loved merle to live longer, I don't think Daryl would have become who we know him as today as much anways, and I think where merle died, was a good place to end him off
    I did enjoy s2, was good development for daryl and other characters, more daryls development though, I did hate the amount of drama in it, I loved the whole shane going down a dark path and shit, and the development of mostly daryl, and the friendship slowly growing with daryl and carol.
    And the whole humor with glenn and maggie😂❤

  • @forcelord9999
    @forcelord9999 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good video
    But my hot take is Rick and Jessie were a better couple then Rick and Michonne and felt more Natural imo

    • @dnadz
      @dnadz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bro I lowkey agree I’ve always thought the same

  • @BURP39R
    @BURP39R หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Merle dying was excellent. Redemptive arc.

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Agreed!

  • @blakematthews6374
    @blakematthews6374 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “I have fear as the number 1 spinoff if we pretend it ends after season 3” is a wild take 😂. You can’t just ignore the terrible… parts of the show which is way longer than the good parts lol.

    • @jonfreeman9682
      @jonfreeman9682 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fear is a fantastic show and great spinoff. I like the early seasons with Madison but Morgan coming in works too. I think the nuclear season and the final season is a perfect ending.

  • @corbinowens2437
    @corbinowens2437 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:12 real 😂😂 & man the shit Carol & Daryl be surviving 😂😅

  • @greenbeantm1096
    @greenbeantm1096 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    7:07 Morgan without a doubt has the most plot armor. Like I’m sorry he’s not surviving as long as he did just using a stick as a weapon and refusing to kill people

  • @Submissive-Soul
    @Submissive-Soul หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    darrow and carrow definitely have insane plot armor

  • @Melissa-jp8ps
    @Melissa-jp8ps หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think a fun and intriguing storyline for Merle would have been, he had Tyrese's place with the girls and Carol when the prison fell.

  • @skullskills7772
    @skullskills7772 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Merle should have survived longer ps great video theo👍

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!!!! 🫶🏼

  • @twilightgardenspresentatio6384
    @twilightgardenspresentatio6384 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When it comes to plot armor, I remember the video game Abe’s odyssey. The game was not about if you were going to make it, but the story of how you made it.
    You are the one who made it and that’s why we backtrack and look at your story. The story is not created as you go, but it’s told in hindsight.

  • @naytny5819
    @naytny5819 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On rewatch Merle is probably atop 3 character for me. Daryl used to be my favorite in the 1st 3 seaons but Merle became my favoirte because of how complex he is as a character and his small redemption arc by the end of Season 3.

  • @BURP39R
    @BURP39R หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Saying Fear is the second best is like choosing a person that bullied you as a kid because someone else abused you.
    They're all tarnished by the failings.
    *And yes, I'm fine with S02 TWD.
    It's a light tone when you could just feel things had to change.

  • @Gyro_a_Destroyer
    @Gyro_a_Destroyer หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Finally someone else who likes fear The walking Dead

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Gyro_a_Destroyer hahah there’s not many of us around lol

  • @kaylemjoseph8727
    @kaylemjoseph8727 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    fear the walking dead season 3 is the best from twd spinoffs. (CRM was failed in ones who live episode 6)

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kaylemjoseph8727 I couldn’t have said it better myself

  • @DaLegend-nz6li
    @DaLegend-nz6li หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My hot take is that Maggie should've died instead of Glenn, maybe not the line up since Negan doesn't enjoy killing women, but i just feel like after Glenn's death, she became a one dimensional character, she became fixated on hating Negan, on the other hand, seeing Glenn loose Maggie would've made him go through some interesting storylines, and having him around more would've helped the show.

    • @HenzoW-cf3mh
      @HenzoW-cf3mh หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If Maggie died then Negan would not be spared. Glenn had to die to push the story forward for Negan as well as Maggie. Glenn or Daryl were the only choices that could’ve worked.

  • @ChampionProductionsYT
    @ChampionProductionsYT หลายเดือนก่อน

    My hot take: Daryl is underrated and underappreciated. Despite him being deemed the fan favorite, I've mostly seen people say his character has "no/bad writing" or "he has been the same character since season 4/5." When really Daryl's character arcs are some of the best in the show, and he is the second best character in terms of writing after Rick, yes I do think he is better written than Shane, Negan and all other characters. There are layers of depth, complexity and relatability within his character that people just don't seem to see and they trash him because of it.

  • @DylanDuncan-u3s
    @DylanDuncan-u3s หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yoo the title is named after my hot take let's go

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hahahah thank you for your hot take!

  • @notkoto
    @notkoto หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Instead of Abraham it could’ve been Glenn and Merle that negan kills

  • @dnadz
    @dnadz หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Great video man. I can totally agree with the fact that TOWL was rushed and it should’ve had more episodes. Thanks for choosing my hot take!

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@dnadz of course bro thank you for sending it in! I hope they do a season 2 of TOWL!!!

  • @HenzoW-cf3mh
    @HenzoW-cf3mh หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yh I agree that Fear is the best spin-off. I absolutely loved the season finale when Nick blew up the bridge and we have no idea who survived (let me cope). Such a brave way to end the show.

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @HenzoW-cf3mh yeah I wish we’d got a season 4 but oh well the 3 seasons of fear we did get were PEAK!

    • @HenzoW-cf3mh
      @HenzoW-cf3mh หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @ fr

  • @corbinowens2437
    @corbinowens2437 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think they knew they weren’t gonna get Andrew or Danai back after TOWL so they knew they had to rush the CRM storyline.
    Which really sucks cause you’re right that should’ve been this universes Endgame

  • @Crasnos
    @Crasnos หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Season 2 TWD after s1 was like the interviews with the tributes in the hunger games. Is a sick slow way to make us fall in love. V
    ote for our favorites. Betting on them. We are the viewers of this. And ofc people die and stop watching. Season 7 is less of an example because we already acquainted ourselves with our group. But I wish after every action packed season would lead to another slow burn.. Add more tributes to get to know. Hell season 5 could've started the exact same way but we saw more depth into their journey to Virginia ever was. It kinda felt like we jump from Atlanta to Alexandria with no breathing space in between. WHAT HAPPENED ALL IN BETWEEN THERE. Much more

  • @Tylerdurden977-l8c
    @Tylerdurden977-l8c หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Theo, I have a very controversial hot take that I know people are going to hate, both Lori and Andrea died too early, I think Lori should’ve died when she died in the comics not necessarily with Judith but just as she’s running, I also think that it would’ve been far more interesting to have Andrea be the lily caul of the tv show, say the governor made her pregnant and she lost the baby and the governor manipulates her into thinking it’s ricks fault and she participates in the final battle and kills Lori, immediately racked with guilt and despair for betraying her former friends; she kills the governor and commits suicide with her gun which is ironic as she wanted to die in season 1, I actually thought at the time this could happen as there were hints before with Andrea being influenced by both Shane and the governor and it even adds an interesting element between the Lori and Andrea rivalry, a very fitting end for 2 very unlikable but compelling characters

  • @garymorris7472
    @garymorris7472 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Merle vs. Beta would have been epic.

  • @KeKe_Antoinette93
    @KeKe_Antoinette93 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I cant really say if rick is good or not because if i was in a zombie apocalypse i might end up a villain 😂

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      EXACTLY I think all of us would do things we probably wouldn’t be proud of hahaha

  • @theruiner4272
    @theruiner4272 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    here are my thoughts on the hot takes:
    1. Rick's spinoff show is surprisingly good, though it was rushed towards the middle an end and prob needed more episodes. i also felt like Rick chopping off his hand was just fan service. when it comes to spinoffs, i personally prefer the first two or three seasons of Fear The Walking Dead. as a whole though, even though The Ones Who Live isn't the best show, FTWD is MUCH worse than The Ones Who Live. I mean it'd be difficult to make a show as bad as Fear turned out to be. The Ones Who Live is more consistent in its quality. and it's decent and entertaining. whereas FTWD started off with two or three really good seasons (with some stupid shit in it like Travis's death), while the rest of the show is just shit. it isn't even the same show. as a WHOLE, the Rick spinoff is better than Fear.
    2. Rick is, throughout 95% of the show, good guy. the "evil" things Rick has done was kinda unrealistic. And I'm not talking about the moment where he butchered the cannibals or when he bit off Joe's neck or when he went completely nuts towards the end of season 5, or even when he ran over that Grady Memorial Cop. I'm talking about when he needlessly sacrificed the safety of his group, his son, his daughter, and Michonne by raiding one of the savior Outposts in season 6, and killing a bunch of people in their sleep. That was not only straight-up evil, but it was poorly executed and poorly written. other than those instances, Rick is a good man. the "evil" things he realistically does in the show was to protect himself, his family, and his people. and that's just something you need to do in this world. Bro the guy was so good that he struggled to decided whether or not he should kill Randall, a man who was part of a group who almost killed Rick, Glenn, and Hershel. what you said about him is correct. what makes this man so interesting is the fact that even though the man does many ruthless things that would make people question if he's a good guy or not and yet still be a good guy is amazing and pretty much makes him the best character in the entire show.
    3. season 2 is a bit weird to me. much of the show is very boring and some parts are COMPLETELY nonsensical. like the whole part where the group, for whatever reason, decided to send Glenn down a well to get an obese walker out of a well. the first half especially isn't very good and is nowhere near as good as the first season. but the second half of season 2 is actually really good. it still has some problems, like characters going from character to character saying the same things and also staying at the barn for too long. But the whole conflict between Rick and Shane, the whole Randall situation, what happened with the barn, Rick killing those two guys in the bar, and the finale of the show are awesome. as a whole, season 2 is like a 6/10. the good of season 2 is awesome. even brilliant at times. but the lows of season 2 are honestly even worse than some episodes in the later seasons.
    4. I don't think Merle should've survived longer than he should've. by season 6, some characters were already overstaying their welcome. Even Daryl. Merle, although is a fantastic character (one of my personal favorites), isn't the kinda character who should survive longer than he should've. in my opinion, his death and character arc is one of the best in the entire show. to sacrifice that just so that he could get his head bashed in would be stupid. I mean what would the guy be doing between seasons 3 and his hypothetical death in season 7? Also, i think Daryl would do much more than a simple punch if Negan picked his brother. Daryl would probably do something even before Negan killed Merle. i have a feeling both men would end up dead if Merle survived just to get killed by Negan. ALSO i agree with what you said about T-Dog not surviving long enough into the group. Personally i think T-Dog should've survived and Tyreese should've never been introduced into the story. Because much of what Tyreese does in the show could've just been done by T-Dog, and it would've made things even more impactful since T-Dog was in the show since the very beginning. They're both strong, physically strong, non-violent and peaceful men. As for Sasha, alot of what she does in the show kinda mirrors what Andrea could've done had she survived (Sasha and Bob is like the show version of Andrea and Dale in that whole Fear The Hunters plot in the show and comics AND Andrea becomes a sniper-like character), so Sasha is another character who kinda doesn't need to be in the show. but that's a whole other topic. I do think the show really missed out on a reunion between T-Dog and Merle.
    Merle's death was also vital in fleshing out Daryl's character. I mean no doubt, the show could've done a better job at this. I mean Daryl hardly ever mentions Merle later on in the show. But not only does Merle's death make Daryl a much more hardened soldier, but it also sorta puts Daryl on a path of proving his brother wrong. i mean remember how Merle would talk about how Daryl is serving Rick and kissing his ass? Daryl becomes a more independent, yet also a more reliable character and he becomes Rick's prime enforcer (i wouldn't quite say he was Rick's right hand man until Glenn died. Glenn to me felt more like a right hand man or a second in command than Daryl. especially right before the group reach Alexandria.).

  • @coolbeans7349
    @coolbeans7349 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    yes, love merle!

  • @twilightgardenspresentatio6384
    @twilightgardenspresentatio6384 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For this to have taken nine years means the entire project was scrapped and restarted from nothing multiple times or they just wasted so much time doing nothing instead of writing

  • @dwight3555
    @dwight3555 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    *have survived longer

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I’ve just changed it thank you hahah!!!

  • @Papillon234
    @Papillon234 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I miss season 2

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same 🥲

  • @steventomasi5557
    @steventomasi5557 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do and don't agree with you on the Merle thing, yes he should have survived longer but I also say he shouldn't have lived long enough to make the line up. I feel like he either A should've had Hershal's show death where instead of kidnapping Hershal and Michone it should have been Merle and Michone give how much he hate both of them or B. He should have gotten the tainted meat death where Rick is the one to put him down since Daryl is in Atlanta and then Daryl uses the save Beth mission as a distraction from his brother's death thinking to himself "I got to save Beth since I couldn't save Merle" with Merle's last words being to Rick " take care of my baby brother officer friendly"

  • @ilovesunsets
    @ilovesunsets หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Are you a journalist or an artist, a writer? Because the way you write and narate these videos is just *chef's kiss*

    • @theohuntt
      @theohuntt  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hahaha stop it you’re making me blush!!!

    • @ilovesunsets
      @ilovesunsets หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @theohuntt as you should, king! 😘😄

  • @corbinowens2437
    @corbinowens2437 หลายเดือนก่อน

    S2 is Top 3 seasons for me

  • @LarryHayward-v7p
    @LarryHayward-v7p 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I never like CRM arc and Some people needs to stop being weird about the ones who live.💯💯💯 The Ones Who Live was so good.💯

  • @Rick79LUFC
    @Rick79LUFC หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Morgan should of died back in S1 such a annoying character kill don't kill kill don't kill ...like make up your mind the man depresis the F out of me lol

  • @JoeyDooda
    @JoeyDooda 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hope my hot take gets noticed :))

  • @Rick79LUFC
    @Rick79LUFC หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rick's fine I can't stand Meshon or how ever u spell her name as a couple they look ridiculous 🙄