I’m glad someone mentioned Ishtar and Hachiman. She’s legitimately just him but better in every single way, they only thing he really has over her is a virtually unmissable chasedown ulti.
An honorable mention is Tiamat’s Consume vs Bakasura’s Eat Minion. Tia’s version is instant, in an aoe, deals damage to all enemies in range regardless of minion status, gives her an extra buff, and grants damage reduction that needs to be broken off while she’s in melee stance. Meanwhile Bakasura gets a little bit of health back and protections. He does get some cooldown on his other abilities after it was buffed, but that’s hard to compete with Tia who just has more abilities to use
baka stack his passive, both the Minions stacks and his own passive (idk what its called) .. its much more beneficial. while Tia only benefit to use on buff only..
@@jukkininth4837 I did forget to include Baka’s attack speed passive. But as far as the other part goes, that’s an aspect of a different ability that just has direct synergies with Baka’s Eat Minion. I would assume that if Tia had an ultimate equivalent to Baka’s ult, it’d synergize similarly as well. However, the attack speed buff you get from Baka’s passive isn’t substantial enough to discount the negatives of Baka’s ability, mostly being the reliability. Eat Minion can only be used on minions to get any effect and its animation is long enough that it can be canceled by the minion being killed by other damage, by Baka being cc’d, or by moving slightly too far out of range before the minion gets eaten. In comparison, Tia’s is near instant, aoe, and deals damage and a slow to any enemy regardless of devour status. It’s just less clunky and more reliable while having more effects that can be used in a larger variety of situations
@@BamaMophi both ability serve different purposes at its core. so its kinda unfair to keep comparing the two.. also, eventhou individual ability might be weak, the synergy between all other abilities is what matter. baka eat minions are designed so he can stack minions, secure buff easily, and give burst of his passive n HP heal.. ive never see baka failed his eat animations, as long as u alr execute the ability, u will eat it eventually no matter how far u go.. + if use in laning phase u can easily suprise enemy by eat minion, gain passives, jump n kill enemy with the passive up. while Tia eat minions are just to double buff, and outside of that it just a normal Cone-shape dmg that deal Chang'e level dmg.. it doesnt give any other benefits at all..
King authors ultimate being hard cc while doing percent health true damage on release comes to mind it's similar to a number of abilities while it broke all the rules
I'd like to add Medusa's dash getting powercrept by Ishtar's dash. Ishtar's dash does more damage from both the start to end and is way safer to use agressively than Medusa's dash. The only upside for Medusa is that it's cooldown can be lowered by 2s after leveling it up.
@@nicememes7570 I like that lol, I play a lot of Hachi not really a main, but he's my most played god. His kit feels well but usually its best to either point skip his 1 until 14 to max banner and dash and points into ult THEN get 1 or just get 1 at 3 and like never upgrade it, it feels so bad to have such a bad ability on an otherwise good/average kit.
I like that idea I thought they could just make it a stim where it increases his auto range like normal but instead of having a only 4 autos it has a 3 or 4 seconds so it’s dependent on the amount of aa attack speed
The most offensive has to be Atlas 2 vs Fenrir ult. Its essentially the same thing. However it can grab multiple targets and you can technically do it at a range with atlas's deployable 2
Awilix’ Suku can jump over walls and blocks which is a really helpful addition to his effect, easier to escape with and chasing jumpers. Lancelot’s mount simply just cant do that.
So, video idea maybe; abilities that you think really need to be updated. Like with so many similar but some being so much better, you think some gods need just a lil something added to their abilities to make them a bit better?
The idea is slightly similar to his "One Buff For Every [role]" videos, highly recommended if you haven't seen em yet. But yeah, it's still a good idea, can take a bit of a different direction with that.
I think we have enough options to pick from in Smite and that I would be all for next year to just have reworks across the board. Like 3 full reworks, redesign atleast 2 abilities + passive on some low picked gods that are just objectively kinda boring, and 5 soft reworks where they just redesign one ability or a passive or give a buff where they bloat a skill more to get in line with newer gods.
Fen just needs a new ult, he’s either too tanky for his non ultimate abilities to be useful or he’s not tanky enough to survive using his ult to set up a kill for his team
I’m surprise that he did not put Maui with Syl and Arachne pulls. I know it does not pull all the way to the model but it’s holds them longer for team fights.
I actually think Maui''s ability is weaker than Sylvanus for several reasons: 1 It doesn't go through walls. 2 you have to charge the ability to get range on it. 3 It is doesn't pull people that far out of position because it is a vortex not a pull. The only real difference is that Maui does damage and isn't rooted when using the ability however his movement is severely hampered and he can't do anything else. Honestly it acts more like Khepri dash than Sylvanus pull.
Hachi is one of those gods who could probably use a partial rework. Hes not exactly bad, but god some of his kit absolutely blows ass. His 2 is fine, his dash is interesting but not great, his ult is good, but his 1 just absolutely does nothing for him, and his passive is literally the most useless in the game. Like a mana passive might be good on an ability focused hunter like amc or medusa, but on hachi? Yeah, no, garbage. Also, as someone who plays a lot of both lance and awilix, honestly, one thing lance doesnt have that awilix does is precision and true control. The horse auto runs and has a slow turning radius, and also dont offer extra mobility besides the horse, awilix can instantly turn, strafe (if slowed), and have 100% full control over suku, which sounds small but it makes it so much safer and has much more utility in terms of mobility. Its still worse, but its not nearly as clear cut as you make it seem.
@@Ak-ce5wi Achilles 3 is more versatile due to the fact that you have to roll before you use it which makes him harder to hit and more unpredictable whilst Lance always has to go straight to his target
@@dannyflintstone7003 theyre both predictable, the only difference being in how theyre reset. Not getting the second dash off is just a huge loss of damage for Achilles, and loss of sustain too.
I feel like you missed the power creep for Hachimans dash compared to Ishtars. Hachimans is shorter and only stuns if you pass through the target while Ishtars dash is longer and only requires you to hit the target and you get imo better cc and you get a free escape.
@@ans-dq9xh its the same concept .. a dash that give more benefit against enemies. yes ishtar cant dash thru multiple gods but she has the 2nd leap that make her jump to safety while Hachi dash and just stuck infront of the enemy face.
everything on this list made sense to me except the tsuku susano comparison. only similarity is the three part cast but I hardly think that makes them comparable. susanos is for damage and movement whereas tsuku's is a disarm and a stun, used in completely different ways and do completely different things. should not have been compared to each other
Tsuku gets movement speed on his and it’s often used for the extra movement. The point is that Susano’s is specifically for damage and Tsuku’s did significantly more damage at release on top of having serious CC and movement attached. To say they shouldn’t be compared is disingenuous
@@aegerman6317 I just think they shouldnt be compared because of what they do, like I said, susanos all three parts of the cast are damage, thats it and then movement with the dash at the end. tsukus is a disarm and a stun, in terms of what they are, they are not related
the susano and tsuku comparison isn't very fair just because theyre both kind of "circular" abilities. They are so different, have way different range, and offer so many different things. I'd honestly rather have the susano 1 because you can burst way harder with it due to auto cancels, AND you have the dash at the end where tsuku is still knockup-able in his 2 channel and it doesnt do that much dmg late game due to susano auto cancel burst.
Granted this was a comparison video, but I knew power creep kicked into high gear when Achilles showed up, double dash like nem, and a resetting execute. A note on susano you could compare his 1 to rats entire kit essentially, even before his rework, but definitely moreso after the rework
The Sylvanus three vs Arachne ult is the biggest one to me because of how long he can keep someone cc'd with his kit. He can easily confirm the pull by rooting the target 1st and then ult them to keep them cc chained.
Sylvanus' Wisp is also arguably a better version of Aphrodite's Love Birds: He puts out almost as much healing while doing significantly less damage, BUT he can heal more than two people at a time unlike Aphrodite, as well as giving them protections.
Another direct comparison I can think of is Da Ji's Paolao vs Ares' No Escape: Da Ji is untargetable for up to 5 seconds, it does more damage, it leaves a DoT, it has more than double the range, the chains have a slow effect, you bring the enemies to you rather than you having to go to them. Meanwhile Ares has a lower cooldown, lower mana cost and his ult isn't a skillshot (though you still have to put yourself in harm's way to ult). In gamemodes like Arena there's an even bigger difference between the two because you can pull 5 people into your fountain from the safety of the spawn as Da Ji but Ares could never. Sure they're both just there to burn beads at this point but Da Ji definitely has the upper hand despite the ult clearly being something a Guardian should have and not an Assassin.
I'd add Rama's 1 against izanami's basic attack. Even tho you can say izanami's basics are power creeping all adcs basic attacks, the comparison is more direct with rama, since he has to spend mana to clear the wave and only has 5 basic attks while izanami can just mindlessly press left click
Power Creep = the process in which newly-added-content can be played along with the old-content, but with the new content being far more powerful/useful in every sense.
Even though Hachis 1 is trash compared to Ishtar, I still love Hachi, mainly because he is a Samurai, and well... Samurai look cool. Especially the Oni Musha skin is just fire. Pround 2k worshipper on hachi lol.
Would you not compare the power creep of Arachnes old ult with BASTETS NOW CURRENT ULT? which is bullshit XD cause I personally think its just Arachnes old ult and not like Fenrirs old ult
We have different all have different idea's for who is really a power creep, but the term can't really be interpreted as it literally means power that creeps, or Sneaks up meaning it wasn't there before but its slowly gets buffed under the radar of most people to become the strongest or one of. (which i'm pretty sure is what you said.) Btw i voted 4 ur arse fyi during that golden stuff.
Old Persephone could have also been very well compared to Odins Ult. one was just arguably better bc it kept people from walking away from the center and it could be done from phoenix to tier 1 Tower
This is going to sound silly but... Can you make this again with the sides switched... It took me for ever to figure out the new god was on the left instead of the right!
How could you not include Tiamat/Bakasura? Tiamat's minion execute + double buff + aoe is just 1000% better in literally all cases. Heals if she builds lifesteal and doesn't take a second to go off so the enemy can't steal the buff while mid cast like Bakasura... It's dumb, Bakasura needs a new kit imo.
Disagree with susanoo/tsukuyomi. Su 1 is a godly hydra proccing tool and a dash which is an immediate evade, not ms. I’ve never even thought they were supposed to be the same.
Hello Intersect! I'm doing a Game Balance project for MOBA games in my University Ludology class. Would I be allowed to use this video as a source when talking about evidence of Power Creep in Smite? I haven't played in a really long time and I don't know a lot of these new Gods.
I really think they need to slow down on the new gods and focus on reworking older ones to be better. Like hachi should get a new passive and 1 and make the 3 a easier stun.
To be fair, Arachne's old stun was scarier than a sylv stun because she'd pull you into a pile of spiders before jumping on your head to chunk the heck out of most gods.
Tsuku’s 2 sucks now. the disarms DR each other and the stun, and I’ve had an ADC shoot 1 auto between they last disarm and the stun and kill me because of it. yes they had max DR when the 2nd disarm hit them, but that’s still insane that I couldn’t stun them because I died to an auto from a target that was disarmed for such a short amount of time. give me Sus damage with his auto cancels all day
I would like to mention Ares/Cerb/XingTing < Maui. Maui's "pull the whole team ult" activates faster and safer (at a distance) than all their ults, does the same thing but has a wall. That is ton of power creep. A/C/XT all had long wind ups where Mauis does not. They all have to rush the enemy team where Maui does it at distance. They all are easily beads'd but Maui's is not because it is a quick knock-up. And he gets a large wall that blocks the direction he was pulling from. Its not power creep, its power leaps.
i love tsuku but thats easily his worst ability and i'd rather have susano 1 for the AA cancels and the mobility which wasn't mentioned, it's way too easy too interrupt tsukuyomi in his 2, and the movement speed from it is negligable
no offense but this list was like... terribly done. the fact one of the listings isn't even in game anymore, and has long since been changed (arachne/syl comparison) is wild. a lot of these are not power creep, youre just taking abilities that share like 1 aspect and being like "well this new one does more, the old one got power crept" which completely ignores like, the main reason for use with some. like yemoja and odin. one did not power creep the other (and even if they did, to say yemoja ult is better and odins is crazy)
Yeah this is one of the weaker ones. Awis mount gets a leap vs a shield. You can literally miss Bastet ult vs Fen. Yems walls have to be set up properly rather than just dropping Odin cage anywhere. Lots of weird nuances that aren't really the same Hachi power creep like with Ish
@@lukebyrne7946 exactly, especially on the yemoja/Odin one. I was so confused on why he brought those 2 up when you do completely different things with them.
Erlangs 1 is definitely not better than Fens 2. Even building full damage, that ability just sucks on erlang. Fen can have a bloodforge and pop his 2 and tank everything that’s not mage burst or crits in a row. Erlang just dies
Not going to mention that Lancelot also power creeps Achilles,? With his double dash resetting on minions unlike Achilles, and his cone attack being a knock back instead of a stun, an overall better cc.
to be fair the knockup from Lance 2 is extremely brief and he has to basically go through enemies in order to dash twice with his 1, achilles also has that additional roll which makes you able to juke abilities while also dishing out damage. Plus achilles has an execute which is just extremely nice to have
I wouldn’t say Lancelot power creeps Achilles that much, the Lane dash thing is definitely questionable when compared to Achilles’ 3, but Achilles 3 also is like double the range and it can move in any direction, if they changed the fact that you could also activate it by hitting minions, he’d become a war criminal cause he would have near constant pressure. The CC thing is 100% accurate though, the knockback, the slow and two cripples in his kit, plus a tank passive. I think Lancelot powercreeps warriors in general.
Saw the tsu and sus comparison and knew it was a bot video. I could give 10 big reason why they so different, others were fine, but I think ur just clueless on tsu
Don't love this vid, because you're not really factoring in the kits as a whole. Susano has much more mobility over tsuk, hard to compare. Also, tsuk was literally one of the most OP releases I ever experienced. I'd much rather have the Mulan, yaga, atlas Maui releases where they weren't released clearly overpowered. Give me those every day
I disagree, Chiron ult does more damage, goes through walls and can be used to avoid certain death if you land a kill with it. Not to mention he can use his 2 off of it. Hachi ult is better for guaranteed damage, chasedown and escapes
@@dannyflintstone7003 Its does more damage IF you hit 3 strikes.Also u need to root yourself while enemy team chunks your health under threshold if you can kill someone during that you are ok.Otherhand we have hachiman with cone shaped hitbox also great escape tool.After Hachiman release only thing make Chiron relevant is his passive
@@TheJanissary90 im pretty sure one hit from chiron ult + the 2 off of that does more damage than hachi ult. plus it going through walls makes it way more useful during teamfights. also chiron is more relevant than ever since he's amazing if you build full power on him since he's basically a phys mage
@@dannyflintstone7003 Really you saying psyhical mage a good thing.Even when ability base hunters meta he was mediocre at best.Medusa and Ullr fill that spot in every ranked match.And now when aa base hunters replace mages ib mid u saying he is good?Dude I know you like Chiron but its obvious which one better.Wall shots doesnt tip to scales.
@@TheJanissary90 His ult isnt the only thing you should look at, Chiron is reallly good when ability based because of how easy he can apply damage, one auto = guaranteed 2. If they're over a wall he can 1 then 2, his dash goes far and the cc is useful for 1v1ing and escaping. Chiron isn't bad, saying that he's good isn't that big of a deal. It's not like i'm saying he's meta defining or anything.
I’m glad someone mentioned Ishtar and Hachiman. She’s legitimately just him but better in every single way, they only thing he really has over her is a virtually unmissable chasedown ulti.
good thing ishtar doesnt have long range cc to make up for that
oh wait
as a hachi main, her release hurt 😔
It’s painful to be a Hachi main now I just get upset whenever I see her
To me, Hachiman always felt underwhelming. His passive doesn't even make much sense
@@jjgarcia156 it does? hitting autos grants you mp5, it's pretty simple
An honorable mention is Tiamat’s Consume vs Bakasura’s Eat Minion. Tia’s version is instant, in an aoe, deals damage to all enemies in range regardless of minion status, gives her an extra buff, and grants damage reduction that needs to be broken off while she’s in melee stance. Meanwhile Bakasura gets a little bit of health back and protections. He does get some cooldown on his other abilities after it was buffed, but that’s hard to compete with Tia who just has more abilities to use
baka stack his passive, both the Minions stacks and his own passive (idk what its called) .. its much more beneficial. while Tia only benefit to use on buff only..
@@jukkininth4837 I did forget to include Baka’s attack speed passive. But as far as the other part goes, that’s an aspect of a different ability that just has direct synergies with Baka’s Eat Minion. I would assume that if Tia had an ultimate equivalent to Baka’s ult, it’d synergize similarly as well. However, the attack speed buff you get from Baka’s passive isn’t substantial enough to discount the negatives of Baka’s ability, mostly being the reliability. Eat Minion can only be used on minions to get any effect and its animation is long enough that it can be canceled by the minion being killed by other damage, by Baka being cc’d, or by moving slightly too far out of range before the minion gets eaten. In comparison, Tia’s is near instant, aoe, and deals damage and a slow to any enemy regardless of devour status. It’s just less clunky and more reliable while having more effects that can be used in a larger variety of situations
@@BamaMophi both ability serve different purposes at its core. so its kinda unfair to keep comparing the two.. also, eventhou individual ability might be weak, the synergy between all other abilities is what matter.
baka eat minions are designed so he can stack minions, secure buff easily, and give burst of his passive n HP heal.. ive never see baka failed his eat animations, as long as u alr execute the ability, u will eat it eventually no matter how far u go.. + if use in laning phase u can easily suprise enemy by eat minion, gain passives, jump n kill enemy with the passive up.
while Tia eat minions are just to double buff, and outside of that it just a normal Cone-shape dmg that deal Chang'e level dmg.. it doesnt give any other benefits at all..
King authors ultimate being hard cc while doing percent health true damage on release comes to mind it's similar to a number of abilities while it broke all the rules
King author
I'd like to add Medusa's dash getting powercrept by Ishtar's dash. Ishtar's dash does more damage from both the start to end and is way safer to use agressively than Medusa's dash. The only upside for Medusa is that it's cooldown can be lowered by 2s after leveling it up.
Honestly they should just give Hachi's 1 DoT. Like cmon the arrows are on FIRE
To make it unique they could have the dot be strong but only start after 2+arrows hit
@@nicememes7570 I like that lol, I play a lot of Hachi not really a main, but he's my most played god. His kit feels well but usually its best to either point skip his 1 until 14 to max banner and dash and points into ult THEN get 1 or just get 1 at 3 and like never upgrade it, it feels so bad to have such a bad ability on an otherwise good/average kit.
I like that idea I thought they could just make it a stim where it increases his auto range like normal but instead of having a only 4 autos it has a 3 or 4 seconds so it’s dependent on the amount of aa attack speed
They just announced for 9.11 his arrows would do 110% of Basic Attack damage at all ranges. So yeah it’s a start I guess
You might be on to something here 🤔
The most offensive has to be Atlas 2 vs Fenrir ult. Its essentially the same thing. However it can grab multiple targets and you can technically do it at a range with atlas's deployable 2
atlas 2? Nah try bastet 4 vs fenrir 4
yes but no
Awilix’ Suku can jump over walls and blocks which is a really helpful addition to his effect, easier to escape with and chasing jumpers. Lancelot’s mount simply just cant do that.
So, video idea maybe; abilities that you think really need to be updated. Like with so many similar but some being so much better, you think some gods need just a lil something added to their abilities to make them a bit better?
The idea is slightly similar to his "One Buff For Every [role]" videos, highly recommended if you haven't seen em yet. But yeah, it's still a good idea, can take a bit of a different direction with that.
So many cookie cutter abilities in smite this may be too easy lol
I think we have enough options to pick from in Smite and that I would be all for next year to just have reworks across the board. Like 3 full reworks, redesign atleast 2 abilities + passive on some low picked gods that are just objectively kinda boring, and 5 soft reworks where they just redesign one ability or a passive or give a buff where they bloat a skill more to get in line with newer gods.
Instead of bastet and fenrir ults. How about atlas 2 and fen ult? Atlas has fenrir ult on a way lower cd, plus can get multiple people at once.
Fenrir ult is kinda omegalul when you really think about it.
Fen just needs a new ult, he’s either too tanky for his non ultimate abilities to be useful or he’s not tanky enough to survive using his ult to set up a kill for his team
I’m surprise that he did not put Maui with Syl and Arachne pulls. I know it does not pull all the way to the model but it’s holds them longer for team fights.
I actually think Maui''s ability is weaker than Sylvanus for several reasons: 1 It doesn't go through walls. 2 you have to charge the ability to get range on it. 3 It is doesn't pull people that far out of position because it is a vortex not a pull. The only real difference is that Maui does damage and isn't rooted when using the ability however his movement is severely hampered and he can't do anything else. Honestly it acts more like Khepri dash than Sylvanus pull.
@@jettblade I can understand that.
Ye man Sylv pull is stronger like blitz v thresh
Hachi is one of those gods who could probably use a partial rework. Hes not exactly bad, but god some of his kit absolutely blows ass. His 2 is fine, his dash is interesting but not great, his ult is good, but his 1 just absolutely does nothing for him, and his passive is literally the most useless in the game. Like a mana passive might be good on an ability focused hunter like amc or medusa, but on hachi? Yeah, no, garbage.
Also, as someone who plays a lot of both lance and awilix, honestly, one thing lance doesnt have that awilix does is precision and true control. The horse auto runs and has a slow turning radius, and also dont offer extra mobility besides the horse, awilix can instantly turn, strafe (if slowed), and have 100% full control over suku, which sounds small but it makes it so much safer and has much more utility in terms of mobility. Its still worse, but its not nearly as clear cut as you make it seem.
I'm surprised there wasn't a nod to Achilles and Lancelot. I enjoyed this video
U talking about which?
@@theslayer5978 Their dash abilities, Achilles has to use his 3 on an Enemy God to get the 2nd reset, whereas Lancelot only has to hit minions
@@Ak-ce5wi Achilles 3 is more versatile due to the fact that you have to roll before you use it which makes him harder to hit and more unpredictable whilst Lance always has to go straight to his target
@@dannyflintstone7003 theyre both predictable, the only difference being in how theyre reset. Not getting the second dash off is just a huge loss of damage for Achilles, and loss of sustain too.
I feel like you missed the power creep for Hachimans dash compared to Ishtars. Hachimans is shorter and only stuns if you pass through the target while Ishtars dash is longer and only requires you to hit the target and you get imo better cc and you get a free escape.
Not the same utility . She can't go throught enemies . Ofc she can to escape but she can't cc without wasting the escape potential
@@ans-dq9xh its the same concept .. a dash that give more benefit against enemies. yes ishtar cant dash thru multiple gods but she has the 2nd leap that make her jump to safety while Hachi dash and just stuck infront of the enemy face.
everything on this list made sense to me except the tsuku susano comparison. only similarity is the three part cast but I hardly think that makes them comparable. susanos is for damage and movement whereas tsuku's is a disarm and a stun, used in completely different ways and do completely different things. should not have been compared to each other
Tsuku gets movement speed on his and it’s often used for the extra movement. The point is that Susano’s is specifically for damage and Tsuku’s did significantly more damage at release on top of having serious CC and movement attached. To say they shouldn’t be compared is disingenuous
@@aegerman6317 I just think they shouldnt be compared because of what they do, like I said, susanos all three parts of the cast are damage, thats it and then movement with the dash at the end. tsukus is a disarm and a stun, in terms of what they are, they are not related
the susano and tsuku comparison isn't very fair just because theyre both kind of "circular" abilities. They are so different, have way different range, and offer so many different things. I'd honestly rather have the susano 1 because you can burst way harder with it due to auto cancels, AND you have the dash at the end where tsuku is still knockup-able in his 2 channel and it doesnt do that much dmg late game due to susano auto cancel burst.
Granted this was a comparison video, but I knew power creep kicked into high gear when Achilles showed up, double dash like nem, and a resetting execute. A note on susano you could compare his 1 to rats entire kit essentially, even before his rework, but definitely moreso after the rework
Give awilix the ability to knock up from on top suku
The Sylvanus three vs Arachne ult is the biggest one to me because of how long he can keep someone cc'd with his kit. He can easily confirm the pull by rooting the target 1st and then ult them to keep them cc chained.
up until the dr change, now your reward for hitting your abilities is like a 1.2 second cc chain lmao ( exageration obviously )
@@bryanhaha1234 to be fair, after the dr change, now you should always be rooting then pulling, as those ccs are not affected by dr
@@skeletalspiders6697 not pulling, then ulting, then rooting?
I love Ishtar and always find it weird she doesn't get played more
Sylvanus' Wisp is also arguably a better version of Aphrodite's Love Birds:
He puts out almost as much healing while doing significantly less damage, BUT he can heal more than two people at a time unlike Aphrodite, as well as giving them protections.
Another direct comparison I can think of is Da Ji's Paolao vs Ares' No Escape:
Da Ji is untargetable for up to 5 seconds, it does more damage, it leaves a DoT, it has more than double the range, the chains have a slow effect, you bring the enemies to you rather than you having to go to them.
Meanwhile Ares has a lower cooldown, lower mana cost and his ult isn't a skillshot (though you still have to put yourself in harm's way to ult).
In gamemodes like Arena there's an even bigger difference between the two because you can pull 5 people into your fountain from the safety of the spawn as Da Ji but Ares could never. Sure they're both just there to burn beads at this point but Da Ji definitely has the upper hand despite the ult clearly being something a Guardian should have and not an Assassin.
I think new Bastet ult is more a power creep to old arach ult more so than fen ult
I always think of how similar yu haungs ult is to Charybdis ult. Yu haung just has a better version
Chary ult more satisfying to land tho
charybdis ult RESET ... stun, and also easier to hit cuz its more instant compare to Yu Huang
I'd add Rama's 1 against izanami's basic attack. Even tho you can say izanami's basics are power creeping all adcs basic attacks, the comparison is more direct with rama, since he has to spend mana to clear the wave and only has 5 basic attks while izanami can just mindlessly press left click
You do release Rama has build in slow and these basics fking go through walls, do you? have never read sth so unqualified
@@GrinKeeper jesus christ man, so aggresive. Calm your tits would ya?
Power Creep = the process in which newly-added-content can be played along with the old-content, but with the new content being far more powerful/useful in every sense.
Ishtar's entire kit is a rip off of like 5 gods or more - Sylvanus, Hachiman, Neith, Apollo, Yemoja
Wow smite really deals well with powercreep compared to idk League
Even though Hachis 1 is trash compared to Ishtar, I still love Hachi, mainly because he is a Samurai, and well... Samurai look cool. Especially the Oni Musha skin is just fire. Pround 2k worshipper on hachi lol.
Same. He's my favorite ADC ATM
Would you not compare the power creep of Arachnes old ult with BASTETS NOW CURRENT ULT?
which is bullshit XD
cause I personally think its just Arachnes old ult and not like Fenrirs old ult
Not to mention the sand that also slows you and damages you after bastet ult grabs you vs fen’s
I miss my old spider queen I remember when u could stuck webs behind people to know u gotta chase them made it better but I miss the old her
I feel like HiRez says it's a "bug" whenever a new god is under or over preforming
Let's not forget that Gilgamesh's 2 is just Kumbha's 1 but way better.
You forgot the 100% necessary sand whirlpool vortex that Bastet ult plops you into
We have different all have different idea's for who is really a power creep, but the term can't really be interpreted as it literally means power that creeps, or Sneaks up meaning it wasn't there before but its slowly gets buffed under the radar of most people to become the strongest or one of. (which i'm pretty sure is what you said.) Btw i voted 4 ur arse fyi during that golden stuff.
Old Persephone could have also been very well compared to Odins Ult. one was just arguably better bc it kept people from walking away from the center and it could be done from phoenix to tier 1 Tower
This is going to sound silly but... Can you make this again with the sides switched... It took me for ever to figure out the new god was on the left instead of the right!
there's is also lancelot dash and shield powercreeping achillies
How could you not include Tiamat/Bakasura? Tiamat's minion execute + double buff + aoe is just 1000% better in literally all cases.
Heals if she builds lifesteal and doesn't take a second to go off so the enemy can't steal the buff while mid cast like Bakasura... It's dumb, Bakasura needs a new kit imo.
Disagree with susanoo/tsukuyomi. Su 1 is a godly hydra proccing tool and a dash which is an immediate evade, not ms. I’ve never even thought they were supposed to be the same.
They gotta do a mini rework for haci my suggestion, just give him more range on his enhanced autos
Danza sake heals him but bacchus wine doesn’t. They power crept alcohol
You forgot Mulan's 3rd ability being an obnoxious version of Sylvanus' pull
Hello Intersect! I'm doing a Game Balance project for MOBA games in my University Ludology class. Would I be allowed to use this video as a source when talking about evidence of Power Creep in Smite? I haven't played in a really long time and I don't know a lot of these new Gods.
Of course my man, go right ahead :)
Chernobog's ult and Apollo's ult?
I really think they need to slow down on the new gods and focus on reworking older ones to be better.
Like hachi should get a new passive and 1 and make the 3 a easier stun.
How was there no Morgan Le Fays 1 power creeping Han Batz Ult lol? Not even an honorable mention?
To be fair, Arachne's old stun was scarier than a sylv stun because she'd pull you into a pile of spiders before jumping on your head to chunk the heck out of most gods.
Tsuku’s 2 sucks now. the disarms DR each other and the stun, and I’ve had an ADC shoot 1 auto between they last disarm and the stun and kill me because of it. yes they had max DR when the 2nd disarm hit them, but that’s still insane that I couldn’t stun them because I died to an auto from a target that was disarmed for such a short amount of time. give me Sus damage with his auto cancels all day
some multi cc abilities shouldnt apply multiple stacks of dr imo, it's just depressing
There is also Lances dash compared to Achillies dash.
While it is comparable I wouldn't say Lances dash is powercreeping Achillies.
I would like to mention Ares/Cerb/XingTing < Maui. Maui's "pull the whole team ult" activates faster and safer (at a distance) than all their ults, does the same thing but has a wall. That is ton of power creep. A/C/XT all had long wind ups where Mauis does not. They all have to rush the enemy team where Maui does it at distance. They all are easily beads'd but Maui's is not because it is a quick knock-up. And he gets a large wall that blocks the direction he was pulling from. Its not power creep, its power leaps.
I feel like fen and bast ult isnt as egregious as it sounds. Very comparable imo, very powercreep heavy too.
I miss old Arachne ult, Sylvanus’ pull is so damn sloooow
Didn't Bastet technically get Arachne's ult but hers gives CC immunity and does damage? edit: I guess it's more a combination of Fenrir + Arachne lol.
I'd argue that arachnes old ult is more comparable to bastets current but yeah.
Since when did Bastet not just summon 3 cats what happened to this game
Ishtar
No way people really think Charybdis 3 is better than sol 3. Crazy to me
i love tsuku but thats easily his worst ability and i'd rather have susano 1 for the AA cancels and the mobility which wasn't mentioned, it's way too easy too interrupt tsukuyomi in his 2, and the movement speed from it is negligable
obv not release tsuku 2 but current*
honorable mention: lancelot and achilles 3
Yu huangs "leap" and chang'e dodge, his is better lasts longer and does dmg
Man I really need to read what passive actually do..
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Gilgamesh ult is better Odin Ult In my opinion
Idk, intersect. I hit a 1047 with tskuyomi
no offense but this list was like... terribly done. the fact one of the listings isn't even in game anymore, and has long since been changed (arachne/syl comparison) is wild. a lot of these are not power creep, youre just taking abilities that share like 1 aspect and being like "well this new one does more, the old one got power crept" which completely ignores like, the main reason for use with some. like yemoja and odin. one did not power creep the other (and even if they did, to say yemoja ult is better and odins is crazy)
Yeah this is one of the weaker ones. Awis mount gets a leap vs a shield. You can literally miss Bastet ult vs Fen. Yems walls have to be set up properly rather than just dropping Odin cage anywhere. Lots of weird nuances that aren't really the same Hachi power creep like with Ish
@@lukebyrne7946 exactly, especially on the yemoja/Odin one. I was so confused on why he brought those 2 up when you do completely different things with them.
Yemojas walls are unbreakable 😂
Cama passive and pele passive. Pele is literally just cama but better and more damage
I think Kumbha’s 1 with Gilgamesh 2 is another crazy example of power creep
Been saying it for a while. Tired of new gods having so much cc and movement. Makes old gods without it feel so bad… stop with the bloat hirez 🙄
Erlangs 1 is definitely not better than Fens 2. Even building full damage, that ability just sucks on erlang. Fen can have a bloodforge and pop his 2 and tank everything that’s not mage burst or crits in a row. Erlang just dies
Not going to mention that Lancelot also power creeps Achilles,? With his double dash resetting on minions unlike Achilles, and his cone attack being a knock back instead of a stun, an overall better cc.
to be fair the knockup from Lance 2 is extremely brief and he has to basically go through enemies in order to dash twice with his 1, achilles also has that additional roll which makes you able to juke abilities while also dishing out damage. Plus achilles has an execute which is just extremely nice to have
I wouldn’t say Lancelot power creeps Achilles that much, the Lane dash thing is definitely questionable when compared to Achilles’ 3, but Achilles 3 also is like double the range and it can move in any direction, if they changed the fact that you could also activate it by hitting minions, he’d become a war criminal cause he would have near constant pressure. The CC thing is 100% accurate though, the knockback, the slow and two cripples in his kit, plus a tank passive. I think Lancelot powercreeps warriors in general.
Me 4 star hachiman I cri
Saw the tsu and sus comparison and knew it was a bot video. I could give 10 big reason why they so different, others were fine, but I think ur just clueless on tsu
Take it back, the shiva and nem are the same example bruh, this my last video I’m watching of this bot
Don't love this vid, because you're not really factoring in the kits as a whole. Susano has much more mobility over tsuk, hard to compare. Also, tsuk was literally one of the most OP releases I ever experienced. I'd much rather have the Mulan, yaga, atlas Maui releases where they weren't released clearly overpowered. Give me those every day
BUFF HACHI 1!
Also Hachiman ult powercreeps Chiron ult.
I disagree, Chiron ult does more damage, goes through walls and can be used to avoid certain death if you land a kill with it. Not to mention he can use his 2 off of it. Hachi ult is better for guaranteed damage, chasedown and escapes
@@dannyflintstone7003 Its does more damage IF you hit 3 strikes.Also u need to root yourself while enemy team chunks your health under threshold if you can kill someone during that you are ok.Otherhand we have hachiman with cone shaped hitbox also great escape tool.After Hachiman release only thing make Chiron relevant is his passive
@@TheJanissary90 im pretty sure one hit from chiron ult + the 2 off of that does more damage than hachi ult. plus it going through walls makes it way more useful during teamfights. also chiron is more relevant than ever since he's amazing if you build full power on him since he's basically a phys mage
@@dannyflintstone7003 Really you saying psyhical mage a good thing.Even when ability base hunters meta he was mediocre at best.Medusa and Ullr fill that spot in every ranked match.And now when aa base hunters replace mages ib mid u saying he is good?Dude I know you like Chiron but its obvious which one better.Wall shots doesnt tip to scales.
@@TheJanissary90 His ult isnt the only thing you should look at, Chiron is reallly good when ability based because of how easy he can apply damage, one auto = guaranteed 2. If they're over a wall he can 1 then 2, his dash goes far and the cc is useful for 1v1ing and escaping. Chiron isn't bad, saying that he's good isn't that big of a deal. It's not like i'm saying he's meta defining or anything.
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Cthulhu and fafnir
None of these are a power creep EXCEPT maybe the first one but even then you're really stretching for videos now, aren't ya