FlySKY Paladin PL18 Transmitter
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- FlySKY Paladin PL18 Top of the range transmitter Range advertised as up to 3.5km range as is and up to 50km range with the FRM302 2W 2.4GHz module. High quality components like hall sensor gimbals and touch screen, very nice side sliders.
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FlySky-FS-CAT01-Altitude-Sensor - bit.ly/3jgaTeT
Flysky-FS-CVT01-Voltage-Collection-Module - bit.ly/3fFmylt
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UPDATE: The LED lights do serve a purpose for alarms and successful binding, but just cycle through the colours at other times. There are also voice prompts in Chinese accented English, but they are preset and not assignable. RSSI shows on the screen but I'm not sure how to send it to a flight control board.
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I've been using the PL18 since last year, i love it. I've had no issues at all with AFDHS3.
That’s a really nice transmitter, nice and simple GUI as well. Very impressed. Great video Andrew 👍🏻
Thanks 👍
I wasn't put off by the proprietary protocol....I wasn't put off by the wireless charger...but as soon as you said it was limited to 20 onboard model slots, it was game over for me. Thanks for showing it to us, though.
I first started out with a cheap flysky fs-i6...Amazing, then went to Fsi6-x, Amazing. There is nothing on the planet that can touch this at this price range. An absolutely amazing radio with amazing range.
Cult status I think
Great video! I would like to try one, but I am already so invested in Spektrum and my Taranis haha. I I would open it is up and disable the color light show bar haha. I agree that it has no place on a high grade radio. Your content is awesome! Thanks for sharing all of your RC knowledge and experience!
I have done the "black tape over LED" mod and it's much better
i know this is an old video and all but i just gotta say - i love the lights. I have the PL EV version as i'm more into robotics but i find it really useful. Childish it might be, but i love anything with flashing lights on it. i notice it's mostly older folks who are saying they dont like it, lol
great radio all in all. pricey but it really is the multitool of radio.
Only thing I wasn't too keen on with it is the wireless charging. I like my stuff to have replaceable batteries, and wireless charging is just a bit awkward and slow. But I get why they included it.
Superior build quality, but a bit limited compared to FrSKY and Radiomaster
Thanks for the shout out! I still really like the quality of this radio, I just set up my new LOS plane on it... lol I do miss some things from OpenTX though, and I would LOVE it if they every got OpenTX running on this one. I've seen some discussion about it, apparently the PL18 uses the same CPU that's in the T16/TX16S and Horus. It wouldn't be terribly difficult to port OpenTX to run on it, but it would need some cooperation from FlySky. You could open it up and map the pinouts and figure that part out, but they would need to provide some info on their internal protocols to support the FlySly modules. I'm guessing it would have to be after OpenTX gets the touch interface up and working too obviously. I think it would make this already nice radio a top contender for a lot more people if it happened though... ;) Anyway, I'm looking forward to your thoughts after flying with it!
Yes, quality feel for sure. With a few changes it would be a killer radio
This Flysky sounds great, I have a Flysky radio (4 years) and had no problems with it. I may change back to Flysky, if Jumper can't get their act together. They're having many problems wiith their radios, I myself had the Jumper t8sg plus V2, that crashed on me, also I have the Jumper T16 Pro v2 and Jumper TX, I'll see how they go. Some of their newer models are giving people problems as well...So there you go! Nice features and what not on this Flysky... Cheers and thanks for sharing! I apologise for this extended feedback, didn't mean to right a letter!
Good feedback thanks. You should see some of Elli's comment novels.
I just bought one. I like it, I had to buy the JR adapter and AFHDS2 module as well. Its not perfect and there are several things I would have liked differently but considering how insanely cheap it is I'm wiling to look over those things. Also several complaints I had were easily remedied with some of the available accessories which were very cheap as well. I do like how youc an power it through the USB port. And youc an change out the built in battery it just requires disassembling the radio, which if you're in this hobby should be no problem for you.
Exactly, most complaints about this radio can be easily worked out, like the adapter.
The battery inside for me it's a way better solution than a battery that can be taken out but rattles or needs to be packed with foam to avoid that. And who flies 6 or 8 hours without a pause?
With my bad eyes I think the screen text is sometimes too small especially in bright sunlight. And the sunshade is cheap and prone to break.
Power through the USB port! Nice one. Good to hear the internal battery is easily swapped too.
Thanks for reviewing this radio. I have it for about 7 months now and I still like it. Most of your review I agree upon however I think the battery fixed inside is a plus. First it's better not to always have to unplug for charging because connectors do wear out. Second I hate it when the battery rattles inside so you have to use foam to stop that (for a while). If the fixed battery fails in time a new one can be installed easily enough.
And who flies 4 hours without stopping? It's rated at 8 hours...
Next update should address the limited amount of models (now 20)
Will be very interesting to see how the long range module performs !
I'm keen on getting it for my Nirvana
Video coming soon.
Con todo respeto ese control esta de poca ma....3km y medio toda una aventura por los aires 👌👍
Very good review very nice but wondering if I want to fly a drone can I do it with this radio and in order to fly my other drones which 3party module do I need to buy???
Interesting radio really like the top display makes more sense. And some really nice features never considered flysky but may have to look into them ✌. but internal battery would have to go IMO👍 and it's tougher competition now with radiomaster and jumper playing in the game 😊
More models, SD card and swappable battery would make this a serious competitor
@@AndrewNewton agree👍
Looks to be a very nice radio, but seeing how Jumper and Radiomaster will fly all the old FlySky receivers and I bet the new ones plus just about everything else I don't think this will take the industry by storm. I do wish my TX16S had those sliders!
you can use the AFHDS2A receivers with PL18 by using the JR bay adapter FJR2 mentioned in the video.
@@FlyskyRCModel the Jumper and Radiomaster handle them natively. I think you are late to market and took a left when the industry went right.
It's good to be # 2 also.
Boss, I'm from Poland, I have a Flysky I6x, I'm happy. I'm flying a drone and I'd like a better radio. I really like this Flysky Paladin radio visually. I have a question, with a built-in battery, that's lipo, I worry about it, is there an option to replace the battery when it breaks (wears out) ???
I'm thinking about the Flysky Paladin and Frsky QX7S (+ R9M), I'm confused. Please, give me your opinion.
Do any of your computer specialist viewers . Happened to know of a way to expand the model list by attaching a DC powered external storage device to the transmitter . Through the cable that attaches to the computer ? Is it feasible to transfer models between the Paladin pl18 transmitter and a portable external storage system . If so , please explain . If not then why .. Thanks
very informative video, as you likely know i wont use any radio other than flysky, they just do what they say they do, still on my original fs ai6 and most of my friends i fly with have had various problems with their expensive radio`s, i also have a new FSi6x yet to use. I wanted to like this when it first came out, Rowland at Dutch really tried to get me to buy it, but its just not for me
Exactly man. Mine is running two 3500mah lion cells in parallel and I only have to charge it every 2 months
Andrew, thanks for the good review of the PL18!
I am looking at using two servos (R and L) for steering so +75 to -26 degrees rotation.
The 9imod DSC45MG-180 servo needs 500, 1500, 2500 usec PWM signal at 50Hz.
I cannot find out what the PWM is for the PL18.
Do you know or can you test what it is?
Stock setup is 1000 to 2000. May be able to extend that but I no longer have the Paladin to try it.
@@AndrewNewton Thanks
Andrew, a question if I may, have you come across a method on the Paladin to deploy flaps in a timed fashion for example over 5 seconds, I’ve been going through the options on the radio but cannot find any such thing? Jim
Must be a delay or slow function somewhere
Delay Setup - Middle screen
@@AndrewNewton fantastic I’ll take a look, 🍻 Andrew
If I would need to buy all new receivers or other equipment to have this new radio work... then I don't need or want it. New radios from the same manufacturer should be backwards compatible.
its about 40 bux to make it backwards compatible...not a huge deal imo, especially considering how insanely cheap it is.
you can use the AFHDS2A receivers with PL18 by using the JR bay adapter FJR2 mentioned in the video.
@@FlyskyRCModel why though. Why not just make this radio compatible with the millions of FS receivers all ready out there
Exactly. Thats a nice transmitter, with a lot of new ideas, but you need always new infra structure around it. Also the battery isn´t changable is not sustainable for that future, which I would prefer.
Quick question. The 3.5km range, is that using a long range receiver and 2 watts of radio power? This combined with taking into account your flight path/environment?
No. Might need to rewatch the video
I’m going to ask a question that is probably answered some where however I cannot find in the manual. I presume the USB cable is for charging, is it through a laptop? I haven’t seen anything about what you use to charge it.I used a small wall mounted charger and it looked like it wasn’t charging..
Yes that is the charge port. The USB charging parameters are in the manual.
Hi Andrew! How do you use the trainer function on the Paladin? I’m trying to figure it out on how will it work with the Flysky FSI6X as student and the Paladin as trainer. I already read the instructions and have the appropriate cable but still it won’t work.
I dont have the cable so have not tried it yet
Andrew Newton Too bad.
Does it have voice readouts for switches and what module do I need to use my many older Flysky Rxs.
Not for switches, preset heavily accented voice for alerts. Hopefully voice updates are coming. AFHDS 2A module Flysky-FS-RM003-Transmitter-Module AFHDS2A - bit.ly/3jagXWp
Andy between pl18 and radiomaster tx16 S . What should I go for in your perspective
TX16S, because it uses OpenTX and can bind to nearly all receivers
Hi Andrew,
Great vide
I do have another series of questions. I am trying to set up my glider with flaps. The Aileron / Rudd combined , separate elevator, but also combined elev with flap. I have read over the instruction manual and watched videos but I be made a complete dogs breakfast of the channel set up. Could you possibly do a video on how to set up channels and aux on a model with this radio?
Really confused. Spent a couple of hours trying to get all my channels to work properly.
Thanks
David Hughes
I dont have the PL18 anymore but I have done a glider setup video for it
Thanks Andy,
Will look at it.
Dave
Greetings andrew, just received my radio. I found the rx protocol to be on I-bus. Should it be on ppm? Or leave it on ibus?
Not sure what that actually does. I didn't change it and all receivers worked as expected. PPM is being phased out of flight control boards so I guess just leave it on IBUS
@@AndrewNewton nevermind I had to bind a rx and it showed up. Thank you andrew.
@@Shinobi117 Good to hear it works
Hi Andrew, thank you for the presentation of the FlySKY Paladin PL18 Transmitter.
My qestion is: does this transmitter inform (voice) when the mixer is on ? I mean the setting of active flaps before landing f.ex.
I would like to buy another transmitter with telemetry, good prepared the mixers (flaps with elevator) and voice commands (Spectrum seems to be good but seems to be too expensive for me), and my FUTABA T8FG SUPER is very difficult to operate and doesn't have telemetry.
I use only aircrafts: aerobatic models, warbirds (flaps, landing gear), electro gliders ...
Thank you.
No, you would need an OpenTX or EthOS based radio for extensive telemetry with audio call-outs. eg, FrSKY, Radiomaster
Oh God why Flysky.. This 2.4ghz Modul is absolutely mental
Im thinking about buying this one, but on rc groups i saw people had problems with updating the firmware or installing the flysky assistant program. Did you have such problems too?
I didn't try upgrading because I use Macs and the firmware is windows only. The chap who has this now did have a problem upgrading and I haven't heard if he resolved the issue.
@@AndrewNewton okay, thanks
For over $400au, that's a hard no from me. You lose many (normal) features for more money.... Great review, thank you very much!!!
Do you have a link to the long range antenna?
Not yet.
thanks for the great video... We have about 200 pcs AFHDS 2A receivers in stock, I've read we can use it with the FJR2 + FS-RM003, that's a shame it's not included with the PL18 or built-in... anyway, the question is, the connection of the external module as flysky or any other multi-module will be via PPM or SERIAL? will the range/respond will lack in performance? and how about battery life with the module? thank you
Dont know enough about the module to answer yet sorry.
Andrew Newton ok thanks
Would you like to do a demo on setting up the timer please Andrew? The manual studiously avoids any mention.
I never use them so I'll have to learn first
Hi Andrew, Excellent review! The Paladin PL18 radio can be used in radio controlled airplanes with internal combustion engines of Gasoline??? Have you already tested such a thing? I have planes with 120cc engines that I could use them on, only I'm not sure if it works without problems with engines that use CDI
Yes I think so , but I'm not an IC flier.
Do you have a tutorial on setting up flaps?
Yes, Crow on a glider
can you keep 301 in and put crsf module in with jr adapter on?
No, one module at a time. Not sure if CRSF actually supported
Hey friends, I want to say everyone can use the AFHDS2A receivers with PL18 by using the JR bay adapter FJR2 mentioned in the video.Thank you.
Thanks 👍
Can you tell me how to set up timers on functions such as flap deployment over say 5 seconds?
Yes but you don't have telemetry with the FJR2 module
Is there a larger receiver than that 10ch? Thank you!
Have to check the FlySKY receiver page
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hi Andrew , all of your videos are very good and informatiive , want to buy new radio pls guide me which one you think is good ,
tandem x20 or x20s
fly sky pl 18 , ( in paladin 18 have only one version or any other upgrade version also )
Taranis x9D plus ( some one say that in this have radio wireless headtracking option )
i am only fly gas , nitro and electric plane , no drone flying
as expert pls advise ,
Tandem and Paladin are better quality radios but I prefer the more flexible OpenTX operating system on the Radiomaster TX16S or Taranis radios.
I bought it, because of it's high end level , no function deleted model as low cost models usally do.
How did you get that Maple leaf Antenna!!!!?!!??!!! That's not for sale anywhere
Straight from FlySky for the review. Hopefully available soon.
Hallo! Can anyone comment on the reflections on the screen? Is the screen easy to read in the open air? Thank you.
I haven't found it to be a problem
Oh, I was waiting for this video...
Will you please say something about PL18 vs Radiomaster tx16s ?????
Not really comparable, different classes of radio really. OpenTX vs FlySkyOS
@@AndrewNewton Functionality-wise, how do the two operating systems compare?
What would you say is the best fpv beginner platform? Great video!
@MAD GRUMPYMAN I have flown some planes before and a whoop but never a fpv plane. I can't decide if I should do a wing or like a normal looking plane.
@@LightsCameraandLego if you want a real Tipp I would advise you too get a 1400mm sail plane called the lrp upstream. There's also a 40 dollar clone from it. It's basicly perfect for fpv since it's cheap and you can directly set in a servo plus an fpv camera into the cabin
0:26 I think I know who is he 😁
An Aussie, a Kiwi and a German spring to mind
The o.s in the Paladin is very VERY similar to the FS-i10, setups are sooooo easy with the touchscreen and the build quality of the high end Flysky Tx's is very good.
The biggest problem with the Flysky high end radios is updates, they never come lol.
i highly doubt that more than one firmware update will ever be released for the radio and if its hardware is anything like the i10 which i suspect it probably is due to the O.S, the radio will be running custom flysky marked chips inside and cutome firmware will be impossible (like with the i10) because independent developers wont be able to reverse engineer the hardware to write custom firmware for it which is a real shame.
My i10 feels 10x more rubust than my T16 and TX16s and the pots are much better quality and retractable!
Another thing i prefer about my i10 is the size, its got the standard footprint for a tx but its literally half the thickness of the t16 and holding the T16 feels like holding a brick when your used to the FS-i10 lol
I run external antennas on my i10 and amplify the signal on each antenna to 2w, long range and cloud surfing on 2.4ghz is no problem with my FS-i10 :)
All in all, if not being able to install custom firmware or run OpenTx on the radio is not a concern, the high end flysky radios are very well constructed and i recommend them.
Basically, we publish one new firmware for pl18 1-2 month. And the new firmware is coming soon. The frame is redesigned this time. If you have any good suggestions, please tell us. Thank you.
The operating system looks to be the same as the FlySky Noble.... the 50km range sounds optimistic, Chinese km’s ?
No that'd about the max Lora range a 2.4ghz system can provide
Ha, gotta beware of those marketing specs.
I'm not in the market for a new radio, but I like to see what's new. And I'm always AMAZED (and not in a good way) at what the design peeps come up with.
They start out with the best of intentions, listening to what experienced users and prospective buyers actually want and need... and then they open things up to a focus-group of toddlers.
This looks like a perfect mix of air-punching (YES!) and face-punching (Nooooo!) features.
Designed by committee. It's not my idea of a flagship product. It's mid-way between Faberge and Fisher-Price. Is it a particular cultural phenomenon that makes it seem a good idea to infantilise products in the East? Coloured lights? Garish graphics? Dodgy fonts? Go-faster stripes? Stop it!
It's like those bizarre kitchen-sink T-shirt slogans: 'Always Timing Hero Jet Powerful Cat Zoom!!!'
Er... what?
If you're writing an instruction manual for international consumption, you hire a native speaker of each language to read and edit the appropriate bits to ensure that you don't inadvertently trip over an idiom and start a war. Common sense.
Well, designing products for international consumption should work the same way. Get some opinions from people you trust and respect and modify things accordingly. You know - just like they did before launching the Ford Fanny Face Edsel -
Oops.
Anyhooo, the thing about China is: it's inconceivably vast. No doubt FlySky can get by selling hundreds of millions of its splendid Always Timing Hero Jet Powerful Cat Zoom!!! radios to its local market , but if it wants to sell internationally, it needs to dump those teenaged focus-groups.
A ruined reputation can take a long, long time to heal.
I know mine will (sob, sniff).
I sometimes beg to differ with Elli P's rants - but this one hits the nail right on the head. After years of success with their Model T radio FlySky have crapped out an Edsel!
What is the range of this transmitter?
From memory it's more than 2km as is, or 30km+ with the long range module. Have a look at the FlySKY site
is this compatible with Express LRS
Dont know sorry
@@AndrewNewton Yes it is I searched on the internet. it supports CRSF protocol.
Hmmm, my nearly five year old Graupner has a very good colour touch screen and you can turn the RF on or off so that's nothing new, and 2km range is plenty for me. Even my very cheap (£130) Radiolink has a colour screen, basic telemetry, amazing latency and more than 2km range if I needed it. (I only fly line of sight anyway) I'm sure all the latest high tech radios are very good but I'll stay where I am for now and who the heck needs 50km range anyway?
Yes, long range is just a number on the screen. No fun in it.
@bonafidepirate & @Andrew Newton - or anyone... - HELP HELP...I just received my Paladin PL18 from HobbyKing...Going through configuration and found that for some reason No Stick movement...I go to Calibration and moving the sticks they don't respond. I did update Firmware pretty much off the bat...
Not sure that would be the issue...?!?!
Any thoughts? All other switches and dials seem to work fine...
ALSO just realised I think it may have happened after Firmware update - but need a confirmation - when I first turned on after unboxing it gave the normal "Move throttle before starting" message, and I am fairly sure moving the throttle worked then. But not when turning on it shows the Throttle Dead centre and does not respond even at that point...
Not sure if this was really the solution at all...But it worked - I pulled the unit apart, wondering if maybe the Pot cabling was disconnected...
Couldn't see anything obvious, but disconnected the Cables, reconnected and re-assembled - Now sticks are working again. Hopefully not just a temporary measure, any feedback on this would be appreciated.
Also found an annoyance, I found the 1.0.30 Firmware, but you can't DOWNGRADE firmware to a previous version :(
That's the first thing I thought of, but I haven't taken the back off yet. Very glad you worked it out.
@@AndrewNewton So far so good - hooked up the FrT16 receiver with an Arduino and running vJoy to basically have a Super expensive Controller for X-Plane and FSX! haha - OK it's only until I recieve the F765 some time next week...Would be great if I could find my old copy of Realflight...or that the current version wasn't so Darned expensive!
It is amazing how much better the transmitter works as a Joystick in those apps over a Proper Joystick (of which I have a decent Thrustmaster.)
Soooo. All of the afhds and afhds2 receivers I have. Can Not be used with this radio?
Welp. No go for Me.
I own too many planes to have to replace that many RX's
Need external modules for those receivers
@@AndrewNewton I know. But Flysky should have incorporated that into the TX. It really kills it for me to have to buy an external module that needs swapped out
Very nice but at a cost of course that removes it from the bargain category of the FS-i6 (which for me is only let down by lack of mixes. Shame none of the firmware upgrades added more)
A 6 position rotary switch would have been useful instead of all those pots.
And that colour changing thing ? What was the designer smoking that day. Can you seriously not turn it off ?
Um the 10 channel mod adds 2 mixers so you have 5 then
Hey I'm #1 Again... LOL
Doesn't have a standard JR Bay..?...Mistake, right there...People have TX Modules, it's a fact.
yeah its weird. I just bought one and had to buy the adapter bay. At least it was really cheap. There are several things I would liked differently but considering how cheap it is I'm willing to over look them. Also most of the things are fixable buy just buying a cheap accessory.
@@JessHull Yes, the JR Bay Adaptor, it's a solution, but it must stick out quite a bit...Shame, it looks nicely put together TBH.
Internal module plus JR bay, more models, SD card, swappable battery and it would be a killer
@@JessHull There is a promote event of pl18 now: buy pl18 also get wireless charger and FJR2 jrbay adapter。 check this ：www.banggood.com/Summer-Prime-Sale-Flysky-FS-PL18-Paladin-2_4G-18CH-Radio-Transmitter-with-FS-FTr10-Receiver+FlySky-FJR2-Standard-Interface-JR-Module-Adapter+FlySky-FS-PL18-Paladin-Transmitter-Wireless-Charger-p-1708384.html?rmmds=search&p=X0110142748584201912&custlinkid=723808&cur_warehouse=CN
Download from updates from Flysky, not Frsky( at end)
Oh thanks. I knew would mix them up at some stage
@@AndrewNewton easily done. You were so close to making it all the way through. I always mix them up in my head. Looks like interesting product. I have the old one, after changing to Frsky, and it has never failed
Instructions for installing Boeing aircraft
It's not OpenTX do it's dead to me. 😁
It looks very good for under 300 usd, but the none replaceable battery is a big deal. If cared for the electronics would be good for decades, but the battery would last 3-5 years.
When it comes to high end stuff the business people of the company should be kept out of the boardroom, coz you don't wana compromise the product with their idiotic ideas.
I guess it's easy enough to change battery once it starts to lose capacity. Just a few screws.
Yes of course soldering a couple of wires. What I said was more of a general comment.
TO dear and no sd card.
Black tape over the light. Be grand.
Done, and all sounds turned off