For what it's worth Ray won the Ft.Worth-Pro-AM so many consecutive years that it was known as the Ray McCallum-Pro-Am in Texas! The ability to merge the technique of Point fighting with the Power of Full-Contact was his key to great success and left a lot of tough fighters struggling to figure it out.You will not find a more analytical and strategic fighter.
I was videoing one of Raymond's fights in Houston at the AIKIA National's years back just to be able to study his moves and Joe Lewis asked why I was filming Raymond, he said Raymond was slow for middle weight. I was thinking slow, Raymond isn't slow. This is just another vid to show just how fast he was. Man that guy could fight. Great clip between to great fighters thanks for posting. And I agree with boxing404 nothing close to this today.
The good ole days. McCallum was great, a colorful character, and he inspired me a lot. Always riding his motorcyle to tournaments. I remember him being a good referee as well, he got me for excessive contact as a green belt once :-)
I was there. Each of these gents were at the top of the game as it was being played then. The wily winsome "Scorp" was one of a dozen people out there who on the right day could have whipped Ray. It was Ray's day and Scorp, as I remember, was gracious and game.
I remember using those boots when I was like 14 years old they made every surface feel like you were on an ice skating rink Good Job Ray Sincerely Rick McCallum
I made Black Belt in Sept 74, at 16y/o started winning tournaments right away but also started fighting full contact also. My1st pro fight was a NKL event Dallas Texans vs LAStars Dec '74. I won that 1st fight but lost my next 4 & 3 of those by TKO. I was seriously questioning if this new full was what I really wanted to be doing,but after I matured a little fought some people like H.Jackson 1976, G.Igari Toyko'79, Wallace in 1980, B.Cikatic1981 Ended with a record of 31-13-2, 20KOs ~RMcC~
@boxing404 Raymond McCallum created some of the highlights of Sport Karate in the 70s and 80s such as his destruction of Gene McComb and gave Bill Wallace one of his toughest throw downs.
I agree the calling your own point drives me crazy as well, but I think that its hard not to sometimes in the heat of the fight. I usually just let the calls go as they go but even though I felt I controlled this fight from the first, between Scorpion timing, & getting behind in the points its hard not to raise your hands after a good technique. I feel thats alot different than after every clash when you are actually trying to influence the judges.
Sorry I could go on about the calling your own point deal but. I actually just forgot to sign the previous reply to this comment/ This is Raymond McCallum.
@stevevandien i love pointfighting it's beautifull.but i also boxed and kickboxed and it's so much more difficult.it's not pretty but its so much more real than a point fight.i got hurt so much more in full contact,it wasno joke.of course point fighting was more fun and exciting but full contact was the real deal.mccallum was considered the toughest guy in point fighting,in kickboxing he got knocked out about 10 timespoint fighting is fun but not the best way to really test your skills..
@boxing404 cCallum fought full contact at 16-17 against guys 25 and 30 and lost several of his early fights. When he was in the zone he was a force on the mat or in the ring. The only times he was stopped later in his career was when he was not prepared for a fight and that was against dangerous fighters usually world class or champions.
Pat Kelly, this was before video games, cell phones and the savaging of American society. With the right device you could time travel back to where each of these unpaid combatants would have kicked Conor's butt in this kind of contest or you could fast forward to the so called "art" of our time, where MMA guys master 8 jujitsu moves and train only to shorten an opponent's lifespan one elbow at a time. The current world of MMA is peopled by the thugs these old guys originally trained to defend themselves against.
@stevevandien i dont think its the karate technique that kills it,it's the stopping and starting.i have seen some very exciting fights in point karate but i think the stopping and starting takes something away from it.when i was a kid in the early 80's i used to train in a traditional tae kwon do school and all the fighting was continuous.we did alot of judo and kickboxing in the school.the sparing was full contact.my instructor was old school from the 60's,no nonsense ex marine.next page pls.
Hard fighting indeed, but wild! I heard about Ray, but the man is wild and not very polished. Maybe a "good ole boy" by the way he is hooping it up. From Texas that is what you got back then.
@TEXASFENDERBENDER you preaching to the choir.IM his biggest fan.I was just making a point about pointfighting not ray mccallum.he was a great fighter.
TKD matches were a lot more exciting back then compared to the garbage you see now. Don't believe me? Check out the Olympic TKD Gold Medal match. Total yawnfest.
For what it's worth Ray won the Ft.Worth-Pro-AM so many consecutive years that it was known as the Ray McCallum-Pro-Am in Texas! The ability to merge the technique of Point fighting with the Power of Full-Contact was his key to great success and left a lot of tough fighters struggling to figure it out.You will not find a more analytical and strategic fighter.
He beat a legendary fighter there! And made it look easy
I was videoing one of Raymond's fights in Houston at the AIKIA National's years back just to be able to study his moves and Joe Lewis asked why I was filming Raymond, he said Raymond was slow for middle weight. I was thinking slow, Raymond isn't slow. This is just another vid to show just how fast he was. Man that guy could fight. Great clip between to great fighters thanks for posting. And I agree with boxing404 nothing close to this today.
McCallum maybe in his prime around this year, lightning fast and exciting fighter, dominated the Texas Karate circuit in late 70's early 80's.
McCallum was one of my all time heroes. In my opinion one of the best ever. Love to see him fight, glad we never crossed paths.
The good ole days. McCallum was great, a colorful character, and he inspired me a lot. Always riding his motorcyle to tournaments. I remember him being a good referee as well, he got me for excessive contact as a green belt once :-)
My god, Raymond's agility was out of this world!
I was there. Each of these gents were at the top of the game as it was being played then. The wily winsome "Scorp" was one of a dozen people out there who on the right day could have whipped Ray. It was Ray's day and Scorp, as I remember, was gracious and game.
I remember using those boots when I was like 14 years old they made every surface feel like you were on an ice skating rink
Good Job Ray
Sincerely
Rick McCallum
Classic martial arts tournament from long ago
great fight great fighters.i dont see anything close to this today.i want to c mccallum vs nasty and mccallum vs vitali.
I made Black Belt in Sept 74, at 16y/o started winning tournaments right away but also started fighting full contact also. My1st pro fight was a NKL event Dallas Texans vs LAStars Dec '74. I won that 1st fight but lost my next 4 & 3 of those by TKO. I was seriously questioning if this new full was what I really wanted to be doing,but after I matured a little fought some people like H.Jackson 1976, G.Igari Toyko'79, Wallace in 1980, B.Cikatic1981 Ended with a record of 31-13-2, 20KOs
~RMcC~
Hey Kerry Brown here.
Thanks for the clarification MR. MC when are you going to upload some of your fights?
Met him a couple of times about 8 years ago, still pretty flexible from what I remember, but DANG! Boy was good!
@boxing404
Raymond McCallum created some of the highlights of Sport Karate in the 70s and 80s such as his destruction of Gene McComb and gave Bill Wallace one of his toughest throw downs.
The man was amazing.
I agree the calling your own point drives me crazy as well, but I think that its hard not to sometimes in the heat of the fight. I usually just let the calls go as they go but even though I felt I controlled this fight from the first, between Scorpion timing, & getting behind in the points its hard not to raise your hands after a good technique. I feel thats alot different than after every clash when you are actually trying to influence the judges.
@achancolon what's up bro.preaching the gospel of karate the way we learned karate in the 70's and 80's anthony.
fantastic!!!
Sorry I could go on about the calling your own point deal but. I actually just forgot to sign the previous reply to this comment/ This is Raymond McCallum.
Super impressive
very technical point fight.
I fought Ray in 1980 in dfw ...3 to 0
I had 0 😱 😆
@stevevandien i love pointfighting it's beautifull.but i also boxed and kickboxed and it's so much more difficult.it's not pretty but its so much more real than a point fight.i got hurt so much more in full contact,it wasno joke.of course point fighting was more fun and exciting but full contact was the real deal.mccallum was considered the toughest guy in point fighting,in kickboxing he got knocked out about 10 timespoint fighting is fun but not the best way to really test your skills..
Damn good
@boxing404
cCallum fought full contact at 16-17 against guys 25 and 30 and lost several of his early fights.
When he was in the zone he was a force on the mat or in the ring.
The only times he was stopped later in his career was when he was not prepared for a fight and that was against dangerous fighters usually world class or champions.
Looks more like a hard game of tag by today's MMA standards.
you dont know shit about fighting. ill play tag with you
Pat Kelly, this was before video games, cell phones and the savaging of American society. With the right device you could time travel back to where each of these unpaid combatants would have kicked Conor's butt in this kind of contest or you could fast forward to the so called "art" of our time, where MMA guys master 8 jujitsu moves and train only to shorten an opponent's lifespan one elbow at a time. The current world of MMA is peopled by the thugs these old guys originally trained to defend themselves against.
@stevevandien i dont think its the karate technique that kills it,it's the stopping and starting.i have seen some very exciting fights in point karate but i think the stopping and starting takes something away from it.when i was a kid in the early 80's i used to train in a traditional tae kwon do school and all the fighting was continuous.we did alot of judo and kickboxing in the school.the sparing was full contact.my instructor was old school from the 60's,no nonsense ex marine.next page pls.
Hard fighting indeed, but wild! I heard about Ray, but the man is wild and not very polished. Maybe a "good ole boy" by the way he is hooping it up. From Texas that is what you got back then.
great point fight
wow
@TEXASFENDERBENDER you preaching to the choir.IM his biggest fan.I was just making a point about pointfighting not ray mccallum.he was a great fighter.
Pretty much the style grillo was working towards. Excepte rays kicking ability is better. Grillo punched better
Evolution. How it began?
Where it went.
And how it is now
Also the sport is affected by society’s norms. Hence pc is the keyword
Evolution.
TKD matches were a lot more exciting back then compared to the garbage you see now. Don't believe me? Check out the Olympic TKD Gold Medal match. Total yawnfest.
ルールがよく解らない
LOL the refs gi...