Thanks George. I saw your PWM on one of your latest videos. I figured you had produced a video for building one. I built one of your PID controllers which works great and had to have one of these as well. Thanks for all you do and keep up the good work.
Worked GREAT! I built your PID and was not really happy but used the PID for temperature and PWM for control. Love it ! I do like LPG best but heated the whole room, but the 5,000watt/220volt heating element only heats the pot(for the most part). I did upgraded to WPM 50 amp/10,000watt unit. With the 5,000watt heating element ,it ran at 20.5-22 amps , so it best to upgrade if you running the large 220volt elements. Again Thanks
Food for thought. Wired up a PWM and used my PID for temperature monitor. Switched it to cooling mode, hooked up my water pump to it. Working great so far. Just my 2 cents.
Hi George. I've been attempting to build one of these but in a 240v version but finding a regulator and potentiometer in one unit has been difficult. I'm on a 3 wire setup (white, black, and green) and instead I'm using a SSVR relay and separate potentiometer. I want to add a main power switch but unsure of where to wire it in; before or after the relay? I have a SSVR relay, potentiometer, volt/Amp meter, fan and outlet in the process. What would you suggest?
Hello George I would like to know if you could take the pwn and reverse the fan to suck out the Heat this way cools the whole box inside at the same time is that possible thank you Mike
I’ve searched high and low for this PWM. I cannot get the 20A one with a fan. I can only find a 50a one with no fan. Will the 12v power supply and fan you use for the PID build cool this PWM sufficiently when it is mounted in such a way that it blows across the PWM?
George, not sure where to add this request, but would this PWM work using solenoids to control the flow of water through the Dephlag or is there a better controller for that use? my unit is quite high up and I would rather control the flow in my power box.
The PWM could be used to control the water pump but not a solenoid. The PID can control solenoids and would be a good addition to your set up. You could set the PID to operate your water flow through the dephlag. George
George, I'd appreciate it if you could provide a parts list for doing this same thing with 220/230. I've looked around the homedistiller forum, and there's so many individual projects there I just get confused. I have an extra 220v outlet in my basement for a stove, and another right under the electrical panel in my garage. Previous owner had an RV or a welder or something I guess. The receptacles are bigger and a different shape, the power cord would be much larger, etc. I just need a list of parts that would work together, preferably from someone who has done a number of these boxes like you have. My kettle is 13.7gal, I'd like to run it off one 4500-5000w element, and I know from an electric smoker build that the regular 15amp breakers/110v service in my house is not sufficient.
Can I connect 2 PWM controls to one element? Each PWM is rated to 2000w (50-220V and 25A) and I want to get 4000w for a 5500w heating element. I have a 220v L6-30 socket at home
I asked this question before and got no answer, a pulse width modulator I'm guessing, is the same as Silicone controled rectifier, the unit I have has two buttons, one button turns the power up and the other button turns the power down ( +or - 0 to 100 % power) and it has two power wires in and two power wires out just like your PWM, can I run the two power out wires to a PID controler, in this configureation I want to cuntroll the power going into the SSR with the SCR so I essentially control how much power goes into the heating element and at the same time controll the temp with the PID. Will this work or will I have problems? AM I telling this right?
dang George , i love this stuff. im simple as a creek minnow and i do believe i can do this. if i just knew where to get the stuff. can you help with where and how to get this stuff.. thank ya brother .
Everything I used is available on Ebay or Amazon. here are some links to some of the items: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZYMXWZB/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OZ4UWGY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DVH64HW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Hope this helps George
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing Thank you for the quick answer. Is the 2000w more optimal for smaller boiler, or would it heat well with something like a 10-20 gal boiler?
Be careful with superglue and electronics. I once designed and built a piece of test equipment for a man that fancied himself an engineer. My product worked very well until he superglued all the ICs into the sockets. Cyanoacrylates creep with moisture, and my test box was converted to a very expensive paperweight. Superglue is volatile and can migrate throughout a container. Cyanoacrylates have a surprising application.. They are better than stitches for closing a wound caused by a sharp implement. Superglue can bind the edges of a wound together better than stitches and is commonly used in dental surgery.
Jim, The use of super glue is only to secure the frames if they need a little help. I would not recommend anyone use super glue as an electrical contact adhesive. If someone cuts just a little too much out and the frame fits but is relatively loose, a little drop of super glue can help secure it in place. George
Question relative the math. I have a Brew Haus 1500 watt element running on a 120volt setup. What should the max Amps through the PWC for the element. Google says 12.5 but I am maxed out at 11.8 and 115 volts according to the display. Is that "close enough" and just a product of the way we are measuring the Amps using the doughnut? Thanks sir!
You’re awesome old man I wish I had your parents growing up they taught you well.
Great video. Thank you for sharing.
Works great George. Thanks
This is my next project but mine will be 240v ordering the pieces on ebay now. A Big THANK YOU George
Thank You George! I built one today and it works great!!!!
Nice work!
GREAT STUFF LOVE YOUR VIDEOS.
Nicely done George!!! Happy Distil'n!!!!! ( I think that fitting for your power cord is called an SO compression fitting)
Thank you, George!!
Thanks George. I saw your PWM on one of your latest videos. I figured you had produced a video for building one. I built one of your PID controllers which works great and had to have one of these as well. Thanks for all you do and keep up the good work.
Thanks George! Just finished building a PWM to use with my alembic topped Turbo 500. Have a friend brewing a batch of Mango wine to test it out.
Worked GREAT! I built your PID and was not really happy but used the PID for temperature and PWM for control. Love it ! I do like LPG best but heated the whole room, but the 5,000watt/220volt heating element only heats the pot(for the most part). I did upgraded to WPM 50 amp/10,000watt unit. With the 5,000watt heating element ,it ran at 20.5-22 amps , so it best to upgrade if you running the large 220volt elements. Again Thanks
awesome
George
Doesn't the PID hold the temperature you set automatically?
God's speed, George. You have given us some great information.
Thanks Jim. I am setting up the vacuum distilling series. Should have the first theory video ready in a week or so.
George
You are breaking new ground with vacuum distillation. I will be very interested to see what you find. Thank you kind sir.
This is interesting. Makes me think about putting a PID and PWM into one box for a dual element boiler.
Food for thought. Wired up a PWM and used my PID for temperature monitor. Switched it to cooling mode, hooked up my water pump to it. Working great so far. Just my 2 cents.
Great bit of info here. Maybe others will try this.
George
I think you have something here. I’m certain there is a way to program it to use it with a reflux column to get the perfect amount of reflux action
Again love the way you educate. Where did you find those square black 20amp outlets?
All Electronics
www.allelectronics.com/?page=cart
George
Hi George. I've been attempting to build one of these but in a 240v version but finding a regulator and potentiometer in one unit has been difficult. I'm on a 3 wire setup (white, black, and green) and instead I'm using a SSVR relay and separate potentiometer. I want to add a main power switch but unsure of where to wire it in; before or after the relay? I have a SSVR relay, potentiometer, volt/Amp meter, fan and outlet in the process. What would you suggest?
Hi George, love all your videos btw, my only question is, is the PWM the same as an SCR and can i use an SCR in the same way with the multimeter? Thx
Yes
@ 5:40 it is called an electrical gland fitting. No to superglue... yes to hot melt glue (hot snot) or silicone caulk. And thank you for your videos!
Thanks a million. I sometimes get lost and lose words.
George
How would you build one of these for a 240 volt system using a pump also?
Hey George,
How are you popping the knob off the modulator before mounting in the box?
Mine seems pretty snug and I don't want to break it.
D.
Hello George I would like to know if you could take the pwn and reverse the fan to suck out the Heat this way cools the whole box inside at the same time is that possible thank you Mike
Great video. I'm guessing you will need 2 PWM if you are running 2 outlets( at 240v) for 2 heating elements?
It all depends on your set up. You can run 2 elements with one PWM.
George
I’ve searched high and low for this PWM. I cannot get the 20A one with a fan. I can only find a 50a one with no fan. Will the 12v power supply and fan you use for the PID build cool this PWM sufficiently when it is mounted in such a way that it blows across the PWM?
George, not sure where to add this request, but would this PWM work using solenoids to control the flow of water through the Dephlag or is there a better controller for that use? my unit is quite high up and I would rather control the flow in my power box.
The PWM could be used to control the water pump but not a solenoid. The PID can control solenoids and would be a good addition to your set up. You could set the PID to operate your water flow through the dephlag.
George
George, I'd appreciate it if you could provide a parts list for doing this same thing with 220/230. I've looked around the homedistiller forum, and there's so many individual projects there I just get confused. I have an extra 220v outlet in my basement for a stove, and another right under the electrical panel in my garage. Previous owner had an RV or a welder or something I guess. The receptacles are bigger and a different shape, the power cord would be much larger, etc. I just need a list of parts that would work together, preferably from someone who has done a number of these boxes like you have. My kettle is 13.7gal, I'd like to run it off one 4500-5000w element, and I know from an electric smoker build that the regular 15amp breakers/110v service in my house is not sufficient.
Parts are all the same. The only difference is the wiring for a 240 V receptacle.
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing Thank you!
What is the difference between using a pwm vs a ssvr to control a heating element
George do you have a video for wiring this in 220v. I've looked and can't find one? Or can you explain the difference?
So if I want to do this in 220 I would just have to get a 220 scr and a 220 outlet correct?
Can I use a 110 to 220 step up/down with this to run 5000w heating element
Can I connect 2 PWM controls to one element?
Each PWM is rated to 2000w (50-220V and 25A) and I want to get 4000w for a 5500w heating element. I have a 220v L6-30 socket at home
For future reference and for ordering ease the Dumma Hidgy Cable Penetration is called a Cable Gland.
Thanks
If I purchased everything I needed for a 5500 watt heating element would the wiring diagram be the same with just bigger wire and higher amp pwm?
Yes
Will these be carried in the store like the PID box?
Yes,
I believe Ray should have them advertised this week or next.
George
Hello George need to ask you a question can you use a dimmer switch instead of a pwm mike
A dimmer switch will not be able to handle the amperage load and will fry.
could you please share link for the PWM and Amp meter ?
FYI 5:41 George it's called a CGB.
I asked this question before and got no answer, a pulse width modulator I'm guessing, is the same as Silicone controled rectifier, the unit I have has two buttons, one button turns the power up and the other button turns the power down ( +or - 0 to 100 % power) and it has two power wires in and two power wires out just like your PWM, can I run the two power out wires to a PID controler, in this configureation I want to cuntroll the power going into the SSR with the SCR so I essentially control how much power goes into the heating element and at the same time controll the temp with the PID. Will this work or will I have problems? AM I telling this right?
In my opinion you would be working against yourself trying to use a PWM in line with a PID.
George
dang George , i love this stuff. im simple as a creek minnow and i do believe i can do this. if i just knew where to get the stuff. can you help with where and how to get this stuff.. thank ya brother .
Everything I used is available on Ebay or Amazon.
here are some links to some of the items:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZYMXWZB/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OZ4UWGY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DVH64HW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Hope this helps
George
why does it stay on even after it’s all the way down it only stops after it’s unplugged
What size heating element would be good for this build?
A 2000W element is perfect
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing Thank you for the quick answer. Is the 2000w more optimal for smaller boiler, or would it heat well with something like a 10-20 gal boiler?
As the boiler gets bigger the element should also get bigger. For a 10-12 gallon boiler I would recommend 3500-4500 watt element on 240 Volts.
How do you tell your temp by running this
With a thermometer in the still.
George - what is the part # of the amp & voltmeter module?
The item ID # on EBay: 112889540910
Thanks.
I have 220 power already is there a 220 multi metre
All multimeters read 120 or 240 and even higher.
George
Somebody please tell me what the donut is called? And if a need it or not. My ammeter didn't come with one.
If you didn't get one then it is more than likely a DC meter or a low amp meter that needs to be wired directly.
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing ok. But I would still like to know what that donuts called. I can see using one in the future.
Be careful with superglue and electronics. I once designed and built a piece of test equipment for a man that fancied himself an engineer. My product worked very well until he superglued all the ICs into the sockets. Cyanoacrylates creep with moisture, and my test box was converted to a very expensive paperweight. Superglue is volatile and can migrate throughout a container.
Cyanoacrylates have a surprising application.. They are better than stitches for closing a wound caused by a sharp implement. Superglue can bind the edges of a wound together better than stitches and is commonly used in dental surgery.
Jim,
The use of super glue is only to secure the frames if they need a little help. I would not recommend anyone use super glue as an electrical contact adhesive.
If someone cuts just a little too much out and the frame fits but is relatively loose, a little drop of super glue can help secure it in place.
George
Heh.. The Black Plastic thingy..after much research is a "Cord Grip".
..heh or a "Cable Gland" "or Cord protector.." or "Black thingy.."
LOL. I was dumbfounded when I tried to give it a name. Just doesn't run off the lips so easily.
Thanks a bunch
George
Question relative the math. I have a Brew Haus 1500 watt element running on a 120volt setup. What should the max Amps through the PWC for the element. Google says 12.5 but I am maxed out at 11.8 and 115 volts according to the display. Is that "close enough" and just a product of the way we are measuring the Amps using the doughnut? Thanks sir!
You are close enough. 1500 watts divided by 120 volts equals 12.5 amps. At 115 volts the max is 13.04 amps. You are doing well.
George
ohms law 101.
Exactly
been in the HVAC field for over 50yrs... been distilling for 2.