Hello everyone! Edit: For the Mono Shock teams you can use Yanagi Rina and Seth and that would be pretty good. I just used Grace as an example It doesn't mean it's a good comp nor it's not playable. Edit PT2: After the changes the PEN P5 is not worth using, and I made a very big mistake on this video please wait till the new one get's released. I'm trying to build the community on my discord and I'd love for everyone to join and create a nice community. Discord: discord.gg/5W2SHADMy8 Business Email: Flammaoftheglads@gmail.com See you soon!
To clarify @1:29 That was the comparison between mono electro with rina, grace, yanagi vs burnice, rina, yanagi? But I only see the combined damage though?? And why did it say burnice in the sheet and not Grace???
@@FlammaTheGlad ohh ok thanks for the clarification, i was just confused because u said it was grace yanagi team but the sheet showed burnice team, i appreciate ur early TCs man, I really wanted to know if mono electro was viable, it seems it is viable but there's still quite a gap between mono electro and burnice yanagi teams.
I think some people also may have missed that polarity disorder being 25% of normal disorder is in reality 100% since her for passive 400% disorder buff will be active every time she uses EX special. That’s pretty damn cool. Also if she’s using a disorder team, then she could ex special a burned enemy for example, which will deal 100% disorder plus 17% of her AP, the burn status will remain, and then she can trigger normal disorder by applying shock which will do the actual 400%. That means her disorder will in total deal 500% plus 17% of her AP which makes up for them reducing the core passive from 600% to 400%.
Hi ! thank you for your work :) do you think Yanagi/Piper and Rina would make a good alternative instead of Yanagi/Piper/Rina? Or would the place that Piper will take on the field be disadvantageous for Yanagi?
What disk drives are we thinking will work best for Yanagi? It'd be good to get a start farming rn if you can with the double drop days from disk events
thanks for the tips, I wonder if Burnice is also good with PEN%, because I kinda of got a looot of PEN substats in her set...and I don't understand how the flat PEN works.
Should I pull for Bernice to go with Yanagi? I’m looking forward to miyabi but I’m new to the game and pulled only for Caesar I have 17000 pulli and 25 PT on Bernice Bonner
How would you modify Grace/Rina/Anton? I have Anton with Drill Rig, Rina with slice of time and Grace with Fusion core, is Yanagi a better Grace to funnel shocks for Anton Shock rebouts? I mean in a fashion to balance Anton as burst and Yanagi as sub-dps. Or is my bro destined to switch teams? I am scrapping S ranks on unshilled Shiyu (not weak to Electro) by the skin of the teeth this patch thanks to Anton being the only capable of assist parrying (and well the Jane clone looks designed to counter Grace lmao)
Yanagi wants to stay on field and so does Anton. So I wouldn't put them in the same team personally. Yanagi isn't really made for Monoshock although it'll be functional, but using grace instead is better.
@@Bassman0721I don’t have any information on the unit yet, and sadly without numbers I cannot tell you if a unit is going to be good better or worst than any other unit
This channel is really Underrated in ZZZ space. You are the only guy i find, who put up Calcs to backup the claim. Other people just read the kit, use ai voice and bye
I’m glad you like the video and glad you like my content, even though it’s short I just try my best not to bore people with reading and just explain what the essential parts of the changes are.
Did you test with m0 or m1 Rina? I was think about making a Yanagi/Burnice/Rina team and sending Caesar to a Jane/Caesar/Lucy team (I'm still a bit fire heavy but well, I started with Jane, so nothing I can do). I like the numbers for the team I'm planning, but I can't remember if your test was done with m0 or m1 Rina, because for now I only have m0. Also what about Yanagi/Burnice/Soukaku? Would an AP/AM Soukaku be worth it?
Majority of the tests I do don't involve M's. At least at the start of the game where everyone is lacking agents and or haven't pulled enough to get Rina M1 As for the Yanagi Burnice and Soukaku, you'll be pretty much in a great spot.
i feel like DISORDER as a whole is too complicated for my F2P ass so i decided long ago to just make a JANE HYPER team i use her vs ALL ELEMENTS except of coarse phys RES i think if some limited can powercreep/replace Sett (probably the idol support i hope) then atleast my 1st team is set i have Ellen too but i just prio Jane more
Most probably in the future we will have more Jane supports aside from Seth only, and a very nice choice as well since having an Anomaly build up units are genuinely great in these scenarios where you feel like the game is lacking supports.
i'd be very interested in seeing the calcs on a yanagi/rina/burnice team. seems like combining the best of both teams. or yanagi/lucy/burnice. caesar seems much better for a hypercarry like jane or ellen
This depends on your playstyle, but since Yanagi’s anomaly application is nerfed as well Seth can fit really well. However if you want higher damage numbers and have a team that’s ahead then I’d suggest going with Rina. Even if you don’t have her W-Engine, the damage Yanagi will gain is quite significant.
@@FlammaTheGlad Is worth spend the resources to buy Rina's weapon on the store? I already have sufficient amount to get Yanagi M0 and her w-engine. Current, I've Burnice M0 and RIna M1. I'm focus to have a solid team now.
I still used chaos jazz in the calculations since Yanagi’s damage was high, but people brought it to my attention that you can use 4P Freedom Blues as well and it was on my mind but Yanagi benefits well with the 4P effect at least
I'm a low spend player (IK membership) and the only S-rankers I have are Caesar, Lychon and Rina (lost the 50-50 on Caesar). This is because I started playing the game during Caesar's banner. The rest are A-rankers that everyone has. My main team is Caesar-Lucy-Piper and I was hoping to make a second team around either Burnice or Yanagi so that I can finally challenge Shiyu. How does Yanagi look without Burnice? Is it possible to make a Shiyu team around Yanagi + 2 A-rankers? If yes, then any suggestions?
It is possible to go with 2 A ranks. The teams you can go with are going to be Yanagi Seth and Soukaku. And since you have Rina already that pretty much helps you out with your team building. You can switch out Seth for Rina or Soukaku for Rina (Depending on what exactly you feel like playing) just keep in mind that you'll need to trigger EX Special with your Yanagi majority of the time if you're going to play without burnice. You can also play Yanagi Caesar Rina, with Caesar building with as much AP on her substats and on the 6th piece being Impact, that way you can assure yourself a good shield. But Yangi Seth Soukaku can function really well since Soukaku can provide you 1k attack buff and Seth provides you faster Anomaly application. And incase you plan on using Rina with her she can get you great results if you build your Yanagi with PEN Ratio Piece 5 Disc Drive Hope this comment helps!
I lost Burnice for Grace and got rina in standart banner, so I think I'll use Yanagi rina and Grace until I get Burnice or another off-field anomaly, i hope this team works well, or maybe i use yanagi jane and rina, idk yet
Most likely you’d favor Yanagi Rina Seth! Seth with 4P freedom blues and Rina with Swing jazz can help your Yanagi dish a lot of damage and at the same time help with her anomaly application as well
@@francisconunez6969 of course her w-engine is a big boost of damage compared to all options that are available for her. But you can use Fusion Compiler, weeping Gemini, and Electro Lip gloss and rainforest gorment.
It can work, If you plan on using the new set with Yanagi and switch her out for 7 seconds while Piper applies Physical Anomaly, you can trigger a disorder that can function really well. And with Caesars buff (1k attack + 25% bonus damage on enemies that are marked) you can gain good results with Piper and Caesar especially with the new changes. Hope this helps!
I wouldn't say it's necessary since burnice can thrive in other teams and deal damage without triggering disorders. You don't need Yanagi for Burnice but you need Burnice for Yanagi.
@@joaquinchua3348 again, the team is functional, it doesn’t mean you can’t use it it’s just an example I provided since many people asked me about it, mono shock is possible to use
She isn't powercrept, she still gives the best results so far compared to many other units we have currently since we lack Anomaly off field-ish characters. Burnice is the only unit that fits that role so far
Im super unlucky in this game. I keep losing 50/50 but now I am guaranteed, I can choose her or the only limited 5 star husbando but I need more dps 🥹 Can u help me? All I have is rina, grace, than fire stunner girl from standard banner and jane
Prioritize building two teams and aim to clear Shiyu defense. check if you can build a team around Lighter. While I lost 50-50 also, I'm thinking of getting either Miyabi or Harumasa (next limited male banner that's likely an electric dps).
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Hello everyone!
Edit: For the Mono Shock teams you can use Yanagi Rina and Seth and that would be pretty good. I just used Grace as an example It doesn't mean it's a good comp nor it's not playable.
Edit PT2: After the changes the PEN P5 is not worth using, and I made a very big mistake on this video please wait till the new one get's released.
I'm trying to build the community on my discord and I'd love for everyone to join and create a nice community.
Discord: discord.gg/5W2SHADMy8
Business Email: Flammaoftheglads@gmail.com
See you soon!
@@FlammaTheGlad Seth was definitely on my mind especially for the 100 AP and the comfort of the shield
To clarify @1:29 That was the comparison between mono electro with rina, grace, yanagi vs burnice, rina, yanagi? But I only see the combined damage though?? And why did it say burnice in the sheet and not Grace???
@@joaquinchua3348 an error on my end, my apologies.
@@joaquinchua3348 after checking the names didn’t change on the sheet but the calculations are based on grace and not Burnice.
@@FlammaTheGlad ohh ok thanks for the clarification, i was just confused because u said it was grace yanagi team but the sheet showed burnice team, i appreciate ur early TCs man, I really wanted to know if mono electro was viable, it seems it is viable but there's still quite a gap between mono electro and burnice yanagi teams.
I think some people also may have missed that polarity disorder being 25% of normal disorder is in reality 100% since her for passive 400% disorder buff will be active every time she uses EX special. That’s pretty damn cool. Also if she’s using a disorder team, then she could ex special a burned enemy for example, which will deal 100% disorder plus 17% of her AP, the burn status will remain, and then she can trigger normal disorder by applying shock which will do the actual 400%. That means her disorder will in total deal 500% plus 17% of her AP which makes up for them reducing the core passive from 600% to 400%.
Correct
That’s something I’ve already took on consideration on my calculations but I’ll make sure to say it in the video next time.
@@FlammaTheGlad I figured you did. Great video! I’m saving everything I have to guarantee Yanagi! Can’t wait!
Do we even know if Polarity disorder recieves that bonus?
What if it doesnt.
@@BuddyChy I'm glad you enjoyed it!
One of the most reliable ZZZ content creator out there, always giving us the calculations. Your effort is incredible! Keep the good work, friend!
Thank you so much ❤️
Tks for the video, bro!
Your TC videos are really enlightening!
Glad you like them!
Hi ! thank you for your work :)
do you think Yanagi/Piper and Rina would make a good alternative instead of Yanagi/Piper/Rina?
Or would the place that Piper will take on the field be disadvantageous for Yanagi?
Looking forward to her release.
What disk drives are we thinking will work best for Yanagi? It'd be good to get a start farming rn if you can with the double drop days from disk events
thanks for the tips, I wonder if Burnice is also good with PEN%, because I kinda of got a looot of PEN substats in her set...and I don't understand how the flat PEN works.
Yes in the video Burnice and Yanagi were both equipping PEN Ratio as well
Now I gonna wait for Miyabi if she is Anomaly I gonna get Yanagi
I hope you get what you wish for 🙏
Nice video!, question tho. Can I use jane doe instead of burnice? I don't have any other anomaly besides piper and jan builds up assault faster
It can work.
Should I pull for Bernice to go with Yanagi? I’m looking forward to miyabi but I’m new to the game and pulled only for Caesar
I have 17000 pulli and 25 PT on Bernice Bonner
If you want the best performance for Yanagi team yes she’s the best option “as of now”
Thank you so much for the calculations, can you tell me who do you think is better for Jane, Burnice or Yanagi?
Burnice
How would you modify Grace/Rina/Anton? I have Anton with Drill Rig, Rina with slice of time and Grace with Fusion core, is Yanagi a better Grace to funnel shocks for Anton Shock rebouts? I mean in a fashion to balance Anton as burst and Yanagi as sub-dps. Or is my bro destined to switch teams? I am scrapping S ranks on unshilled Shiyu (not weak to Electro) by the skin of the teeth this patch thanks to Anton being the only capable of assist parrying (and well the Jane clone looks designed to counter Grace lmao)
Yanagi wants to stay on field and so does Anton. So I wouldn't put them in the same team personally. Yanagi isn't really made for Monoshock although it'll be functional, but using grace instead is better.
Apparently Harumasa will powercreep da Bro
@@Bassman0721I don’t have any information on the unit yet, and sadly without numbers I cannot tell you if a unit is going to be good better or worst than any other unit
This channel is really Underrated in ZZZ space. You are the only guy i find, who put up Calcs to backup the claim. Other people just read the kit, use ai voice and bye
I’m glad you like the video and glad you like my content, even though it’s short I just try my best not to bore people with reading and just explain what the essential parts of the changes are.
New nerfs just dropped, 3h ago :C
Don't think it's a nerf still
Good video Flamma
Thank you so much brother!!
Did you test with m0 or m1 Rina?
I was think about making a Yanagi/Burnice/Rina team and sending Caesar to a Jane/Caesar/Lucy team (I'm still a bit fire heavy but well, I started with Jane, so nothing I can do). I like the numbers for the team I'm planning, but I can't remember if your test was done with m0 or m1 Rina, because for now I only have m0.
Also what about Yanagi/Burnice/Soukaku? Would an AP/AM Soukaku be worth it?
Majority of the tests I do don't involve M's.
At least at the start of the game where everyone is lacking agents and or haven't pulled enough to get Rina M1
As for the Yanagi Burnice and Soukaku, you'll be pretty much in a great spot.
jane / cesar / lucy cant work, you need to active the passive of jane (use seth instead of lucy)
@mazen7013 you are right I completely forgot.
Thanks for the updated video! Really appreciate that you're on top of this.
I don't have Grace so can I sub her out for Qingyi?
No need for Qingyi you can use Soukaku and you'll gain great results as well as she buffs for 1k ATK
Apologies for being late I was just asleep
i feel like DISORDER as a whole is too complicated for my F2P ass so i decided long ago to just make a JANE HYPER team i use her vs ALL ELEMENTS except of coarse phys RES i think if some limited can powercreep/replace Sett (probably the idol support i hope) then atleast my 1st team is set i have Ellen too but i just prio Jane more
Most probably in the future we will have more Jane supports aside from Seth only, and a very nice choice as well since having an Anomaly build up units are genuinely great in these scenarios where you feel like the game is lacking supports.
i'd be very interested in seeing the calcs on a yanagi/rina/burnice team. seems like combining the best of both teams. or yanagi/lucy/burnice. caesar seems much better for a hypercarry like jane or ellen
Luckily it’s in the video!
Yanagi Burnice and Rina are the best performing team currently based on what I’ve tested so far!
Thanks what do you mean who would better Seth or Rina with Burnice and Yanagi.
I got M1W2 Seth and M0W0 Rina
This depends on your playstyle, but since Yanagi’s anomaly application is nerfed as well Seth can fit really well.
However if you want higher damage numbers and have a team that’s ahead then I’d suggest going with Rina. Even if you don’t have her W-Engine, the damage Yanagi will gain is quite significant.
@@FlammaTheGlad Is worth spend the resources to buy Rina's weapon on the store?
I already have sufficient amount to get Yanagi M0 and her w-engine.
Current, I've Burnice M0 and RIna M1.
I'm focus to have a solid team now.
@@EmersonPalatti The difference is 10% from her buff you'll be closer to the 30% with her weapon.
Slice of Time is 28.6% and Her W-Engine is 29.6%
@@FlammaTheGlad Hmm than I hope I can get her weapon and I could get her M1 from the selector only 90 pulls away
@@doriansz3130 I wish you the greatest of lucks
I'm going to use Yanagi/Jane Doe/Caesar can't wait for this.
ugh two on fields
where do you get the kit leaks? ive seen some kit leaks but its still in chinese, i had to google trans it. wher do you get the en ver?
@@zollen_boyyy6419 Hakushin CN translation to English or just copy the text and paste it to GPT
Is your recommendation for 4p disc still chaos jazz after this changes?
I still used chaos jazz in the calculations since Yanagi’s damage was high, but people brought it to my attention that you can use 4P Freedom Blues as well and it was on my mind but Yanagi benefits well with the 4P effect at least
I'm a low spend player (IK membership) and the only S-rankers I have are Caesar, Lychon and Rina (lost the 50-50 on Caesar). This is because I started playing the game during Caesar's banner.
The rest are A-rankers that everyone has.
My main team is Caesar-Lucy-Piper and I was hoping to make a second team around either Burnice or Yanagi so that I can finally challenge Shiyu.
How does Yanagi look without Burnice?
Is it possible to make a Shiyu team around Yanagi + 2 A-rankers?
If yes, then any suggestions?
It is possible to go with 2 A ranks.
The teams you can go with are going to be Yanagi Seth and Soukaku. And since you have Rina already that pretty much helps you out with your team building. You can switch out Seth for Rina or Soukaku for Rina (Depending on what exactly you feel like playing) just keep in mind that you'll need to trigger EX Special with your Yanagi majority of the time if you're going to play without burnice.
You can also play Yanagi Caesar Rina, with Caesar building with as much AP on her substats and on the 6th piece being Impact, that way you can assure yourself a good shield.
But Yangi Seth Soukaku can function really well since Soukaku can provide you 1k attack buff and Seth provides you faster Anomaly application.
And incase you plan on using Rina with her she can get you great results if you build your Yanagi with PEN Ratio Piece 5 Disc Drive
Hope this comment helps!
Anytime!
I lost Burnice for Grace and got rina in standart banner, so I think I'll use Yanagi rina and Grace until I get Burnice or another off-field anomaly, i hope this team works well, or maybe i use yanagi jane and rina, idk yet
Most likely you’d favor Yanagi Rina Seth!
Seth with 4P freedom blues and Rina with Swing jazz can help your Yanagi dish a lot of damage and at the same time help with her anomaly application as well
can you use Lucy as a support for Burnice Yanagi team?
@@juancholo6608 Yes for sure
Her w-engine would be much better than other options? Or is there a f2w option that is close to her w-engine?
@@francisconunez6969 of course her w-engine is a big boost of damage compared to all options that are available for her.
But you can use Fusion Compiler, weeping Gemini, and Electro Lip gloss and rainforest gorment.
Thank god i was planning to skip Burnice and with this change she's better without her.
I hope you get her!
What about Yanagi - Burnice - Lucy?
It can work
So, how about Anby+Seth team with Yanagi? No one is mentioning it. Not everyone posesses Rina. And I don't have other S-rank chars except Zhu-Yuan.
My apologize, I’ll be more considerate in my videos next time.
Yanagi + Seth + Lucy or Soukaku can definitely work well.
Would a Piper-Caesar-Yanagi team work?
It can work, If you plan on using the new set with Yanagi and switch her out for 7 seconds while Piper applies Physical Anomaly, you can trigger a disorder that can function really well.
And with Caesars buff (1k attack + 25% bonus damage on enemies that are marked) you can gain good results with Piper and Caesar especially with the new changes.
Hope this helps!
@@FlammaTheGlad thanks, and make that a 1.5k attack and 40% bonus damage (i got m2 Caesar in 90 pulls but only m1 Piper)
@@Gatozx02you’ll definitely have a very smooth experience in the game
Only thing I understood. If you have Burnice you should get Yan too
I wouldn't say it's necessary since burnice can thrive in other teams and deal damage without triggering disorders. You don't need Yanagi for Burnice but you need Burnice for Yanagi.
@@FlammaTheGladw8 but I thought u said we can just use mono electric without burnice?
@@joaquinchua3348 again, the team is functional, it doesn’t mean you can’t use it it’s just an example I provided since many people asked me about it, mono shock is possible to use
No atk% compare for slot 5?
No, I tested with ATK PEN and ELMENTAL and all gave a better result with PEN and Elemental was ahead of ATK
nice
Why not Yanagi, Sokaku, Rina?
It can work. The final beta version is out Ill be adding more teams into the video.
Please forgive me.
Anyone knows how to get access to the beta servers?
Wrong channel my friend.
is yanagi off fielder ?
No, she's an on field agent
Flamma is handsome
But Yanagi is ugly,
One shines with grace,
The other is just smelly.
so is burnice already powercrept one patch later?
She isn't powercrept, she still gives the best results so far compared to many other units we have currently since we lack Anomaly off field-ish characters. Burnice is the only unit that fits that role so far
Im super unlucky in this game. I keep losing 50/50 but now I am guaranteed, I can choose her or the only limited 5 star husbando but I need more dps 🥹 Can u help me? All I have is rina, grace, than fire stunner girl from standard banner and jane
Prioritize building two teams and aim to clear Shiyu defense. check if you can build a team around Lighter. While I lost 50-50 also, I'm thinking of getting either Miyabi or Harumasa (next limited male banner that's likely an electric dps).
Sure, you can join my discord and we can check your build and progression in the game and hopefully we get a good result at the end